HCG at Gilded Lily's Pad

[Gilded Lily]

R2P2VLCD1 is over and I am down 5 pounds this morning! Only 1.5 to go to get to my LDW and enter new territory.

I drank a lot of water yesterday, plus I used lemon for the diuretic effect. I was in the bathroom most of the day.

I felt just awful yesterday. I had the carb/sugar hangover and I was unbelievably tired. I took 2 small naps and ended up going to bed around 9. I slept most of the night but was wide awake at 6.

Yesterday's menu:

chicken, cucumber, apple, melba
chicken, cucumber, apple, melba

I ate the same thing for both meals yesterday. I was so tired and had so much brain fog that I just didn't care. I need to go to the grocery today. I miss the shakes!

[Gilded Lily]

Originally Posted by shari

Good job loading!!! Don't worry the load weight comes off fast. Here's to a good second round.

So far, so good! 1.5 to go! Good luck to you too!

Originally Posted by sassy_red

Yeah I gained 7lbs this round of loading, which was more than a bit annoying!! Fortunately it came off quick. I'm willing to bet it's mostly water and will leave the premises post-haste!!

Glad to see yours came off fast! I am so looking forward to brand new numbers!

Originally Posted by tempted_by_food

Haha thankyou for eating some for me too, I bet I enjoyed it I hope D1 went well and goodluck today on D2

Haha, you loved it! Good luck to you too!

Originally Posted by lorettahd

Morning Lily, how's it going?

Hi Loretta!

You know, yesterday wasn't TOO bad hunger wise. It was mostly a piddly little hunger. Hoping today isn't too bad!

[sassy_red]

*gasp* That's an incredible loss, congratulations!!!!!!

Sorry about the detox but WOW what a reward for suffering through it!!

[lorettahd]

Good loss, congratulations

[shari]

Congrats on the loss! What a way to start a new round!!

[Gilded Lily]

Thanks ladies.

You know, I need to take something back. A few days ago I said I hadn't noticed any p3 reshaping. That's not true. My body is curvier than before and my face is thinner. I wish I had taken pictures at the end of p2. This time, for sure...

[KOO]

Congrats on the 5 lbs. down overnight!

[sassy_red]

Originally Posted by Gilded Lily

Thanks ladies.

You know, I need to take something back. A few days ago I said I hadn't noticed any p3 reshaping. That's not true. My body is curvier than before and my face is thinner. I wish I had taken pictures at the end of p2. This time, for sure...

I didn't take any pictures my last round, just measurements, but this time I actually have pictures (which are of the ucky-yucky, HATE DEATH kind ). I've decided to never post them however until I have good after shots. :blush:

This morning I was staring at my face and it does seem thinner, but I'm a horrible judge of that.

[lorettahd]

Morning Lily, how are you doing today?

[shari]

Originally Posted by Gilded Lily

Thanks ladies.

You know, I need to take something back. A few days ago I said I hadn't noticed any p3 reshaping. That's not true. My body is curvier than before and my face is thinner. I wish I had taken pictures at the end of p2. This time, for sure...

Whooo-Hoooo!! Congrats on the curves and slimmer face. Can't wait to see pics.

[tempted_by_food]

5lbs on day 1 woohoo

[Gilded Lily]

Thanks ladies!

I finished R2P2VLCD2 and I was down 3 more pounds this morning. Since I gained 6.5 in loading, the 3 today and the 5 yesterday puts me at 1.5 below my LDW from R1. New territory!

Yesterday's menu:

chicken, apple, melba
Biz's shake

I still feel horrid today.

[sassy_red]

Fantastic losses, but icky that you're feeling so horrible. Hopefully that'll pass soon, detox is a butt.

[lorettahd]

Originally Posted by Gilded Lily

Thanks ladies!

I finished R2P2VLCD2 and I was down 3 more pounds this morning. Since I gained 6.5 in loading, the 3 today and the 5 yesterday puts me at 1.5 below my LDW from R1. New territory!

Yesterday's menu:

chicken, apple, melba
Biz's shake

I still feel horrid today.

awesome release, get better soon

[shari]

Good morning Brenda, wow...you're totally rocking the protocol!! Incredible releases. Hope you feel better today.

