Pregnancy Thread, Mon, 7 June 04

[Suzanne]

Jefinner..................Anna Vista.........Born 4/12/04!
Sinnrah.................Emily Orene........Born 4/12/04!
LessCarbsMoreMe...Nina Aiesha .....Born 4/13/04!
ChristieJ...............Carter Andrew....Born 4/15/04!
Sarajewel.............Skylar.................Born 4/23/04!
Cynicalcyn............Alexia Rene.........Born 5/28/04!
PFgal................Kendall Elizabeth....Born 5/27/04!
genifire6..................Baby Girl.......... Born 5/27/04

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Tracy2.....................W38..............6/13/04..........Girl
Trishagrrl.................W36.............7/07/04.........Boy
FluffiB......................W34..............7/22/04.........Boy
Redjewel..................W32..............8/??/04..........Boy and Girl
AngelHope...............W32.............8/02/04.........Boy
Laprettygurl.............W29...............8/21/04.......Girl
wari........................W28.................8/29/04........Boy
Trolly......................W27...............9/8/04..........Girl[/color]


Thininmex................W26...............9/16/04.......Probably a Girl
Melzta.....................W26.................9/18/04
Teach2Live..............W24................9/20/04......Boy
aphexacid................W24..................9/28/04.....Girl
babyblue26062.........W24................10/4/04
Bozo........................W24..................1 0/06/04
lizzyd.......................W19.................1 0/31/04….Boy
Mrs. Sarah...............W16..................11/18/04
karatejen..................W16.................11/26/04
MissyTutu.................W14..................12/12/04


surfdol....................W?....................1 2/28/04
DesperateInFL.........W9.................….01/9/ 05
GumDrop................W7...................01/??/05
metroames.............W6?..................01/??/05
Shandril……………………W?……………⠀¦â€¦â€¦..01/30/05
Green12........................................... Trying!
JennPayton.......................................T rying!
2BFitHourglass..................................Tr ying!

[Suzanne]

Hi Mommies,

Trolly, WELCOME TO THE THIRD TRIMESTER! I can't believe I'm next. Sounds like you had a great time in CA. Good work on not eating cake. I've decided I can't make real ice cream anymore, the next batch will be low fat SF. I totally lost control last night...LOL

Tracy, you said to leave your stats at 38 weeks but I'd really like to bump you up to delivered!

Trish, how are you?

Lauren, how's breast feeding going?

It's amazing how fast the new moms abandon us pregnant ladies.

Good Morning to all who follow!

Buen Dia,

Suzanne

[Redjewel]

Morning Ladies

Hi Suzanne!- I am envious of your swim. Hey if I were in better shape and did not roast to a crisp bloody painful red, I could be a nudist..lol

I had a good/ bad day yesterday- Ernes and I met his folks and fav aunt in San Sebastian for lunch yesterday, such a beautiful day! I did make sure to put my 60 proof sunscreen A decent lunch, I had a mixed salad and grilled salmon..Yum
Then we walked along the beach (I should have taken some pics but never remember till afterwards) We walked a couple kilometers, got a coffee, I had water (such a good girl! )
This ends the good part
Sitting there at the bar,with the smell of the coffees and cig smoke, I knew I was going to vomit, and sisters when I start it doesn´t end till the bile is gone! So we leave the bar, I am still feeling pretty good, I figured the fresh air would help, yeah it helped me puke in public leaning against trees
Nothing like small kids watching and hearing ya puke while eating their snacks!

And his folks want me to come stay with them for a month after the babies are born!
How do I say no without sounding like and ungrateful lil witch?

[metroames]

Originally posted by ThininMex
It's amazing how fast the new moms abandon us pregnant ladies.

LOL, they're probably using every spare moment to get some zzz's now that they can.

Well, I'm still feeling good, but my lower abdomen is continuously sore and I've had some lower pelvic floor spasms too. I'm assuming these are normal; I just didn't expect them so soon. My pooch is very hard now too, but I don't have that bloated feeling today.

I think I'm finally getting out of the weight loss/gain mindset. I will try to go with what my body says caloriewise, but still try to aim to keep my carbs below 100 if I can so I don't gain too much weight. This will probably all go out the window I suppose if the M/S comes on strong soon.

Have a great day ladies!

Amy

[MrsIndpndent]

Originally posted by ThininMex
Lauren, how's breast feeding going?

