VQ's Big hcg Adventure! - Page 15

SoHappy · 08-17-2011, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TerriMM

Most all reports are focused on what people "think" HCG is all about and what they "think" might happen and because it flies in the face of those making so much money in the "low fat" arena it's discounted vigorously. Much like Atkins was demonized in the beginning.

With all the research I've done, I've never read any substantiated reports of side effects. Worst I ever heard was someone thought the pellets may have given them a canker sore, so they rinse their month now afterwards.

No, there are always, always detractors from any diet plan, those who believe certain foods are absolute poison, adherence to certain diets will ruin your health in certain ways. Obviously, it is up to the interested individual to look into these warnings and claims and see whether they hold any merit for them, particularly in reference to their own body and its function.

Rantings are one thing. Actual studies, particularly long term are far more interesting, and sometimes persuasive. I know hcg has many uses, this weight loss plan being only one of them. I just wondered if anybody knew of any studies done on women who had been on hcg many years ago, as to any higher incidences of health issues, or even of health benefits from having been on hcg in their pasts.

bacon bit · 08-17-2011, 10:50 AM

Jessica I am so happy for you! You get a high five today!

privatediva · 08-17-2011, 11:03 AM

Happy, I would be interested in that research (if it exists). If you think about it....many women have been "on" HGC many times over the years for nine months at a shot.

SoHappy · 08-17-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by privatediva

Happy, I would be interested in that research (if it exists). If you think about it....many women have been "on" HGC many times over the years for nine months at a shot.

Precisely. Although that might be at a higher dose! LOL

And we know there are certain long term benefits of certain situations for us as women. For example, a slightly protective benefit to women who breast feed in their resistance to breast cancer.

Pregnancy and the chemicals/hormones released in our bodies during that time definitely have an effect on us and our health. So I would love to know of anything they have for long term effects of this particular hormone. If anything at all.

If there is anything, it may well be beneficial rather than cause a long delayed harm. So don't think I'm looking for harm... I'm just wondering if there is anything at all.

Like with eating low carb. There have been dire warnings for decades, but now we have done studies on people who ate low carb pretty much strictly for many years, and we know that it is of overall benefit for most. They have pretty much zeroed in on the few whose kidneys are damaged and can't process much protein, etc. We have some guidance there because of the studies of those who have eaten low carb for years.

msack3889 · 08-17-2011, 11:48 AM

Awesome Jessica!

You did really, really well on P2.

I hope I can stick with it and do it as well as you have. I'm already counting down to the end of my 21 days though

verbqueen · 08-17-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by msack3889

Awesome Jessica!

You did really, really well on P2.

I hope I can stick with it and do it as well as you have. I'm already counting down to the end of my 21 days though

I hear ya. It's not NEARLY as difficult as I thought it would be to eat 500 calorie a day, but gosh, I'm tired of eating the same foods over and over. I just want a bit more variety! (And I desperately miss FAT!

)

verbqueen · 08-17-2011, 12:08 PM

I am off, nervously, to get my thyroid bumps measured! Talk to you girls later!

verbqueen · 08-17-2011, 03:54 PM

Pretty uneventful. Luckily, I got a chatty tech and who would answer my questions. I HATE when you get one who just sighs and looks depressed but won't say anything to you. That is scary!

I didn't ask her anything, but she asked me, "So, are you having symptoms or is this just a follow-up?" I said nope, no symptoms, why? And she said she was just wondering because it didn't look much different from last year. So that's good. We'll see what my doc says.

She also said "You know, most people who have lots of small nodules like this never even know about it," so I explained that I found out by accident, when I was trying to find out why I wasn't losing weight. She said that to her, my thyroid didn't look like a Hashi's thyroid--that they are usually swollen looking, but that mine is just a normal sized thyroid with little bumps on it. Which would certainly explain why I didn't test positive for Hashi antibodies.

bacon bit · 08-17-2011, 03:58 PM

So then will you go see your doctor?

verbqueen · 08-17-2011, 04:11 PM

I honestly have no idea if he'll want to see me or not. I rather imagine they'll call me and ask me to come in for an appointment for him to "discuss" the results with me. That's what he did last year, and the results were just "yeah, you've got nodules, but they're too small to biopsy." For that, I drove 20 miles...I'm betting the same thing happens this year, but who knows?

