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Old 02-01-2011, 02:21 AM   #61
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hmmmm... well I drank a lot of water yesterday which is good, but I think some of the carbs I've let creep in are messing with me, specifically the Breyer's carb-smart ice cream. think that ended up replacing the coconut bark problem. that and the BBQ sauce my wife made to go with the brisket had some sugar and molasses in it, so those two are probably culprits I need to cut out.

At this point I probably got some glycogen stored up in my liver or muscles, hence why my weight's been so volatile (not changing by .4/day or whatever, but wildly swinging up & down) so I should go zero-carb for a few days and see how it changes.

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I've heard from others that the LC ice cream really messes things up for them...
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Old 02-01-2011, 05:45 AM   #63
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yeah, it's yet another thing I get to look forward to when I'm at my target weight! blah.

Managed 20 minutes on an elliptical this morning, mostly cardio and music really helps with keeping on that machine... doing a very-low-carb thing today, the only carbs I'm having is the ones in cheese and a sliced bell pepper snack with lunch, otherwise it was a 2-egg cheese omelette with butter on the side and lunch is brisket with butter, no BBQ sauce. Between the VLC and cardio I'm hoping the latent glycogen stores are getting sent to the scrapper where they belong!
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Old 02-01-2011, 05:17 PM   #64
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huh, on a side note, I started using ******.com today and entered everything I ate today. I was pigging out hardcore with beef, pork rinds, ate half a rack of ribs for dinner, had a good sized cheese omelette with butter, and after tallying it all up I came to around 2200 calories. The website estimates I probably burned 3800ish and that includes the 20min elliptical run. I remember when I went to a dietitian and tried to follow her plan (I made a spreadsheet that I printed 50 copies of and kept one with me at all times to jot it down) I struggled to eat less than 2800 calories/day, and still lost weight (albeit it took 6 months to lose 10lbs...) and I was only sated, not full, most of that time. Today I've felt like I've been a PIG all day long.

That's just an eye-opener.

FWIW, here's the stats from ******.com:
2 large eggs
2oz cheddar cheese, dry grated
5oz beef brisket
3 tblsp butter
8oz pork loin ribs
2tsp sugar (estimated from the dry rub on the ribs)
2 cups pork rinds
0.5 cups raw pepper, in strips
1oz cream cheese

2202 calories, 165.9g fat, 14.4g carbs, 157.3g protein
Calorie proportion: Fat 67% / Protein 30% / Carbs 3%

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Old 02-02-2011, 03:14 AM   #65
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Old 02-02-2011, 11:07 AM   #66
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One thing I've been noticing this week is that I have a lot less energy than I've had the past few weeks, not sure why. I've been sleeping fairly well, but waking up tired and I've been a bit foggy all day... yet I am pretty sure I'm in deep ketosis, so I don't know what the difference is. Maybe I should bump up my vegetables/carbs a bit and see what happens? I am certainly overdue to enter Ongoing Weight Loss, just not sure if I want to.
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Old 02-02-2011, 11:21 AM   #67
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PS- Decided to buy a small canister of L-Glutamine powder, tried a fraction of a spoonful after lunch and wow... It does make a difference, it makes my stomach feel more or less how it does after eating a meal. Lots of sensations going on in there but none of them make me reach for the pork rinds (which I finished already this morning) or cheese (which requires a short walk to the office fridge).
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Old 02-02-2011, 01:16 PM   #68
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Well then again ******.com thinks my body's burning over 3300 calories today, but I've only consumed around 1336 so far, and it's 2/3rds of the way through the day... 2/3 of 3300 is around 2253 (not an exact number since I'm sure it accounts for lower metabolic needs of sleep vs. wake) but by that metric I'm almost 900 calories in the hole today already. Perhaps my body's metabolism is finally fixing itself and now it's working correctly--depressing my energy levels when I am running a deep calorie deficit? Funny because I'm not hungry at all!
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Old 02-03-2011, 02:57 AM   #69
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Old 02-03-2011, 04:29 AM   #70
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Ate a huge breakfast this morning, according to ******.com it should be around 800 calories or so. Yesterday after logging everything I was rolling with around 1300 calories almost all day (less than 400 of them for breakfast--eggs don't contain that many calories! the cheese outpaced the eggs by far), and ate an extra 600 or so for dinner, and I was tired. Woke up tired this morning too, now about 30min after eating breakfast I'm feeling some energy come through. I think having a "big breakfast" is probably the best way to roll, really with any diet but especially with one where you seem naturally predisposed to eat less (and feel fuller)...

