METQA'S P4 JUDDD JOURNAL

[metqa]

Originally Posted by green team

I have a theory on that (I have a theory on everything, unfortunately). I think the weight loss that takes place during sleep is from the calories used restoring the body. In my experience, that restoration takes place even if we can't sleep--what doesn't get restored so much is the conscious brain, but most of the work goes on getting done.



I don't know what this refers to, but in the circumstances I advise you to steer clear of inflatable castles and white-water rafting.

Hmm, That makes sense, though I've had the experience,and heard of it with others that on nights they don't get enough sleep, losses suffer. But it could just be people munching past bedtime as well. I know my brain is not restored at all.

I love Inflatable castles, got a concussion on one a couple of years ago but all I have is my mini trampoline. Vibration therapy, I could use some. That's me on my rebounder, but without the wavy arms as I might hurt myself more what with the ceiling fan being up there...

[SoHappy]

Um hm... Um hm... I think I'm getting it now. A Reeses Cup for breakfast results in a nice weight loss being seen the very next morning. What a fun plan!

[SoHappy]

I just want to add that it's sort of comforting to me to know that I'm not the only diet heretic here at LCF.

[metqa]

Originally Posted by SoHappy

Um hm... Um hm... I think I'm getting it now. A Reeses Cup for breakfast results in a nice weight loss being seen the very next morning. What a fun plan!

Not taking a chance with that again though. I didn't eat ANY Halloween candy and they were on sale so I had to get some. I've put them away for Up Day Treats Too expensive at 87calories a cup!

Totally Heretical Here!!

I had a Fat Free Blackberry Kefir Smoothie for breakfast ( forgot to add my MCT oil though )

Gonna have an Italian Meatball Sandwich for lunch on an 80 calorie hotdog bun. I got the idea from an HCG friend and promised to torture her with details and a picture.

[metqa]

Rogue P2 Italian Meatball Sandwich


Rogue Because:
Fat Free Dairy, and regular dairy
100 Calorie Grain allowance
Mixing Veggies
Mixing Meats - Beef and Egg white


1lb meat
2eggwhites
1/4 cup Parmesan Cheese
1tsp each onion, garlic powder, salt, Italian Seasoning
1/2t pepper


I used Linda Sue's Recipe for Meatballs by half with no sausage and Walmart 96% Lean ground beef. I subbed two egg whites for one egg, used regular Parmesan cheese, cause diet parm has more calories, and added Italian herbs. I used a pound of meat, divided it into quarter portions, and divided each of those into 6 meatball portions. Baked 375 15 min, rinsed off residue.


3 meat balls
25g bell pepper
10 grams thinly sliced onion
36g sliced mushroom
1/4c ( 64g) Pizza Sauce
1/4c (28g) Fat Free Mozzarella cheese
1 Healthy Life Hot Dog Bun


To make the sandwich I used one Healthy Life Brand Hot Dog Buns, they are 80 calories, no corn syrup and high fiber, 5g. Put in the oven to warm and toast. Put 3 meatballs in 1/4 cup of Pizza Sauce in the nuker to get hot for a minute. In a non stick pan, sautee the onions, pepper and mushrooms till soft. Remove the toasted bun, line the bun with a little bit of cheese,the cooked veggies place the 3 meatballs into it, top with Hot Pizza Sauce and sprinkle the rest of the Fat Free Mozzerella onto the hot sauce.

The other three meatballs I will eat the same way in a bowl, not a bun, cause the bun is expensive.

Actually 1 serving of 1/4c Pizza Sauce was too much for one sandwich, so I just saved the rest of it in the heating cup to dip the bread butt ends of the sandwich in.

The nutrients will vary with Pizza Sauces, and amount of vegetables used

221Kcal
4.5g Fat
28.4g Carb
6.68g Fbr
20.7g Fiber

[metqa]

Okay, I know why I'm sore and headachy and stuff, cause I'm sick. I started feeling it in my mouth and throat this afternoon and in my chest this evening. I have this sense of pressure behind my teeth, behind my eardrums and in my head and my tinnitus is roaring. Yeah. I know I'm getting sick when my whole row of teeth ache along my jaw and along the top.

