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Old 06-26-2014, 01:17 PM   #1
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Don't Confuse What *Should Be* With What *Is*

I had a journal once before that can be found here..... Adventures in Carb Cycling

I decided to start a new one when my posts in other people's threads grew and grew and started to look like a journal. I didn't want to continue the old one, because I feel like I am in a whole new chapter of my life.

The title is a saying a good friend's dad taught her. It is one of my biggest issues I think. I *should be* able to eat "in moderation" (whatever that means). I *should be* able to relax in the evenings and read or watch TV without sweets calling me incessantly from the kitchen. I *should be* able to lose weight with "normal" methods. I *should be* able to maintain a normal weight without having to pay so much attention and put in so much effort. But these *should be*s are not what *is* and the sooner I figure that out and live it the better.

The short story.... I lost from 250 to 166 over a couple of years. I low carbed as far as it would take me (250-210 or so), then did JUDDD until I stalled with it, then HCG. I only stayed at my lowest weight for about 45 minutes. I was an avid runner, but had an achilles problem that eventually required surgery. I got a new job that I love, but takes a ton of time and energy (during the school year, I am on vacation right now). I just let other things, albeit important things, get between me and my fitness goals. I never went back to the free-for-all food and couch potato life I used to live, but I am doing something wrong because I am sitting here close to 220 lbs again.

I buckled down in the spring of this year, but have been unable to get the scale to budge with the usual methods. Giving up all tested allergens (and they are many) netted me about 5 lbs. It as been a losing fight to lose any others so I decided to try hcg again.

I started posting in a thread on the hcg board about a plan called HCG 2.0 (I'll copy the posts over)......

Sunday 6/22/14

I think I am trying this.

I did both hHCG and rx with the Simeon's plan a few years ago and had some success, but just couldn't keep up the low calories or the specificity of foods. I gained quite a bit back of what I lost (not just with hcg) and now I can't get the scale to budge.

I happened across this thread a couple of days ago and couldn't stop thinking about it. I bought the book for my Kindle and went to the website and it told me I can have 679 protein calories. That plus 30 carbs worth of veggies is something I think I can live with.

I was planning the visit to my doctor (that has no problem prescribing the rx) when it occurred to me that I have pellets still. I dug them out and started loading today. They may be doing something because I have been decidedly NOT hungry and that is not one of my usual problems. If the pellets don't work I'll call the doctor and switch to the rx, but if I can save the $$$$ I will.

Wish me luck!
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Old 06-26-2014, 01:19 PM   #2
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Tuesday 6/24/14

Today is VLCD1 for me on Hcg 2.0. I am just drinking coffee now, but I put a menu in for today and am nowhere near my allowed 679 calories from protein, but am at 110 grams. That feels pretty good.

I was a little worried about the no fruit idea (in case there is some kind of "sugar reset") so I decided to keep it minimal and count in my 30 grams of carbs. The menu below came out to 32 carbs (14 grams fiber, but he doesn't say to subtract that).

B- protein shake with coconut milk, spinach & a couple of frozen strawberries
L- 6 oz mahi mahi with peach salsa & green beans
D- 6 oz chicken & greens for a salad with SF FF raspberry vinaigrette (Maple Grove Farms)

That leaves me with 130 protein calories left over, so I'll see how I feel later. I could up the amount of protein I have at my meals (my fish filet may not come in at the exact weight I want anyway) or add a bedtime snack.

I have MCT oil, but haven't added it in yet.

I did my two days of loading and am starting at 221.4 (up 3 lbs). I would love to get below 200 this round, but need to be in P3 for a camping trip July 30. I have a trip to my parents planned in a couple of weeks, but I think that will be OK. Everyone is used to me eating weird anyway because I am allergic to 47 things (including wheat, dairy, eggs and almonds ).

Wednesday 6/25/14

After VLCD1 I lost all the loading weight plus another .8.

I wasn't excessively hungry, but I did feel sort of "empty" last night. I am trying to also eat in an 8 hour window because I believe IF to be good for you and it makes the food seem to go a little further.

