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Old 02-08-2014, 08:22 AM   #31
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I would say that I had perimenopause symptoms for more than 10 years before finally having my last period in Oct. of 2011....I was almost 58 when I had my last period....PMS type symptoms lasted for more than a year after that....I actually haven't noticed any problems for the past several months...finally!!!
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I'm 48. I hadn't had a period since last January. Then last week, voila! There it was

I was getting hot flashes/night sweats pretty badly starting in September. I tried some OTC menopause supplements, but they didn't help. In November, I ordered progesterone cream but it didn't stop the hot flashes. Then I ordered some estriol cream and used it as well and the hot flashes disappeared!

Then the hives came. My whole body was itchy! It cleared up when I was in Cuba, from the ocean water I think. They came back when I returned home. I haven't used any cream in 2 1/2 weeks and I'm still itchy. And the hot flashes are starting to come back

Now I'm wondering if it's my new laundry detergent.

I will keep you posted LOL
Omg this is what I had for a yr! It's progesterone!
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Omg this is what I had for a yr! It's progesterone!
I haven't used progesterone in a month. And I used it for 6 weeks before I got the hives. If anything, I'm thinking it's the estriol. I'm going to use the elimination method once the hives subside.
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Its a common sign of two things

Low progestetone or an allergy to it
Estrogen doesn't cause it!
I stopped breathing from an allergy to it and had hives every day for over a yr
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when I was about 42 ish, my periods were really heavy. Once, I got anemic and weak and that frightened me. I had ultrasounds, and they said I had a huge fibroid on the back of my uterus, and that I should have a hysterectomy. Nope. Not going there, so I put up with it for a while, and it slowed down a bit. Periods got irregular. Then I turned 46. I simply stopped. never had another period. No hot flashes, nothing. I think I had such horrendous cramps all those years, that God gave me a break with menopause I'm now 60.
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I have a lot of sleep disruption. Mostly it's because of the hot flashes. I'll be fine, sleeping soundly, then I'm hot and have to kick all the blankets off. Then I'm cold and have to find the blankets again, then I'm an inferno. All night long this goes on. I have the flashes every fifteen minutes or so, at least.
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I think what's freaking me out is how all the dings were there and just disappeared but no period
I had that once. All the dings, no period. The following month was heavier than ever.

Now they come in anywhere from 3 weeks to 8 weeks apart. Ugh. THe last one was the normal super heavy flow for 3 days then spotting for 2 weeks.

I'm having hot flashes and night sweats and occasional irritability. I take Evening primrose - have been doing so for years - for PMS symptoms.

I'm 47. I try to welcome the weirdness. I just remind myself that (although know I have a ways to go) the weirder it gets, the closer I am to the END!
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Wow maybe I will just stay on the pill and avoid all that !!!

I assume all of you are not on birth control?
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Its a common sign of two things

Low progestetone or an allergy to it
Estrogen doesn't cause it!
I stopped breathing from an allergy to it and had hives every day for over a yr
Wow! I stopped breathing from an asthma attack while snorkeling in Cuba! I thought it was because I was coming down with a cold. Maybe not
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Can you use estriol cream without the progesterone?
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Wow maybe I will just stay on the pill and avoid all that !!!

I assume all of you are not on birth control?
I thought being on the pill after age 40 was frowned upon? Or have times changed?
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If I could please ask, how old are you ladies? I turned 50 in Novemer but I am still on the pill. My gyno told me last summer that once women turned 50 and are still on the pill, he will do a menopause blood test to check. After your period, you don't take the pill for another week and then he can do the test. He said that as long as you are taking the pill, you will continue to have periods even if you are menopausal! So just wondering what age you ladies are starting menopause?
I started the pre-meno symptoms at around 47, 48.. ish.... heavy periods, then when in early 50's started missing a period here and there, then at 53 started getting the occasional hot flash, which I could handle, but what was really bad was the sweating! Even when not having a hot flash, the sweat would pour off of me. Even the soles of my feet. Caused all types of rashes and fungal infections, got to where I was taking 3 baths a day..

So, finally bit the bullet and got on the patch, (vivell dot, middle dosage) and a heart friendly progesterone pill , (Prometrium) that I took for the last 10 days of the month) That was a life saver for me. Took that dose for about 1 yr.. with feeling good and everything under control, I slowly weaned off of the patch, over the next several months by cutting it in half... then after a few months with things going well symptom wise, I started using the half a patch only every other day. At 55 my periods stopped for good, and was able to quit both the patch and the prometrium. Still get the rare hot flash, but nothing that causes any disruptions in my life, and no more awful sweating. I'm now 61.