Tomorrow is a Down Day, I'm gonna try not to have a pity party. If I want more calories I'll have them, I'm making tomorrows menu a High Lysine menu. Cauliflower, Beef, Pumpkin, Chicken broth, maybe yogurt or kefir,... ugh... would also explain why I keep getting hot flashes and partly why I had trouble sleeping yesterday, in addition to the shoulder/neck/jaw pain. guh....

[green team]

Originally Posted by metqa

Okay, I know why I'm sore and headachy and stuff, cause I'm sick. I started feeling it in my mouth and throat this afternoon and in my chest this evening. I have this sense of pressure behind my teeth, behind my eardrums and in my head and my tinnitus is roaring. Yeah. I know I'm getting sick when my whole row of teeth ache along my jaw and along the top.

Tomorrow is a Down Day, I'm gonna try not to have a pity party. If I want more calories I'll have them, I'm making tomorrows menu a High Lysine menu. Cauliflower, Beef, Pumpkin, Chicken broth, maybe yogurt or kefir,... ugh... would also explain why I keep getting hot flashes and partly why I had trouble sleeping yesterday, in addition to the shoulder/neck/jaw pain. guh....

I hope it doesn't hit you too bad. I'm just coming out of a bout of illness--still got the horrible cough--and it really sucked. The only thing I'll say is that it never put me in bed, and I think I may have low-carb to thank for that. Usually I'm flattened for at least three days. You may lose some weight through lack of appetite, but, of course, that's a pyrrhic victory.

[metqa]

Yeah, I didn't realize till evening why I was feeling so bad. Being in bed though is more uncomfortable than being up and about. Whatever, I'll cope.

I got a goose egg. I did lose .88 yesterday instead of .44, so I'm still on track.


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Round 3 of "2011"/PHASE 2 SUMMARY
Total Loss from~59.6K (131.12lb):1.76 Pounds
Inches:0.0

Date ___ Day _ Morning Weight _ +/- ____ Round Total ___ Comments
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10.30.11.. 00.......131.12........+0.00.........-0.00.........Took First Dose in the evening when I decided
10.31.11.. 00.......134.20........+3.08.........+3.08........ .Forgot to take dose Ate junk food, and meat
11.01.11.. 01.......132.00........-2.20.........+0.88.........First VLCD Took next Dose first thing in morning
11.02.11.. 02.......130.68........-1.32.........-0.44.........Tried High Fat Day with MCT oil
11.03.11.. 03.......130.24........-0.44.........-0.88.........Reese's cup for Breakfast, Not a good idea. Yummy, though.
11.04.11.. 04.......129.36........-0.88.........-1.76.........Up Day, Max Calories, getting sick, sore and stiff
11.05.11.. 0.......129.36........-0.00.........-1.76.........
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Blackberry Kefir
Italian Meatball Sandwich, with MCT oil
Italian Meatball Bowl, with MCT oil
Black Bean Brownie
Bacon

Kcal 1399
Fat 98.2g, 60% , MCT Oil 37% of Kcal
Carb 73.3g, 20%, MCT Oil 59% of Fat
Fbr 17.9g
Pro 72.5g, 20%

My Calories are really high but 522 of those calories are MCT oil.

[Beeb]

Originally Posted by metqa

Hey Beeb!! Well, Get your Popcorn and take your seat, cause
I'm STILL JUDDDing. I'm JUDDDing with HCG!

I've had a VLC Day, and yesterday was a High Calorie EFGT Day,and Today was another VLC Day. So I'm Doing an HCG EFGT JUDDD round!

First DD I lost the load weight plus 0.44lb. After the UD, I lost another 0.44lb. I'm looking forward to tomorrow, cause if that's another 0.44 then I'll be out of the 130's.

My Low Days are about 400-600 and my high day was about 900, tomorrows high day will be over 1000 because I'll be using MCT oil from now on.

How 'bought that?

