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Old 06-01-2012, 10:05 AM   #91
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Hey, don't forget that you retain water when starting a workout program. Especially if you feel muscle soreness, that literally means you're inflamed due to micro tears in your muscles and so you're going to have an immune response which includes water.

I'm at 150.8 today. Not bad considering all the eating out we've been doing. Everyone is out of school now and I'm all finished with grades, etc. So, I'm going to formulate a fitness program here soon.
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:06 PM   #92
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Did my workout! Warmed up on the treadmill for 15 mins with barefoot walking and two short sprints. Then..

Quads: Leg extensions
Hamstrings: Leg curls
Calves: Deadlifted the barbell at 111 and 121 to do 2 sets of 20 calf raises
Abs: Side crunches

Then a few stretches and a PWO meal with greens, 2 HB eggs, bacon, sunflower seeds, 2 tomato slices, olive oil, avocado and fresh mozz.

Feeling pretty good today! I have shaken off a lot of the stress of the school year. Took about 3 weeks.
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:11 PM   #93
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Hey, don't forget that you retain water when starting a workout program. Especially if you feel muscle soreness, that literally means you're inflamed due to micro tears in your muscles and so you're going to have an immune response which includes water.

I'm at 150.8 today. Not bad considering all the eating out we've been doing. Everyone is out of school now and I'm all finished with grades, etc. So, I'm going to formulate a fitness program here soon.
You're finished!! What a feeeeeeling!

I do feel sore and probably am retaining some water from that! Restarting squats hurts like a mofo! I had that "hurts to sit down" feeling. I'm sure you are familiar with it, with your squat challenge!

Hurts in the good way though!
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:43 PM   #94
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Hahaha... Did 50 squats the very first time and that was a really STUPID thing to do fo sho! I don't get sore anymore.
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Checking in.. I just did a night-time weightlifting session. In fact I did a bunch of heavy duty yardwork today too, so my arms will be sore tomorrow.

I went off plan last night and did not weigh today. I will give it another day or two and then weigh in. I will report here if it is anything interesting. (And I would consider anything under 150 or over 154 "interesting".)
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:23 AM   #97
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Hiya Speck!

I wish I was coming in to report that I magically lost 10 pounds somehow! But sadly, my actual weight is 153.5.


Here are my thoughts on that.

1. I wish it were lower.

2. I went off plan and had bread, pasta and dessert on Sunday (five days ago). Then I got back on plan after that. "Getting back on plan" means I have eaten low carb foods that I consider legal.

3. I stuck with my 3-days-a-week heavy weightlifting plan. I am doing sprints at 8.0 on the treadmill to warm up. Both of these things are feeling great.

4. Something is causing me to not lose weight even when I think I am doing the right things. It is up to me to figure out what that is.

5. I was at a three day work training this week and there was food everywhere. Candy, pastries, chips, catered lunch, etc. I did not eat a single bite of the provided food. I brought my low carb lunch and just ate that. I didn't snack the rest of the day, even though many of the other attendees were snacking on candy and such around me. In truth, this was not hard because I was focused on the material of the training. I wasn't wrestling with myself to not eat a pastry - I actually didn't care about them and they were easy to ignore. BUT, now that the training is over and I have weighed myself, I feel a little mad that my weight is still up. I'm thinking "It's not fair; I was 'good' for the whole training. I stuck with my food and exercise plan. I said no to food so many times," etc. This road of thinking will lead nowhere, I know. It isn't fair -- BUT I can't get stuck on that thought because it is a dead-end road.

No, it is not fair. Get over it.

So, my goal is still that I want to lose weight and be in the 130s.


What are my options? What can I do about it?

1. Investigate thyroid/hormones with a doctor.

2. Continue weightlifting, sprinting and low carbing and see if what's going on is temporary and I will eventually start to lose.