From what I've read, 55 is the average age that a woman goes into full meno, of course there are always some variations... but 55 is the average age. Doc said that a woman usually is similar to her mother for when periods start, and also when meno begins. It was with me and my mom. If your mom is still alive, and hasn't had a hysterectomy, you could ask her if she remembers how old she was when she finally quit menstruating. That should give you a pretty good idea about what you might expect.
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Can you use estriol cream without the progesterone?
Speak with your doctor please
I was on estriol and progesterone....almost killed me
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I started the pre-meno symptoms at around 47, 48.. ish.... heavy periods, then when in early 50's started missing a period here and there, then at 53 started getting the occasional hot flash, which I could handle, but what was really bad was the sweating! Even when not having a hot flash, the sweat would pour off of me. Even the soles of my feet. Caused all types of rashes and fungal infections, got to where I was taking 3 baths a day..

So, finally bit the bullet and got on the patch, (vivell dot, middle dosage) and a heart friendly progesterone pill , (Prometrium) that I took for the last 10 days of the month) That was a life saver for me. Took that dose for about 1 yr.. with feeling good and everything under control, I slowly weaned off of the patch, over the next several months by cutting it in half... then after a few months with things going well symptom wise, I started using the half a patch only every other day. At 55 my periods stopped for good, and was able to quit both the patch and the prometrium. Still get the rare hot flash, but nothing that causes any disruptions in my life, and no more awful sweating. I'm now 61.

From what I've read, 55 is the average age that a woman goes into full meno, of course there are always some variations... but 55 is the average age. Doc said that a woman usually is similar to her mother for when periods start, and also when meno begins. It was with me and my mom. If your mom is still alive, and hasn't had a hysterectomy, you could ask her if she remembers how old she was when she finally quit menstruating. That should give you a pretty good idea about what you might expect.

Mom passed
My sister had a hysterectomy and is of no help

Now my chest is on fire and I feel like I've gained 40 pounds today
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I was on estriol and progesterone....almost killed me
So what are you using now?
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Can you use estriol cream without the progesterone?
My hormone doctor told me that one needs to take the progesterone if you are on estrogen. If you are on progesterone, you do NOT need the estrogen.
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I thought being on the pill after age 40 was frowned upon? Or have times changed?
Times have definitely changed. Doctors say be on the pill as long as you feel you need to. My fiance has not had a vasectomy and as far as I know I am still fertile. Like I said earlier, I can go off the pill for 2 weeks and my gyno can test me. He said as long as I am on the pill I will continue to have regular periods because the hormones in the pill will continue the process.
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Bluqq, how did you stop the hives and breathing difficulties? Did it stop when you stopped the progesterone/estriol? How long did it take?
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I woke up one day in oct 2012, right after a hurricane, and half...yes just half of myneftvhand was swollen like a balloon. I hadn't hit it, bruised it etc....
I thought nothing of it until I got to work and the left side of my face blew up...my eye was swollen shut,,,,my face was distorted. My boss lost it and off we went to the ER. Most places had no electric from the storm. The ER was packed so we hit urgent care. I got steroids and an antihistamine and was told spider bite probably...

Well the hives started the next day...
Huge hives in clusters...itching until I thought that I would die....I bled from scratching and my body swelled more. They would come and go quickly. My left arm at 10am and by 11 there was no evidence of anything.....by 11:39 my face would go.....I was scared. I started seeing specialist after specialist with no answer. One night I came home from work with a bad case on my chest. I went into the shower, the room spun and I crawled out of the shower and yelled call 911 cuz my breathing was shutting down
They worked on me on my kitchen table forever before bringing me to the hospital,
Anaphylaxis

I was on steroids, 3 antihistamines a day and some other prescription. It was a crap shoot....one moment I was fine and the next covered in hives and the next swollen.
After one year and a bit.....first diagnosis.....autoimmune progesterone dermatitis
You need to suppress progesterone as you are allergic to it. When it spikes during ovulation ...whammo...hysterectomy or ovary removal. Most don't recommend estrogen therapy due to the risks....holistic healer found the natural estrogen supplement for me. Hives stopped in a few weeks but I was still swelling....

Next diagnosis was late stage Lyme. My joints became like an 80 yr old overnight....I ached and hurt so much and swelled! My doctor said let's try this again and whammo.....I had Lyme in me for over a year untreated. I started a long term antibiotic therapy and then back to the holistic healer..

Today I am hive and swelling free with no joint pains! I do get tired (and I'm talking can't keep me eyes open suddenly) at odd times but we are supplementing the dHea now and that helps a great deal

It took me countless specialists....countless.....and more tests than I could count....don't give up. Try Zyrtec twice a day....it helped suppress the hives
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Wow! Sounds like quite the ride! I can't imagine having Lyme on top of this. It's making me miserable!

