Getting Healthy for Baby ~ October 2009

[Lylotte]

Hey ladies - Here's the new thread for the month!

Any lurkers out there please feel free to join us, even if you are not quite ready to start trying, we'd love to have you!

[MsWoods]

Subscribing

[amlundie]

hiya ladies happy Oct.

the scale ACTUALLY moved down today after a couple weeks of being stuck! down to 257.5 I'm just happy it went down it was at 259 then it's been bouncing between 259 and 262 so to see ANYTHING below 259 this morning was AWESOME!

[Lylotte]

Dilemma time girls.. got the weekend to think about it.. So I was supposed to call doctor with Day 1 so we could schedule the hystereosonogram.. i think that's what it's called.. anyway on CD 6-12 BUT only on my doctor's clinic day which is Thursday. So Yesterday there was plenty of red/brown, all day to think it was day 1, called office, booked for next thursday on CD7.. great.. except today no period whatsoever. so technically TOM didn't start them right? So do I just call on monday, cancel and rebook? And also if I do but period starts say on Monday or maybe Sunday making thursday's appointment CD 4, maybe 5 should I just keep it since it's close enough and if I wait for an appointment the following week it would be CD11 or 12.. which is fine for the test BUT too late to start clomid..? What do ya think? Did that question even make sense?

[AsmallerME]

Char - my advice is to wait and see if you get your period today. If so, keep the Thursday appt. If not, call Monday to reschedule for the following Thurs. if necessary. Either way you're too late to start clomid this cycle because they'll want you to start on CD3 or CD5 most likely. GL!!

[Lylotte]

got my period today.. hope it sticks but doing the math makes thursday Day 6 so appointment is good still and my math sucks, lol. As for the clomid, I asked him about that at the last apointment kinda hinting if I could get the prescription and go ahead and start it on CD5 before appointment. He said it was no problem to start it later for me because I've got good folicles waiting and don't ovulate on my own right now.. something like that.. whatever, sounds like it takes a few cycles to get right dosage anyway so chances are the cycle will be a bust regardless but a necessary evil. Can't imagine starting clomid on Day6 would be much less effective than day 5. But then again.. who knows and I would not be surprised if doctor decided not to give it to me suddenly for some other unmentioned reason.. grrr. I'm anxious to get new results from SA so I'm happy not to have to cancel appointment.

[amlundie]

Jake pics posted here if anyone is interested:

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/be...l#post12571799

I was down to 256 yesterday morning, working hard to get the weight off and get ready for #2 whenever God is ready for us to have another one.

How is everyone doing?

[MsWoods]

I'm still in limbo with my cycle. Day 51 here and nothing.

[AsmallerME]

Mel - Jacob's pictures are so cute!! He's getting so big!!

MsWoods - I went back and checked your chart. I don't see any indication of ovulation. Will your doctor give you progesterone to induce AF at some point? On some of my annovulatory cycles I would go 90 days without AF. That can be torture.

[MsWoods]

Well at my last appointment when she gave me my thyroid medication she mentioned progesterone since I didn't want to be on bcp. She said my thyroid was the most important and we needed to get that under control first and foremost and then we would deal with everything else. I go back at the end of the month to get my blood work and I will let her know then and we will see what the next step is, depending on my thyroid.

Besides, I had been bleeding heavily for 4 months before this, so I'm greatful for the break.

[amlundie]

Ms.Woods- I hope she can figure it all out and get you regulated soon

[amm]

Hey Ladies,

Big temp drop yesterday and today and I'm cramping and spotting, which means AF is on her way. It's okay. I have decided to focus hard this month on getting my eating back under control and getting the scale moving downward since I am so tired of watching it inch back up. I'm above where my stats say I am, and I really hate the feeling.

