My modified version of the fat fast 5.8lbs lost in less than 3 days!!!!

[Flavia]

Thanks Mary, was starting to worry about u!!! Where did u get the ticker??? I want one too!!!

[Bikerchick]

I built a ticker, but can't get it to load..grr

[SgtBrownsWife]

My ticker is from lily something. It says on the top of the ticker. I couldn't get any of the ones from ticker factory to load so I looked elsewhere.

I have about 20 mins left of work now. I am WORN out. I did weigh a few minutes ago and in back down to my lowest so hopefully my hormones won't be playing any games making me gain water the next few days

[Flavia]

woot woot

[manders]

Hey girls.

Breakfast
4 small pieces of bacon
3 TBSP HWC in coffee
1 TBSP coffee creamer

Snack
4 clouds

Lunch
1 avocado
2 TBSP peanut butter

Total: 1270 calories

My fat grams say 85 but it didn't load the bacon nutritional info so it's got to be way more than that. Protein is only at 11 without the bacon. My carbs are a bit high due to the avocado but I overestimated the size of it so I would err on the side of caution.

Calories feel a bit high for only being 2:45pm but I'm burning so much energy at work today running around like a nutcase. I've already done 3 sets of gel nails and ran up and down the stairs like 8 times. GAH! Even after just eating that avocado and peanut butter, I feel like my blood sugar is quite low

Check back in in about 2 hrs!

[Flavia]

U are either on Probation or u said something the mods didn't like cause its against the TOS
Term of Service

[junkn]

Originally Posted by shelby'snana

do y'all buy the macademia nuts with sea salt ? That's what i'm finding on 2 sites....... the off brands offer raw ~~ but have bad reviews ;(

What do y'all get ?

i ordered mine from amazon. it has seasalt and was around 26$ for a big container. i just got it in yesterday.

____


well, i was on the FF for 4 days then went back to VLCD since i'm on hhcg for 2 days and gained 1/2 a pound so decided i'm going to try to lose these last 4 pounds doing the FF.

not sure where i'm going from there.

so today i had

3 T hwc & 2 T CO in coffee

4 pieces of bacon

3 eggs

8 green olives

1 oz mac nuts

10 almonds

2 cream cheese clouds

= 1379 calories

percentages are:

.861 fat
.104 protein
.031 carb

does that sound right? am i gonna die from so little protein/carbs?

[manders]

OOPS, I wasn't even thinking and I accidentally said the name of my nutrition app.

Sorry mods!!!!!

[Flavia]

Sorry I don't understand ur percentages?????

[manders]

your protein should be higher than that if you had 3 eggs and 4 pieces of bacon.

EDIT: oh, are you writing out the numerical version of your percentages? so you had 86.1% fat, 10.4% protein and 3.1% carbs?

[junkn]

Originally Posted by manders

your protein should be higher than that if you had 3 eggs and 4 pieces of bacon.

EDIT: oh, are you writing out the numerical version of your percentages? so you had 86.1% fat, 10.4% protein and 3.1% carbs?

manders! i thought you sucked at math!

and yes you are right. i just entered whats on the calculator because well.. i suck at math.. even if its just moving the period over 2 places :P

but how do those percentages look to you guys?

[Flavia]

here is an interesting read about protein percentages and how to figure them out by Rebecca Latham:

"Well, I'll tell you how I got to my grams of protein, and then you can decide if it is a system you want to use or not.

The first thing I did was to figure out my ideal weight based on my height. I used Dr. Jan Kwasniewski's method for figuring out my ideal weight. The basic premise is this: First, you figure out how many grams of protein you should be eating based on Dr. Kwasniewski's formula. Then you use these ratios to figure out how many grams of fat and grams of carbs you should be eating: For every gram of protein you eat, you should be laso eating 2.5 to 3.5 grams of fat and 0.5 grams of carbs.

