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Old 02-09-2012, 11:25 AM   #511
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Have had gas and burping for last several days. I sometimes have burping after dinner, but seldom during the day. Took a little baking soda and it is a little better. I think it is either the norvasc or combination of norvasc and clonidine. Going to cut back to 5 mg of norvasc and more clonidine if necessary and see if that reduces gas.
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Old 02-09-2012, 05:13 PM   #512
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Was just reading that extremely low carbs causes high rt3 for some people. So I am going to up my carbs to around 50 g/day and see how I feel and if I still lose weight. The easiest way to do that is to add a small potato every day, so a potato it is.

Dr Kruse just posted about using cold and ice baths to help heal the metabolism. He has been doing it for a while and feels he is sure enough of the results to share the info. I asked if cold could be targeted, like an ice pack on the neck to target the thyroid and pituitary to reduce rt3 and he said yes. But he had a caveat that he had to first acclimate his body to cold before he could target. Anyway, I am going to try an ice pack on my neck for 15-20 minutes every night.
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I was down at least a lb going into today and something I ate yesterday caused me to put it back on. I made blackened chicken livers for dinner and used a lot of cajun seasoning. I'm guessing I had too much sodium.

Week 1 - 10 lb ... Week 8 - 2 lb . . . Week 15 - 1 lb
Week 2 - 4 lb ..... Week 9 - 0 lb . . . Week 16 - 2 lb
Week 3 - 2 lb ..... Week 10 - 4 lb . . Week 17 - 0 lb
Week 4 - 0 lb ..... Week 11 - 1 lb
Week 5 - 4 lb ..... Week 12 - 4 lb
Week 6 - 1 lb ..... Week 13 - 0 lb
Week 7 - 2 lb ..... Week 14 - 3 lb

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Total - - - 40 lb

Trying just 5 g norvasc and 1/4 clonidine as needed. Still have gas and burping. Tried frozen fish oil today because I thought my old fish oil might have gone bad. Didn't make any difference.
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:14 AM   #514
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Still having the burping and gas. Several things changed about the same time the gas started. I started eating 2 or 3 brazil nuts every day. I started eating some cacao nubs. I restarted iodine. I started taking norvasc. None of these jump out at me as the likely cause.

Need to research high blood pressure. The last few mornings, my blood pressure is near normal when I first get up. This is about 10 hours after taking medication which is supposed good for about 8 hours and in my experience, has only been good for 4-6 hours. So it seems to me that when asleep, my blood pressure comes down.

Then over the course of the day, it keeps getting higher and higher. Yesterday, I took 2 norvasc (max dose) plus 1/4 pill of clonidine about 5 times, and still had bp reach as high as 160/95. Exercising for about 10 minutes does bring it down fairly dramatically, but over the next hour or 2 it goes right back up.

So I need to understand what can cause high blood pressure and see if I can't resolve this. I have been doing some breathing exercises and sometimes see a short term drop in bp, but it doesn't last. Maybe over time the breathing will have a more lasting effect.

Also have not lost weight in 2 weeks. I increased carbs some and had too much cream the last few days. Will cut back carbs again and see if that gets me losing again. Doc warned me about exercising to hard before I get my bp under control, so I think I will stick to lawn work for now.
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:11 AM   #515
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Don't know what it means, but at least I have a clue. The last 2 mornings, my bp was around 133/80 a few minutes after getting up. About 10 minutes later, it is close to 150/90. What the heck can cause such a dramatic increase so quickly? I imagine some of it is just the fact it is harder to pump blood when the body is upright, but 17 points seems to be a large change.

Weight still not moving. I am right in the range where weight loss has stopped in the past. The old trap I set for myself was to reduce calories, further reduce carbs, and increase exercise. I think all that accomplishes is to kill my adrenals.

Dr K laid out a strategy of using cold to jumpstart the adrenals. I guess it's worth a try.

I think the iodine is helping. For the last 2 weeks, I have been taking iodine and kelp every morning. My sleep has improved and the last 2 nights, I didn't have any night time bathroom trips.

My bp pill strategy worked fairly well yesterday. Took 1 norvasc first thing. Then took 1/4 clonidine every 4 hours and an extra at bed time. So 1 1/4 clonidine. Exercise drops bp, but it doesn't last. Hopefully over time, the exercise and breathing will bring it down.

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Gas and burping not as bad. I think this is because I have had my 2 tbsp of coconut oil the last couple of days.

BP seems to be staying lower a little longer this morning. Took 1 norvasc and 1/4 clonidine. Then about noon, took 1/2 norvasc. BP is around 140/80. Had to take 1 1/2 clonidine yesterday, so trying to see if increasing norvasc will result in less needed clonidine.