I am on Fall Break from school this week, so I figured that it's a good time to be able to focus 100% on my eating and exercise. I have cut out grains and fruit and sugar (of course)... so meat, cheese, eggs, and veggies are what I am focusing on for a while. I have dropped 2 pounds since I started yesterday. I would love to lose 10 pounds before I go back to school on Monday... even if it is all water weight.

Yesterday's Menu:

B: cheese stick (I wasn't feeling so great and had no appetite)
S: hard-boiled egg
L: 2 lean hamburger patties and 1/2 an avocado
S: sugar-free jello cup
D: salad with fajita steak, cheese, sour cream, salsa
Exercise: 1 hour step aerobics class

Today's Menu:

B: Mock Danish (1 egg, cream cheese, 1tsp. Splenda, cinnamon)
L: 2 lean hamburger patties with swiss cheese, 1/2 avocado
S: probably Jello
D: No sure yet since I'm going with my husband to traffic court.
Exercise: 1 hour step aerobics class

[amlundie]

andrea- WTG getting focused and working out! you can do it! i've never heard of fall break... is your school year round? we just barely started school 7 weeks ago

ETA: wow traffic court sounds fun!

[amm]

No, we don't go year-round... but we did start at the beginning of August. We get a week off in October, then we get a week off for Thanksgiving (thanks to some very hated teacher furlough days in my state), two weeks off at Christmas, a week off in April and we end school at the end of May.

[amlundie]

huh cool we started mid-late aug... 1/2 week off for thanksgiving...2 weeks off for christmas... 1 week off for spring break... and finish 1st week of june

[Lylotte]

Andrea - sorry to hear temps dropping but I'm so proud of you for getting yourself focused on losing weight again.

Michelle - My fingers are crossed that you can get the thyroid things sorted out quickly so you can move on to focus on getting your cycle back to normal.

Mel - Jacob is adorable in those photos!! My daughter would be so jealous of that drum set. She has recently taken to turning things into makeshift drums.

As for me... CD4, anxiously awaiting Thursday's appointment to get results once and for all from the SA and from the tube check.. weight has starting moving again so seems that my TOM bloat is over.. now on to mid month 2 week bloat/stall.. lol maybe it'll be different on clomid?? who knows. Anyway, just spending my days decluttering and getting spare room ready for a very unwanted relative to stay in and getting the outside of the house winter ready. Still debating on whether I want to plant any trees/bushes before the winter or wait until early spring. Katherine got a pet fish a couple of days ago, called it "Flower", and is so far doing a good job at feeding it. Hrmm.. not much else going on.. Since things are down tomorrow chances are that I won't be on again until after RE appointment so wish me luck!!!

[pocahontas]

Hey all! Sorry I havent been around much I have just been super busy. I am really trying to drop 20 more lbs before we TTC but I will be happy with anything at this point. When I get busy my food plan falls to the side and winging it = maintenance for me. I have to take the time to focus and plan so I will be doing that this week.

So here we are getting ready to TTC and DH is going to talk to his supervisor about getting transferred to their San Francisco office. He is ready for a change and there is more opportunity for him in that office. I am super supportive as SF is closer to both of our families but I am worried I will get preggo and then lose my job and my insurance if we move. I guess I shouldnt worry about something that isnt even in the works yet but of course, I do.

amlundie - Jacob is a doll!!!!!!

[amm]

Hey Ladies!

My week of from work is almost over. I have worked out every morning this week and I am feeling really good. I am down 5 pounds since Monday morning! And, this is TOM for me, so once it's over I'm hoping to see a few more pounds drop off.

I found out, through an email, that my sister is pregnant again. She is 27 and this is her 4th baby. Her husband is out of work, and she doesn't work, and it's just a mess. I am trying really, really hard not to hate her right now. I figure it's probably best for me to not contact her until the ugly feelings have past. If they even do.