TerriMM · 08-17-2011, 04:23 PM

Boy, your day just keeps getting better & better!

verbqueen · 08-17-2011, 04:47 PM

Ya know, you're right! Maybe I should go buy a lottery ticket...

SoHappy · 08-17-2011, 05:38 PM

Unchanged nodules is good. Yay! Go buy that lottery ticket!

verbqueen · 08-17-2011, 05:46 PM

Yep! I know she is not a radiologist, and I will wait until I talk to my doctor to draw any major conclusions. But, she IS someone who looks at thyroid glands all day, and that's somewhat encouraging!

verbqueen · 08-18-2011, 09:14 AM

OK, 174.2 again today--that's three days straight. I think that is stable enough for me to make today my last dose day, and move along to P3 on Sunday!

What a long, strange trip it's been!

SoHappy · 08-18-2011, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by verbqueen

OK, 174.2 again today--that's three days straight. I think that is stable enough for me to make today my last dose day, and move along to P3 on Sunday!

What a long, strange trip it's been!

You've done so very well, Jessica! In just a very few weeks, you have dropped a significant amount of weight and are now maintaining the loss.

I'll be glad for you to get into the next phase of your protocol and see how that works. You are so good at posting how you do things that this has been a great learning experience for me in learning about the hcg and the protocol. I thank you for that.

msack3889 · 08-18-2011, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by verbqueen

OK, 174.2 again today--that's three days straight. I think that is stable enough for me to make today my last dose day, and move along to P3 on Sunday!

What a long, strange trip it's been!

I am counting down the days to P3

TerriMM · 08-18-2011, 09:21 AM

Great job Jess!

verbqueen · 08-18-2011, 09:24 AM

Thanks yet again for the fantastic support, my friends.

SH, I'll try to continue to be your "living tutorial."

verbqueen · 08-18-2011, 09:47 AM

I'll tell you something, though, friends. I am scared of this next step.

I'm in a real comfort zone with P2. I know how to do it and make it work. I know how to go to the grocery store, how to cook, what to eat, how I'm going to feel. This new territory stuff scares me to death!

I'm planning to read, read, read on the internet and try to fully understand how to do this next part. I SO do not want to end up back on the wrong side of my 177 wall, you know?

pooticus · 08-18-2011, 11:14 AM

You can do it. Congrats!!!

CherylB · 08-18-2011, 11:46 AM

It's me! We are almost completely packed up but still at the camp site. Sis wanted to "get it over with" and be able to relax + enjoy the rest of the day, but to me, it feels like it's just over. We decided to leave "tonight" before the rain began during the night tonight.

Anyway, we all speak English but we don't communicate well. The air is sort of thick right now + due to a "failure to communicate." It's time to go, but I'm bringing Mom + all of her crap back home to help Donna out. That will prolong the fun.

The comfortable reclining chair has been packed up + here I sit in the one I brought. It's been extremely nice but I'm ready to go home now. I wish we had waited a few hours to pack. Leaving just feels like a formality now.

Jessica, I was so THRILLED to hear of your big drop on the scale. P3 is nice + will be second nature to you. Get ready for higher food bills!

Love you, girl! I'll be home later today + I'll get caught up on all the news.

verbqueen · 08-18-2011, 01:41 PM

Cheryl, you are missed here in LCF land. I'm sorry the outing ended on a slightly sour note, but will be glad to have you home.

I have a challenging day today--lunch out with some women's club friends (just got back from that) and meeting daughter at Disneyland when she gets finished with work.

I had a seared ahi salad, no dressing, so I think I did fine on lunch. I know that tuna is not allowed on Simeon's Protocol, but this was raw and unseasoned, so I don't think it will hurt me (and I'm not exactly doing Simeon's, anyhoo.) As far as dinner, I think I'll eat before I leave home, and then just have a dinner salad with Hallie wherever she chooses to eat. (Luckily, everywhere at D-land has salads and fruits nowadays.)

I've taken my post-lunch pellets, so one more dose and I'll put the bottle away for the next (possible) round.

