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Old 11-03-2013, 08:15 AM   #1501
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I have no choice but to stay LC and not give in to my cravings. That's the only way I can control my binges. Once I open the door to carbs there is no way of stopping me. Today I ate so much that I have no space in my tummy. For the first time I did not enjoy the carbs today. I was eating and eating with no reward.
Tomorrow back to LC with no excuses. I will shoot for DD tomorrow but if I can at least manage a clean UD I will go with it.
I can only eat carbs first half of the cycle and than go VLC till TOM.
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Thank you for reminding me yes Ptero was fantastic but I ran out when was overseas and couldn't find any. I stocked up when I returned but now I'm on WB and I'm just too skeered to play around with supplements. Ptero did give me AS and lots of energy. I also got saffron but that is supposed to effect serotonin which is why I don't want to take it whilst on WB. I also have Garcinia Cambogia it is I have everything. One thing I wanted to try was the gneynema silvestre (sorry too lazy to look up spelling and computer is volatile today). Have you tried that before your honey cravings? It's supposed to alter the taste of sugar.

Have you looked at EFT tapping techniques before the binge? I was looking at it yesterday and will try next time. No need to buy anything there are plenty of demonstrations if you search the Net.
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Old 11-03-2013, 02:08 PM   #1505
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Have you ever tried a fat fast? I am thinking about maybe trying a modified fat fast, people seem to say it really suppresses the appetite and squashes carb cravings.
Maybe you already eat enough fat?
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I am starting to believe that the whole serotonin connection to carbs is a total BS. Carbs actually make my PMS worst. I get moody, weepy and depressed after eating carbs. I am glad I am seeing this and hope I really get the carbs out of my mind. The good feeling from carbs only last for the first few bites and then I feel like a machine. Just eating because once I take that first bite I am hooked. It is a horrible feeling of being disconnected from your intelligent mind. Since the serotonin levels do supposedly drop in pre-menstrual women, why eating carbs actually makes me feel worst. I don't understand. I know that I am not the only women who is affected by PMS cravings.
My quest really has to shift to stopping myself from binging than working on losing weight. That's why came here in the first place. I was very strict at the beginning (when I started atkins) and I did not allow any carbs beyond induction allowed carbs for the first 3 months and you know what? I survived PMS, yes I did but only because I was strict and committed and that's what I need to do again. My weight will go down automatically once I get the binging under control. Guess what, I stepped on the scale and was up to 128. Today I ate over 4000 cal so I am sure tomorrow I will be up to 130. I know it is lots of water weight but what I am trying to say is how unhealthy is this!!! Not only pathetic but just plain unhealthy.
Enough writing and contemplating for today. I know what to do, just have to do it!!!!

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Old 11-03-2013, 02:28 PM   #1507
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Have you ever tried a fat fast? I am thinking about maybe trying a modified fat fast, people seem to say it really suppresses the appetite and squashes carb cravings.
Maybe you already eat enough fat?
Jeanie, I never really did the fast fat per se. I could probably do it tomorrow as I bought some mac nuts for my binge. Maybe I can do ghee (ala SLD) and some mac nuts
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Awww hun, I'm sorry things are so hard right now. Those hormones definitely wreak havoc on everything. I hate PMS time. {sigh} Usually the only way I can tell it's that TOM coming is the intense chocolate cravings. You make a good point on controlling carbs, though. I rarely had cravings when I was south beaching. Hang in there girl!!!!
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Jeanie, I never really did the fast fat per se. I could probably do it tomorrow as I bought some mac nuts for my binge. Maybe I can do ghee (ala SLD) and some mac nuts
Fat fast is probably too restrictive for me and may even cause a binge, but I think I am going to up the fats even more while keeping protein amounts moderate to low and see how it goes. Today I have an occasional thought here and there of wanting something carby, but knock on wood so far I have not had that pacing around like a crazy women feeling while trying to talk myself out of a carb fest.
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On the second thought I am not ready for it either. Doing fat fast with mac nuts would not be a good idea also.
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Old 11-03-2013, 11:46 PM   #1512
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Thank you for reminding me yes Ptero was fantastic but I ran out when was overseas and couldn't find any. I stocked up when I returned but now I'm on WB and I'm just too skeered to play around with supplements. Ptero did give me AS and lots of energy. I also got saffron but that is supposed to effect serotonin which is why I don't want to take it whilst on WB. I also have Garcinia Cambogia it is I have everything. One thing I wanted to try was the gneynema silvestre (sorry too lazy to look up spelling and computer is volatile today). Have you tried that before your honey cravings? It's supposed to alter the taste of sugar.

Have you looked at EFT tapping techniques before the binge? I was looking at it yesterday and will try next time. No need to buy anything there are plenty of demonstrations if you search the Net.
Mojo, it is funny how I always miss you posts. I go back to read my journal, here I see a post I have never seen, LOL.