3. Try JUDDDD.

4. Count calories - it works, even if it is unpleasant.

5. Make a stricter plan like no wine and no off-plan nights for the rest of the summer. This, too, may be more unpleasant than I would like but it could be the thing. In fact, maybe my silent audience is thinking "Duh, Elizabeth, you cannot have pasta on Sunday and think that you are on a low carb diet and that you are going to lose weight." IN FACT, maybe I am totally delusional in this area! Maybe I WANT to be able to go off plan now and then, but that will derail me forever. And I haven't mentally become OK with this yet so I am glossing over it. Oooo, that's a good one. I want to be someone who can jump off plan and jump back on with no blip in weight BUT I AM NOT THAT PERSON! EVEN THOUGH I REALLY REALLY WANT TO BE! Wishing does not make it true. Maybe other people can do that, but not me. Boo hoo for me, but this is my reality!

6. Try "no dairy".

7. Hire a personal trainer.

8. Join the gym sooner rather than later so I have access to many different types of exercise.

9. Hire a nutrition coach.

10. Join Weight Watchers (I have never tried this).

11. Join TOPS or OA.

12. Do a by-the-book Atkins Induction.

13. Do a by-the-book Atkins fat fast.

14. Figure out if there are foods that I currently consider "legal" that are actually causing me trouble. In other words, start over with the Atkins carb ladder and test foods out one-by-one, week-by-week and see if they are problems.

15. Let go of the idea that simply low carbing works for me. This is how I lost my first 65 pounds, but it is no longer working. I probably have developed some bad habits that I am rationalizing away (like wine) but that actually are preventing me from losing weight.

16. Meditate more on the dischord between these two opposing ideas: my desire to have an easy-breezy "fun" summer and my desire to lose weight. I want both of these things. They may not both be possible. I may have to choose which one is more important to me.

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Heavy stuff for a Friday! But good stuff to think about. I hope.

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Old 06-08-2012, 10:00 AM   #98
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I'm there with you for sure. I have a date in which my easy breezy summer is over and the hardcore buckle down begins, and that date is June 20. By then, all of my events will be over and I don't have to negotiate rough waters. Maybe you can have both, too, just set a date.
I think it's a good idea to explore this with your doctor if you can. I have a managed care system that will not do more than the basic tests and won't pay for a specialist unless the basic tests come back bad, so unless I want to pay out of pocket, I'm on my own here.
You did really well avoiding the crap at your training. You should be proud of yourself. I also understand the "it's not fair" pity-party. No, it's not, but like you said, so what? Whining about it doesn't change a thing (I'm talking to myself here really).
I truly think that one carby item or meal just isn't a problem. I lost weight having occasional off-plan food. I give the human body more credit in its ability to deal with a single meal. The problems come for folks that cannot get back on plan the next meal or the next day or whatever. But this much you do know, when you get to maintenance, you WILL be able to do this and maintain just fine!
I am leaning more and more towards a "clean" Atkins re-induction for the same reasons you list. Something very basic and very simple.
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Two more thoughts -

I am a person who wants a gold star for following the rules, doing things right, etc. I want, like, a hundred gold stars for saying no to all the food at the training. I think I want that to somehow make up for the fact that I went off plan Sunday.

Being around other people all day, I got to see how they ate and was reminded that there are people who can eat 3 pastries, 10 pieces of chocolate, 2 sandwiches, chips, a cookie, regular pop, etc etc etc and not gain weight. They have a different physiology than me and that's just how it is.

Something in my brain goes "but I was so much healthier than that." I want my gold star for eating fresh, whole foods like vegetables, greens, butter, yogurt, cheese, plain iced tea, fresh coconut, hard boiled eggs, etc.

It is just not a competition in any way. When it comes to me losing weight, it literally does not matter what someone else can eat.

AND - if I go off plan, that is going to have a weight gain effect on me.

What I WANT is to be able to point at my gold stars and say, "See? I deserve to lose weight."

But the REALITY is that that's not how it works!