[tempted_by_food]

congrats on the new territory

[lorettahd]

Lily,

[Gilded Lily]

Good morning, guys, and thanks for the encouragement. It is SO appreciated!

I finished R2P2VLCD3 and I am down 1 pound this morning giving me a total of 2.5 lost. Looking back, this is shaping up to be the same pattern of loss as last round.

Yesterday's menu:

chicken, cucumber, apple, melba
Biz's shake

I don't know about you all, but I am so weak on p2. I upped my potassium to 6 per day. I still feel as weak as a newborn kitten. I don't see how people exercise or do heavy work on this protocol. It wipes me out.

[sassy_red]

Try also taking a B complex vitamin and possibly L-glutamine. You're getting enough sleep and water right? Congrats on the pound lost, but sorry you're feeling so weak.

[lorettahd]

Originally Posted by Gilded Lily

Good morning, guys, and thanks for the encouragement. It is SO appreciated!

I finished R2P2VLCD3 and I am down 1 pound this morning giving me a total of 2.5 lost. Looking back, this is shaping up to be the same pattern of loss as last round.

Yesterday's menu:

chicken, cucumber, apple, melba
Biz's shake

I don't know about you all, but I am so weak on p2. I upped my potassium to 6 per day. I still feel as weak as a newborn kitten. I don't see how people exercise or do heavy work on this protocol. It wipes me out.

Congratulations on your release Brenda, sorry to hear that you are feeling so weak though. Maybe Gracie will have some words of wisdom when she reads your journal. I don't know what you can do about the weak feeling. Hope today is better.

[Deb294evr]

Brenda you really knocked off that loading weight fast! WOW! congrats! As for the weakness, I felt that so badly in round 1 my knees actually hurt so bad I could not stand it.. no idea why the knees though? Anyway, add what you need to add to make yourself feel better. One oz of protein extra helped me to feel better... but YMMV.

Hang in there!

[debkeversole]

Originally Posted by Deb294evr

Brenda you really knocked off that loading weight fast! WOW! congrats! As for the weakness, I felt that so badly in round 1 my knees actually hurt so bad I could not stand it.. no idea why the knees though? Anyway, add what you need to add to make yourself feel better. One oz of protein extra helped me to feel better... but YMMV.

Hang in there!

i AGREE OR ANOTHER WHOLE PORTION I HAVEN'T HAD BUT ONE DAY I WOULD CONSIDER WEAKNESS ON 5 WHOLE ROUNDS eek caps lock not shouting still have fat fingers DH went to work the whole time he was dosing and he works at the walmart DC in your town and you know what heavy work that is 10 hour shifts
ok got your potassium up good r u taking a god mutli?? and i always add C and a pro biotic lots add B12 or a B complex on me they seem to irritate so i don't do the extra Bs but Ken did
L-glutamate is a great suggestion

yerbe mate not only helps with hunger it also helps with energy! KUTGW

[shari]

Good morning, hope you feel better today. Did you add an extra protein?

[Gilded Lily]

I have to admit something. I am so inept when it comes to vitamins and such, I don't even have a clue. Before starting this protocol, I'd never taken anything in my whole life. I only figured out to take the potassium last round when I had such bad episodes that sent me to bed with nausea and weakness.

Originally Posted by sassy_red

Try also taking a B complex vitamin and possibly L-glutamine. You're getting enough sleep and water right? Congrats on the pound lost, but sorry you're feeling so weak.

Is B12 different than B complex? I will look up L-glutamine. I am sleeping better than ever and I'm chugging the water.

Originally Posted by lorettahd

Congratulations on your release Brenda, sorry to hear that you are feeling so weak though. Maybe Gracie will have some words of wisdom when she reads your journal. I don't know what you can do about the weak feeling. Hope today is better.

Thanks Lo Lo!

Originally Posted by Deb294evr

Brenda you really knocked off that loading weight fast! WOW! congrats! As for the weakness, I felt that so badly in round 1 my knees actually hurt so bad I could not stand it.. no idea why the knees though? Anyway, add what you need to add to make yourself feel better. One oz of protein extra helped me to feel better... but YMMV.