PROTEIN : FAT : CARBS
1 : 2.5 - 3.5 : 0.5

I'll use myself as an example and show you how I came up with my numbers. I am 5'3" tall, which is the same as 160 cm. To arrive at my "due body weight", I subtract 100 cm from my 160 cm, and I get 60 cm. The number 60 is now the amount of kilograms I should weigh. I decided a while back that I wanted to weigh 132 pounds with 25% body fat. And guess what! My goal weight of 132 pounds equals 60 kg, which is exactly what Dr. Kwasniewski's says I should weigh! Interesting...

He says that you should eat that same number of grams of protein each day, give or take 10%. I tried it with adding 10%, making my grams of protein 66, but I did not lose weight doing that, so now I am trying it the other way - 60g of protein minus 10%, which is 54. I am now eating 54 grams of protein per day.

Another method is to use Phinney and Volek's calculator - eat 0.6 to 1.0 gram of protein per pound of goal lean body mass. Using me again as an example, with a goal weight of 132 and a desired body fat percentage of 25, I would be 99 pounds of lean mass and 33 pounds of body fat. So I should eat between 59 and 99 grams of protein per day. As I mentioned before, eating more protein did not work for me, so I am staying at the low end.

Just for fun, I also looked up the RDA for protein for a woman. Interestingly, they do not go by height and the RDA for a woman is 46 grams of protein per day. Keep in mind that the RDA is based on the amount you need to avoid disease, not for optimal health. I think that number is pretty low, especially for a taller woman.

The chart in the new Atkins book says a woman my height should eat between 71 and 149g of protein per day. That's a pretty large range, and I can't imagine that 149g of protein per day for a little woman like me would be the right thing to do!

Summary:

54-66g - Kwasniewski
59-99g - Phinney/Volek
46g - RDA
71-149g - Atkins

I chose the first one, because I've tried eating more, and I did not lose weight. Going on the premise that I may have been eating too much protein, I'm trying the lower end."

[SgtBrownsWife]

Originally Posted by junkn

manders! i thought you sucked at math!

and yes you are right. i just entered whats on the calculator because well.. i suck at math.. even if its just moving the period over 2 places :P

but how do those percentages look to you guys?

I think they look good!!

[SgtBrownsWife]

Originally Posted by g3rmanchik

here is an interesting read about protein percentages and how to figure them out by Rebecca Latham:

"Well, I'll tell you how I got to my grams of protein, and then you can decide if it is a system you want to use or not.

The first thing I did was to figure out my ideal weight based on my height. I used Dr. Jan Kwasniewski's method for figuring out my ideal weight. The basic premise is this: First, you figure out how many grams of protein you should be eating based on Dr. Kwasniewski's formula. Then you use these ratios to figure out how many grams of fat and grams of carbs you should be eating: For every gram of protein you eat, you should be laso eating 2.5 to 3.5 grams of fat and 0.5 grams of carbs.

PROTEIN : FAT : CARBS
1 : 2.5 - 3.5 : 0.5

I'll use myself as an example and show you how I came up with my numbers. I am 5'3" tall, which is the same as 160 cm. To arrive at my "due body weight", I subtract 100 cm from my 160 cm, and I get 60 cm. The number 60 is now the amount of kilograms I should weigh. I decided a while back that I wanted to weigh 132 pounds with 25% body fat. And guess what! My goal weight of 132 pounds equals 60 kg, which is exactly what Dr. Kwasniewski's says I should weigh! Interesting...

He says that you should eat that same number of grams of protein each day, give or take 10%. I tried it with adding 10%, making my grams of protein 66, but I did not lose weight doing that, so now I am trying it the other way - 60g of protein minus 10%, which is 54. I am now eating 54 grams of protein per day.

Another method is to use Phinney and Volek's calculator - eat 0.6 to 1.0 gram of protein per pound of goal lean body mass. Using me again as an example, with a goal weight of 132 and a desired body fat percentage of 25, I would be 99 pounds of lean mass and 33 pounds of body fat. So I should eat between 59 and 99 grams of protein per day. As I mentioned before, eating more protein did not work for me, so I am staying at the low end.

Just for fun, I also looked up the RDA for protein for a woman. Interestingly, they do not go by height and the RDA for a woman is 46 grams of protein per day. Keep in mind that the RDA is based on the amount you need to avoid disease, not for optimal health. I think that number is pretty low, especially for a taller woman.