I will not lose weight by holding on to delusions or false hopes.
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I'm there with you for sure. I have a date in which my easy breezy summer is over and the hardcore buckle down begins, and that date is June 20. By then, all of my events will be over and I don't have to negotiate rough waters. Maybe you can have both, too, just set a date.
I think it's a good idea to explore this with your doctor if you can. I have a managed care system that will not do more than the basic tests and won't pay for a specialist unless the basic tests come back bad, so unless I want to pay out of pocket, I'm on my own here.
You did really well avoiding the crap at your training. You should be proud of yourself. I also understand the "it's not fair" pity-party. No, it's not, but like you said, so what? Whining about it doesn't change a thing (I'm talking to myself here really).
I truly think that one carby item or meal just isn't a problem. I lost weight having occasional off-plan food. I give the human body more credit in its ability to deal with a single meal. The problems come for folks that cannot get back on plan the next meal or the next day or whatever. But this much you do know, when you get to maintenance, you WILL be able to do this and maintain just fine!
I am leaning more and more towards a "clean" Atkins re-induction for the same reasons you list. Something very basic and very simple.

Speck, you are such a wise voice! I appreciate your thoughts so much.

This is good perspective about what it will take to maintain. It makes the picture of maintenance more clear, so I will not be lost if/when I ever get to declaring myself a maintainer (instead of hoping I will lose more weight).

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Old 06-08-2012, 10:10 AM   #101
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You're doing some tough love on yourself today.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:00 PM   #102
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Did my sprints and weightlifting.

Dinner was spinach, tomato, red pepper, garlic, 1 serving pepperoni, 2oz cheese and pizza blend spices all cooked in a skillet.

I spent the afternoon journaling and getting housework done. I also read a chapter from "Refuse to Regain", which is a great book about weight maintenance after losing.

Upon further meditation, I realize that it should have been obvious that eating an off-plan meal can have long-lasting consequences. It's like I am a newbie freaking out in the main lobby.

I also realized that keeping a journal here and being honest in it is semi-embarrassing. Useful, but embarrassing because I am laying my personal b.s. out for all to see. Wheee! In the end, I want to be honest because (1) it helps me see my bad habits, and (2) check it out, I am revealing my true self, flaws and all, and the world is not ending.

Good day of self-reflection. And tough love! (tough love)

Onward and hopefully downward!

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Old 06-10-2012, 07:55 AM   #103
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Still 153.5.. this must be a new fad for myself.

Yesterday I had...

2c coffee with half and half,
about 6 pieces of bacon at 11am
an iced tea with half and half
A hearty salad at 6pm (greens, cucumber, avocado, 2 HB eggs, fresh mozz, SF seeds)
(Went to an outdoor art event at 9pm)
A cut up bell pepper at 10p
Left the event at 2am and had 1oz swiss cheese in the car

Measured everything with my food scale to be sure to have a serving at a time (and not be just glugging half and half into my coffee with no regard for portions).

And I passed up all alcoholic drinks at the art event. Yes, I self-selected to not have a wine night in the interest of my weight! Instead I focused on the fact that it was a gorgeous summer night and I was walking around the city late at night with friends (and several thousand other people) checking out cool art installations.

I also passed up all treats/food at the event. There were a bunch of food trucks and such. I brought my bell pepper and swiss cheese and just had those. That part of it was easy though, because the event was so cool. I didn't really care about the food.

It felt like a good, healthy day overall. Good food (but not too much), lots of walking and a super fun, positive event.

I'm wondering now if one of the reasons that I got down to 148.5 and then have bounced back up to where I was is because of exercise. (With the other reasons being the fact that I stopped the Leptin Reset and calorie counting and that I have had some off-plan meals.)

Mid-March: stopped exercising - average weight 153-155
Mid-April: started Leptin Reset with calorie counting
Mid-May: got down to 148.5. stopped Leptin Reset, stopped counting calories
End of May: started exercising again
Mid-June: weight back up to 153

Hmmm, it seems like I should be more inspired to stay on the Leptin Reset! My weight was going down! I may be crazy to have gone off it! But, at the moment, I still do not have that inspiration to eat a ton of protein right when I get up. I'm still thinking this would work better during the school year.