TerriMM · 08-18-2011, 02:06 PM

Hi Jess,
Here's some links to some threads I found particularly helpful.

Phase 3 information for HCG diet

The Secret To P3

You'll do great!

verbqueen · 08-18-2011, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerriMM

Hi Jess,
Here's some links to some threads I found particularly helpful.

Phase 3 information for HCG diet

The Secret To P3

You'll do great!

Yay!!! Thank you, Terri!

verbqueen · 08-18-2011, 04:35 PM

I am headed off to D-land! I'll stop by tonight when I get home. Have a lovely evening, ladies.

TerriMM · 08-18-2011, 08:02 PM

Hope you have a great time!!

verbqueen · 08-18-2011, 08:37 PM

Ok, funny story. Hallie and I met at this grocery store parking lot to leave my car there (she has a parking pass, I don't), parked in the multi-story structure, rode the tram in, went through the security check, got in line....when we finally got to the front, they scanned my pass, said "Sorry, ma'am, you're blacked out today, but for $59 you can upgrade. Just go to the ticket window." Apparently, when Hallie checked the blackout dates for annual passes, she checked the deluxe kind instead of the mid-level one I have.

So, being deeply uninterested in upgrading for $59 for approximately 3 hours of entertainment, we decided to eat dinner at Downtown Disney, window shop and people watch a little, then head out.

So while I SAW Disneyland tonight, I did not actually enter it! (It was fine with me--I'm not a big Disney fan anyway, what with not really liking lines or crowds. I only have a pass because she loves for me to meet her there.)

CherylB · 08-18-2011, 08:59 PM

For Pete's sake! I hate stuff like that. Boo-hiss on crowds and lines. I'm glad you are taking it all in stride.

I'm home and glad to be back in my familiar and incredibly comfortable and convenient surroundings. There's no place like home.

TTYT!

verbqueen · 08-19-2011, 08:31 AM

Good morning, world! I weighed in at 174.4 today. However, it was an hour earlier than usual, because I'm getting ready to leave--meeting my book club to see "The Help." (Whoever heard of a 9:30 a.m. matinee?!)

That will be followed by yet ANOTHER lunch out (I'm a social butterfly this week!), but I'm well familiar with this particular bistro, and know that they have a salad with a small piece of grilled steak on it, so I should be fine having that.

I'll be back to check in later!

08-17-2011, 03:54 PM	#428
verbqueen Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 4,660 Gallery: verbqueen Stats: 224/163 WOE: hhcg, VLCD12	Pretty uneventful. Luckily, I got a chatty tech and who would answer my questions. I HATE when you get one who just sighs and looks depressed but won't say anything to you. That is scary! I didn't ask her anything, but she asked me, "So, are you having symptoms or is this just a follow-up?" I said nope, no symptoms, why? And she said she was just wondering because it didn't look much different from last year. So that's good. We'll see what my doc says. She also said "You know, most people who have lots of small nodules like this never even know about it," so I explained that I found out by accident, when I was trying to find out why I wasn't losing weight. She said that to her, my thyroid didn't look like a Hashi's thyroid--that they are usually swollen looking, but that mine is just a normal sized thyroid with little bumps on it. Which would certainly explain why I didn't test positive for Hashi antibodies. __________________ Jessica in CA, age 55, 5'10" *"The day seems full of possibility when I'm having coffee." -Laylabean* My HCG Journal

08-18-2011, 11:46 AM	#442
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,072 Gallery: CherylB	It's me! We are almost completely packed up but still at the camp site. Sis wanted to "get it over with" and be able to relax + enjoy the rest of the day, but to me, it feels like it's just over. We decided to leave "tonight" before the rain began during the night tonight. Anyway, we all speak English but we don't communicate well. The air is sort of thick right now + due to a "failure to communicate." It's time to go, but I'm bringing Mom + all of her crap back home to help Donna out. That will prolong the fun. The comfortable reclining chair has been packed up + here I sit in the one I brought. It's been extremely nice but I'm ready to go home now. I wish we had waited a few hours to pack. Leaving just feels like a formality now. Jessica, I was so THRILLED to hear of your big drop on the scale. P3 is nice + will be second nature to you. Get ready for higher food bills! Love you, girl! I'll be home later today + I'll get caught up on all the news. __________________ What we sow today, we will certainly reap tomorrow. Spend your time wisely. Make it count. There are no do-overs in life. And the clock is ticking.

