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Old 01-01-2013, 01:09 PM   #361
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Um, not quite 10 lbs. I think 8.4. not including loading, which I do not count. I only loaded it to lose it - it's an up to go down, and I only care about going down. So I don't count it. I think that motivates me to load high fat and not to gain too much as well (so only gained 0 - .9 depending on what my pre-load weight was.)

I like your plan. I can get very full on steamed asparagus with garlic and seasonings. Especially the thick asparagus. And I never liked it before HCG - how odd!

I think you will find that your plan is a good one. When I JUDDDED, for loss, my UD's were usually no higher than 1600. My DD's were often closer to 600, and it still worked.

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Old 01-01-2013, 03:10 PM   #362
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I bet you had guests that marvelled at your great resolve to stick with your diet. We went to our neighbors NYE party and they kept trying to get me to sample every single desert or appetizer. I really had the cals saved, but just didn't feel like eating, so I didn't.

I see what you mean about not counting loading, but I am pretty certain that I remember gaining at least 3 lbs with loading and I think I counted it in my totals. Are you doing a 21 day round or just going until you feel like it?

I like the JUDDD numbers and feel good with them, have seen good losses, but was allowing myself too many of the higher DDs, which is okay while in maintenance, but I still have a few lbs to go. I have also resolved to get in shape, I seem to let myself down when I make a resolution to work out "x" times per week, so I will try and stay motivated towards that end and hope to see some middle age flab disappear.
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Old 01-01-2013, 03:15 PM   #363
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They were all VERY supportive. I don't allow unsupportive people in my inner circle.

I will do 21 days minimum (that's one more week), but I'm thinking of adding a week to make it four. Just to "lock it in" and maybe take off a couple more lbs.

I am experiencing some hair loss this round, which I did not before. I have really thick hair and I hear it comes back when you stop, so I'm not too worried.
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Do you use Biotin? It is very good for hair and nails and will help grow the hair right back. I remember after going 60 days VLC, that same thing began happening. I panicked a bit and was told that I needed to be on the biotin.
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Just ordered some! How much do I take?
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I just use the NOW brand and take once per day at bedtime. Very good results and now I won't be without it. I like the fact that it helps with skin too!
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I notice that mine is 5000 mcg and it says to take 2x daily with meals. Oops, I can't remember to do that, thus taking at bedtime.
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Hi Buttah!!!

Just coming out of lurk mode to see you succeed! Totally nailing it! AWESOME JOB!
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Hmmm. My third week of this round is starting to resemble the snails-pace I had from week two on in my first round. If this keeps up, I will not be adding a week to my 21 days.

pre-load weight - 155ish (didn't have my scale)
12/17 - VLCD1 155.9 (gained .9 from load)
12/18 - VLCD2 154 (lost 1.9 total, -1 lb from pre-load)
12/19 - VLCD3 152.5 -1.5 (down 2.5 from pre-load)
12/20 - VLCD4 151.9 -.6 (down 3.1 lb from pre-load)
12/21 - VLCD5 152.5 +.5
12/22 - VLCD6 151.1 -1.4 (better!)
12/23 - VLCD7 150.6 -.5 (down 5.3 from pre-load)
12/24 - VLCD8 150.9 +.3
12/25 - VLCD9 150.7 -.2
12/26 - VLCD10 149.9 -.8
12/27 - VLCD11 149.1 -.8 (down about 5.9 from pre-load)
12/28 - VLCD12 148.5 -.6 (-6.5 from pre-load, but I think pre-load was more like 155.5!)
12/29 - VLCD13 147.5 -1.0 (corrected from earlier weigh in)
12/30 - VLCD14 148 +.5
12/31 - VLCD15 146.6 -1.4
1/1 - VLCD16 STS
1/2 - VLCD17 STS

I may do the Premier Protein shakes today as meal replacements (I put spinach and strawberries in 2 of them)... just to shake things up. Robin W's clinic allows them instead of protein servings. When I did it last round, I had three instead of two, with her blessing, because "hunger" demanded it. Calories worked out to just a tad over 500.