Another pattern about myself I just realized in typing this is that when I feel I have done something "right", it's hard to hear suggestions on how I could have done it differently. This goes with what I wrote the other day about how my instinct is to hold on to wishful thinking. When I look at my food from yesterday, here is an imagined script:

Me: I stayed fully low carb all day. And I didn't eat that much. But I didn't lose weight.
Imaginary Person: You could try giving up dairy.
Me: But don't you see? I have already given up so much! My food was totally low carb! I shouldn't have to change anything else. I know what I'm doing. I've lost 65 pounds.

Uh-huh! Defensiveness! Pouting! This seems like my inner child doing a little foot-stomping. Obviously, this is not a helpful reaction! This is definitely an area where I can work on stopping my usual script.

These are my thoughts for the morning! Supposed to be another gorgeous day today - June is one of the reasons that Minnesotans haven't all fled the state. My plan is to eat low carb, maybe go for a walk, do some housework, and try to hang out with friends later. Looking forward to it.
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Sounds like you had a fantastic night, and what a success you had!

I think a lot of us do that when we stall. I've been bad, bad, bad lately. Giving in to the temptation of my events, rationalizing my poor choices. Watching my weight slowly climb. And yet, somehow, not correcting. I'm confused at myself right now.
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Aw Speck! Hang in there. It is so demoralizing when weight loss isn't working. I was thinking of your experiment where you ate something like 1000 cals and 10g carbs for awhile and didn't lose weight (and pardon me if those numbers are off - but it was something staggeringly low if I'm remembering correctly). Eeeek! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills if that kind of thing can happen in the world! But I'm thinking there is a chemical reason for it.

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Old 06-13-2012, 08:43 AM   #106
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Came in to report that I am fighting head hunger at this very moment! I have had plenty of calories this morning and am having the eat eat eat urge. Wow, do I ever hate it.

My short term action plan is:
Finish my coffee
Take L-glutamine
Drink a glass of water
Journal
Meditation/stomach check-in
Make the bed
Make a healthy food plan for today full of delicious whole lowcarb foods. Maybe plan calories and aim for around 1700 cals of nutrition (not junk)
Go for a short walk
Forgive self and work towards being calm/centered

Later in the day:
supplements
sprint intervals
weight lifting
more journaling
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Hi Elizabeth, yes I did that last summer for a week or ten days and nada. Pretty much set me up for not giving a rat's most of the year. Kind of where I am now... lol. No, I've got a plan. I've turned my current situation into a strategy. We'll see if it works.
I didn't used to understand what people meant by "head hunger", you explained it well. I only seem to get this way when I'm eating carbs or sometimes around TOM. You'll be alright. You're strong.
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I did get through that day.. it wasn't fun, because my thoughts kept turning to food. But I did all my other little tasks and eventually it stopped. I ended up taking a nap that day and that really helped.

Haven't gone off plan since two Sundays ago. My weight is 153, so it's looking like I gained a few.. I had been averaging 151 or so before my off-plan venture. Boo hoo, but it's my own fault.

Well, today is a new day and my goal is a high fat, low carb day. I'm going to see Men In Black 3 with some friends at noon and am bringing macadamias and sparkling water. For later in the day I have leftover chicken tikka masala that I made yesterday in the crock pot.

Tonight is a weightlifting night. So that is my Friday night fun.

On Sunday we are having a combination Father's day (for my dad and my brother in law) and birthday (for my husband) party. It will be brunch at my mom's but my mom is kind of the best about understanding low carb so I know it will be fun and easy. Actually my whole nuclear family is positive and supportive about LC. No veiled insults, no food pushing, no weird comments, no assumptions.. they just provide an LC option and let it be. I should remember to thank them.. I know not everyone's family is like this.
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153... still. Maintaining like a champ.

I haven't gone off LC since June 3.