BAD!! I only stuck with it for about a week, and was very disappointed in myself but know I had to do it or I was going to go insane. She was feeding every hour, so I basically has 10-15 minute breaks inbetween feedings. I was an absolute zombie, no one could help me, and even when Kendall wasn't feeding she was screaming. I REALLY hoped to stick with BFing this time, but it was just making us all miserable. Dean wanted to help and couldn't. I had no time for Mac, etc... I'm sure it would have gotten better over time, but I couldn't take it anymore.

QUOTE]Originally posted by ThininMex
It's amazing how fast the new moms abandon us pregnant ladies.
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Oh hush! We get a little busy all of a sudden, that's all!

[MrsIndpndent]

Originally posted by metroames
LOL, they're probably using every spare moment to get some zzz's now that they can.

You know it!

By the way, Congratulations on your pregnancy!! I don't think I got a chance to tell ya that before!!!! Awesome!!!

[karatejen]

Good morning Everybody!!

I just got through catching up on the weekend thread. DH and I were out of town visiting his sister.

I am eager to hear about how Tracy and Trish are doing!

Amy~I had constant hunger in the begining...so much so that it hurt. Thankfully that has passed and I am back to three basic meals with snacks when needed. I know smaller, more frequent meals are better but life just doesn't give me enough time to eat like that. I vowed I would try to keep under 100g of carbs....but it was hard to stick to that when the m/s hit. Hopefully you can do better than me.

Sarah~congrats on the yard sale finds! I have yet to get started shopping. I am really hung up on wanting to find out what the sex of the baby is.

See you guys later!

[Suzanne]

Hi Lauren, that's too bad about BF. It took me 10 days to get started with Max and by that time he was used to a bottle so I could switch off whenever I wanted. Did you ever try your pump?

Hi Amy, I keep forgetting that most new moms don't get any sleep. Max was a perfect baby. Woke up once or twice for about 5 minutes for the first two weeks, then slept all night. People keep telling me that I'm in for a rude surprise this time, that I'll never get another one like him... I don't know anything about the sore abdomen and pelvic floor, never had those symptoms but a lot of the women here have.

Chris, I am so sorry about the bad part of your outing! I had to laugh though thinking about those poor kids eating their snacks in the park. At least you have a cheerful outlook on being sick. Could you tell Ernestos parents something like ....Seria tan dificial acostumbrarme a cuidar gemelos que pienso que necesite dormir en mi propia cama para que me descanse mejor....They'll probably think you've been taking Spanish lessons from a Mayan peasant...LOL

Hi Jen!

[babyblue26062]

Good morning mommies-

Lauren- So sorry about the bf- that is what happened to me with Jessica and I was so disapointed. I must say that I am not very optimistic about trying to bf this time- I do plan to try but It was such a horrible experience for me last time - I probably shouldn't have that mindset but I can't help it. I never got milk in last time- I never even got sour when I gave up. Other than that I hope all is well with you!

LizzyD- Yes I have the same numbness problems. I will have to try the wrist bands!

Wendy- Good girl on only having 1 peice of cake!!

Trolly- Great belly shots!

Suzanne- Loved the story about the nudest divers. You really do live a wild life!

Chris- Why don't you tell your in-laws that you really want the babies to start off at home?

Amy and Jen- Hi!!

Cyn- Get those pictures on here- will ya!!!

Tracy- Any baby yet???

Trish- I am really getting worried about you- hoping that all is well!!!!

I had a very nice relaxing weekend for once~~~
We took Jessica to see Shrek 2 yesterday - so excited for her first movie and she --- Fell asleep!!!! Oh well- she saw half of it and ate popcorn so she was still happy!!!


Kristen

[TRACY2]

Morning mommies-

no baby yet but lots of contractions Any day now, I hope!

Lauren- so sorry about the Bfing. What formula are you using and is it better now that she's on a bottle? Sleeping better and all?

Suzanne- wish you could bump me up too!

Trish- are you un-preggo now????

Chris- poor thing! I hope you won't have too many of those episodes!

Hi to everyone else- I am really swamped at work today and will try to catch up with everyone a little later!

Tracy

[MrsIndpndent]

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Originally posted by TRACY2
Lauren- so sorry about the Bfing. What formula are you using and is it better now that she's on a bottle? Sleeping better and all?