The itching is driving my crazy! I have scabs all over from scratching in my sleep. Luckily, I'm not getting the swelling, unless I rub my eyes until they're raw because they're so itchy. Then they swell.

I've been popping Benadryl and generic Zyrtec, but I still itch. The hives themselves don't last long. Just long enough to make me extremely itchy and scratch. Then all that's left is the scab. The worst is on my chest and neck. And my legs.

I researched all day yesterday and ordered the Pueraria Mirifica, although I have to say I LOL'd when I first started researching because bigger boobs is the last thing I need!

Thanks for sharing your experience. This is the weirdest thing ever
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Week 7 and it came today
Sigh
This is so confusing

We leave for Nicaragua on the 22nd of March and who knows if I will or won't have it LOL
I so don't want this!
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So glad to have read this thread. It's nice to know that others are having the same weird things going on. I have had several really heavy, unstoppable periods and now I am having several small ones a couple times a month with some spotting. Men have it so easy!
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Week 7 and it came today
Sigh
This is so confusing

We leave for Nicaragua on the 22nd of March and who knows if I will or won't have it LOL
I so don't want this!
I've had to be very prepared when travelling. I take sheet protectors, boxes of supplies, I've even taken my own sheets so I didn't ruin the sheets in the rental house. What a pain in the butt all this stuff is to deal with. Places like Central America don't have the kinds of supplies I may need, so I take them just in case. Trying to plan any kind of romantic weekend is impossible because I have no idea when it might happen. It's such a hassle trying to plan things around your period, I swear if men had to deal with this there would be better ways to deal! I've always wanted to go to the corn islands, where in Nicaragua are you going?

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I'm happy to have found this thread. Thank you ladies for your candor.

I'm 41. Brief history: I had my daughter at 32, regular cycles before pregnancy, 30 days like clockwork. After my daughter was born, I got the Mirena IUD. I didn't have a period for 7 years (was supposed to have the IUD removed at 5 years, but there were insurance issues). I got the Mirena taken out August, 2012. Since then I've had clockwork cycles again, except they are 25-26 days. I honestly didn't think anything of it.

2 weeks ago, I got the Mirena reimplanted (BTW, doctor says it's perfect for women in their 40s). I expect my cycle to stop again.

However, since I got the Mirena, I started thinking about menopause, and wondering how I will know when/if I'm going through it since I most likely won't be having periods. I started reading a little bit and read somewhere that if your cycle length shortens, it could be a likely indicator of the beginning stages of peri-menopause. Now I have to wonder if I've already started going through the change.

My mom started her period at 8 (!!); I was 12 (and my poor daughter started developing breasts at 8--she's 9 now and no period yet, thank goodness!). Mom was still having periods when she died at 54, so that's no help. Her sister, though, went through menopause in her early 40s.

Anybody go through menopause while having cycles suppressed by medication/birth control? Just curious about your experiences, if I may piggy-back on this thread.
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Ladies please make sure you have any abnormal bleeding checked out. I've just been through this and spent 3 agonizing weeks waiting for test results, luckily all was ok, but I was so skeered at the time. Like your experience, it seems mine was either a rogue TOM or just the mysteries of meno. Do any of you have fibroids? I have two large ones and I'm looking down the barrel of major surgery if they don't go away or if they get bigger. I'm scared of a hysterectomy - I've never had major surgery or gyno problems before.
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Very enlightening thread. Glad to have found it.

I'm 53 and in the middle of this mess as well. It's bad enough we had to deal with TOM all those years, and now we begin ANOTHER fight.

Ditto to Seelessofme's post:

"I'm nearly 53 and I am in that phase of a period every three weeks followed by nothing for months. I also get the symptoms of PMS which come and go without a period.
Here's my post in the "Golden Years" board regarding hot flashes for those who may find it helpful."


For those suffering from hot flashes...

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Has anyone experienced anxiety/panic attacks or depression during menopause/peri-menopause?
I have. I've struggled with severe PMS with depression, for years, and now that I'm going through perimenopause the anxiety is a new symptom. I'm happy to say that supplementing with herbs has helped. I got GABA for the anxiety and it's been a lifesaver. It's like flipping a switch in my brain - 10 minutes after I take a pill all is well. I've also started using progesterone cream during the second half of my cycle and it has cut the emotional roller coaster down to size. Wish I'd tried it years ago!

My one complaint during all of this is that I'm gaining weight. I've stuck to a low-carb diet but it's just creeping up on me. Please tell me this too shall pass. I hate having to limit everything I eat and then not having anything to show for it.
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