Look at you go!!!

[metqa]

Round 3 of "2011"/PHASE 2 SUMMARY
Total Loss from~59.6K (131.12lb):1.32 Pounds
Inches:0.0

Date ___ Day _ Morning Weight _ +/- ____ Round Total ___ Comments
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10.30.11.. 00.......131.12........+0.00.........-0.00.........Took First Dose in the evening when I decided
10.31.11.. 00.......134.20........+3.08.........+3.08........ .Forgot to take dose Ate junk food, and meat
11.01.11.. 01.......132.00........-2.20.........+0.88.........First VLCD Took next Dose first thing in morning
11.02.11.. 02.......130.68........-1.32.........-0.44.........Tried a High Fat Day with MCT Oil
11.03.11.. 03.......130.24........-0.44.........-0.88.........Reese's cup for Breakfast, Not a good idea. Yummy, though.
11.04.11.. 04.......129.36........-0.88.........-1.76.........Max Cal , 522Kcal = MCT Oil
11.05.11.. 05.......129.36........-0.00.........-1.76........ cauliflower soup all day, mouth hurts..feel dehydrated
11.06.11.. 06.......129.80........+0.44.........-1.32........ .


Cauliflower Soup with mushrooms and 1T coconut oil ( 400g cauliflower, 2 cans chicken broth, 1 cube bouillon, 3 oz mushrooms)
1/2 Apple
1/2 cup FF cheddar
1 cup FF Kefir

572 Kcal
Fat 16.3g, 25%
Carb 72g, 47%
Fbr 19.1g
Pro 42.2g, 27%

Still don't feel good...

ETA: Don't feel like cooking or eating anything today.

[metqa]

I haven't been drinking my kefir, and it's been building up, so I think I'm gonna have a Kefir day.

[metqa]

Round 3 of "2011"/PHASE 2 SUMMARY
Total Loss from~59.6K (131.12lb):2.64 Pounds
Inches:0.0

Date ___ Day _ Morning Weight _ +/- ____ Round Total ___ Comments
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10.30.11.. 00.......131.12........+0.00.........-0.00.........Took First Dose in the evening when I decided
10.31.11.. 00.......134.20........+3.08.........+3.08........ .Forgot to take dose Ate junk food, and meat
11.01.11.. 01.......132.00........-2.20.........+0.88.........First VLCD Took next Dose first thing in morning
11.02.11.. 02.......130.68........-1.32.........-0.44.........Tried a High Fat Day with MCT Oil
11.03.11.. 03.......130.24........-0.44.........-0.88.........Reese's cup for Breakfast, Not a good idea. Yummy, though.
11.04.11.. 04.......129.36........-0.88.........-1.76.........Max Cal , 522Kcal = MCT Oil
11.05.11.. 05.......129.36........-0.00.........-1.76........ cauliflower soup all day, mouth hurts..feel dehydrated
11.06.11.. 06.......129.80........+0.44.........-1.32........ Fasted most of the day, then drank water and kefir, and had half an apple
11.07.11.. 07.......128.48........-1.32.........-2.64........ .

[metqa]

Round 3 of "2011"/PHASE 2 SUMMARY
Total Loss from~59.6K (131.12lb):2.64 Pounds
Inches:0.0

Date ___ Day _ Morning Weight _ +/- ____ Round Total ___ Comments
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
10.30.11.. 00.......131.12........+0.00.........-0.00.........Took First Dose in the evening when I decided
10.31.11.. 00.......134.20........+3.08.........+3.08........ .Forgot to take dose Ate junk food, and meat
11.01.11.. 01.......132.00........-2.20.........+0.88.........First VLCD Took next Dose first thing in morning
11.02.11.. 02.......130.68........-1.32.........-0.44.........Tried a High Fat Day with MCT Oil
11.03.11.. 03.......130.24........-0.44.........-0.88.........Reese's cup for Breakfast, Not a good idea. Yummy, though.
11.04.11.. 04.......129.36........-0.88.........-1.76.........Max Cal , 522Kcal = MCT Oil
11.05.11.. 05.......129.36........-0.00.........-1.76........ cauliflower soup all day, mouth hurts..feel dehydrated
11.06.11.. 06.......129.80........+0.44.........-1.32........ Fasted most of the day, then drank water and kefir, and had half an apple
11.07.11.. 07.......128.48........-1.32.........-2.64........ .No Loss, ate early, then late DD
11.08.11.. 08.......128.48........-0.00.........-2.64........ .

