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Old 08-11-2012, 10:10 AM   #31
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I am still doing the modified fat fast by the way and plan to long term
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I actually agree the label can't be right. there is NO way you can have 325 fat grams and only 330 calories from fat. that equals to just barely over 1 cal. per gram of fat and that just isn't true.

I'm glad your version of fat fast is working for you and think its great you shared so others can try if they want but I wouldn't go as far as to say it for sure would work well for someone else trying it. it MAY work well, but not necessarily since our bodies do not all work the same.

I do think its important to point out the discrepency in numbers on the label for those that want to make sure they are getting an accurate count on calories. if not counting calories strict then no biggie, go for it, adjust if needed.

I don't see this as a healthy long term plan, personally but to each their own. glad its working for you and your stall is broken. gotta LOVE that feeling
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Old 08-11-2012, 11:43 AM   #33
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Steady is absolutely correct. That label is wrong, or you are reading it wrong. Even a quarter pounder with cheese has only 26 grams of fat. My guess is whatever that label is from actually has 32.5 grams of fat. Nobody is attacking you or what you are eating. But your numbers are misleading. I agree that you should double check them, perhaps check the company's website. Because, as Steady pointed out, you cannot have more grams of fat in something than it actually weighs. It is physically impossible.

I will also congratulate you on your loss. I know it sucks being stalled, I've been there many times. Good luck with your fat fast!
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Old 08-11-2012, 11:48 AM   #34
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I did check the website and the exact nutrition label is posted on page 1 of this thread
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I did check the website and the exact nutrition label is posted on page 1 of this thread
Well maybe you could tell us What brand it is or how to google it so that we can see that you're right.
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Do people normally regain the weight quickly after one of these fasts?
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Hi Luca,

From what I have read no and also on my multiple stents with meat and eggs I never regained the weight. This is very similar just less protein more fat. I suggest just gradually upping calories and or protein when u reach goal that way it is far less likely. I don't think you will have any problems though

That's why I am eating 1,700 calories a day not 1,000 as suggested so I can keep it up and also not gain everything back once I am at goal.
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:44 PM   #38
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Down another .4 lbs making for a total of .8 lbs down today! Woohoo!
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Hamburger with lettuce, bacon, cheese
480 calories 325 grams fat
The label is wrong. 1g of fat has 9 calories, so if that were the actual fat content it would have a minimum of 2925 calories (then add the 4 cals per g of protein to that).
It may have 32g of fat(that would account for 288 calories).

I'm glad it's working for you, but labels are incorrect all the time, don't accept them at face value if it's a glaringly obvious error on their part
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:10 PM   #40
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Dottie where r u getting 288 calories from?
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Dottie where r u getting 288 calories from?
32 x's 9 =288

if it really has 32 grams of fat, at 9 calories per gram that would equal 288 calories.
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:44 PM   #42
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It doesn't have 32grams of fat or 288 calories so that's why I'm asking where those numbers even came from...
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The 32g fat was guessing that the 5 at the end (325g of fat -which it simply can not be) was either a .5 (32.5g fat) or just someone typing it into the labeling machine wrong.

1g fat = 9 cals
1g carbs = 4 cals
1g protein = 4 cals

So when you see a label, you can use that formula to see if it's correct.

I'm not sure where the 9g carbs comes from on your post though, that would be a lot of carbs for a burger patty. What else was in it?
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What everyone is trying to say is that 1 gram of fat equals 9 calories. It doesn't matter the food....on a very basic level of energy, every gram of fat has 9 calories.

If your label says 325 grams of fat, that would equal 2,925 calories JUST IN FAT. But the calorie count you've listed is 480 calories. Where did the other 2,445 calories go?? Not even counting the calories from protein, etc.

Its just mathematically impossible. No one is doubting your success, but you can't argue basic math. Clearly the 325 grams of fat is a typo. What Dottie was pointing out, was that possibly the typo is that it has 32.5 grams of fat, which is mathematically possible.
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Incorrect labels can be a very frustrating part of any diet!
Makes you want to bang your head against a wall
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Incorrect labels can be a very frustrating part of any diet!
Makes you want to bang your head against a wall
For sure. What really frustrates me is when you have two identical products with different nutritional information. You always want to go for the *better* numbers..but are probably only cheating yourself.
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Steady,

This is the EXACT info from the nutrition label


NUTRITIONAL INFORMATION:
Serving Size (g) 277
Total Calories 480
Calories From Fat 330
Fat (g) 325
Saturated Fat (g) 13
Cholesterol (mg) 90
Sodium (mg) 1160
Carbohydrates (g) 9
Dietary Fiber (g) 1
Sugars (g) 6
Protein (g) 21
Using the exact label saying 330 cals from fat that would be 36.6g fat (330 divided by the 9 calories per gram of fat).
Add that 330 to the carb calories (9g x 4 cals per = 36) plus the protein calories (21g protein x 4 cals per = 84) and you'd have:
330 fat cals
+ 36 carb cals
+ 84 protein cals
=450 cals

So even their own math doesn't quite add up.
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Old 08-11-2012, 05:25 PM   #48
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Well either way it doesn't make a difference to me if it has 100 grams of fat or 1,000. My plan is working!!!!
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Personally I wouldn't eat a hamburger patty with 9 carbs, meat should be 0 or pretty close to it!


Congrats on your success, if it starts to slow down, try changing things around a bit. If it ain't broke don't fix it, but if it breaks, look for the cause and find a fix.
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it will be interesting to see if this loss continues or if it's the "Atkin's loan" of water loss when you go into ketosis. some of us don't stay in ketosis even eating 20 grams of carbs or less a day, so it could be that.
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Old 08-12-2012, 02:38 PM   #51
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I am down another .4 lbs so far today making for 7lbs lost in less than 5 days. When I was on meat and eggs I had the whoosh of maybe 4-5 lbs then it would just stop. I know think that was because I was eating way too much protein.
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Old 08-12-2012, 02:39 PM   #52
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Also I would only lose weight for 2-3 days on meat and eggs. I have done meat and eggs multiple times one of those times I staid on it for 7 weeks and lost a whopping 6 lbs lol
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there is a great thread about nutritional ketosis, they are really great there with the percentages of fat/protein/carbs needed and in a nutshell it's high fat, moderate protein and lowcarb. the higher fat percentage daily is key!! sounds like what you are doing and might want to give them a shout...it's under challenges i think kutgw and weigh to go!!
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Old 08-12-2012, 03:33 PM   #54
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Thanks may! I will go check them out!


I am down another .4 lbs today for a total of .8 lbs today. I have lost 7.4lba in less than 5 days
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Old 08-12-2012, 03:33 PM   #55
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Just measured and I have lost 2 inches in my hips and 1 inch in my waist
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Love to try it, but can't do coconut oil or coffee. What do you think I could substitute for those.
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Old 08-12-2012, 04:21 PM   #57
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Cathy, I don't know the exact details so check is out before you take my word for it but I would try macadamia nuts. They are suppose to be a good fat source
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Love to try it, but can't do coconut oil or coffee. What do you think I could substitute for those.
There was a recipe going around a while back on here for butter tea!
It wasn't bad. I think it was 1T butter and a pinch of salt in a cup of strong black tea. (will go search)
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here's one
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Oh that sounds good Dottie!
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