Got a couple ounces of leftover beef brisket, that'll be my midmorning snack today.

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Old 02-03-2011, 05:21 AM   #71
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Do you think that a multi-vitamin would help the fatigue issue?
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Old 02-03-2011, 05:27 AM   #72
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Do you think that a multi-vitamin would help the fatigue issue?
I've been taking one. I think I figured it out--I wasn't eating enough, or not eating enough *early*. I had a huge breakfast this morning (almost 900 calories) and I'm back up to perkyness again. Took an hour or so but the energy's back. Gotta switch things around so my breakfast is almost half my calories, followed by lunch and then a modest dinner--most of which I'll save for lunch the next day, instead of gorging on it.

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Old 02-03-2011, 06:55 AM   #73
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Good plan. That's pretty much how things go for me as well. I eat a manly breakfast, and then I'm not usually all that hungry throughout the day, but my energy is sky high.
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Old 02-03-2011, 08:10 AM   #74
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Yep it's 11AM and I am sweating... my energy is sky high for sure.

Just had the last 2oz piece of brisket, and several cups of espresso (decaf) with HWC, probably drank around 0.5 cups of the stuff. Over 1300 calories today so far.

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Old 02-03-2011, 06:27 PM   #75
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I gotta say, after reading some of the beginning of Dr. Atkins Vita-Nutrient Solution, I like the man (or would have, if he were still alive) a lot. He's my kind of intellectual-- Call out the sheer BULL S**T of the medical industry at face value as he sees it. This book seems to be much bigger than DANDR and is organized like a medical bible, lol, pointing out combination of vitamins and nutrients that he specifies as protocol for treating specific ailments or conditions.
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Old 02-04-2011, 03:24 AM   #76
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WOOHOO! New low!

I gotta say, something is still off though... For the past month I usually wake up with a basal energy level that's usually pretty good, but even this morning I woke up with a mental block like I didn't get enough sleep (8 hours should be enough?) or something. Well I'll have plenty of time to sleep this weekend so maybe I am just running a sleep deficit.

Time to make my website rounds and then cook my big breakfast!
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NICE JOB!

I hope you find an answer to the fatigue issue soon.
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Old 02-05-2011, 03:46 AM   #78
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I felt ... very ketotic all day yesterday, lol, the fatty meals were fueling some serious energy, and this morning I can smell some ketones on my breath lol.

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Old 02-05-2011, 04:42 AM   #79
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I love that feeling! Well, minus the dragon breath. I was rocking that yesterday myself!
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Old 02-05-2011, 11:43 AM   #80
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hahaha, my wife commented on the keto-breath. she's preggers so she has the bionic nose. LOL she can't stand it!
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Another thing I thought of yesterday, especially after drinking a lot of water and feeling bad a bit later is that my electrolytes might be low, so I've been backing off on all the water and eating more salt, some more vegetables and I finished off the rest of my Atkins frankenfoods I had laying around today, which had tons of potassium in them. Today I've got the worst ketosis breath of any time I can remember LOL. It's pure ketones too, rather nasty but with a mildly sweet acetone aroma overtop, I can smell it when I hold my hand over my mouth, breath out fully and then inhale through my nose...

And eating breakfast now is exciting because I get so REVVED UP afterwards and stay that way most of the day. I've also been cooking my eggs with coconut oil rather than butter. That might have a huge thing to do with it, so I might try using butter tomorrow and see if my energy levels drop or don't rev up as high... worth a minor experiment I guess.
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Old 02-06-2011, 05:01 AM   #82
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Morning weigh-in: 246.8

That rounds up this week... Same highest-high-weight as last week but a new lowest low (245.8) which is .6lb lower than last week's lowest low. Seems this week's been a stall-week, albeit still with some progress. Next week the name of the game is electrolytes, big breakfast, and add some exercise.
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Old 02-06-2011, 05:28 PM   #83
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Giving coconut bark another try, this time with Splenda rather than Stevia. Stevia always made me hungry, after trying a little of this I don't feel hungry at all, so maybe the Splenda works better for me.

What prompted me to try is that my wife found an awesome candy mold at Michael's -- a 24-square "mini brownie" silicone mold, perfect for my application! I did coconut bark using a typical recipe (this time I did have almond butter, and I added some almond meal) and it yielded around 7 squares worth. I multiplied everything out to fit 24 squares and it ended up filling... 22.5 or so, not too bad.

