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Old 05-28-2013, 06:07 AM   #121
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New numbers 88 kilos or 193.8 pounds. It seems to be working. One thing I have noticed though that until after having my carbs at midday I am sluggish and my legs feel like lead. I tried to run just for fun while I was walking to the shops and leaden legs. Tried at night and had oodles of energy. Hmm, gotta make use of that somehow.

Today I will try making some bread with the coconut flour leftover form the milk making. Let´s see how that turns out. On impulse I also bought some herb teas , as they are promised to taste sweet without sugar. They are sarsaparilla and horsehair, the horse hair for potassium and the sarsaparilla for taste.
All herbs should come with a warning that people need to inform themselves about their benefits, side effects and if in doubt consult a doc. I did inform myself and the first dose was light. But then I dabble in learning about them for nigh on 10 years as they interest me. Still the first cup was diluted to see if it had any adverse effects on me.

Forgot. I am going to make the coconut oil,too. The coconuts I selected seem to be young as they have still got water in them and I don't know if that is beneficial as it means the cocnut was still maturing. Well anyway something they will make. To top things off I want to make coconut bowls with the halves. I looked up how to split them symmetrically and clean but as it is the first one I am splitting it might be shards jeje
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Edit: Another thing I was going to cook today was lupins. I was thinking of a lupin chili. It is supposed to make a great flour too,but you need to prepare it properly as lupins are poisonous as my Gran always told me. Well,just checked it. It is a 14 day process to do it right !! Guess who will have some unused lupins sitting around in a cupboard ....
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Today 88.7 again.
I know though that it´s not a gain in itself as I ate clean yesterday, water for whatever reason.

Today I have to go out in the morningand I am trying something new and that is BPC on its own. The only problem is that I love it and want a bucket of it.

I made the coconut bread yesterday.The first one hot with butter was nice but afterwards as with coconut macaroons it feels like it is expanding and it is a neverending task chewing it. I made a savoury variety but as my "flour" is not 100% defatted it still tastes very much of coconut. So coconut flour is for the occasional sweet thing and for the dog who goes crazy about coconut and cauliflower

Only other thing to report is that on the spur of the moment I walked home yesterday which made my walking total 5.5km or 3.7 miles and I did it in 50 minutes, not to shabby, a speed of 4.5 miles per hour.

Well gotta run for now.
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You are so good experimenting with baking and such. Inetersting reading it! Way to go on the walk. You are "moving" in the right direction!

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Hiya Nancy,good to see you out and about visiting,in a virtual sort of way. Thanks for stopping by my corner. I love experimenting but mainly it saves me a whole lot of money .

Well,today I went almost organic. I went to an organic market to get butter,cheese and cream . At the vegetable stand the low price of cauliflower caught my eye and I got to chatting with the owners and asking various prices. Pleasant surprise,they are very competitive with some things. And the same happened with the butchers who also makes excellent cheese.Hsi stuff is not organic only natural but better than nought.
I am doing this as I have been reading up on what is stored in our fat cells and it is basically all the goodness of our modern achievements like pesticides,heavy metal anuthing the body perceives to be a poison. So I am trying not to add to this for a while working onthe theory that small things all add up.
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Good morning. 88.2 kilos today,better than yesterday but it would be nice to lose just a kilo in a week.I am not asking for more at this stage. Well anyhow, I am feeling great on this diet. The induction headaches of the mornings have now gone and I am in deep ketosis. I was woried about not being able to tell without ketostrips but I can..I can..

Yesterday´s chicken was a hit. Great taste and texture,none of the wobbly chicken fillets that you buy normally. Totally worth the extra dollar per kilo.
I hope the German sausages are,too. I spoke to the butcher and yes he does put in "gluten" thinking I was a celiac for asking him the question so I will put them at 5 carbs which would be the worst kind of frankfurter of the vacuum type pack. I am almost sure it is not more than one carb, which is standard for a German sausage, but I will go easy with the rest of carbs on days that I have them.
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Today´s food plan. I missed out on the green pepper I am planning to eat but that is ok as carbs are very low.
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You are so good about experimenting. ME, I tend to eat the same XXX over and over again. We did try a "pasta" salad thing. No noodles just veggies as noodles. We loved it. Should make that again!
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Thank you. Funnily enough I was just thinking today that all I want is a fixed menu because f it day for my log drives me mad. I use it as it does a nutrients report for you. But I am not at the fixed menu stage yet. Next week I will probably have a few combos that work with the new higher fat ratio.
I like the idea of your non-pasta salad . Julienned I can see that being an attractive salad.
That´s all for now . It was a hungry day. I ate a lot more than planned, the right stuff though. I added a hardboiled egg and 2 ozs salami and the cauliflower at night turned into 8 ozs. But it s tolerable.
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88.3 today. I am not going to predict my food intake today but will actually log it as I go along. Yesterday I was very hungry in the afternoon and I am wondering if it is due to no breakfast and so today I had 2 small eggs with a pat of butter and a tbsp sunfloweroil .