My menu for yesterday (calories/carbs/protein):

11:00- PP, strawberry & spinach shake (137/7/16)
2:00- mahi mahi w/ salsa & broccoli plus tiny test bowl of chili (260/15/42)
4:00- 2 oz chicken (86/0/16)
6:00- salad greens w/ chicken and FF SF balsamic (309/12/52)

Total (792/34/126)

My Weights:

Load1- 218.8
Load2- 219.8
VLCD1- 221.4
VLCD2- 218.0

It is different to count protein calories instead of grams. The 2.0 author says he does that because protein is so important and satisfying and wants to encourage people to eat as much of it as they can. I got out my handy calculator and figured if I divided my protein calories by 3 (to eat 3 meals), that's roughly 225 protein calories per meal. I could have 10 ozs white fish, 9 ozs shrimp or 5 ozs chicken or extra lean beef.

So far, so good. I'm planning fish for lunch again. I'm not sure about breakfast. I didn't look carefully at my latest protein powder and its too high carb. I think I will go to town later and take it back.
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Old 06-26-2014, 01:20 PM   #3
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Thursday 6/26/14

Yesterday did not go as well. I was fine all day, then went off the rails at night. I think a couple of things went wrong:

1) I have been doing JUDDD so 1 VLCD felt normal. What didn't feel normal was it not being followed by and up day. I felt kind of "cheated" all day not being able to eat again. Which is dumb because the whole reason I am doing hcg is that JUDDD (or anything else I tried) wasn't working.

2) I ate dinner too early. I made a rotisserie chicken in the smoker/grill and it didn't take nearly as long as the recipe said, so we just ate when it was ready.

3) I forgot my evening dose of pellets.

4) Even before the evening snack-fest, I hadn't eaten all the protein recommended. It is harder than I thought to make protein the biggest part of my meals instead of vegetables. My tracker separates and subtotals meals. I think instead of entering "meals" as I eat things together, I will start separating by food type- all protein together in breakfast, vegetables in lunch and condiments in dinner. Maybe that will make it easier to look at protein calories and keep them where they should be.

My menu for yesterday (calories/carbs/protein):

12:30- 9 ozs mahi mahi with zuchini & brocoli (278/13/50)
2:30- turkey lunchmeat around a pickle (60/4/9)
5:30- chicken & green beans (342/13/57)
8:00- this is where things went bad (678/79/4)

Total (1354/106/111)

My Weights:

Load1- 218.8
Load2- 219.8
VLCD1- 221.4
VLCD2- 218.0
VLCD3-217.4

I still was down some, so there's that. I hate to waste the big losses of the first week though. The 2.0 author says there is no failure unless you quit. There are just varying degrees of success. That makes sense I suppose, so I will try again today.

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Old 06-27-2014, 07:21 AM   #4
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Another off-plan evening. This is turning out to be hard to get the hang of, but I'm not quitting. I am not so much hungry at night as unsettled. My skin felt like it was crawling and I couldn't relax. I had a bowl of fried rice my son made, a banana and a nectarine and I could sit still and feel OK. What is up with that?

My weight stayed the same. I won't post all the details, but my calories came in at. 1300.

My Weights:

Load1- 218.8
Load2- 219.8
VLCD1- 221.4
VLCD2- 218.0
VLCD3-217.4
VLCD4- 217.4
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Old 06-28-2014, 10:58 AM   #5
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Saturday 6/28/14 215.6 lbs

I had a nice loss this morning. I didn't follow any plan, other than to keep low calorie. We went to Monterey and I rode my bike for a couple of hours. I had skipped breakfast and I ate an apple when I got back from my ride at about 2:30. We went out for lunch and I had two grilled fish tacos and a few chips, then 1 semi sweet truffle from Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory I was surprised at how full I got from that relatively small amount of food. We went and did a bunch of shopping and got stuck in traffic behind an accident. I had a TJ's jerky stick on the way home about 7:00 and that was in for the day.