I called the obgyn this morning to make an appointment to talk to the doctor about my troubles conceiving. But, since I am way, way, way overdue for a yearly exam, they want me to see the nurse practitioner for an exam first. Then I can schedule an appointment with the doctor. The first available appointment with the nurse practitioner isn't until Nov. 23rd! It's a very popular office, which is why I went there when I found out I was pregnant last year. But, I'm wondering if I should try and find someone who can get me in sooner. I don't know... I'm kind of torn because I think that I should try and lose as much weight as I can before I start seeing the doctor about help, so having the appointment far from now gives me time to lose and also gives me an incentive to stay on plan since I'll know I have to face the doctor.

[Lylotte]

Appointment today at RE was aweful. I am so sad and depressed about it all.. I'm mad and angry even! Long story short.. if that's even possible. Turns out I was only supposed to get a sonogram thingy done today despite doctor telling me he would love to get SA results in for this appointment so he could comfortably prescribe clomid and that it was going to be fine to start a little late this cycle and blah blah( I know this for a fact since I asked him if he would give me a prescription last appointment to start this cycle and he assured me it would not be too late when I came in for the sonogram). As usual his promises are just lame ass carrots he dangles in front of me but I never get to eat the carrot. So he was not able to confirm my fallopian tubes are open even though there is no reason for them to suddenly be blocked. He suggest it *might* be because of a clot from my period which I am still having but since this is the second time doing the test he's writting my report as though I am officially blocked. Period. And to make a follow up appointment to discuss what happens now. I was on the brink of tears but after doc left nurse talked to me and I told her frustrated I was and blah blah, she suggested it wouldn't hurt to ask for a prescription anyway.. hunted him down in the clinic, asked, he refused, begged, he agreed and told me to go make my appointment and he would have his admin call in the prescription to start NEXT cycle since it's too late this cycle. DESPITE him saying it would be fine last time ans DESPITE my literally being CD6, if that! Seriously what is the difference of maybe 12 hours?? But whatever.. So I went to his admin, asked for appointment and for prescription to be called in and she was fine with it and blah blah but didn't know the amount.. she gave me appointment for next friday, and showed me the SA results so I could get a copy for DH on this one and the old one. Well.... so SA results are exactly the same as the last one, < 1 million and bad motility. And to top that all off, when I got home there was a message on the machine saying the doctor changed his mind and would discuss the presciption with me next appontment. So now I've got blocked tubes and DH is shooting blanks. Great! I'm so friggin' thrilled. Can you tell? So I'm in a majorly sour mood to say the least.

Andrea - I literally do not think I could handle hearing a friend (IRL) was pregnant, far less a sibling. Not right now. (You guys, of course, I would be thrilled for.) Probably best to stay away from saying something you might regret later.

[ArmyWife88]

Hey Ladies!

Charlotte - So sorry about your appointment.

Andrea - DH's sister is the same way. She pops out kids left and right and she hasn't worked a day in her adult life and relies heavily on state assistance and boyfriend after boyfriend. It drives me nuts!

I have a question about EWCM. Today is my peak day on my monitor and I had a temp dip yesterday, so I'm pretty sure today is O day. I went to the bathroom earlier and had some EWCM but it seems to be clumpy and not really good quality. Do any of you ladies take anything to help you CM? I know I could take Tussin but was considering EPO. Since I'm not TTC and I know I'm not pregnant right now could I start taking it as soon as I get some instead of CD1?

[MsWoods]

Char-seriously sweety I think it's time to find a new doctor. The thing about you having a clot meaning its blocking your fallopian tube, do you mean you passed a clot or he seen one on the sonogram? I've had clots since I've ever had a period and the doctors said it's completely normal, so I don't understand what he's saying? I'm asking because I might have mis-read.

About dh, I would start him on the vitamins and supplements we had talked about. It takes 3 months for the body to make new sperm and he did his S/A fairly close together didn't he? I definately thing this is something that can be dealt with but I really do think you should get another doctor.

Nothing going on here, still no AF and no O and nothing.