I don't really know my calories accurately
I had a lean turkey w/ff cheese sandwich and carrots for breakfast
then had a bite of BF's burger
then at 10pm I made a lean beef vegetable soup but only ate half of it.

If I halve the calories from the soup ingredients, then that would come to only around 350 calories, not including the bite of cheese burger. So maybe 400-450 Kcal. If I'd eaten the whole soup it would have been 575 + burger bite calories.

Ive kinda gotten off any UD DD schedule after being sick. So I'm not sure. But I'm not hungry, so I think I'll just keep going low calories unless I have a particularly hungry day. I really lost some of my enthusiasm for food after being ill this weekend and my mouth is still irritated so I can't make my favorite spicy dishes. so...bland and easy for now.

[Ragdoll24]

Hope you are feeling better Metqa. Glad that your Rogue plan is working well for you.

[metqa]

Not so well.

I think I need to "Start Over". I'm constipated and have been the same the past two days and I know I'll be up tomorrow, and I'm still feeling out of sorts. I haven't been able to plan and eat how I like and I'm feeling full of crap, literally. Been staying within parameters, but just not feeling good and getting stodgy results. I'm drinking a bunch of Magnesium water this evening hopefully to get rid of the constipation.

I think if I keep feeling off base and keep having work and home related stuff that distracts, I might be better off going original Very low Calorie, than trying to keep track. Funny that I'd get both sick AND busy when trying a new round and new plan. Perfect timing I suppose, and I rarely get constipated, what's up with that.

Anyway, I know I'll be up so I'm not gonna bother weighing till I clear the pipes, and feel back to normal, but I think I'll have to push fluids and magnesium.

Sorry this is not as interesting as I had hoped it would be. I'm really irritated with myself and this stupid malaise wrecking my experiment.

I think I'll make a couple of my P2 Brothy soups to have for the next couple of days.

[metqa]

Drank water all day, some broth with magnesium, and I planned to have a whey protein hot chocolate but opted out as it was late and just ate 2 almonds just to test my appetite. If I eat one I usually want a handful, but My appetite has tanked since the day before. Oh at the work meeting the day before, I had a restaurant salad that was 900 calories ( had the leftover for dinner) but I haven't had any movement since at least the day before. I was sure salad, water and Magnesium would do the trick. But still no go.

I didn't mean to completely fast all day yesterday but it turned out that way. I'm gonna move up the ladder of laxatives since, interestingly enough, the magnesium is NOT working for me, I guess my body is co-opting all of it, which makes me think, what's going on in there...

Anyway I've got Renew Life Cleanse more to try today in addition to the other stuff.

ETA. My weight is still up but down from yesterday but still too high up. I feel bloaty. Correction, my weigh is back down to pre Costip weight, but still feel bloaty...

OH, the roof of my mouth is mostly intact again, I can't feel any pain when I touch it with my tongue, and my tongue is not sensitive anymore, though my throat still feels a bit tight. So I'm gonna have my protein hot chocolate for breakfast and take my water with me and see how I feel about eating today.

ETA: Oh forgot to mention I had a bit of MCT oil with my broth so I wasn't running completely on nothing. so I got about 100calories from that plus 10 or so from the broth and maybe 6 cal from the almonds, so pretty much still a fast. I have an apple in the fridge I might eat that and have an apple day just to get things moving, I forgot about that before!

[Ragdoll24]

Sorry to hear you aren't up to snuff Metqa. Hope today you'll start feeling better.
I read on the JUDDD thread that Dana Carpender was doing a JUDDD type Fat Fast and thought of you. Read on her Blog that at least for a few days, she took hCG and did the Fat Fast. Think she lost approx. 6 lbs in less than one week.