Hang in there!

So weird about the knees?! I was so zonked out yesterday that I forgot about the protein. Thanks!!!

Originally Posted by debkeversole

i AGREE OR ANOTHER WHOLE PORTION I HAVEN'T HAD BUT ONE DAY I WOULD CONSIDER WEAKNESS ON 5 WHOLE ROUNDS eek caps lock not shouting still have fat fingers DH went to work the whole time he was dosing and he works at the walmart DC in your town and you know what heavy work that is 10 hour shifts
ok got your potassium up good r u taking a god mutli?? and i always add C and a pro biotic lots add B12 or a B complex on me they seem to irritate so i don't do the extra Bs but Ken did
L-glutamate is a great suggestion

yerbe mate not only helps with hunger it also helps with energy! KUTGW

LOL at the fat fingers, Deb.

Hmmm, I seem to be one of the few with weakness issues. My nephew hasn't had a problem either.

I haven't been taking anything other than the potassium. I need to write all these suggestions down. I will start taking a multi. Probiotics on p2? I thought that was p3? I am so confused.

I found the Yerbe Mate! Kroger is much better than WalMart for some of these things.

Yes, I do know what heavy work that is at the d.c. I was lucky enough to tour it once when dd was in grade school. I would seriously pass out if I had to do that work on p2. No way I could handle it.

Originally Posted by shari

Good morning, hope you feel better today. Did you add an extra protein?

No extra protein yet. I will today if I need it!

[Gilded Lily]

I finished R2P2VLCD4 and I'm down another 1.5 this morning, giving me a net of 4 pounds. That puts me at 30 lost since starting.

So strange, but looking back at my records the weight loss has been almost identical to the first round. Every single day.

Yesterday's menu:

taco salad, apple, melba
scrambled eggs w/rotel & spinach

I have such bad brain fog, I feel like I have no brain at all. And I'm going to try balancing my checkbook. This should be fun.

[sassy_red]

I think you should look into starting probiotics as it sounds like you have Candida die-off (brain fog, weakness etc).

The reason I specified B12 is because a good friend had B12 deficiencies that made her weak, and only taking shots at a doctor's office helped (immensely!).

I'd like to second the extra serving of protein, at least until the weakness passes. It's a documented (in P&I) side effect that blood sugar can lower dramatically which could also cause your symptoms. There's a wide variety of things that could cause weakness, most of which may only be found through bloodwork etc, but I hate that you're going through this. Is the weakness any particular time of the day? Maybe move a meal to coincide with the time.

[Gilded Lily]

Sassy, thank you so much for helping me! I appreciate it very, very much!

I know that something is off. Remember the poster, Tay, that quit because she passed out. I feel that faintness often.

I am going to start taking a multi and I will look into the probiotics. I have some that I bought for p3 but didn't use. As soon as I hit p3, my stomach was awesome and I felt like a new person physically. No more weakness!

Do you think it could be my electrolytes? (Another subject I know very little about!) I can't seem to find a happy place between my sodium intake and my weightloss. Plus, I have IBS-D and Bernice will not leave me alone on p2. Could I be drinking too much water? I am drinking a little less than a gallon/day, I would say.

I feel like this 24/7 and last time it lasted the entire round. I thought it was normal.

I would love to do this round feeling better! As it is, I don't want to get up off the couch.

Maybe I will increase the protein. Hmmmm.

[debkeversole]

i am a great fan of probiotics all the time and yeah that is one reason i advocated Strongly for everyone to read those long threads from last year and got shouted down(not by you just venting and a lot of the reason i barely even read the main thread anymore sorry for the thread jack) great info and how things worked then for people with more experience on it i was advised to get probiotics before the start of my first round and have never regretted it by all means up your potassium a bit more(i always took 3 -99mg spaced through the day, Gracie takes 2-99mg 2x a day i think i saw someone took up to 8??) if needed and try to take a spoonful of ACV in water
hmm if you are already GOing a lot i don't think i would add any more magnesium
NOT PROTOCOL ALERT if it continues drink a G2 gatorade

seems like sodium bicarbonate is listed as an electrolyte so maybe a little in glass of water might help??