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Our salad included grilled chicken tenders, snap peas, cauliflower, tomatoes, mozz cheese and light balsomic dressing. It was YUMMY! We just threw it together and it was light, fresh and good!
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Good morning 88.2 today or 194.2 lbs. Something strange is happening with my scale though. The first reading it showed me was 87 straight then crept up to 87.3 . As I know my scale is temperamental I always weigh a few times to make sure I get the majority vote. So this morning after the first two weighs all over sudden it started to show one kilo more without it being moved or any other conditions changing. I would love to say I weigh 87k but with this variation I am honestly not sure. I might have to change the scale after all. I had hoped the flooding had not damaged it but it is erratic and on top of that it does not switch off , consuming the battery all day long. You might have guessed I am trying to talk myself into buying a new scale. Weighing yourself should be a one minute job not a mathematical exercise of finding the mean average. Let´s see

Nancy, your salad I like . I would take out the toms as they are not a saint of my devotion as they say here and probably put a pepper in a contrasting colour. I might do that one day. I am generally not a salad fan but as I need variety this sounds doable.

Well, not much more to tell for now except to talk about Mascarpone cheese. If you eat sweeteners don´t let it cross your door step. It is sinfully good and has a voice that calls to you which can even be heard through the fridge insulation. I was lucky enough to find a homemade one in the organic market and I am regretting it, not regretting it , regretting it ... No seriously though ,it is a great " cheese" ( it is actually closer to a yogurt in the way that it is made) but it is so heavy that an overindulgence can make a lot of difference in the daily balance. I am considering it for a fatfast though.

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88.7 again . Everyting I ate was with salt yesterday so I am hoping it is that. My food was okay yesterday although I went heavy on the cheese.
Not a lot more to tell for now. Woke up feeling tired.

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B : 2 eggs 1 slice salami coffee with 3 tsps hwc
L : 10 olives, 3 brazilnuts 5 ozs cheese,4 slices salami
D : 8 ozs beef in cream sauce ( 1 tsp cream)1 oz green pepper,7 ozs cauliflower with 1 tsp butter and 1 tsp cream.
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9/4 198.4
20/4 199,7
198.9
198.9
198.0
24/4 197.55
25/4 198.2
197.1
196.1
195.8
196.6
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3/5 196.6
196
195.6
7/5 196.6
196,4
195,8
11/5 196.6
12/5 196.0
196.6
18/5 196.4
20//5 195.8
28/5 193.8
31/5 194.4

51 days 5 lbs lost . Slowwwww!

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88.5 again or 195 pounds
I am doing everthing according to the book .My calories are high,around 1800 to 2100 cals but if we take the 3500 cals per pound as correct then I should lose a pound a week at least. Hmph,going to sulk in a corner
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Hmph,could this be the answer? I am not aware of overeating protein but maybe even 120 g a day is too much for me personally.

Dr Phinney says this: "STEVE PHINNEY: If you eat a 16 ounce steak your insulin will rise much more than if you eat an 8 ounce steak with two pats of butter on top. With the 16-ounce, lean steak, the higher protein and lower fat will significantly raise your insulin and interfere with your adaptation to being a fat-burner. It will keep you more stuck on relying on carbohydrates to fuel your body. It will slow down your ability to burn fat in your body as its preferred fuel. So in the Harvard study, think of it this way. When you combine the 75 or so grams of carb the average test subject ate, plus all that 225 g of protein, which by the way, is at the upper limit of human tolerance and is twice what is probably optimum or necessary for a person on a low-carb diet, then between the carb that is already more than 50 g a day and the protein which will raise insulin on its own, and, by the way, generate more sugar formulation from the excess protein, all this together means that it’s not a well-formulated diet for ideal health and it does not qualify as a very low carb diet. " From Steve Phinney: A Calorie is Not Just a Calorie | Me and My Diabetes
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Thank you Nancy for the encouragement!!
It just bugs me that I threw out everything including wine (!) for so little result. Well, a result it is . I will stay the course as something is coming off, but will try and tweak something,what I don't know probably the protein.
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Simplifying . The next two days will exactly be the same. Pound soup ( pound of beef ,pound of veggies and some ancillaries , breakfast is 2 eggs with polish sausage. End of ..
Nutritionally it is balanced when taking potassium and magnesium. Magnesium is the other new thing.The net carbs are actuallylower. The whole soup has around 60 carbs and the recipe is for two days to be split between lunch and dinner. And in the next two days I will think of another soup.
Let´s see how this month goes.
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Good morning 88.2 or 194,3 today .
The magnesium has already made a difference. When stretching this morning no threat of a cramp only a mild twinge and generally I have the idea that my sleep was more relaxed too.
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Nancy, I am here to stay.Sometimes grumpy but staying the course.
I also have to send you my apologies. I did not answer your question about the coconut experiment . The cocnut milk is really easy but yes it tastes of coconut when you make it yourself. The storebought version does not however or has a very mild taste . Today I will finally make the oil or whatever can be wrung out of the coconut flakes. Unless the result is a wonderful,cannot ever live without it again type experience it will be a one off. Opening coconuts scraping out meat, blending it to a fine consistency takes too much time for my liking.
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Good morning. New numbers just in : 87.7 kilos or 193.1 lbs
On top of that I did not have that stiff feeling when getting out of bed,when making breakfast and even stretching my legs and flexing my feet no sign of a cramp,not even a twinge. And if I am being honest and while I have no scientific evidence for it I think the magnesium has something to do with the move in numbers as well. We will see if it carries on.