She went from being a screaming, fussy baby to an extremely happy baby who only cries or fusses when she needs to be changed or is hungry. My boobs haven't been very sore, either. There was only 1 day they felt really full and yucky, but other than that it's not bad. Still leaking some, though. Same happened when I stopped feeding Mac. My Mom never got milk at all, her boobs never changed - although I know that's not an excuse for me since they say it's not hereditary. We're using Enfamil LIPIL w/iron. Although, the generic formula they sell at BJ's is extremely comparable, so I was thinking about that. It's even got the same LIPIL crap in it, so I dunno. I had Mac on generic formula when she was a baby b/c that's all I could afford, and although I'm in a different situation now and can afford it - why pay more if I don't have to. I'm printing off the nutritional information for the Enfamily and the BJs brand and taking it to Kendall's appointment next week to see what the doc recommends. I must have spent 30 minutes comparing the labels 5-10x when we were there this weekend and I only found a few differences, but I still want the doc's OK before I do it!

[MrsIndpndent]

Quick question for any gurus:

I made some of the low-carb Jell-O/Cool Whip pie. Instead of buying the pre-made graham cracker crust I got the box and made it myself. I substituted 3 tbsp. of Splenda for the 3 tbsp. sugar that it recommended. (You just had to mix Splenda, butter, and the crumbs) Prepared with sugar there is 12 carbs per slice...how many carbs am I saving my the Spenda substitution? Any idea?? The Jell-O and Cool Whip have no carbs, but I really want to pin down a '1/2 way correct' number for the crust!

[lizzyd]

[quote]Originally posted by PFgal
[b]BAD!! I only stuck with it for about a week, and was very disappointed in myself but know I had to do it or I was going to go insane. She was feeding every hour, so I basically has 10-15 minute breaks inbetween feedings. I was an absolute zombie, no one could help me, and even when Kendall wasn't feeding she was screaming. I REALLY hoped to stick with BFing this time, but it was just making us all miserable. Dean wanted to help and couldn't. I had no time for Mac, etc... I'm sure it would have gotten better over time, but I couldn't take it anymore.


Hey Lauren,

I had the same experience with my oldest. My little guy was literally either latched on or screaming. We have no memories or video of him doing anything other than those two things, nursing and screaming.

We lasted four months. I wanted to be such a purist. I had no other kids yet, I was a SAHM, so I figured I could devote myself entirely to nursing this little thing. I was going to La Leche meetings for support, the pediatrician was all for it.

But you're right, when you have about 10-15 minutes every hour when he/she isn't latched on for weeks at a time, when do you sleep, shower, eat, clean the house, shop for food & clothes, pay the bills, talk to your husband, feed clothe and pay attention to your other children, etc.? I didn't even have time to fill back up with milk, much less pump!

Anyway, I finally broke when he was four months. I gave him a bottle of formula. He gobbled it down in 10 minutes (he was normally latched on for 45-60 min) fell into the longest (I think 2 hours) deepest sleep he had ever had (and so did I).

From then on, I nursed him first thing in the morning when we woke up, and last thing at night before we went to bed. The rest of the time he was on a bottle. He was getting my anti-bodies, we were getting our bonding (2 hours a day), and I was getting myself and my sanity back. I was unchained from him, and from the house cause my husband could finally help. For the first time I started to enjoy my baby.

It's too bad. When everybody is cooing about "isn't this the most wonderful, miraculous time in your life", all I could think was "this sucks", but you can't really say anything because people will think you're an unfit mother. For the record, he was not colicky and I (apparently) was not suffering from PPD.

Anyway, this time around I know better. Everybody has to do what's right for them. Don't get me wrong, I think BF is fantastic. But in situations like mine, I would trade a few anti-bodies for a functional mother any day.

(Wow, did this thread bring up issues for me or what?).

Hope everybody else is well.

Later,
LizzyD

P.S. I forgot to add, he stopped screaming too, and started smiling and being a really happy baby the DAY I started him on some formula.

[MrsIndpndent]

Originally posted by lizzyd
Hey Lauren,

I had the same experience with my oldest. My little guy was literally either latched on or screaming. We have no memories or video of him doing anything other than those two things, nursing and screaming.

We lasted four months. I wanted to be such a purist. I had no other kids yet, I was a SAHM, so I figured I could devote myself entirely to nursing this little thing. I was going to La Leche meetings for support, the pediatrician was all for it.