Am starting to get some of the symptoms I usually get just before I get hit with cravings. Asked for suggestions over at mda on the leptin thread. Going to hit the coconut oil real hard and see if that makes any difference.
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:32 AM   #517
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Ate a lot of flax last night and had flax for breakfast. Body seemed to need it.

No cravings this morning but still have a slightly metallic taste. No help over at mda. Still waiting on Dpc's office to send me copy of labs. I think I need to find a new doc. Almost impossible to find one that actually knows how to deal with hormonal problems.
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Finally had a loss again. I think it might be that I got my coconut oil consumption back to what it was a couple of weeks ago.

Week 1 - 10 lb ... Week 8 - 2 lb . . . Week 15 - 1 lb
Week 2 - 4 lb ..... Week 9 - 0 lb . . . Week 16 - 2 lb
Week 3 - 2 lb ..... Week 10 - 4 lb . . Week 17 - 0 lb
Week 4 - 0 lb ..... Week 11 - 1 lb . . Week 18 - 2 lb
Week 5 - 4 lb ..... Week 12 - 4 lb
Week 6 - 1 lb ..... Week 13 - 0 lb
Week 7 - 2 lb ..... Week 14 - 3 lb

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Total - - - 42 lb

BP still driving me crazy. Between 3 and 9 pm, it really goes up a lot. Over night, it tends to come down.
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Yesterday, I took 1 norvasc in the morning and 1/2 about 3 pm and 1/2 around 6 pm. Was able to get by with just 3/4 clonidine.

So far today, I have taken 1 1/2 norvasc and no clonidine. BP is hovering around 150/88. Took Hawthorne, magnesium, and a hot bath to try to lower bp but can't get it any lower. Same with exercise, but am going to try exercise again. If it goes much higher, will have to take clonidine.

Did some vigorous yard work for about 30 minutes and bp came down to 138/82. Now to see how long I can keep the vigorous activity going.

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About 3 pm, I think I felt the last of the clonidine leave my body. It was like my body relaxed. Made it all the way until 8 pm without clonidine, then bp jumped way up 170/95. Took 1/4 clonidine and did 10 minutes on exercise bike and it came back down to 148/85. Will probably have to take another 1/4 before bed. Darn.

Still, this is the least amount of clonidine I have had to take, so the exercise and breathing seems to be working.
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3/4 clonidine yesterday and none yet today. Restarted dhea and I think it might be helping. Took 3 mg melatonin last night and it gave me a headache, so will cut a pill in half tonight. Trying to balance out my hormones.

Have to remember to keep eating 2 tbsp coconut oil every day. Seems to keep cravings away and cause weight loss.
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Took 1 g magnesium and 1 hawthorne pill and it brought down bp for a couple of hours. Now I'm drinking 2 tbsp acv in a glass of water to see if that helps. Many people report it does. If nothing else, it should help with digestion!

Food is going fine. Been having 2 flax waffles and 2 eggs for breakfast, Really fills me up enough that I just have 2 tbsp coconut oil and a fermented pickle for lunch.
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The acv seems to be helping. I have only taken 1 1/2 norvasc so far today. Took a magnesium pill a couple of hours ago and it dropped bp.

No more melatonin. Did 1/2 pill last night 1.5 mg and it still gave me a headache. Added 100 mg 7-keto back in along with 50 mg dhea. Didn't seem to cause any problems.

Doesn't seem to be any tension in my chest which I think is why bp is staying lower today. Could be the breathing or the exercise, but whatever it is, it seems to be helping.
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Note to myself about dhea. Going to skip tomorrow and see if energy level increases. Seems like since I have been taking it, I am low energy and motivation.

Still fighting bp. The ACV does seem to help. Last 3 days were 3/4, 1/4/ and 1/2 clonidine. None yet today, but will need 1/4 or 1/2 before bed. Ten minutes of exercise drops systolic substantially, but it immediately starts creeping back up.
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Weird week weight wise. Was down 2 lbs on Thursday and for some reason gained them both back by this morning. Can't think of anything I ate that should have caused that much water retention. Frustrating.

Week 1 - 10 lb ... Week 8 - 2 lb . . . Week 15 - 1 lb
Week 2 - 4 lb ..... Week 9 - 0 lb . . . Week 16 - 2 lb
Week 3 - 2 lb ..... Week 10 - 4 lb . . Week 17 - 0 lb
Week 4 - 0 lb ..... Week 11 - 1 lb . . Week 18 - 2 lb
Week 5 - 4 lb ..... Week 12 - 4 lb. . .Week 19 - 0 lb
Week 6 - 1 lb ..... Week 13 - 0 lb
Week 7 - 2 lb ..... Week 14 - 3 lb

Total : 42 lb

Skipped dhea this morning and still have fatigue. Still waiting on my darn doctor to get me the results of my last lab test. It has been almost 4 weeks. I need to do some more labs but until I see the results of this one, I am really in the dark.