I've been very strictly protocol (except subbing extra protein for other calories on NYE) thus far, but I can't psychologically deal with another 3 day stall. Even though I know it's "normal."
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How did your Premier Protein shake day do for you? I wonder about just doing that sometimes for ease, especially during tax season! It feels VERY WEIRD for me not to be doing hcg right now. I did 3 tax seasons, 2010, 2011, and 2012. I feel like I've lost my mooring, or something. If I'm not going to do hcg, I need to do SOMETHING motivating and helpful. I'm JUDDDing, but something along with that to kick-start my @$$ would be good. Ideas? LOL
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Didn't do it. I looked back at last round, and it really didn't do much. I was a great CD during P3 though. Anyway, I needed food today.

It's hard to make recommendations for others. I know for me, when I needed to shake things up, I changed WOE's. First Dukan, the JUDDD, then HCG. At this point JUDDD is the only other thing I'd consider, besides just using the Hunger Scale.

What else are you thinking? Tax season must be such a drain. When is it over?
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So here is yesterday:
pre-load weight - 155ish (didn't have my scale)
12/17 - VLCD1 155.9 (gained .9 from load)
12/18 - VLCD2 154 (lost 1.9 total, -1 lb from pre-load)
12/19 - VLCD3 152.5 -1.5 (down 2.5 from pre-load)
12/20 - VLCD4 151.9 -.6 (down 3.1 lb from pre-load)
12/21 - VLCD5 152.5 +.5
12/22 - VLCD6 151.1 -1.4 (better!)
12/23 - VLCD7 150.6 -.5 (down 5.3 from pre-load)
12/24 - VLCD8 150.9 +.3
12/25 - VLCD9 150.7 -.2
12/26 - VLCD10 149.9 -.8
12/27 - VLCD11 149.1 -.8 (down about 5.9 from pre-load)
12/28 - VLCD12 148.5 -.6 (-6.5 from pre-load, but I think pre-load was more like 155.5!)
12/29 - VLCD13 147.5 -1.0 (corrected from earlier weigh in)
12/30 - VLCD14 148 +.5
12/31 - VLCD15 146.6 -1.4
1/1 - VLCD16 STS
1/2 - VLCD17 STS
1/3 - VLCD18 146.1 -.4

At which I posted in P2: Looks like I'm right back to the snails pace that characterized the last three weeks of my first round (total 6 weeks). Sigh. It's got three days to pick up or I'll stop at 21 days. Not doing an extra week of nothin'.

And today? Just posted this in P2 thread:

stalled yet again today. Or even up a fraction, too early to tell for sure.

This makes four days of either going up a hair, staying the same or going down just a hair (which wouldn't even register on a Simeons era scale). Typical for me after the first two weeks. And it sucks sucky suckerson.

I believe TOM is coming though, and that always packs on two pounds of water for me, lost as soon as its over. I hope that's it. I really, really do. It's too hard to live on 500 calories a day and not see results. And only in week three - come on! Oh, and I don't/won't do apple days, so please don't suggest one! A) even Simeons said they were for "purely psychological reasons," as in the water weight will eventually come off anyway, if that's what it is. B) I would be starving with all that fruit and nothing else - no thank you.

Yesterday I had my second apple at about 8pm, between dinner and bed. Maybe that prevented me from seeing a loss early this morning, but I don't think so. I've done it before.

Grrrrr.


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Go ahead and vent. I would and do! I seem to remember the exact same pattern in my 3rd week and I almost stopped on day 24. I think mine had more to do with my meno-hell. It sucks and ain't nothing you can do when you reach the dreaded stage.

I have been stalled on losses and either I have hit that magical number that my body loves or adding the weight training is really the issue.