The chart in the new Atkins book says a woman my height should eat between 71 and 149g of protein per day. That's a pretty large range, and I can't imagine that 149g of protein per day for a little woman like me would be the right thing to do!

Summary:

54-66g - Kwasniewski
59-99g - Phinney/Volek
46g - RDA
71-149g - Atkins

I chose the first one, because I've tried eating more, and I did not lose weight. Going on the premise that I may have been eating too much protein, I'm trying the lower end."

That's really interesting! I don't quite understand the calculations but I think her referring to pounds and kilograms was what threw me off. I get the gist of it. The ont thing for me is I don't know how much body fat I will have at 145. I don't really have a percent goal. I just want to be skinny LOL. The protein for Atkins is insanely high to me. I could see eating up to 90 grams when you are maintaining but that's it. I float around 50 on days I eat lots of fiber and about 60 grams on other days when I am not Doing lots of fiber. I would be afraid to even change anything now since it works so well

[AlieKatt]

Originally Posted by manders

Hey girls.

Breakfast
4 small pieces of bacon
3 TBSP HWC in coffee
1 TBSP coffee creamer

Snack
4 clouds

Lunch
1 avocado
2 TBSP peanut butter

Total: 1270 calories

My fat grams say 85 but it didn't load the bacon nutritional info so it's got to be way more than that. Protein is only at 11 without the bacon. My carbs are a bit high due to the avocado but I overestimated the size of it so I would err on the side of caution.

Calories feel a bit high for only being 2:45pm but I'm burning so much energy at work today running around like a nutcase. I've already done 3 sets of gel nails and ran up and down the stairs like 8 times. GAH! Even after just eating that avocado and peanut butter, I feel like my blood sugar is quite low

Check back in in about 2 hrs!

Calories are fine- promise. Carbs may be a little high so try not to have many tonight. GOOD JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AlieKatt]

Originally Posted by SgtBrownsWife

Hi everyone!!!

Just dropping in for a quick minute! Work is busy today and I have about an hour left of it so I just wanted to stop in and see what I'm missing. I will reply to posts when I am done. For now it looks like Christina and Allie have the ship under control

Hi Mary! Sounds like your dropping again. Great news! Chik and I are holding down your fort! It feels good to be able to help.

[Flavia]

Ja, I figured mine out....an american lbs is 2.2 to a kilogram.....
according to them my goal weight should be 143lbs which is 65kg with about 25% lbm
I think 25% is a good look for women, not boney.
So my protein in the one is 65gr and the other 64.75 on the low end 107.25gr on the high
Fat is 146.25gr - 204.75 gr
Carbs is 29.25gr (I almost never go over 20)
LBM was 120 in one and 107.25 on the other.....bit diff

I found that very interesting.....some stuff I am dead on and others I am off, but not going to up my carbs. Haven't had meat yet so my protein I think is going to end up being dead on. Well, I just checked and I am at 50gr for protein after dinner. So I am on the low end but that is also fine with me...

[junkn]

omg g3rmanchik.. that sounds great but did i mention i suck at math?

can you help me figure out what mine is pretty please!

i'm 5'1 1/2 and weigh 114 pounds.

thanks!

[AlieKatt]

Ok, I'm lost here...
I'm 5'5" WHICH IS 165 CM - 100 = 65
65 KG = 143.3 pounds is what I should weigh

I do what now??? lolololol

[Flavia]

Junkn=
158cm with 25%BF
158 * .25= 39.5
158 - 39.5 = 118.5 Goal BM (u already weigh less then this!!!! so I wil luse ur weight)

114* .6 = 68.4gr low range protein
114* 1 = 114gr high range protein

68.4gr protein * 2.5 = 171 gr fat low range
68.4gr protein * 3.5 = 239.4gr fat high range

68.4gr protein * 0.5 = 34.2 gr of carbs (not net carbs just carbs
__________________________________________________ ____________________

[Flavia]