Dr K says he has used cold to treat high blood pressure with some of his patients. His father-in-law is now off all bp medications, so cold baths and ice packs, here I come.
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No dhea today and didn't have fatigue, so maybe it is the dhea (again). I was only taking 50 mg this time instead of 100 mg, but still seems to wipe me out.

Tried Dr K's cold bath and failed big time. I lasted only 5 minutes and the water wasn't even down to 60 degrees. Later tried a warm shower to cold and still couldn't handle really cold water. Hopefully my body will adjust if I keep trying.

Made it until 12 noon without any prescription bp meds. Took 1 norvasc about noon and 1/2 around 6. Will probably take another 1/2 at bedtime. This is the 1st day I didn't have to take any clonidine, so it took me a little over 3 weeks to get of it. Might still need to take some from time to time, but at least the chemical link seems to be broken.

The grape seed extract/hawthorne, magnesium, and acv really seems to be helping. BP just barely went over 150/85 a couple of times today and then came right back down.
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No dhea today and didn't have fatigue, so maybe it is the dhea (again). I was only taking 50 mg this time instead of 100 mg, but still seems to wipe me out.

Tried Dr K's cold bath and failed big time. I lasted only 5 minutes and the water wasn't even down to 60 degrees. Later tried a warm shower to cold and still couldn't handle really cold water. Hopefully my body will adjust if I keep trying.

Made it until 12 noon without any prescription bp meds. Took 1 norvasc about noon and 1/2 around 6. Will probably take another 1/2 at bedtime. This is the 1st day I didn't have to take any clonidine, so it took me a little over 3 weeks to get of it. Might still need to take some from time to time, but at least the chemical link seems to be broken.

The grape seed extract/hawthorne, magnesium, and acv really seems to be helping. BP just barely went over 150/85 a couple of times today and then came right back down.
Too quick to post above. I had to take 1/4 clonidine about 9 pm to get bp down. Think I need to overlap norvasc a little more.
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Same problems with BP. Can keep in under control until about 6 pm and then I have to take anywhere from 1/4 to a whole clonidine. Morning BP is also strange, Some mornings it is barely above normal and sometimes in the 140's/xx. Some mornings when it is in the higher range, it comes down after taking vitamins. Stays down for about an hour and then starts climbing back up.

Weight loss has really slowed down, but at least it is continuing to move down.
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Strange BP readings today. As usual it was a little high when I got up and steadily rose until about 11 am when I took 1 norvasc. Now 7 hours later, BP is still around 125/80. This has never happened before. Usually by this time I have had to take an additional norvasc and at least 1/4 clonidine. Actually had a reading about an hour ago that was 117/77.

I sure hope this is an indication BP problem is resolved. That would be amazing.
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Only had to take 1 norvasc and 1/4 clonidine yesterday. That is about 1/2 of what I had been taking. I did change 1 supplement yesterday, so maybe that is what is making the difference. I changed from CoQ10 to Ubiquinol which is the active form of CoQ10. Both are supposed to help lower bp, so maybe that is what made the difference. Going to try 200 mg in morning and another 100 mg about 8-10 hours later. From what I have read, it stays in the blood for about 8 hours.

Also read that green tea extract can cause drowsiness, so going to take egcg at night instead of in the morning.

Three pound loss for the week. February was only 5 lb.

Week 1 - 10 lb ... Week 8 - 2 lb . . . Week 15 - 1 lb
Week 2 - 4 lb ..... Week 9 - 0 lb . . . Week 16 - 2 lb
Week 3 - 2 lb ..... Week 10 - 4 lb . . Week 17 - 0 lb
Week 4 - 0 lb ..... Week 11 - 1 lb . . Week 18 - 2 lb
Week 5 - 4 lb ..... Week 12 - 4 lb. . .Week 19 - 0 lb
Week 6 - 1 lb ..... Week 13 - 0 lb. . .Week 20 - 3 lb
Week 7 - 2 lb ..... Week 14 - 3 lb

Total : 45 lb
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It wasn't the ubiquinol. Don't know why bp stayed low for 1 day. Last 2 days it has been high again. I do know when I do yard work, it drops about 20 points, but when I stop, bp starts moving right back up again.