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pre-load weight - 155ish (didn't have my scale)
12/17 - VLCD1 155.9 (gained .9 from load)
12/18 - VLCD2 154 (lost 1.9 total, -1 lb from pre-load)
12/19 - VLCD3 152.5 -1.5 (down 2.5 from pre-load)
12/20 - VLCD4 151.9 -.6 (down 3.1 lb from pre-load)
12/21 - VLCD5 152.5 +.5
12/22 - VLCD6 151.1 -1.4 (better!)
12/23 - VLCD7 150.6 -.5 (down 5.3 from pre-load)
12/24 - VLCD8 150.9 +.3
12/25 - VLCD9 150.7 -.2
12/26 - VLCD10 149.9 -.8
12/27 - VLCD11 149.1 -.8 (down about 5.9 from pre-load)
12/28 - VLCD12 148.5 -.6 (-6.5 from pre-load, but I think pre-load was more like 155.5!)
12/29 - VLCD13 147.5 -1.0 (corrected from earlier weigh in)
12/30 - VLCD14 148 +.5
12/31 - VLCD15 146.6 -1.4
1/1 - VLCD16 STS
1/2 - VLCD17 STS
1/3 - VLCD18 146.1 -.4
1/4 - VLCD19 STS
1/5 - VLCD20 145.6 -.5 and a whoopdee BFD doo.!

Shaping up to be a measley 1 pound loss my third week (ends w/ Monday's weight). On HCG! And no, this is not a set point. Could be TOM, as the boobs are getting tender (TMI, but if I can deal with it, so can you), but so far, not. Grrrrr.

ETA: although I guess my round average is pretty standard. Will try to be positive. Just greedy, I guess.

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Old 01-06-2013, 08:53 AM   #375
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12/17 - VLCD1 155.9 (gained .9 from load)
12/18 - VLCD2 154 (lost 1.9 total, -1 lb from pre-load)
12/19 - VLCD3 152.5 -1.5 (down 2.5 from pre-load)
12/20 - VLCD4 151.9 -.6 (down 3.1 lb from pre-load)
12/21 - VLCD5 152.5 +.5
12/22 - VLCD6 151.1 -1.4 (better!)
12/23 - VLCD7 150.6 -.5 (down 5.3 from pre-load)
12/24 - VLCD8 150.9 +.3
12/25 - VLCD9 150.7 -.2
12/26 - VLCD10 149.9 -.8
12/27 - VLCD11 149.1 -.8 (down about 5.9 from pre-load)
12/28 - VLCD12 148.5 -.6 (-6.5 from pre-load, but I think pre-load was more like 155.5!)
12/29 - VLCD13 147.5 -1.0 (corrected from earlier weigh in)
12/30 - VLCD14 148 +.5
12/31 - VLCD15 146.6 -1.4
1/1 - VLCD16 STS
1/2 - VLCD17 STS
1/3 - VLCD18 146.1 -.4
1/4 - VLCD19 STS
1/5 - VLCD20 145.6 -.5 and a whoopdee BFD doo.!
1/6 - VLCD21 145.8 (meh - calling that STS)

Yes, I am back in HCG turtle-ville. That is for sure. Worse than turtle-ville. Turtles don't go backwards to go forwards every two steps.
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I am a turtle also and have the stalls quite a bit. I don't know if I could bear it on 500 cals though? It would be frustrating and mess with my head. I can only think that it would have to break soon.
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Yeah, I am definitely repeating past history in these post-second-weeks. Man o' man, this sucks. I eat 500 calories of strict protocol foods, and I wake up, day after to day, to something like this:


pre-load weight - 155ish (didn't have my scale)
12/17 - VLCD1 155.9 (gained .9 from load)
12/18 - VLCD2 154 (lost 1.9 total, -1 lb from pre-load)
12/19 - VLCD3 152.5 -1.5 (down 2.5 from pre-load)
12/20 - VLCD4 151.9 -.6 (down 3.1 lb from pre-load)
12/21 - VLCD5 152.5 +.5
12/22 - VLCD6 151.1 -1.4 (better!)
12/23 - VLCD7 150.6 -.5 (down 5.3 from pre-load)
12/24 - VLCD8 150.9 +.3
12/25 - VLCD9 150.7 -.2
12/26 - VLCD10 149.9 -.8
12/27 - VLCD11 149.1 -.8 (down about 5.9 from pre-load)
12/28 - VLCD12 148.5 -.6 (-6.5 from pre-load, but I think pre-load was more like 155.5!)
12/29 - VLCD13 147.5 -1.0 (corrected from earlier weigh in)
12/30 - VLCD14 148 +.5
12/31 - VLCD15 146.6 -1.4
1/1 - VLCD16 STS
1/2 - VLCD17 STS
1/3 - VLCD18 146.1 -.4
1/4 - VLCD19 STS
1/5 - VLCD20 145.6 -.5 and a whoopdee BFD doo.!
1/6 - VLCD21 145.8 (meh - calling that STS)
1/7 - VLCD22 145.5

Sigh. Today marks the beginning of week 4. I hope I don't regret doing it. P3 is sounding purty nice right now.

Oh, for the record, weekly losses:


week one - 4.1 lbs
week two - 4.3!
week three - ONE friggin' whopping pound. Okay 1.1. Sorry, I left off a tenth of a pound.

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@Buttah sorry to see week 3 slow-down for you. However, things happen that don't show on the scale. I know this to be true for me, from previous experience. I have had 2-week stalls!!!! with no d@mn good reason. But we move onward and downward eventually.

Tax season is supposed to be over April 15. We always have extensions though, and I'm never really done because I do other stuff also. BUT the worst of it and the 6-7 days a week at 10-12-14+ hour days is usually from Feb 1 to April 15. I'm biding my time right now and I will be looking for those shakes and probably apportioning my food in 500-calorie hcg protocol-style packets to take to work for strict DD with similar foods but added healthy fats and proteins for UD to 1600-1700 max. I will use the shakes when the pressure is on. I literally can't swallow real food when I get under serious pressure. On hcg in the past when that kind of thing hit me I would substitute egg protein or milk protein as per protocol and have either 1 egg and 3 eggwhites or eggwhite protein in a shake or cottage cheese or non-fat yogurt in 100-calorie increments just to make it through. It's really weird. Only thing is I won't have the hunger suppression without the hcg, so it'll be just me and 500-calorie DD's (and shakes for backups) but I can add/mix/ etc and not be quite so strict but just keep to calories and good ratios/good nutrition. Although I have had some pretty easy DD's at times.

At least that's my thoughts now. I may bail from this plan in a month and do a round proper I'm still getting anxiety/heart pounding from cortisol/adrenal levels being somewhat unbalanced. I am hoping that extra protein and extra vitamins will help, along with the specialized supplements for that particular thing.
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Hi Marie,
Just your explanation of Tax Season makes me anxious. I wish you didn't have to work that many hours.

Have you looked at the last post on PHD? http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/ot...6179451http://

Interesting and may actually work to your advantage for DD. Only reason that I say this is because Dr. Jaminet believes that the time of fast 16 hrs is sufficient. Also, he speaks a lot about circadian rhythm and fasting. I know that I maintain easy even when having a few UD together, as long as they are Fast 7 and I think this explains what is happening. He also believes BB can be used during fasting as well as CO without breaking fast.

Buttah, Aren't you pretty close to your goal? I think you may be just like Redhead who went down to her goal weight in just a few months of JUDDDing from her last round of hcg. She said it was effortless. I am hoping this will happen for me this next couple of months.
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Wow, two great posts.

C'Marie, your plan sounds solid, but you do seem to be "craving" (if that's possible) a proper HCG round. What is it about HCG that messes up your adrenals? Can it be addressed in some way?

To answer your question, Sunday, YES, I am very close to my "goal," but to be honest, that is a conservative goal. While once upon a time I would have been THRILLED to be at even 145, HCG has made me believe 135 is possible. While I seem to carry my weight very well (people think I weigh less than I do), perhaps because I'm busty and have muscular legs, I am still just at the top of "normal" on a BMI chart. And since last time I stabilized just above the top of my window (about 2.5 - 3 lbs above LIW), I'd like to get a bit lower. 135 is not unrealistic for my body type.