[metqa]

I've been listening to her podcasts from back to front. I need to go to the most recent to see what she's talking about lately. She's fun and interesting to listen to. That's fascinating about her Fat Fasting On HCG. I guess FF is only 1000 calories so it is a deficit. Thanks for mentioning it, I'm very interested in reading more about it.

I'm catching up to snuff, but I missed weigh in this morning. I got some movement but still very irregular for me, even on HCG. But I don't like to linger on such topics so...

I have benefitted from the HCG the past few days, not feeling like eating, the HCG must have been helping cause my appetite was low, and I wasn't light headed from not eating enough. Yesterday I had leftover Beefy Vegetable soup, so I had about 600 or so calories yesterday, and got a tummy ache. I guess two days of not eating much really turns off the stomach. Today I had a tuna pouch, and I'm gonna have some baked Yellow fin for dinner with Butter flavored MCT oil.

[metqa]

Down to 58 Kilos this morning. That's about...127.6lbs

[sazzie]

Originally Posted by metqa

Down to 58 Kilos this morning. That's about...127.6lbs

Glad to read you're feeling better today, Metqa!!

You're moving right along down that scale!!

Do you measure your body?

[SoHappy]

Originally Posted by metqa

Down to 58 Kilos this morning. That's about...127.6lbs

Is that 127.6 pounds in *regular* weight? Or is that 127.6 pounds in rogue weight?..

Congrats! You're doing great.

[metqa]

Originally Posted by sazzie

Glad to read you're feeling better today, Metqa!!

You're moving right along down that scale!!

Do you measure your body?

I have my measurements, but I haven't done a second measurement yet. I had to measure my wrist, neck, knees, and other parts in order to estimate my actual body mass vs. fat mass. but I am gonna wait till I before thanksgiving, to take them again.

Originally Posted by SoHappy

Is that 127.6 pounds in *regular* weight? Or is that 127.6 pounds in rogue weight?..

Congrats! You're doing great.

I have NO idea what you are talking about! :LOL I'm am 100% rogue so I guess that's all rogue weight! Actually I don't know what I am right now, just getting by eating what I have not even following my own plan at the moment.

[SoHappy]

Originally Posted by metqa

I have my measurements, but I haven't done a second measurement yet. I had to measure my wrist, neck, knees, and other parts in order to estimate my actual body mass vs. fat mass. but I am gonna wait till I before thanksgiving, to take them again.



I have NO idea what you are talking about! :LOL I'm am 100% rogue so I guess that's all rogue weight! Actually I don't know what I am right now, just getting by eating what I have not even following my own plan at the moment.

Did you get rid of all that old leftover *baking product* stuff in your pantry?

[metqa]

Never got around to it. I was using it a little bit at a time when I was cooking at the start of the round, and before during JUDDD, but since I got sick I wasn't eating much and I wasn't eating that stuff at all.

It's not a priority to get rid of it, The new stuff that's out there won't go anywhere, and I'm going fine without KevinPa's Awesome looking homebaked goods. I've got boxes of Dreamfields Pasta, but I don't cook pasta that often. So I have to remind myself that I have it and can use it if I want. I've got pancake mixes, but discovered I don't care for pancakes all that much, so I have to remind myself that I can make things other than pancakes, like waffles, or breading for LC style corn dogs, or even as muffins I guess, never tried that yet. I've got LC corn bread mixes that I only use for the holidays, but I need to remind myself that I can make it and have it with Chili any time I want. I've got flavored muffin mixes and cookie mixes, but somehow convinced myself that I shouldn't enjoy these snacks, so I don't bake them as often as I want, but they are better for me than the commercial variety so why shouldn't I enjoy them.

So, I'm not trying to get rid of them in that sense, but get used to having the convenience that they provide and stop forcing myself to be without when I don't have to be. That was one of my goals with the JUDDD, that I would use my Low Carb Bake mixes on UP days.