Originally Posted by AlieKatt

Ok, I'm lost here...
I'm 5'5" WHICH IS 165 CM - 100 = 65
65 KG = 143.3 pounds is what I should weigh

I do what now??? lolololol

Alie urs is the same then mine 65kg = 143lbs same height
just mine

'Ja, I figured mine out....an american lbs is 2.2 to a kilogram.....
according to them my goal weight should be 143lbs which is 65kg with about 25% lbm
I think 25% is a good look for women, not boney.
So my protein in the one is 65gr and the other 64.75 on the low end 107.25gr on the high
Fat is 146.25gr - 204.75 gr
Carbs is 29.25gr (I almost never go over 20)
LBM was 120 in one and 107.25 on the other.....bit diff'

[junkn]

Originally Posted by g3rmanchik

Junkn=
158cm with 25%BF
158 * .25= 39.5
158 - 39.5 = 118.5 Goal BM (u already weigh less then this!!!! so I wil luse ur weight)

114* .6 = 68.4gr low range protein
114* 1 = 114gr high range protein

68.4gr protein * 2.5 = 171 gr fat low range
68.4gr protein * 3.5 = 239.4gr fat high range

68.4gr protein * 0.5 = 34.2 gr of carbs (not net carbs just carbs
__________________________________________________ ____________________

oh thank you so much but 68 grams of protein!! sounds mighty high esp with this WOE.. and i only had 10 grams of protein today sooo am i gonna die?

just kidding. so with all the info you posted, is that a general guideline as to what our bodies need to maintain?

[betty301]

My you all are chatty!! Love it!!

If you can figure out your lean mass that is the upper limit in protein that is recommended in 'the art and science..'book. so .06-1gram per lb of lbm.

for me, I can have 81-135 grams of protein. (according to the book) I'm ok with going a little lower if need be.

I need to focus on diet more than ever. Got some not so good news at the doc today but it's ok. Because now I have a more definitive diagnosis and I can go from here. It's my back. And I have to get tested for RA amongst other things. Coupled with two bad knees I am limited by what I can do in the gym lately..but maybe someday I can work my back up to the level I'm used to working in with some modifications of course.

ok, here are my foods!

6 slices of bacon
2oz cream cheese mixed with
1 laughing cow(cinammon kind!)
10 black olives
1oz mixed nuts
1 cup cauli w/2tbsp ranch
*none of this makes sense,, But I spent all morning in an urgent care clinic then came home to cram food before rushing out the door again to my appt., lol


1.5oz mixed nuts


7oz beef cubes
1 tbsp ccn oil
2oz cream cheese
1tbsp almond butter

Calories-1680
Protein- 61
Fat- 143
Carbs-35
Fiber- 10

[Flavia]

Junkn, its just a general guideline from diff Dr. like phinney and volek etc...
it mostly doesn't apply to you anyways because u already weigh less then they recommend...
I will keep doing what I am doing, but I thought it was good to know where we stand and what I will eventually aim for as I go toward maintenance....

[Bikerchick]

Ok my chemo brain can't grasp any of this??
So I am 6'0" current weight or ideal weight? 271 or 190 ideal

[Flavia]

Betty hope u get better HUGS

[Flavia]

lory
ur 183cm so they want u to weigh in at 83kg which is 182.6lbs

[Bikerchick]

Originally Posted by g3rmanchik

lory
ur 183cm so they want u to weigh in at 83kg which is 182.6lbs

Well I was close.. so whats the rest of the story?

[Flavia]

Lory
So, say 183lbs
83gr in protein if too high and not losing deduct 10% on the protein gr
83 * 2.5 = 207.5gr for fat
83 * 0.5 = 41.5 gr for carbs (I think that is too high but what ever)

[Bikerchick]

Originally Posted by g3rmanchik

Lory
So, say 183lbs
83gr in protein if too high and not losing deduct 10% on the protein gr
83 * 2.5 = 207.5gr for fat
83 * 0.5 = 41.5 gr for carbs (I think that is too high but what ever)

Thanks Girl! I agree to high carbs, I will adjust my protein as needed.