Trying the cold baths. First time I could only handle 79 degrees. Today I did 70. Need to get down into 50's. Dr K says it takes about 3 weeks to get cold acclimated. Supposedly, among other things, it increases weight loss.
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BP has been staying down in morning and last 2 days until late afternoon when it finally goes over 145 systolic. The norvasc doesn't seem to do much at that point. Take 1 norvasc about 5 or 6 pm and then 1/2 clonidine about 8 pm. BP is around 150/90 when I first get up, but within 15 minutes has dropped to around 130/80.

I am taking less than 1/2 the dosage I was taking just 2 weeks ago. I think the breathing exercises are helping. I started doing a breathing exercise the "iceman" does to prepare for diving underwater. Breath in to stomach, hold for 5 or 6 seconds, blow out like you are blowing up a balloon. I can lower my bp to below 120/80 by doing this for a few minutes. It doesn't stay that low very long, but it does seem to have an accumulative effect.

Scales are weird this morning, but I am claiming 2 lbs for this week. It will work out next week if I am off.

Week 1 - 10 lb ... Week 8 - 2 lb . . . Week 15 - 1 lb
Week 2 - 4 lb ..... Week 9 - 0 lb . . . Week 16 - 2 lb
Week 3 - 2 lb ..... Week 10 - 4 lb . . Week 17 - 0 lb
Week 4 - 0 lb ..... Week 11 - 1 lb . . Week 18 - 2 lb
Week 5 - 4 lb ..... Week 12 - 4 lb. . .Week 19 - 0 lb
Week 6 - 1 lb ..... Week 13 - 0 lb. . .Week 20 - 3 lb
Week 7 - 2 lb ..... Week 14 - 3 lb. . .Week 21 - 2 lb

Total : 47 lb
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I have been able to keep bp down until about 8 pm by using mag, coq10, l-arginine, and hawthorne. Last night I took 1/2 clonidine and no norvasc. That is the least amount of prescription drugs in several months. This also might be related to changing my prenenolone to a different manufacturer. Since changing, my energy is up and I am staying active most of the day. As long as I stay active. BP is not a problem.

No weight loss this week, but no problem. As long as I can lose 5 or 6 lbs a months, I will take it.

Week 1 - 10 lb ... Week 8 - 2 lb . . . Week 15 - 1 lb . . . Week 22 - 0 lb
Week 2 - 4 lb ..... Week 9 - 0 lb . . . Week 16 - 2 lb
Week 3 - 2 lb ..... Week 10 - 4 lb . . Week 17 - 0 lb
Week 4 - 0 lb ..... Week 11 - 1 lb . . Week 18 - 2 lb
Week 5 - 4 lb ..... Week 12 - 4 lb. . .Week 19 - 0 lb
Week 6 - 1 lb ..... Week 13 - 0 lb. . .Week 20 - 3 lb
Week 7 - 2 lb ..... Week 14 - 3 lb. . .Week 21 - 2 lb

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I think I have the BP problem almost licked. For the last several days, I take 1/2 clonidine about an hour before bedtime. The rest of the day I do OK with just Hawthorne, magnesium, etc. It seems that every few days, it is even later at night before bp starts going up, so I'm hoping to soon wean off the last 1/2 clonidine. The norvasc doesn't seem to do much at all, so I rarely take it any more.

One thing that is really interesting is that I can drop my bp about 20 points just by taking 3 or 4 belly breaths. Just breath in so my stomach is extended and breath out. BP only stays that low for a few minutes, but I think it has a cumulative effect.

Still trying cold thermogenics. Can only handle about 70 degree baths so far, but follow that up with ice packs for a couple of hours. I know it is helping detox as I had 2 pimple breakout on my forehead.

Also experimenting with pregnenolone dose. I starting taking the micronized version and had a week of felling great, lots of energy, mood improved, but trouble sleeping. Reduced dose - no change, didn't take ay 1 day - no energy, but still not sleeping well. Starting 1/4 dose - no improvement, 1/2 dose - no improvement, and today I took a full dose. Too early to tell if it makes a difference. May take a few days at full dose to see if it was the pregnenolone that gave me the energy or was it something else.

Lost 3 lbs this week. Scale is moving up and down and I don't know why, but I keep seeing a fairly steady downward movement, so I'm fine with that.