As for getting to goal, whatever that may be, with JUDDD, I have some trepidation involved. I fear I won't be able to do 500 calorie days for any length of time again after doing HCG. It was hard to feel hungry every other day and get any writing (which is my profession). To be honest, HCG protocol is easier for me, mostly because of the "short term" nature of it. I keep thinking "just one more 21 day round." Sounds so much easier than the up/down of JUDDDing at this point. (Maybe I've forgotten how easy JUDDD was?)

But... on top of that, I stabilized SO WELL for 9 weeks between rounds - I'm nervous to mess with that. And I enjoyed myself and felt great. I want THAT P3/P4 again. And as you know, I won't JUDDD if it's to be followed by another round. Never, ever, doing a round straight from JUDDDing again!

Having said all that, I think JUDDD for lifetime maintenance (for me) is very appealing. Big difference between 500 and 800 calories!

But we'll see.

TOM is definitely here, so I know this week will be better than last (I always lose a couple pounds from it, and the fact that I've STS, tells me I've actually lost, if you know what I mean. Soon the scale will show it! It's my last week, so hopefully I'll get to 143. Then, I'll take off 6 weeks, and perhaps... just maybe... get to my new lower goal 21 days after that.

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Oh, I am not talking 500 cal DD. I believe as long as you protein fast eod, you will be fine with more than 500. I am putting the science to the test and will report back w/ my results. I have learned so much from watching & doing the Potato fast and if Jaminet is correct in his advice, I am thrilled to do it.

I agree that you have the most successful P3 protocol of many that I have seen! I think that Robin has been a great help in this! So, you may be able to get there without ever fasting or only IFing when you deem necessary. Nothing wrong with that!
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Okay, what is EOD? Every other day? Can you explain what you mean? I did Dukan for a couple of weeks, and that's just protein (not fat, nothing else) every other day.

When I did my DD's I did focus on protein. And I rarely made do with less than 600, and still lost. But I'm still not sure what you're suggesting, and I'd love to know.

And what is PHD? There are some intermittent fasting things I still have to learn.
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:34 AM   #383
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Oh, I almost forgot!

pre-load weight - 155ish (didn't have my scale)
12/17 - VLCD1 155.9 (gained .9 from load)
12/18 - VLCD2 154 (lost 1.9 total, -1 lb from pre-load)
12/19 - VLCD3 152.5 -1.5 (down 2.5 from pre-load)
12/20 - VLCD4 151.9 -.6 (down 3.1 lb from pre-load)
12/21 - VLCD5 152.5 +.5
12/22 - VLCD6 151.1 -1.4 (better!)
12/23 - VLCD7 150.6 -.5 (down 5.3 from pre-load)
12/24 - VLCD8 150.9 +.3
12/25 - VLCD9 150.7 -.2
12/26 - VLCD10 149.9 -.8
12/27 - VLCD11 149.1 -.8 (down about 5.9 from pre-load)
12/28 - VLCD12 148.5 -.6 (-6.5 from pre-load, but I think pre-load was more like 155.5!)
12/29 - VLCD13 147.5 -1.0 (corrected from earlier weigh in)
12/30 - VLCD14 148 +.5
12/31 - VLCD15 146.6 -1.4
1/1 - VLCD16 STS
1/2 - VLCD17 STS
1/3 - VLCD18 146.1 -.4
1/4 - VLCD19 STS
1/5 - VLCD20 145.6 -.5 and a whoopdee BFD doo.!
1/6 - VLCD21 145.8 (meh - calling that STS)
1/7 - VLCD22 145.5
1/8 - VLCD23 145.1 -4 (maybe finally getting somewhere, but JEEZ!)

First true day of TOM (just a "hint" yesterday), so I expect things to pick up!
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Okay, what is EOD? Every other day? Can you explain what you mean? I did Dukan for a couple of weeks, and that's just protein (not fat, nothing else) every other day.

