It's always more fun with a buddy! Figuring it out for the long run...

[dazygyrl]

excellent!!

hope you have a great weekend. any plans?

tomorrow is my oldest birdie's b-day. he'll be the big 1-5!! whoa! so will have a small family party in the evening like always. sunday, superbowl day...my sis, her hubby, and dd are coming over...it's and UD so that will be nice. i am saving a piece of cookie b-day cake from sat for sunday.

[TerriMM]

Not really. We had a big weekend last weekend with the tennis tournament and all. We will be watching the game, we're in the office pool

DH is committed to LC so it should be okay.

Happy Birthday Big Bird!

[TerriMM]

Morning Bud,
How was your weekend? Mine was good. Nothing special, just hanging out with DH relaxing.

I had a little bump up this morning for no real reason. I ate well just too much probably But I'm still below where I was Friday so all is well. Today I'm starting FF (no HCG) keeping with the CLA/GLA regiment.

How's JUDDD going?

[dazygyrl]

good morning! glad you had a nice weekend. mine was good too.

juddd going good i ended up doing 3 UDs in a row (sat sheould have been a DD). just a choice i made.

DD today. surprisingly, tho, i don't FEEL like i had 3 UDs in a row, so that is good.

so hoping you have a great week of FFing!

[dazygyrl]

good morning, bud!

how goes it?

going well here. rotations going well. head still in it. so, am happy about that.

sorry to be so boring. just wanted to check in and see how you are.

[TerriMM]

Hey Bud!
Kind of in a bit of a quandary. I've done FF for two days. 1st Day down .40 today up .10. If I was just hanging with NK, no big deal. But after two days of FF? So today I'm doing ME. Much easier, no tracking. I am still doing the CLA/GLA and it's been said that can have an adverse effect on the scale. I'm going to weigh tomorrow to see the ME effect and of course the official Friday and then I think I'm ready to move to the weekly weigh ins.

Glad to hear things are good with you!! Can’t wait to hear the official Friday.

[dazygyrl]

hmm...sorry your ff days didn't yield you what they normally do. wonder why that is? sure hope your ME day treats you well. weird that the cla/gla would impact the scale when it's to be taken to HELP the scale.

my weigh in will be saturday as friday is a DD.

[TerriMM]

I don't know, my body just seems to be in extra stubborn mode. It's been almost a month since I stopped FF so I would have thought things would go better. Maybe it's because I was already doing ME & NK and it wasn't that big of change Don't mind saying, I a little frustrated.

[TerriMM]

This is your Bud This is your Bud doing everything right and not losing

[dazygyrl]

i totally get why you're frustrated. i hope this morning is a good weigh in for you.

[TerriMM]

Okay [finally] a drop. -1.8. But I slept on my arm wrong and woke up very sore so took some Advil. And you know what that means for tomorrow's weigh in.

DH talked be into starting HCG yesterday. Now I have to figure out do I stick with the ME WOE or do protocol? Very discombobulated this week

[dazygyrl]

congrats on your drop .... boo on the sore arm... hope the advil is effective yet doesn't derail too much. such a catch 22, huh?

hmm, what do with that hcg...i say do what has worked best in the past...and if memory serves correct, protocol isn't the best for you, is it?

i have had something wrong with both shoulders, left is worse...for ages...i just put up with it as i don't really know how to describe it to a dr...am thinking an MRI would be the only way to diagnose (it feels like a soft tissue thing rather than a actual joint thing and MRI is best for that sort of thing) anything and i don't need that $1800 bill

[TerriMM]

That's no good Soft tissue (if it's not a tear of something) I'm thinking warmth, massage maybe. I think you ought to corral your sisters into a spa day. All this time and physical effort you put into taking care of everyone else, maybe a pamper day would go long way towards washing the stress away. And certainly a lot cheaper than an MRI

You're right protocol never seemed to be my friend. I was even thinking about doing it without the bread stick and limiting the fruit. So what's the point? Maybe I'll work on a low fat/low cal ME and see how that works. I have a day or two to figure it out.

Have I told you lately? I love, love, love having you as my buddy!

[TerriMM]

Okay, here's a question. Would you continue the CLA/GLA?

[dazygyrl]

thank you...i too am so thankful for you. made my day...

cla/gla...i dunno...i honestly didn't see any difference when i was doing the cla alone it would be interesting to see if you were to stop it and then do the ff days you did that had low losses and see if they yield better without the cla/gla...