I also did the last part of the coconut experiment yesterday and have come to the conclusion that making oil from fresh coconuts is not a thing I want to spend my time on. Very little oil can be squeezed out manually. However it suited my purpose of being a control oil against the one I usually buy. I had suspected it of being desodorised, as it had no coconutty flavour, but when I tried it at home from a very young and therefore smelly coconut it did not have much of the aroma either. It had more of course but then it did not have to come from the Philipines in a large vat.

Re the soup idea I am not sure if I will keep it up . While it is a great way to measure what goes in,measuring what comes out is not so easy, if it even matters. But after almost two days of soup I miss having to bite something.
I never could feel full on things with babyfood like texture. I think that a lot of textures in high carb products play to this subconscious memory.

Well,nothing more for now.

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Girl, coconut is something I can't even remotely stand! The taste/texture is just not for me!

I am also not a SOUP person. Couple times a year, maybe if it is really cold out, other than that, no thanks.

I am so a texture person when it comes to eating. I have/need to chew it (why protein shakes never worked for me) and I have to feel like it was substantial!
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Nancy, I like coconut but even as a kid I wondered what you do with the fibrous stuff once the sweet taste was gone. Defatted coconut flour was not invented yet back then .
Today I will make coconutmilk which is fine and easy and the other fresh coconut I have still I will save for a rainy day.
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when life gives you lemons....

ya just gotta make yerself some lemonade. Especially if the lemon is orange and looks like a mandarin ! While queuing at the organic vegetable stall my queue neighbour and me were clearly bemused by the sign on what looked like little oranges or mandarins,identifying them as Corrientes lemons ( Corrientes being a northern state of Argentina close to the Brazil border. Without even asked the farmer lady explained yes indeed there was no mistake they were lemons not mandarins not oranges. In the end she gave me a lemon as a present . Well it is going on tonights chicken . I will let you know what orange lemon tastes like.Attached is a pic. The chicken will be accompanied by turnip greens which I only know from the Elvis song Polk salad Annie and deepfried cauliflower leaves and bracts.I only looked it up whether they were edible as the dog made arun for ona that fell on the floor.It turns out that deepfried it is supposed to taste fantastic. Careful people with thyroid conditions though.
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Google knows everything.It is a Meyer lemon and I can´t believe how good it is just squeezed into water. I will be a regular customer.
Second hit of the day deep fried cauliflower leaves, the tender ones at least .They taste slightly of cauliflower but different.No idea how to describe it. The larger ones I have not tried.
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Yesss! One kilo in two days, 87.2 kilos today or 192 lbs.
I think the extra magnesium agrees with me. I have been taking 800 miligrams for the last three days and only yesterday I had the issues normally associated with it so now I need to scale back to 400mg. If anyone is wondering if my system was sluggish before then I would say no, for most of the time on Atkins quite the opposite actually.

But enough of this at breakfast time. Only thing to say is that I thought I had blown the losing for yesterday when I had a big dollop of farmers and mascarpone cheese with sweetener and almond flavour for a mid afternoon
snack. One other thing I have changed is cream in my coffee. Yesterday I ran out and fout out that just a half teaspoon of butter gives the coffee a smoother flavour, meaning I can invest the cream cals in mascarpone in other dishes and make them more satisfying.
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Look at you go girl. Never seen an ORANGE Lemon! Thrilled it tasted so good. Any different than a true lemon???
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It is different. When you cut it it smells pungent. I put it into my water and it tastes much more rounded. The base note is more orangey but not in the sweet sense but in the sense that it tastes of the essential oil from the skin of an orange (as in orange water ) Haha I sound like the writer of wine labels : A mix of citric flavours with undertones of orange peel ,an invigorating drink for any occasion . It does have 3 g of carbs per lemon though.
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