Recipe for the whole batch:
6tblsp butter
14tblsp CO
4tblsp almond meal
4tblsp almond butter
7tblsp cocoa
7pkt splenda to taste

I found that 7 packets of splenda was just right, and it's not too sweet yet just sweet enough to satisfy--it depends more on the butter for the creamy sensation.
Nothing fancy about the preparation, I just melted all the wet ingredients under medium heat (the butter I used the marks on the stick to gauge, the CO I spooned it out with a tablespoon when it was already melted in the container), mixed them together, added almond meal, then cocoa, stirred a while, added almond butter, stirred and let it soften/melt, then eventually added 4 pkts splenda and mixed, then added 1 packet and mixed tasting it after each one.

I put the silicone mold on a metal tray and toss it in the fridge... I think a few hours hardens it up, but one thing I realized is that when you poke out the squares (that's the beauty of silicone, you can just poke out each square from underneath instead of trying to dig it out) be sure to put it into a dish that's already chilled (I do it onto the tray, which is already cold, but then toss them onto another plate...) or else they'll start to melt onto the plate/container if it's warm or close to room temperature. I gotta find a suitable pyrex container to store these when they chill... though I probably won't touch it 'till tomorrow morning.

Um I think they yielded around 85 calories and 0.8g [NET] carbs each. I could probably knock that down a little bit if I found liquid splenda.

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Old 02-07-2011, 03:10 AM   #84
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Would be happy if this is the highest reading this week... highest reading last week was 248.6.
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Old 02-07-2011, 04:39 AM   #85
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Almost forgot to re-post the weekly chart:


The closing weight (sunday morning) was higher than the opening (last monday morning), but what I need to keep in mind is that both of those are lower than the opening & closing weights the week before, which happened to be the same in that instance.
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Yargh!! Begone 248's... begone! Last night I ate out at a chinese restaurant (convenience thing, was an hour away from home) and paid for it this morning... oh well hopefully tomorrow'll be lower!

Still got very strong ketosis breath, so I'm definitely not stalled out of ketosis.. probably just the volume of food I ate.
OTOH, reading 248.6 while still feeling completely stuffed (as opposed to 249, or 250...) means I probably have lost measureable fat, it's just not showing up on the scale yet.

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Man I swear to god if I eat any more fat today I could fill a bottle of nail polish remover in a few minutes. The acetone smell on my breath is STRONG.

Lately I've also been upping my vitamins, before I was only taking 1 pill a day (the bottle says to take 3/day), so I've increased it to 2-3/day and also bought a bunch more individual vitamins to shore up what Dr. Atkins says in his Dr. Atkins Vita-Nutrient Solution book. Taking Folic Acid (800mcg tablets, 4-6/day) plus Vitamin E 400IU plus a Vitamin C+Bioflavonoid (500mg) pill, and now added Niacin (Inositol Hexaniacinide or whatever) to the mix. It seems the ketone smell has become much stronger since I started taking the extra vitamins. I wonder if that's evidence they're working--and that my liver now has all the enzymes it needs for full-strength ketosis? I feel alright I guess, still plenty of energy.

Hmm, think I might back off the Niacin though. Supposedly it has anti-fat breakdown properties, which is proposed as the reason why it reduces LDL/VLDL and such. The multivitamin should provide enough.

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Old 02-08-2011, 08:36 AM   #88
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Ahhh, very fascinating.
Biogeek - bodybuilder ketosis vitamin combo....safe?

About niacin--according to a quote on this article Niacin forces the body to prefer glycogen stores over fat, thus potentially helping one enter ketosis quicker after a carby meal. Doesn't sound like something I need to take in high amounts, but sounds like a useful "tool" for getting back into the game after an above-average carby meal.
OTOH, everything I've read so far says that no-flush niacin is useless, as the body can't even break it down. Whoops, looks like that was a waste!

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Old 02-08-2011, 10:26 AM   #89
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After lunch, which was leftover chinese food (the sauce definitely had sugar in it) I noticed within an hour the acetone smell in my breath disappeared. Definite sign that I've stepped out of ketosis. Took a walk up to the local Walmart to browse around, wonder how long it'll take for the ketosis to kick in again...
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And now this is something I'm tossing in here just so I remember it-

How would YOU end a stall?

I have noticed, despite my weight routinely showing in the upper-240's the past couple weeks, that my pants are seeming looser by the week. Guess I just need to hold on and keep at it.
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