[amlundie]

Andrea- honey I am so sorry about your sister, I know how hard that was for me and I believe you situation is harder than mine was, is this the sister you have had problems with before? you have been through a lot and I suggest you just don't say anything to her right now until you are able to calm down, becuase losing it on her tha way you probably want to right now won't help the situation

Charlotte- FIRE that DOCTOR! they are supposed to be supportive in your journey to get pregnant and he sounds like an idiot! You are his employer he works for YOU you have every right to get a new doctor who will be supportive and helpful! Don't put up with that stuff, this is a very fragile time for you and he is supposed to be encouraging

AFM- doing good scale still said 256 this morning I think... hubby normally leaves the house before I do for work but I think on the days he is off I'm gonna start getting up at 5 so I can go to our Apt gym and workout before I get my day started. I can't on the days he works cause I have to be home with the baby but at lease 2 days a week is a start.

[Lylotte]

Well today I'm a little more level headed about all of this. I think the doctor was trying to tell me that it was possible that a clot from my period could be in position to block the tubes temporarily.. but both? I dunno. Anyway, as for firing him, it's so hard to do so.. This is a fertility only clinic, only one in the region short of travelling to Toronto which is like 4-5 hours away. A lot of poeple from other cities travel to this one because it's rare to have them. So I'm not sure that firing is an option. Reality is he's been pushing me to have a BMI under 35 and I do now and so my weight should literally never be mentioned again as far as I'm concerned. As for being blocked in the tubes... here's the deal in Canada:
In Canada we have free health care, which is regulated as to what you can and cannot have covered.. so anyone can pay their own money for IVF but our health system will only covered it free of charge to someone who tubes are BOTH blocked. He was trying to tell me *I think* that while I might only be truly blocked in only one he was going to write it down on paper that I was blocked in both and leave it at that. His burden of proof required by the government has been met since he's ordered the test twice and that's that. Now technically it's covered, but only 3 times in my lifetime. Considering my DH's sperm is messed up maybe this is a good thing?? I dunno.. but it's something that the doctor briefly referred to and suggested it could not be done appointment-wise until early January most likely.. DH is gone by then so we're looking at waiting until after DH's return. In the meantime he's going to make appointments with his doctor to see if there is anything that can be done other than supplements. We just don't know how far we'll get before DH goes away. He's actually kinda happy I won't be pregnant while he's away as the thought scared him. I'm mad that my daughter is getting older and older without a sibling, and meanwhile I'm getting older and older. I'm scared that I might actually be blocked in both tubes and that 3 rounds of IVF might not work. The nurse also hinted that basically it was not in my best interest to go ahead and do this sonogram test again because if the doctor can get one tube functioning officially then IVF is no longer covered. So to some degree he's trying to help me out.. I guess I kinda get that. But he's not the one who has to deal with emotional issues of feeling like a failure. Anyway, so if I'm technically not blocked obviously we can still "try" and there is always a chance.. right? Problem is that I still don't ovulate on my own (yet??) and he won't give me clomid in the meantime because technically on paper there is no point. Frustration!!! There are some hidden costs to IVF which I'll have to have the doctor explain to me, like admin fees.. but I guess that's the way we're going to go next summer. In the meantime I'll hope that my body will spontaneously starts ovulating. Perhaps I'll get to try clomid next cycle, perhaps not but really at this point I'm just trying to come to terms that this baby-making journey is on hold for the next 10 months. I keep telling myself that there is 5 years between my little sister and I and we're still the best of friends so everything will be okay family planning-wise. And I guess the other bonus is I'll be at goal next summer hopefully so I'll get the very cutest of maternity clothing when the time comes. Sigh.. small win but a win none the less. Now I just have to convince my mother to stop talking about me having a baby for the next while and I think I just might survive all this.

[amm]

Charlotte, I'm sorry that the doctor is being a pain, but it does seem like he's trying to help you. I hope things start working out for you. I remember you saying that you tried the soy isoflavones... how did you use them? When I tried them for a couple of months, they made me ovulate earlier than usual. Which days did you take them and how much did you take?