Working on the high fat, low carb, adequate protein thing for the past three days. This has given me a headache but other than that, feeling pretty good.

Still on my exercise schedule of three days a week of weightlifting with sprints to warm up. I deadlifted 131 and set a new deadlift goal to work towards: lifting more than my body weight.

I got a city pool pass and a swimsuit and am going to attempt some lap swimming this week or next week.

Swimsuit story: in 2007, I swam regularly at the YMCA for a few months. I weighed over 200 pounds. I bought 2 swimsuits at the time with the logic that I would use one until it got too beat up by the chlorine, and then have the other one ready to go. Then, I stopped swimming. A year later, I started low carbing and lost 65 pounds. The next time I found that second swimsuit (2010), it was hilariously large.

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My folks have been visiting for the last several days, today is my son's birthday and marks the end of the crazy event filled portion of my summer, so I'm ready to buckle down again.I'm going to be giving the high-fat thing a try, too. I'm thinking I'll start on Wednesday.
Being strong is awesome and just about my sole motivation for exercise. I did a TV workout show last week and was sore for 4 fricken days! And I thought all these squats, pushups, and planks I'd been doing were working!
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Woo hoo for high fat! And what was the workout show? I used to do some of those back when we had Tivo and cable.

Here's what I ate today.

B: Coffee with half and half + coconut oil
L: Romaine lettuce rollups with deli turkey, cheese and mayo. Pecans. Omega 3 supplements.
D: Salad with greens, fresh mozzarella, 6 cherry tomatoes, almonds, 2 tablespoons olive oil, salt. Tea with magnesium.

Cals 1570
Fat 148 g
Carbs 31 g
Fiber 11 g
Protein 38 g

Macronutrient percentages:
82.84% fat
9.45% protein
7.71% carbs

My headache is now gone. I did get super nauseous in the middle of the day. That was not fun! But it passed in about an hour. I think it was from the coconut oil.

I do hope this whole high fat thing works! I'm trying to stay reasonable about it.

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Woo hoo! Way to go on the fat! (never thought I'd say that to someone ) I need to ease into the coconut oil. I can get violently ill from too much too fast.

I like the fit tv (now Discovery Health) Gilad shows... the ones called Total Body Sculpt. Great mix of light cardio, strength movements and light weights. And quick at about 22 minutes buzzing through the commercials.
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Here is my High Fat Report! The whole truth and nothing but the truth.

I ended up eating more yesterday, to the tune of about 500 calories. It was 5 olives, 1oz macadamia nuts and 1 serving coconut butter. All high fat, but ultimately brought me up to about 2000 cals total for the day.

So, overall, I did not lose any weight and am hanging out at 153.5.

This morning I re-read the section on the Fat Fast from DANDR 2002. I did not start out my higher fat attempts with this specific Fat Fast in mind, so I am not at all following Dr Atkins' rules. His guidelines are 4-5 days of 1000 cals, 5 mini-meals of 200 cals each, and 90% of calories from fat. This is not out of the question for the future, but not what I am attempting at the moment.

I am attempting to eat to satisfaction with around 80% calories from fat. I will give this a few more days and see how I am feeling (and if I have lost any weight). Then recalibrate.

I realized this morning that when I go more "extreme" with the weight loss attempts (and 80% fat is extreme for me), I want to remain mentally able to pull back to a more moderate approach without feeling so stressed/frustrated that I give up. When a more extreme approach doesn't work, that is a moment when I can get frustrated and want to throw in the towel. It's better for me in the long run to love/forgive myself, stay low carb, keep exercising and formulate a new plan with self-love and positive energy.

Very touchy feely stuff here.. but that is where my thoughts were this morning.

I am at the beginning of TOM too, so I am more prone to mood swings. What a joy!

So far today I have had 3 cups of coffee with 2oz half and half in each, and 1.5 oz raw pecans.