So the Ptero helped you before. Something to consider in the future...

I never tried gneynema Silvestre. Of course I read about. The reason I never tried was that it is supposed to be good for diabetics. I know it is an herb and all but I am just scared to play with it.

Tried EFT and even bought a DVD and a book (I know you don't really need any material). Did not do anything for my cravings. I think it works better for emotional type of cravings. EFT works great for me when I travel. I used to be scared of flying and it worked like charm past few times. I did it on the way to the airport and than in the bathroom and "mentally" on the plane, so people don't think I was crazy. It worked great!
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:09 AM   #1513
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Talk about carb coma. That's what it feels like now. I was up most of the night but I have to get up now and get ready to tackle the week. I have no cravings this morning so I should be able to to have a proper DD. Whenever I have cravings early in the morning, it is the most difficult day to try to eat clean, forget about having DD.
So after 2 VERY UUAD days I am ready to get back on horse. What is done is done and I can't turn the time around. Something did go wrong on Saturday morning. I did have an argument with my sister prior to reaching for my first almond muffin. It did get me upset and it was a vulnerable time for me as I have been white knuckling cravings for whole week without once caving-in. So while it is hormonal I have seen that I can lose my strong will with emotional trigger as well. I did not think for a moment to let the cravings right off, it was a perfect opportunity for the brain to get its fix right then.
I am committing not to touch any of my triggers foods till TOM and just be true to LC and continue my JUDDD rotations. I am sure I have done some damage on the scale. I peaked yesterday morning and was up 5 lb and I am pretty sure I am even higher today, but I don't need to know exact number. When I feel like I got my mojo back, I will check the damage. I think I have done quite it bit of damage as I ate very caloric foods with lots of honey (think mac nuts and honey), a deadly combination. OK, I said I am not going to dwell over this. It is done now and I am moving forward.
TOM will be here this week and the whole hoopla will be a history.

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10/04: 135.0, BF 22.7---DD (390 cal/0 gr carbs)
10/05: 132.0, BF 22.1---UD (1723 cal/40 gr carbs) TOM Finally!
10/06: 131.4, BF 22.1---DD (520 cal/5 gr carbs) TOM
10/07: 129.4, BF 21.4---UD (1464 cal/37 gr carbs) TOM
10/08: 128.8, BF 21.5---DD (380 cal/32 gr carbs) TOM
10/09: 128.0, BF 21.4---UUAD
10/10: 130.2, BF 21.8---DD (444 cal/10 gr carbs)
10/11: 128.4, BF 21.3---UD (1460 cal/15 gr carbs)
10/12: 127.6, BF 21.2---DD (429 cal/9 gr carbs)
10/13: 127.4, BF 21.1---UD (1642 cal/31 gr carbs)
10/14: 127.2, BF 21.0---DD (420 cal/0 gr carbs)
10/15: 126.8, BF 20.9---UUAD
10/16: 129.6, BF 21.6---DD (467 cal/20 gr carbs)
10/17: 129.6, BF 21.4---UD (1346 cal/20 gr carbs)
10/18: 127.6, BF 21.2---DD (330 cal/13 gr carbs)
10/19: 127.6, BF 21.0---UD (1719 cal/40 gr carbs)
10/20: 127.8, BF 21.2---DD (407 cal/19 gr carbs)
10/21: 126.8, BF 21.1---UD (1756 cal/30 gr carbs)
10/22: 127.0, BF 20.8---DD (550 cal/5 gr carbs)
10/23: 125.8, BF 20.6---UUAD New Low!
10/24: 129.8, BF 21.5---UUAD
10/25: 130.0, BF 21.8---DD (550 cal/0 carbs)
10/26: 128.0, BF 21.3---UD (1650 cal/0 carbs)
10/27: 126.8, BF 21.2---DD (569 cal/0 carbs)
10/28: 126.4, BF 21.0---UD (1597 cal/0 carbs)
10/29: 125.2, BF 20.8---DD (610 cal/0 carbs)
10/30: 125.0, BF 20.6---UD (1850 cal/10 gr carbs)
10/31: 124.8, BF 20.3---DD (423 cal/0 gr carbs)