[TerriMM]

I know, I've never had a FF bust before. I'm planning on doing measurements tomorrow which will be a week & a half into CLA/GLA. If I see much of a difference maybe I'll hang, if not maybe I'll take a break for my round.

I was playing around on my tracker and
1T HWC with my coffee (or 2T 1/2&1/2)
2 eggs for breakfast
3oz meat for lunch
A couple chicken thighs for dinner
Comes in at under 600 calories

I'm going to try it.

[dazygyrl]

ahhh, measurements, that would be a good test to see if there's any change. will be anxious to hear what the comparison is.

is that a ff on hcg menu?

[TerriMM]

Actually more of a ME WOE. I did FF last time. Lost 7.4 in seven days and then stalled out.

The measurements are where the CLA/GLA is supposed to excel. If it does for me, I would happily discount the scale.

[TerriMM]

Hey Bud,
Here’s my opinion of CLA/GLA keeping in mind that I’ve only tried it for a week and a half.
Pros – I’ve felt great. I’ve noticed an improvement in my Rosacea related complexion. I feel less bloated and my pants fit better although I didn’t see a perceivable difference in my tape measure.
Cons – For the first time ever I gained weight doing a Fat Fast. It’s a lot of pills.
Since I’m starting an HCG round I will take a break for now and resume after my round is over for further evaluation mainly because I have the supplements.

I did lose most of my drop yesterday, presumptively due to the Advil. Official Friday is -.90. I start my ME WOE with HCG tomorrow.

Great luck on the scale for you tomorrow!!!!

[dazygyrl]

Thanks for the input on that. Interesting info. Will look forward to hearing howitzers goes when you get back to it.

I went over on my dd cals. Had company for super. social eating is the hardest thing for me. :/ I didn't go completely off the rail, but over my cals...now imaskeerd to weigh tomorrow.

Congrats on being down, that's a pretty normal weekly total...isn't it? 1-2 per week?

[dazygyrl]

so i was down .6 from last friday. strangely, i'm ok with this. i know this is not a quick fix method, and i'm ok with that.

hope you have a great weekend. not much planned here this weekend which is fine by me!!

[TerriMM]

I think we both agree. Losing a little and living is a whole lot more satisfying than losing faster and giving up your life!!

Road trip

[dazygyrl]

have a great trip!!

[dazygyrl]

hey, bud...just read in another thread that you and marie are getting together!! sounds like so much fun...don't forget the pictures!!

[TerriMM]

Yep, we're meeting for coffee Wednesday. She's bringing her DH so we have our photographer at hand. Looking forward to it!

[dazygyrl]

can't wait to see pictures!!

[TerriMM]

Last night I finished up with 991 Calories 69% Fat, 29% Protein, 2% Carbs, drank plenty of water and felt like I had a really good day. Today I see a bump of 1.7. I start trying to figure out why and realize I have a perfect storm of why if it’s even more than a temporary fluctuation.
1. I was doing CLA/GLA last week and the week before, during which I busted my first ever FF. I stopped before starting HCG/ME, but just before.
2. Yesterday I did have some lettuce, avocado and SF whip cream. Not a lot, but….
3. HCG and ME may not be happy together.
4. I’m still sore from gardening.
5. I had some wine Friday and Saturday and sometimes I have a two day effect from that.
6. Or it could be just a fluctuation. But not what I would expect during week one of HCG.
Any insight or suggestions would be appreciated.

139.6
139.3
141.0

[dazygyrl]

hmmm....this is strange, indeed.

question...why did you decide ME w/ hcg instead of FF w/ hcg? forgive me if you've already explained this.

what's today's plan? too later for a ff day?

so sorry about the bump, bud...i'm sure that was a shock to see.

[TerriMM]

Hmmm I guess I decided on ME instead of FF because of my FF bust last week and to compare with the FF/HCG experiment from last month.

Was going to stay with what I was doing to see if it was a temporary blimp. I guess I could switch to FF. I'd have to go up to about 1300 calories to make it work fat wise.

What would you do?

You make it feel and sound so logical in just a couple words. Thanks

[dazygyrl]

hmm, 1300 cals.. lol... but seriously...i don't see any harm in making it a ff day or see about alternating ME with FF? (don't forget 2 day effect with FF if tomorrow's weight isn't favorable. )