When I did my DD's I did focus on protein. And I rarely made do with less than 600, and still lost. But I'm still not sure what you're suggesting, and I'd love to know.

And what is PHD? There are some intermittent fasting things I still have to learn.
EOD is every other day. PHD is Perfect Health Diet. Perfect Health Diet

Basically, I am doing the reverse and limiting my protein on DD. If you look at the ratios it would be 65/20/15 and when you have time for some interesting reading, look at the link, especially the last page.

TOM will leave you with an excellent loss, so I can see you getting to your goal.
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OMG, MAJOR CORRECTION! I WEIGHED TOO SOON!

Oh, I almost forgot!

pre-load weight - 155ish (didn't have my scale)
12/17 - VLCD1 155.9 (gained .9 from load)
12/18 - VLCD2 154 (lost 1.9 total, -1 lb from pre-load)
12/19 - VLCD3 152.5 -1.5 (down 2.5 from pre-load)
12/20 - VLCD4 151.9 -.6 (down 3.1 lb from pre-load)
12/21 - VLCD5 152.5 +.5
12/22 - VLCD6 151.1 -1.4 (better!)
12/23 - VLCD7 150.6 -.5 (down 5.3 from pre-load)
12/24 - VLCD8 150.9 +.3
12/25 - VLCD9 150.7 -.2
12/26 - VLCD10 149.9 -.8
12/27 - VLCD11 149.1 -.8 (down about 5.9 from pre-load)
12/28 - VLCD12 148.5 -.6 (-6.5 from pre-load, but I think pre-load was more like 155.5!)
12/29 - VLCD13 147.5 -1.0 (corrected from earlier weigh in)
12/30 - VLCD14 148 +.5
12/31 - VLCD15 146.6 -1.4
1/1 - VLCD16 STS
1/2 - VLCD17 STS
1/3 - VLCD18 146.1 -.4
1/4 - VLCD19 STS
1/5 - VLCD20 145.6 -.5 and a whoopdee BFD doo.!
1/6 - VLCD21 145.8 (meh - calling that STS)
1/7 - VLCD22 145.5
1/8 - VLCD23 144.6 -.9

Thank you, TOM, and please continue to do your thing!
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@Buttah, you're right, I am "craving" an hcg round. The fast loss is very tempting. Problem with my adrenals is that it it doesn't take much to get me out of balance hormonally speaking now during menohell. I am struggling with it now. If I kept up with the isocort (a form of plant-based cortisol) and my other supplements I may be ok. I probably should be on thyroid meds and some progesterone. Considering maca at this point (still researching) to see if I can provoke my body to produce what it needs. Also with imbalances like this, joint pain can be an issue, and fixing that balance can help joint pain. One good thing about hcg is it takes away the joint pain for awhile only due to the relaxing effects Dr. S. saw and mentions in P & I.

BUT here's the thing, IF I lost this same stupid 10 pounds over again, and can't keep it off, mentally it turns my success of losing 100+ pounds into a fail. I.feel.like.a.failure. That is hard to take, and for some reason I see the glass as half-empty (ya, don't feel good about the major weighloss, focus on the 10 you can't keep off). I am trying to see if I can get it off with JUDDD and then if I do an hcg round to get further toward goal. My hubs is concerned with my being able to maintain without being a CraZy woman. He likes me to be at peace. But I feel kinda stuck in betwixt and between, not really at goal, kinda in a holding pattern. This may be a setpoint issue, and I may be fine once I get far enough past it to not bounce up immediately. There's my story and my mixed up thinking! GAH
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Yay! You are DOWN! Woo Hoo!!!
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Yay! You are DOWN! Woo Hoo!!!
I see. And I totally understand. Like you, I tend to feel best when I've really analyzed EVERYTHING. And that drives people around me crazy.

I've been worried about keeping this weight off so much lately. Especially as I plan for my tummy tuck. Not because I don't think I have every resolve possible, as much or more than anyone! But because of the whole "fat cells" never go away and when drained, they sort of demand to be fed back up again (via hunger) theory that seems to be the most prevalent answer as to why people re-gain.