08-18-2011, 01:41 PM	#443
verbqueen Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 4,660 Gallery: verbqueen Stats: 224/163 WOE: hhcg, VLCD12	Cheryl, you are missed here in LCF land. I'm sorry the outing ended on a slightly sour note, but will be glad to have you home. I have a challenging day today--lunch out with some women's club friends (just got back from that) and meeting daughter at Disneyland when she gets finished with work. I had a seared ahi salad, no dressing, so I think I did fine on lunch. I know that tuna is not allowed on Simeon's Protocol, but this was raw and unseasoned, so I don't think it will hurt me (and I'm not exactly doing Simeon's, anyhoo.) As far as dinner, I think I'll eat before I leave home, and then just have a dinner salad with Hallie wherever she chooses to eat. (Luckily, everywhere at D-land has salads and fruits nowadays.) I've taken my post-lunch pellets, so one more dose and I'll put the bottle away for the next (possible) round. Last edited by verbqueen; 08-18-2011 at 01:42 PM..

08-18-2011, 08:37 PM	#448
verbqueen Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 4,660 Gallery: verbqueen Stats: 224/163 WOE: hhcg, VLCD12	Ok, funny story. Hallie and I met at this grocery store parking lot to leave my car there (she has a parking pass, I don't), parked in the multi-story structure, rode the tram in, went through the security check, got in line....when we finally got to the front, they scanned my pass, said "Sorry, ma'am, you're blacked out today, but for $59 you can upgrade. Just go to the ticket window." Apparently, when Hallie checked the blackout dates for annual passes, she checked the deluxe kind instead of the mid-level one I have. So, being deeply uninterested in upgrading for $59 for approximately 3 hours of entertainment, we decided to eat dinner at Downtown Disney, window shop and people watch a little, then head out. So while I SAW Disneyland tonight, I did not actually enter it! (It was fine with me--I'm not a big Disney fan anyway, what with not really liking lines or crowds. I only have a pass because she loves for me to meet her there.) Last edited by verbqueen; 08-18-2011 at 09:07 PM..

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08-17-2011, 10:50 AM	#422
bacon bit Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2011 Location: Midwest, USA Posts: 1,027 Gallery: bacon bit Stats: 201/143.2/135 5'2"/33 yrs WOE: Induction and carb up one evening a week Start Date: May 2011	Jessica I am so happy for you! You get a high five today!

08-17-2011, 11:03 AM	#423
privatediva Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 2,544 Gallery: privatediva Stats: 128 (R2ldw 128) 5'7" WOE: healthful, delicious low carb Start Date: 6/28/2011 (started HCG) maintaining since 9/2011	Happy, I would be interested in that research (if it exists). If you think about it....many women have been "on" HGC many times over the years for nine months at a shot.

08-17-2011, 11:48 AM	#425
msack3889 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mass Posts: 505 Gallery: msack3889 WOE: HCG Start Date: 7/4/2012	Awesome Jessica! You did really, really well on P2. I hope I can stick with it and do it as well as you have. I'm already counting down to the end of my 21 days though

08-17-2011, 12:08 PM	#427
verbqueen Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 4,660 Gallery: verbqueen Stats: 224/163 WOE: hhcg, VLCD12	I am off, nervously, to get my thyroid bumps measured! Talk to you girls later!

08-17-2011, 03:58 PM	#429
bacon bit Major LCF Poster! Join Date: May 2011 Location: Midwest, USA Posts: 1,027 Gallery: bacon bit Stats: 201/143.2/135 5'2"/33 yrs WOE: Induction and carb up one evening a week Start Date: May 2011	So then will you go see your doctor?

08-17-2011, 04:11 PM	#430
verbqueen Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 4,660 Gallery: verbqueen Stats: 224/163 WOE: hhcg, VLCD12	I honestly have no idea if he'll want to see me or not. I rather imagine they'll call me and ask me to come in for an appointment for him to "discuss" the results with me. That's what he did last year, and the results were just "yeah, you've got nodules, but they're too small to biopsy." For that, I drove 20 miles...I'm betting the same thing happens this year, but who knows?