B12 is one specific vitamin and loads of us are deficient in it i really need the shots but they were too expensive and B complex contains all the B vitamins i think

* Vitamin B1 (thiamine)
* Vitamin B2 (riboflavin)
* Vitamin B3 (niacin or niacinamide, sometimes also known as vitamin PP)
* Vitamin B5 (pantothenic acid)
* Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine, pyridoxal, or pyridoxamine, or pyridoxine hydrochloride)
* Vitamin B7 (biotin)
* Vitamin B8 (inositol)[citation needed]
* Vitamin B9 (folic acid)
* Vitamin B12 (various cobalamins; commonly cyanocobalamin in vitamin supplements)

one sign of B12 deficiency is ridges in your fingernails not a normal sign of aging like they told my Mom supplements could have helped her so much
what P&I says about blood sugar DH had this happen once on 2 different rounds the spoonful of sugar fixed him right up

Blood Sugar

Towards the end of a course or when a patient has nearly reached his normal weight it occasionally happens that the blood sugar drops below normal, and we have even seen this in patients who had an abnormally high blood sugar before treatment. Such an attack of hypoglycemia is almost identical with the one seen in diabetics who have taken too much insulin. The attack comes on suddenly; there is the same feeling of light-headedness, weakness in the knees, trembling, and unmotivated sweating; but under HCG, hypoglycemia does not produce any feeling of hunger. All these symptoms are almost instantly relieved by taking two heaped teaspoons of sugar.

In the course of treatment the possibility of such an attack is explained to those patients who are in a phase in which a drop in blood sugar may occur. They are instructed to keep sugar or glucose sweets handy, particularly when driving a car. They are also told to watch the effect of taking sugar very carefully and report the following day. This is important, because anxious patients to whom such an attack has been explained are apt to take sugar unnecessarily, in which case it inevitably produces a gain in weight and does not dramatically relieve the symptoms for which it was taken, proving that these were not due to hypoglycemia. Some patients mistake the effects of emotional stress for hypoglycemia. When the symptoms are quickly relieved by sugar this is proof that they were indeed due to an abnormal lowering of the blood sugar, and in that case there is no increase in the weight on the following day. We always suggest that sugar be taken if the patient is in doubt.

Once such an attack has been relieved with sugar we have never seen it recur on the immediately subsequent days, and only very rarely does a patient have two such attacks separated by several days during a course of treatment. In patients who have not eaten sufficiently during the first two days of treatment we sometimes give sugar when the minor symptoms usually felt during the first three days of treatment continue beyond that time, and in some cases this has seemed to speed up the euphoria ordinarily associated with the HCG method.

WHEW long post HTH

your losses are great and i hope you get to feeling better soon

[Gilded Lily]

Deb, thank you so much for taking the time to post that! It's so nice to know that people care enough to try and help.

I didn't realize someone gave you a hard time re. reading the old threads. I'm sorry that happened. But listen, pay no attention to those people, just speak your mind, girl. You have lots of valuable info and wisdom to impart. Why do you think I bugged you to death when I first started hcg? You were like 'who is this girl'?

I have read many, many of the monthly threads but didn't register the probiotics thing.

I am up to 7 potassium/day. I believe it is Dawn who is taking 8.

Funny you should mention the G2 Gatorade... my nephew just suggested that a couple of hours ago. I am seriously thinking of adding it in... protocol be hanged....

I am going to add a b12 tomorrow but I don't see any ridges in my nails. I hate hearing that your mom missed out on something that could have made her feel better.

I actually did try the spoonful of sugar the first time I had one of those attacks but it didn't help me. The next time I tried salt and it worked within 20 minutes or so. I carry sugar in my purse and I'm going to start carrying salt. I was going to suggest that your dh carry sugar, but I think I remember you saying he was at goal.

[shari]

I'm sorry you've been having such bad symptoms..no, it's not common. Looks like you've gotten very good suggestions. I hope they work for you!
I can definitely see how the gatorade would help tremendously.