Week 1 - 10 lb ... Week 8 - 2 lb . . . Week 15 - 1 lb . . . Week 22 - 0 lb
Week 2 - 4 lb ..... Week 9 - 0 lb . . . Week 16 - 2 lb . . . Week 23 - 3 lb
Week 3 - 2 lb ..... Week 10 - 4 lb . . Week 17 - 0 lb
Week 4 - 0 lb ..... Week 11 - 1 lb . . Week 18 - 2 lb
Week 5 - 4 lb ..... Week 12 - 4 lb. . .Week 19 - 0 lb
Week 6 - 1 lb ..... Week 13 - 0 lb. . .Week 20 - 3 lb
Week 7 - 2 lb ..... Week 14 - 3 lb. . .Week 21 - 2 lb

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Did a bp experiment last night. Took sitting bp and then stood up and took bp. It dropped about 20 points. From what I read, that indicates low aldosterone, so one more lab I need to get done. Recommendation is to drink a glass of water with sea salt every morning. Was doing that but stopped for no good reason.

BP was 126/80 this morning. This is the best morning reading I have had in a couple of years. Need to restart acl every day and be more structured with my breathing exercises. I hope to have bp under control without prescription meds by end of April.

Have been taking full dose of pregnenolone (150 mg) for 5 days and still have not seen an increase in energy, so now I have no idea what caused me to feel good a couple of weeks ago.

Doc's office called and doc wanted to put me on t3 for my high rt3. Since I have had high rt3 for 3 years, and it has been coming down, I have no idea why the sudden need for me to take t3. Nurse didn't have a clue so I said no until I discuss it with doc at next appointment.
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BP is staying down a little longer, but getting harder to get down when it finally goes up. Now it is about 8:30 pm before it goes over 150/xx.

By Tuesday of this week, I was down 3 lbs. Then for some reason, it started going back up, so I only show 1 lb loss for the week and 6 lbs for the month. Frustrating.

Week 1 - 10 lb ... Week 8 - 2 lb . . . Week 15 - 1 lb . . . Week 22 - 0 lb
Week 2 - 4 lb ..... Week 9 - 0 lb . . . Week 16 - 2 lb . . . Week 23 - 3 lb
Week 3 - 2 lb ..... Week 10 - 4 lb . . Week 17 - 0 lb . . . Week 24 - 1 lb
Week 4 - 0 lb ..... Week 11 - 1 lb . . Week 18 - 2 lb
Week 5 - 4 lb ..... Week 12 - 4 lb. . .Week 19 - 0 lb
Week 6 - 1 lb ..... Week 13 - 0 lb. . .Week 20 - 3 lb
Week 7 - 2 lb ..... Week 14 - 3 lb. . .Week 21 - 2 lb

Total: 51 lb

Had 1 day of good energy and thought I was back on track, but next day - no energy again. So it may not have been the pregnenolone after all.
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Old 03-30-2012, 12:20 PM   #537
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Slept through the night for the 1st time in years. No bathroom trips. No waking up and being unable to get back to sleep. I changed taking zinc from morning to bedtime, and that seemed to solve the cortisol problem. So far just 1 night, so need a week or so to see if this fixes sleep problem.
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Old 04-01-2012, 02:53 PM   #538
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Slept through night again. So far, 2 out of 4 nights since I switched zinc to bedtime.

Last night it was 10 pm before I needed bp meds. Only took 1/4 pill. As long as my heart rate stays above 95, bp stays way down. I've noticed that if I sit down and just relax for 10 or 15 minutes, bp is much lower than if I test as soon as I sit down.
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FBG was 90 this morning, so my last 2 readings were both 90. Lowest in many years.
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Old 04-06-2012, 04:37 AM   #540
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BP still an issue. Had to take 1/2 pill at 6 pm, probably because I wasn't that active all day, then 1/4 at bedtime.

Weight is up and down. At one point during the week, I was down 4 lbs, but at my Friday weigh in I was only down 1. Same thing happened last week. Hopefully there is a 3 or 4 lb loss coming up.


Week 1 - 10 lb ... Week 8 - 2 lb . . . Week 15 - 1 lb . . . Week 22 - 0 lb
Week 2 - 4 lb ..... Week 9 - 0 lb . . . Week 16 - 2 lb . . . Week 23 - 3 lb
Week 3 - 2 lb ..... Week 10 - 4 lb . . Week 17 - 0 lb . . . Week 24 - 1 lb
Week 4 - 0 lb ..... Week 11 - 1 lb . . Week 18 - 2 lb . . . Week 25 - 1 lb
Week 5 - 4 lb ..... Week 12 - 4 lb. . .Week 19 - 0 lb
Week 6 - 1 lb ..... Week 13 - 0 lb. . .Week 20 - 3 lb
Week 7 - 2 lb ..... Week 14 - 3 lb. . .Week 21 - 2 lb
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Total: 52 lbs
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