I put it all in my tracker the best I could and came up with 870 calories, 95 carbs, 30 grams of fat and 58 grams of protein.

What worked?

Very light eating at night? Maybe, that has worked for me before, but it is hard.

Lots of exercise? Maybe and worth trying again. I was holding off working out with hcg but I was missing it. My heart rate monitor said I burned 1200 calories (don't believe that one) and Runkeeper (which will track cycling too) says 447. That seems more reasonable. If it works to eat more and exercise, I'm in. I need some toning and CV improvements as well as weight loss.

Eating in a fairly short window? I had the apple after 2:30 and was done with all eating by 7:00. That's Fast 5 right there. I'll try that again today.

My Weights:

Load1- 218.8
Load2- 219.8
VLCD1- 221.4
VLCD2- 218.0
VLCD3-217.4
VLCD4- 217.4
VLCD5- 215.6 (total of -3.2 lbs in 6 days)

My Wharf to Wharf race bib was in the mail when we got home. I have almost exactly one month to be ready. I don't think I'll be running the whole thing, but I'd like to at least do some intervals and walk fast. Our big annual camping trip is right after that and I will need to be able to hike easily.

ETA: I added a couple tsps coconut oil yesterday and today. Got to keep things right in the bathroom and fiber doesn't do it for me. Enough said.

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Old 06-29-2014, 07:12 AM   #6
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Sunday 6/29 217.2

Up nearly 2 lbs from yesterday. I ate more than I had planned. I wanted to try to replicate the day before, but ran I to trouble with a rice dish my son requested. Rice dishes seems to me my nemesis. Plain rice I can take or leave, but mix it up with some chicken and sauce or cheese.... I love that stuff, but it is no good for any plan.

My day wound up:
Cals- 1232
Carns- 136
Fat- 42
Protein- 83

I had a good workout. I ran down through the school to the beach and back through the campground. I stopped and did some planks and upper body work. It was hot (for here anyway), but I felt good when I got home.

Like the guy said, there is no failure (I would add unless you give up completely), only varying degrees of success.
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Old 06-29-2014, 07:15 AM   #7
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I forgot to add my daily weights.

My Weights:

Load1- 218.8
Load2- 219.8
Day 1- 221.4
Day 2- 218.0
Day 3- 217.4
Day 4- 217.4
Day 5- 215.6
Day 6- 217.2
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:22 AM   #8
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Monday 6/30/14 216.4

Down a little form yesterday morning. I would complain about losing slowly if I was even close to the plan I purport to be following.

I had a lovely day yesterday though. I walked (no running) down to the campground, up & down the stairs, planks (3X10) and push-ups (3X10), and back up the hill to home, then we ran some errands and went to the movies (1 box berries, 1 cup popcorn & about 10 sour watermelon slices). We went to Lalla Grill for (l)inner and they have pureed cauliflower on the menu. I had it with grilled chicken and vegetables and it was delicious. I had a bordeaux bar from Sees afterwards.

I was quite surprised to be down a little today, I mean, there was candy in my totals. I think what did it was the IF (only ate between 11:00 and 4:00) and the fact I didn't eat at night. I think I may have found a new diet, I should write a book- The Linner Diet: How to Lose Weight by Combining Lunch and Dinner

Chores on the menu today. That bathroom isn't cleaning itself. I think I'll take a rest day from exercise.

My Weights & Food Stats (Calories/Carbs/Fat/Protein):

Load1- 218.8 ??
Load2- 219.8 ??
Day 1- 221.4 (792/34 /16/126) on plan
Day 2- 218.0 (1,284/121/35/111) OK until evening, then ugh
Day 3- 217.4 (1,220/133/28/94) ?
Day 4- 217.4 (870/95 /30/58) Planned, all before 4:00
Day 5- 215.6 (1,232/136/42/83) Unplanned, all evening
Day 6- 217.2 (1,361/174/38/81) Planned, all before 4:00
Day 7- 216.4
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