Thinking about it now, I'm in no hurry to get the new flours and such cause I really don't cook and bake that many flour based treats or food stuffs. So realizing that they aren't going to disappear, cause there are thousand of people who keep the market for them high, I can be happy with what I have and give myself permission to use them up and not be afraid that once they are gone that I can't have LC baked goods anymore. When I actually need the new stuff I'll get them, I don't have to rush.

Thanks SoHappy, you have this cathartic effect on folks, making them realize the deeper stuff.

[SoHappy]

LOL

Plus, I hate for folks to not get to eat cookies and stuff.

Some folks hate to drink alone. I hate to eat baked goods alone.

[metqa]

Oh and these cookies are SO good. they are snickerdoodles, but they come out soft instead of crisp, but I like to add some pumpkin to them and make them soft pumpkin muffin tops!!!! HMMM!

I used to share my LC baked goods, but folks didn't appreciate them, and they were expensive so I quit sharing. One time I made cookies and bought some store cookies, I ate the homemade ones and gave the store ones to the other folks, cause they wouldn't have been able to appreciate the home baked ones like I could!

Actually the Almond Flour Pound cake is something I can make and I don't eat too much of it cause it's really so much almond meal and cream cheese, it's very filling but it doesn't require the bake mix at all.

Oh something I did make with the bake mix, and regretted it with a totally Yummy Tummy Ache, was those things called funnel cakes. This was many months ago in the early summer. I made the LC pancake mix sorta runny and put a layer of coconut oil in the skillet and used a pastry funnel to drizzle coils of batter all over the skillet, and fried it and then sprinkled it with powdered splenda. It was so delicious, as good as the high carb one I had the day before at the carnival.

Hmm, all this talk about bake mixes and treats and I need to finish my apple and kefir from this morning...

[metqa]

Interesting experience just now. I was lamenting to a friend about the woes of pre-bed time hunger. It's usually not a problem because of my habit of fasting till late noon anyway.

I just did my first slow burn work routine, Not all of it, just the side lifts, bicep curls, pushup, squat, leg lifts and leg curls and crunch(pitifully) anyway. I was feeling that good feeling of Wow, my muscles are shaky from exercise feeling.

I had already had about 800kcal and wasnt' feeling hungry at all. Suddenly, I was ravenous for FAT. I grabbed my bottle of ghee and thought,I need this, I looked in the fridge. There was bacon...Nope, not enough fat, there was the Artisan bread, perfect, I nuked the ghee and the bread and drizzled the ghee on the bread before each bite. I had two slices before I had the feeling , that's good, but then I felt I needed a bit more so I finished off my pint of whole milk kefir.

That' shot my calories from 720 up to 1126 and my fat from 47% to 56%. What a sudden and interesting craving.

[sazzie]

Metqa,

I just replied to your question on another thread about Slow Burn!

You're feeling the shakiness, so that's a good thing. I still feel that when walking out of the gym. I know when I've put everything I've got into my workout my arms are shaking so badly that sometimes, I have to wait a bit before I start driving! I also feel quite 'springy', if that makes any sense!

I don't get DOMS anymore though! I did ask my trainer about that, and he told me that was a good thing. Seems my body is fit enough to overcome that???
He also told me that as long as my legs and arms are shaky, then I've done my job.
When I stopped Slow Burn during my last P2, I did lose some strength and had to decrease my weights. I'm doing 164 lbs on the leg press now, but my upper body can only handle 45 lbs. I increase them by 2 lbs. each time I work out!

Anyway, this got longer than I anticipated! Sorry!

[metqa]

Thanks Sazzie. I got shakey, and I felt "springy" too. I had to look up DOMS, ...I hope I don't get that. I always seem to get it and it's my biggest de-motivator.
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Good News: I slept all the way through the night. No panic attacks, no potty runs, no noisy neighbors
Bad News: I didn't drop any weight since yesterday.

[Ragdoll24]

Glad you had a good night's sleep Metqa. Hope the weight loss picks up for you. Hang in there sweetie.