As for me, I was down another pound yesterday, which is 5 pounds since Monday. I'm not weighing today because I don't have a scale at home, since I'm obsessive, so I only weigh at the gym and I'm taking a day off from exercise today since I've worked out hard for the last 4 days. I will weigh tomorrow morning and hope to see another loss. It's frustrating to lose this weight that I've gained, because I feel like I can't be excited since I've already lost these pounds. At least I'm headed in the right direction.

Since the e-mail yesterday from my sister announcing her pregnancy, I haven't had my mom or my other sister call me or email me and mention it. I expected at least my mom to call and ask me how I'm handling it. So, I'm glad that no one is mentioning it to me because I'm still really mad about the whole situation.

[amlundie]

andrea- honey be excited that you are losing that weight and not gaining more! I am so sorry your sister announced that in an email... you would think with all you've been through she would be more sensitive about that situation!

[amm]

Mel, I don't think she told everyone through email. That message looked to only be to me, my grandpa, and my mom. I think she knew that my grandpa and I are probably the only ones who would be pretty angry about the situation... and she said in that email that she would appreciate all negative thoughts to be kept to ourselves.

[AsmallerME]

Andrea - ugh, I'm sorry about your sister. I think you're doing the right thing by ignoring it for now. Life can be so unfair.

Mel - yay on the WL!!

Char - my doctor wanted me to take clomid starting on CD3. Maybe yours wants you to start on CD3 or CD4 and CD6 would be too late. Hopefully you'll be able to have a more productive conversation with him at your next appt and get that perscription. It can't hurt to try it for 3 cycles until DH leaves. Then if that doesn't work, you have 3 IVFs. That's amazing. Just love on your daughter now. She'll have a sibling soon!

Christina - I had great CM some cycles and it didn't result in me getting pregnant. This cycle it was poor quality but we used preconceive/preseed lube and things worked great. So you can always buy that if you home remedies don't increase your quality. I think green tea is supposed to help a lot too.

[amlundie]

Andrea- the thing is YOU are the one person she should have handled that in person or over the phone with.... I don't know about everyone else in her life but she should have broke the new to you gently not through an email... I am in agreement with you not saying anything right now... that's what she asked for anyways I'm so sorry honey, that you have to go through all this

sorry for spouting off this situation just upsets me...insensitivity makes me

[KrystaLyn]

Hello, all! I am back on the LC wagon trying to lose weight before my DH gets home from a year long deployment in 5 weeks, AND to finally lose the baby weight from my twins so I can hopefully get pregnant again sometime next year.
Getting pregnant again is my main motivation, but I am setting small goals for myself since I have so much to lose this time. So the first goal is DH's homecoming, the second goal is my sisters wedding in December (I have a dress I need to fit into!) Then my third goal is to just keep losing until I get pregnant.

I started back LC'ing last monday, and have lost 4 pounds this past week. My mini goal before DH gets home was to lose at least 10 pounds, but I am optimistic that I can lose even more than that now. I'd like to lose 2 lbs/week for the next 5 weeks, but we will see. I have also been working out with a trainer twice a week for over a month now, so I'm hoping that will help get hte weight off quickly.

So, that is a little about me. I hope to get to know you ladies better!

[amlundie]

welcome back!

went shoppping last night!

YAY food!

B: OMM mmmmmmm good see below!
L: chicken alfredo with brussel sprouts
D: might make white castle pie

OMM- I was trying to find a way to get the OMM to keep me full longer cause I am STARVING by lunch time so...this morning I put about a talblespoon of pumpkin and a little pumpkin pie spice in it.. cooked it an extra 30 secs. the I topped it with cream cheese and sprinkled with splenda and more pumpkin pie spice.. it was SOOOOOO delicious like a pumpkin cheese cake muffin

how's everyone doing?