08-17-2011, 04:23 PM	#431
TerriMM Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,418 Gallery: TerriMM Start Date: 5/18/11	Boy, your day just keeps getting better & better!

08-17-2011, 04:47 PM	#432
verbqueen Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 4,660 Gallery: verbqueen Stats: 224/163 WOE: hhcg, VLCD12	Ya know, you're right! Maybe I should go buy a lottery ticket...

08-17-2011, 05:38 PM	#433
SoHappy Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 17,934 Gallery: SoHappy Stats: obese/slimmer WOE: JUDDD!!!	Unchanged nodules is good. Yay! Go buy that lottery ticket!

08-17-2011, 05:46 PM	#434
verbqueen Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 4,660 Gallery: verbqueen Stats: 224/163 WOE: hhcg, VLCD12	Yep! I know she is not a radiologist, and I will wait until I talk to my doctor to draw any major conclusions. But, she IS someone who looks at thyroid glands all day, and that's somewhat encouraging!

08-18-2011, 09:14 AM	#435
verbqueen Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 4,660 Gallery: verbqueen Stats: 224/163 WOE: hhcg, VLCD12	OK, 174.2 again today--that's three days straight. I think that is stable enough for me to make today my last dose day, and move along to P3 on Sunday! What a long, strange trip it's been!

08-18-2011, 09:21 AM	#438
TerriMM Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,418 Gallery: TerriMM Start Date: 5/18/11	Great job Jess!

08-18-2011, 09:24 AM	#439
verbqueen Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 4,660 Gallery: verbqueen Stats: 224/163 WOE: hhcg, VLCD12	Thanks yet again for the fantastic support, my friends. SH, I'll try to continue to be your "living tutorial."

08-18-2011, 09:47 AM	#440
verbqueen Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 4,660 Gallery: verbqueen Stats: 224/163 WOE: hhcg, VLCD12	I'll tell you something, though, friends. I am scared of this next step. I'm in a real comfort zone with P2. I know how to do it and make it work. I know how to go to the grocery store, how to cook, what to eat, how I'm going to feel. This new territory stuff scares me to death! I'm planning to read, read, read on the internet and try to fully understand how to do this next part. I SO do not want to end up back on the wrong side of my 177 wall, you know?

08-18-2011, 11:14 AM	#441
pooticus Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: May 2004 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 21,049 Gallery: pooticus Stats: 314/220.4/150 WOE: PersonalPlan Start Date: Nov.20, 2007 (restart)	You can do it. Congrats!!!

08-18-2011, 02:06 PM	#444
TerriMM Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,418 Gallery: TerriMM Start Date: 5/18/11	Hi Jess, Here's some links to some threads I found particularly helpful. Phase 3 information for HCG diet The Secret To P3 You'll do great!

08-18-2011, 04:35 PM	#446
verbqueen Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 4,660 Gallery: verbqueen Stats: 224/163 WOE: hhcg, VLCD12	I am headed off to D-land! I'll stop by tonight when I get home. Have a lovely evening, ladies.

08-18-2011, 08:02 PM	#447
TerriMM Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,418 Gallery: TerriMM Start Date: 5/18/11	Hope you have a great time!!

08-18-2011, 08:59 PM	#449
CherylB Big Yapper! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 14,072 Gallery: CherylB	For Pete's sake! I hate stuff like that. Boo-hiss on crowds and lines. I'm glad you are taking it all in stride. I'm home and glad to be back in my familiar and incredibly comfortable and convenient surroundings. There's no place like home. TTYT!

08-19-2011, 08:31 AM	#450
verbqueen Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 4,660 Gallery: verbqueen Stats: 224/163 WOE: hhcg, VLCD12	Good morning, world! I weighed in at 174.4 today. However, it was an hour earlier than usual, because I'm getting ready to leave--meeting my book club to see "The Help." (Whoever heard of a 9:30 a.m. matinee?!) That will be followed by yet ANOTHER lunch out (I'm a social butterfly this week!), but I'm well familiar with this particular bistro, and know that they have a salad with a small piece of grilled steak on it, so I should be fine having that. I'll be back to check in later!