But you're right, when you have about 10-15 minutes every hour when he/she isn't latched on for weeks at a time, when do you sleep, shower, eat, clean the house, shop for food & clothes, pay the bills, talk to your husband, feed clothe and pay attention to your other children, etc.? I didn't even have time to fill back up with milk, much less pump!

Anyway, I finally broke when he was four months. I gave him a bottle of formula. He gobbled it down in 10 minutes (he was normally latched on for 45-60 min) fell into the longest (I think 2 hours) deepest sleep he had ever had (and so did I).

From then on, I nursed him first thing in the morning when we woke up, and last thing at night before we went to bed. The rest of the time he was on a bottle. He was getting my anti-bodies, we were getting our bonding (2 hours a day), and I was getting myself and my sanity back. I was unchained from him, and from the house cause my husband could finally help. For the first time I started to enjoy my baby.

It's too bad. When everybody is cooing about "isn't this the most wonderful, miraculous time in your life", all I could think was "this sucks", but you can't really say anything because people will think you're an unfit mother. For the record, he was not colicky and I (apparently) was not suffering from PPD.

Anyway, this time around I know better. Everybody has to do what's right for them. Don't get me wrong, I think BF is fantastic. But in situations like mine, I would trade a few anti-bodies for a functional mother any day.

(Wow, did this thread bring up issues for me or what?).

Hope everybody else is well.

Later,
LizzyD

P.S. I forgot to add, he stopped screaming too, and started smiling and being a really happy baby the DAY I started him on some formula.

Lizzy - You have made me feel 100,000,000,000,000,000 times better!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!! Your post totally hit the nail on the head for me!!! You ROCK girlfriend!!!!!!!

[TRACY2]

Aw Lauren- don't feel bad because it didn't work for you! You did your best, some babies just prefer the bottle and thrive better on formula. I could personally take it or leave it *sigh*. I remember the convenience of formula 10 years ago! My husband insists though that I BF at least for a little while, so I told him 6 weeks! That's it, after that, she's on the bottle!

[Mrs Sarah]

Morning ladies!!

I don't know if any of you read posts on the playground, but there is a poster there named Jai. Her and her husband have been trying to get pregnant for a long time. She finally did and was due for her first baby on July 3rd. She went into labor last week and delivered a baby boy. Unfortunately he had a heart condition and did not survive. My heart is breaking for her. Let's keep her and her family in our prayers.

This weekend we worked on getting furniture moved around to set up our nursery. I still have to get the crib up there, but we have all the furniture in there now. It's so surreal to walk out of my bedroom and see that little room, knowing it's for our baby!!

Suzanne: Thanks for starting the thread!

Chris: I'm sorry you got sick! That totally sounds like something that would happen to me. I hope you are feeling better.

Amy: My stomach always felt (still does) sore. Sort of like someone had been using it as a punching bag. It does get better though!

Lauren: Don't be so hard on yourself. BFing isn't for everyone. It doesn't work for everyone. I have no idea how it's going to be for me... but if I had an experience like yours, I don't think I could stick to it either.

Jen: Hi!

Kristen: How funny about your daughter! How did you like the movie? I've heard it's really good!

Tracy: It sounds like it could happen anytime!

[MrsIndpndent]

Thanks so much for the support, ya'll!! You're the best.

Jai is definitely in my prayers, how sad!

[lizzyd]

Lauren,

Glad it helped. There are several of us out there, you just rarely hear about it because most feel so guilty they aren't deleriously happy that they don't talk about it (not me though, with my big mouth).

Everybody looses sleep. Everybody's boobs hurt. But I'm talking about circumstances on such a whole different level that unless you have had one of these babies (or you've been subjected to cult brainwashing, or certain torture techniques), you just can't even process what it can do to you and your household.

To make matters worse, and what pushed me into my formula reality break, were people like this:

1.) my SIL gave birth six weeks after me. Her baby slept 20 hours per day since the day she was born. She had her birth announcements out on her daughter's 4th day in the world (we sent ours out when he was 6 months old). She was emailing constantly about how great all this was. Three months later, she still couldn't understand why I couldn't contemplate a trip to NYC to visit her with the baby . . .