11/01: 124.4, BF 20.2---UD
11/02: 123.8, BF 20.2---Super high UUAD (PMS)
11/03: 128.8, BF 21.5---Super high UUAD (PMS)
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No problem.....you got this. Get right back on that horse, you know what works to drop those extra pounds of mostly water weight. Just try to be stronger and stronger next time those feelings come around. I know it's hard!!
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Thanks, girls! I know it is only 11 AM but I feel I can do this DD.
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Old 11-04-2013, 08:58 AM   #1518
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This is how I feel now. Seriously! I had another binge 15 min ago but I am TOTALLY fine with it. I am not going to beat up myself because I ate more food. I guess till TOM arrives it is not going to be easy to control this. I am only couple days till TOM and I know from my past experience that is not easy to stop the carb cravings now. So be it, it is only food and not the end of the world. I will do better next PMS.
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4th day in the row with carb binging. This has to be the worst binge ever!!!! I don't think I ever eaten more carbs than I am eating now. I am feeling horrible with bad headache, lethargic, can't sleep at night. I was even hungry last night, so I ate some HB eggs. Got up this morning and started binging since I woke up. Waiting for TOM and I am done with carbs once I get my period. Really am done with carbs! They absolutely make me sick and I can't have them in small quantity. As per my user name, I just have to-be-low-carber I don't care if I have to eat meat and eggs for the rest of my life, but I am not touching carbs anymore. Maybe once my hormones get straighten out I will touch carbs. For now I just despise carbs because they are controlling me and I hate this feeling. I am feeling like a carb addict. I am not kidding you. It has never been this bad
I am reading zero carb message board now and it seems like they are lots of people who eat this way and they feel great. There is a girl here on LCF, Suzanne (not sure of the correct name) who eats zero carbs and she used to have ED and ZC really helped her. I am going to go the same route once I can stop thinking of carbs, which I hope will happen soon, once TOM arrives. I am going to commit for 1 month (or till next TOM) to eat meat & eggs. Eventully I want to eat veggies too, but fruits, honey and other binging foods will never be in my diet again.

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Maybe try eating lots of fat and protein right now, eat so much that you couldn't possibly think of eating anything else? You're blood sugar is probably whacked out which is causing the continued hunger. I really feel that the reason my binge yesterday was blunted is because of the increased fat over the last several days.I am back on track easily today and usually the day after a binge is a real struggle with cravings. I took my oils, ate a fatty peice of beef and had a swiss cheese/cream cheese sandwich and feel great! I feel okay on low carb, but feel GREAT on meat and eggs and my mini binge yesterday really made me realize how good I feel eating that way and I immediately realized that I missed the meat/eggs that I couldn't eat because I felt too full and a bit sick from the carbs.
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Thanks, girls!

Jeanie- it is not so easy now but I am trying. I feel like I have eaten enough for the whole month. Seriously, I feel like a bear eating before he goes into hibernation. I was trying to fit in my SLD ghee, was not able to find a window. It is been more than 1 hr since I ate, so it is good time to take it now.

I feel like after this binging marathon I can't look at another carb without feeling sick I am ready for meat & eggs after this drama comes to an end.
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What is done is done but now is the time to move on. Took my ghee, cleaned up the house and got myself motivated to get going. Feeling sorry for myself is not going to get me anywhere.
I am going to eat clean right away, right at this moment (well, not quite-I am surprisingly full). I am not going to wait for TOM or wait for tomorrow, or next week, etc. I am going VLC right away. For the next few days I am not going to count calories, just eat very clean and do SLD every day. I know that JUDDD will come naturally to me again once I get myself into ketosis. For now I have to get myself out of this hell.
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Marika stop eating for now ...just stop..you are the boss not your hormones, you are in charge of your body, yiou are not a prisoner of your body. Distract yourself with EFT tapping. It is important to get out of the house if you can. Put some sports shoes on, get in a baggy shirt and go for a walk or a cycle or whatever exercise, not a tape, just out in the air, breathe, feel alive, get away from the food, clear your head, meditate. I know it's hard but this is the best thing to do for now. If you can't do that have a shower and then turn the water to cold at the end to give your body a different kind of stress and distraction.
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Thanks Mojo! I am leaving for a brisk walk right now.

I think this binge was the worst ever!!!
I believe the only way to stop this from happening again is to abstain from my triggers foods. No other way. Can't have them in normal quantities anymore.
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I am feeling so much better. I think the walk helped a bit and I think the SLD is working. Maybe coincidence maybe not . I have zero cravings.
I am itching already to have DD tomorrow. I guess that's good sign because for the past 4 days I did not think it was possible. I will try it. I can always make it an UD. As long as I stick to meat and eggs I think I will get this under control. Since I will be doing VLC I can afford to eat slightly higher calories, to also accommodate the ghee. I think on DD I can't do more than 1 tbl of ghee though.

I have feeling that I will be at least 135 on the scale tomorrow (including all the water weight). I have calculated that if I ate about 4000-5000 cal for the past 4 days that is an excess of 10,000-12,000 cal which means at least 4 lb fat gain, it must be more because the carbs were very high. But I need face the truth and I know the weight will drop down again.

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Isn't it funny how that carb switch just seems to turn on/off so suddenly? VLC works well and you'll be feeling great in no time, it works so well you probably don't even need to plan an intentional DD.
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