Stats for this breakfast:

Cals 533
Fat 51 g
Carbs 14 g
Fiber 5 g
Protein 10 g

82.7% fat
10.09% carbs
7.21% protein

I don't have the rest of my food planned yet but I will probably have a salad at some point. Possibly a vegetable cooked in fat. I may make cauliflower tikka masala (cauliflower, coconut milk, tomatoes, onion, garlic, ginger, curry powder... most of the calories come from the fat in the coconut milk). Or pumpkin curry soup (very similiar - pumpkin, coconut milk, onion, garlic, ginger, curry powder).

As for exercise, I am planning on an easy walk with a friend in the middle of the day. Then sprints and lower body weights tonight. I realize that my current eating plan does not mesh with a traditional weightlifting meal plan. But, going to keep trying it anyways! All in the name of n=1.

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Update time! Some good stuff to report, some neutral, and some not so great.

I weighed/logged all my food 6 days in a row. I was between 70-80% fat, 1600-1800 cals every day. Did all my planned sprint intervals and weightlifting, plus a few walks.

Sunday I had exactly the kind of day I was aiming for: 1691 cals, 76% from fat. And then I was up two pounds on Monday, which was probably due to TOM water. But I was feeling pretty sad/broken down about it. A little boo-hooing may have occurred.

Today I was back down those two pounds. BUT I have not yet had a net loss from trying higher fat. 153 today. So, not quitting higher fat/adequate protein just yet, but as you can imagine, I sure do wish that were lower.

One very nice thing though was that I went to a low-carb meetup this morning with some super nice ladies from this board and another board! Wow, it was great to hang out and instantly be able to talk the same "low carb" language. We're going to do it again next month.
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:52 PM   #115
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How fun to have a meet-up! I hate the water gain from TOM, it can take the better part of a week for it to normalize for me. I know better than to judge the adequacy of any new tweak that week of the month. Phooey on TOM!
If the ~75% fat doesn't seem to be doing the trick, go for 85%, that's what Jimmy Moore is doing and what I'm aiming for. Well, not the last few days with this stupid cold, but in general. It's harder to do than I though it would be because so many fats are carried by proteins (cheeses, nuts and nut-butters, fatty meats and so on).
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It's Saturday! I got completely ill on Wednesday and have been sitting as still as possible. Speck, maybe I got your cold somehow!

Trying to get back in the game but it is slow going. Didn't lift weights at all - in fact I have skipped all exercise. Today was the first day I had any energy/motivation to do things around the house.

My goal is to resume weights/sprints on Monday. And, when I made my summer exercise plan, for July I have 3x sprints/weights and 2x of easy running per week. So that will start up too, assuming I am not still ill. I think it will be OK because I feel semi decent today.

Getting sick sucks!

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Elizabeth, yes, sounds like you got my cold. lol Going on day 9 for me, but it's just mild residual symptom stuff, and I feel ok otherwise. But my eating and exercising goals were decimated. Need to get back to it and remember to take my daily doses of vit D and zinc. It's like freakin' clockwork. I stop taking them, and a week or two later, I get a cold!
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Hey Elizabeth! It's been like two weeks since you posted. How are you doing? It took me forever to get over my cold and I'm still not quite back on track. My eating is less than stellar and my exercising is almost non-existent. Hoping you are well.
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Hi Speck!

I decided to take a break from all the internet sites where I spend the most time. So I was off LCF, google reader, FB, twitter, all that. I will probably take another one because I ended up with a lot of free time!

I've been training a ton - interval sprints, 1 and 2 mile runs, rollerblading and weightlifting. Feels great! I've also been getting good sleep and waking up feeling energized.

Have not lost any weight though! I've kind of accepted this for now. I will probably make another strong effort this fall. For now I want to enjoy the rest of summer, keep working on my training and walk into school this fall feeling refreshed, strong and energized!
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That's awesome Elizabeth! We spent the weekend camping someplace I got no cell reception. At first I was anxious, but then I realized how un-stressed I was! Thanks for checking in, enjoy the rest of summer and pop in once in a while to say "hi"!
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