2.) at the La Leche meetings, there were some really nice, very sympathetic people. One especially had had her baby around the same time as me. She came to one of the last meetings I attended and shared her story: She had to wake her baby up to feed him. She was also producing so much milk that she used to "spurt two foot arcs across the room ..." (and she was about a 32A). I, at the time, was a 38H, had never filled up and never leaked. Do you mean to tell me I've lugged these boulders around since I was 15 years old, for NOTHING!!!

Anyway, I can look back on it with humor now. But my husband swears I suffered from some post-traumatic-stress symptoms from the whole episode. Live and learn.

Your peanut looks beautiful, and sounds happy now. Keep up the pictures (I know, another person asking you to do something
).

Be well,
LizzyD

[babyblue26062]

Sarah- How sad about Jai. I will say a prayer for her and her family.

Great news on the babies room! Jessica gets her furniture Wednesday. Then we have to talk about when we are going to do the babies room! The movie was very good. I enjoyed it. I don't think it was quite as good as the first one- but it will probably get better with muliple viewings.

Kristen

[genifire6]

Hi everyone,

I can finally take a little time to come here... huhhh it is very busy here with my 19 month old boy and the baby... That is why new mommies dont come here very often anymore!!!

Annabelle is just adorable. She sleeps a lot, drinks avery 4 hours or so, and even more during the night, which is very different from Anthony, who had to be fed every 2 hours until 2 months... But like PFgal, with Anthony, I didnt stick with the breast feeding... I was too exausted, Rob couldn't help, he was a premmie that didn't want to be away from my arms... so I gave up. And unfortunely, I didn't try with Annabelle for those reasons. I don't regret it thought, breast feeding is definately not for me. She is doing so good on formula and the bottle that I don't feel like sleeping all day this time, and with Anthony running around, I wouldn't anyways...

Ok baby crying... Tracy2 will try to post pics for me..... Hope she succeeds.... BBL

Gen

[TRACY2]

OK everyone- here's Jen's new princess

WELCOME ANNABELLE!!





Jen- she's beautiful!!

[babyblue26062]

Gen-

Annabelle is beautiful!!! Congrats. How is Anthony handeling it. I love the names Anthony and Annabelle!!-

Kristen

[AngelHope]

Hi Everyone!

The breastfeeding issue..... sigh..... I will share my stories, which were both nightmares to me!

Erin as most of you know was in the NICU for 5 days and never would latch - I had a nurse come by the house etc... The stress from her being in the NICU I believe was my downfall (not very condusive to "making milk"). I did pump b/c I thought it was what was best for her. I would feed her and when she would take naps I would pump. Unfortunately this was when I was supposed to be napping as well. She ended up colicky so I was pumping, dealing with a screaming 1st baby, up all night - I was soooooo sleep deprived all I could do was cry with her at times. I felt like such a failure! I did pump for the 6wks until I went back to work - then I said forget it!

My 2nd experience I was thrilled when Maggie latched on. She nursed like clockwork every 3 hrs and my milk production was through the roof. Then I found I was attached to this little thing literally - I pumped and found that she WOULD not take a bottle!! We tried every bottle imaginable - we tried different people trying to feed her. I guess reality set in that she was NEVER going to take a bottle when I had a Christmas formal to go to for Mike's work - we left the girls at my mom's and a couple of bottles (thinking 1) if I am not anywhere around she would take it and 2) if she was hungry enough she would take it) I had to leave in the middle of the ceremonies b/c my mom called and said Maggie was in a screaming fit, wouldn't calm down and wouldn't take the bottle. Yep - I then realized that I was STUCK, I wouldn't be able to go anywhere for more than 3hrs if I did I would have this panic that Maggie would get hungry while I was gone. It was a complete nightmare - though I throughly enjoyed our bonding time in the morning and at night. I felt like I was detached from Erin b/c Maggie was so needy on the attention (not just bfing). Anyway I once again became a bundle of nerves and anxiety. Everything I did centered around her feeding schedule. Luckily SHE self weaned at 5mths to a cup.

So Lauren - DON'T feel bad - I am with Lizzy about the Happy Mom stuff. If you aren't happy, comfortable and at ease EVERYTHING in the household will suffer. This time I am not even going to attempt bfing - I am going through some really personal guilt issues concerning that but I have to keep reminding myself how I felt during the bfing times. I am a control freak so when things don't go how I planned it just doesn't work - LOL