Robin W told me, and has written, that fat cells DO DIE permanently. But common wisdom takes the opposite theory. I hope Robin is correct. I've been reading that reversterol (sp?) can help kill those fat cells. Have to research this more. Because the sad fact is that most people regain lost weight.

AND I DON'T WANT TO.

But you do have to focus on all that you've lost, and not the last ten.

Sounds like your plan is, again, very solid. You know what works for you!

As for me, today...

pre-load weight - 155ish (didn't have my scale)
12/17 - VLCD1 155.9 (gained .9 from load)
12/18 - VLCD2 154 (lost 1.9 total, -1 lb from pre-load)
12/19 - VLCD3 152.5 -1.5 (down 2.5 from pre-load)
12/20 - VLCD4 151.9 -.6 (down 3.1 lb from pre-load)
12/21 - VLCD5 152.5 +.5
12/22 - VLCD6 151.1 -1.4 (better!)
12/23 - VLCD7 150.6 -.5 (down 5.3 from pre-load)
12/24 - VLCD8 150.9 +.3
12/25 - VLCD9 150.7 -.2
12/26 - VLCD10 149.9 -.8
12/27 - VLCD11 149.1 -.8 (down about 5.9 from pre-load)
12/28 - VLCD12 148.5 -.6 (-6.5 from pre-load, but I think pre-load was more like 155.5!)
12/29 - VLCD13 147.5 -1.0 (corrected from earlier weigh in)
12/30 - VLCD14 148 +.5
12/31 - VLCD15 146.6 -1.4
1/1 - VLCD16 STS
1/2 - VLCD17 STS
1/3 - VLCD18 146.1 -.4
1/4 - VLCD19 STS
1/5 - VLCD20 145.6 -.5 and a whoopdee BFD doo.!
1/6 - VLCD21 145.8 (meh - calling that STS)
1/7 - VLCD22 145.5 TOM!
1/8 - VLCD23 144.6 -.9
1/9 - VLCD24 144.4 -.2

Not much, but at least moving for two days in a row, and still filled with TOM. I think my last possible day for a big TOM loss is either tomorrow or the next day. Usually it's by tomorrow.
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CORRECTION - weighted TOO EARLY ONCE AGAIN!


pre-load weight - 155ish (didn't have my scale)
12/17 - VLCD1 155.9 (gained .9 from load)
12/18 - VLCD2 154 (lost 1.9 total, -1 lb from pre-load)
12/19 - VLCD3 152.5 -1.5 (down 2.5 from pre-load)
12/20 - VLCD4 151.9 -.6 (down 3.1 lb from pre-load)
12/21 - VLCD5 152.5 +.5
12/22 - VLCD6 151.1 -1.4 (better!)
12/23 - VLCD7 150.6 -.5 (down 5.3 from pre-load)
12/24 - VLCD8 150.9 +.3
12/25 - VLCD9 150.7 -.2
12/26 - VLCD10 149.9 -.8
12/27 - VLCD11 149.1 -.8 (down about 5.9 from pre-load)
12/28 - VLCD12 148.5 -.6 (-6.5 from pre-load, but I think pre-load was more like 155.5!)
12/29 - VLCD13 147.5 -1.0 (corrected from earlier weigh in)
12/30 - VLCD14 148 +.5
12/31 - VLCD15 146.6 -1.4
1/1 - VLCD16 STS
1/2 - VLCD17 STS
1/3 - VLCD18 146.1 -.4
1/4 - VLCD19 STS
1/5 - VLCD20 145.6 -.5 and a whoopdee BFD doo.!
1/6 - VLCD21 145.8 (meh - calling that STS)
1/7 - VLCD22 145.5 TOM!
1/8 - VLCD23 144.6 -.9
1/9 - VLCD24 144.0 -.6

much better!
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That's 11 solid pounds! AWESOME!
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