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Old 11-23-2011, 11:10 AM   #391
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Energy still moderate. Without planning it, went outside and raked up 3 tarps full of leaves and dragged them to rear lot. About 2 hours of fairly strenuous work.

Blood pressure comes down in morning after taking bp herbs and magnesium. Stay OK until mid afternoon. Then 1 pill is all it takes to get back to normal.
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Old 11-25-2011, 04:55 AM   #392
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Looks like I broke out of the extreme fatigue cycle I was in. This makes a little over a week of having moderate energy. A couple of pretty good days and the rest just OK. Also, blood pressure had dropped some. Instead of taking medication 3 times a day, only have to take it mid afternoon. Natural remedies keep it low in morning, but it starts rising about 3 pm.

Food was OK this week. Ate a little too many carbs yesterday, but they weren't bad carbs. Lost 1 lb for the week, which I am fine with. Trying to remember to eat liver at least once a week.

Going to research inflammation and see what I can do to get this lowered asap. If Dr K is right, this is a major key to restarting metabolism.

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Old 11-27-2011, 07:58 AM   #393
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Started getting dizzy whenever I bent over and then stood up. This is not normal. I rarely if ever get dizzy.

Checked bp and it was just a little high - 133/90 - so I took a half dose of bp medication. After half hour it was down to 128/83.

Also, glucose was high - 120 - 2 hours after eggs, bacon, and coffee. This breakfast usually causes much less of a spike. Checked 30 minutes later and it is down to 115. Still too high. Dinner last night was lettuce with chunks of roast chicken and some ranch dressing. Need to check glucose after eating ranch dressing and see if that might be what caused the spike. Still get a little dizzy bending over/straightening up, but not as much as an hour ago.

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Old 11-28-2011, 09:48 AM   #394
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No dizziness today. Blood pressure was OK this morning and blood glucose was a little high.

The last few days, I have been sleeping better than I have in months. Something is working! I still sleep in 3-4 hour blocks, but am able to fall back to sleep without too much trouble.
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:56 PM   #395
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Some danger signs today.

Sleep wasn't good last night.
Blood glucose was a little elevated yesterday and today
Blood pressure was elevated yesterday and today
Eyes feel tired
Not hungry but eating anyway

Hope I get this under control before cravings kick in. Going to try glutamine and extra chromium and see if that helps.
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Took a couple of excedrin pm to make sure I slept last night. Got about 6 hours straight. No hunger this morning. Eyes are a little better. Morning bp was OK. No cravings. Looks like I made it through this time.
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Got through the week in good shape. Eyes still seen tired. Was reading on Dr K's site that A and D go together and that when you supplement D it can cause problems with A. So I need to pick up some vitamin A next week and see if that helps. Also make sure I eat liver twice a week.

Sleep is slowly improving. Usually fall asleep with 1/2 hour and sleeping for about 5-6 hours straight. Then usually able to go back to sleep for another hour or 2.

Promised myself I would start doing Qi Gong in December, so need to start TODAY. Inflammation seems to be the key to healing and Qi Gong is supposed to help reduce inflammation.

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Eyes still tired, plus upset stomach plus not sleeping well and energy down. Been eating exactly the same, taking same vitamins, nothing has changed.

Ordered vitamin for eyes. Going to increase coconut oil stay away from chicken for a few days.

Going to replace plastic pitcher and glasses with real glass. Last month replaced nonstick frying pan with cast iron. Also need to replace microwave containers with glass.
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Eyes still tired, plus upset stomach plus not sleeping well and energy down. Been eating exactly the same, taking same vitamins, nothing has changed.

Ordered vitamin for eyes. Going to increase coconut oil stay away from chicken for a few days.

Going to replace plastic pitcher and glasses with real glass. Last month replaced nonstick frying pan with cast iron. Also need to replace microwave containers with glass.
Took some 5-htp and feel much better. Just a note to remind me to try 5-htp next time.
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Finally remembered to check blood glucose 1st thing in morning. It was 116. That doesn't make sense because I was very low carb yesterday. Rechecked and it was 117.

Also my vision is more blurry this morning than usual.
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Finally remembered to check blood glucose 1st thing in morning. It was 116. That doesn't make sense because I was very low carb yesterday. Rechecked and it was 117.

Also my vision is more blurry this morning than usual.
And BP was higher than usual in early am. Brain starting to think about other foods. No cravings yet.

What changed? Took 5-htp and tyrosine yesterday and this morning. Also had extra tblsp of coconut oil yesterday. All food was what I normally eat.
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Made it through the week fine. Eyes seem better since starting the lutein. Saw acupuncturist yesterday. It's amazing how quickly he can make a pain go away. When I started about 6 weeks ago, I had a lot of shoulder pain. That's gone. Then I started having pain in elbow. He worked on that and it is much less painful all ready. Blood pressure is down, but not sure if that is acupuncture or diet. Maybe both.

One thing I have noticed is blood pressure drops dramatically after soaking in a hot epson salt bath for 20 minutes. Fasting blood glucose was 104 this morning. BP was about 130/78.

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Lutein Esters - for eyes
Choline & Inositol - brain health

Week 1 - 10 lb
Week 2 - 4 lb
Week 3 - 2 lb
Week 4 - 0 lb
Week 5 - 4 lb
Week 6 - 1 lb
Week 7 - 2 lb
Week 8 - 2 lb
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Total - - 25 lb

Checking on last try, I had 2 lb gain in week 8 and then completely overwhelmed with cravings in week 10, so I am in the danger one.

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Headache last night and still have it this morning. Also bp was elevated this morning. Woke up at 5 am and couldn't get back to sleep.

Dr. K has me thinking about a hot tub. Posted a question on Dr K's blog and got a non answer. Either that or I just haven't learned how to interpret him yet.
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Fasting blood glucose was 99 this morning, so some good news. Blood pressure was high and had to take medication in morning. Eyes still feel tired, maybe not quite as bad.

Bought 40 lbs of pasture raised beef, so now need to get eggs, butter, bacon, chicken, and yogurt.
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Trouble sleeping again last night. Also feel very blah. Eyes hurt. Legs feel like I have been jogging.

I took excedrin migraine for a headache a couple of times a few days ago and then received an email saying it had been recalled, but didn't say why. Need to check it out. Looks like not a big problem. Bottle may contain other Excedrin products.

I have been eating clean for about 2 months so I shouldn't be getting headaches anyway.
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Sleep was a little better last night. Tried melatonin instead of benedryl. BP was high this morning. Tried epson slats bath but that didn't bring it down like it usually does. Took pill and only brought it down a little.

Energy was a little better yesterday and today than it has been for the last few weeks. Only significant change I made was dinner both nights was organic meats.
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BP was high yesterday and had to take 2 pills. Then about 6 pm was so tired I was falling asleep on couch so went to bed. Woke up a couple hours later, got up for about 30 minutes, and then went back to bed. BP was still a little high this morning (and so was bg).

No weight loss this week and eating was all on plan. I feel like I lost, but scales don't show it.

Week 1 - 10 lb
Week 2 - 4 lb
Week 3 - 2 lb
Week 4 - 0 lb
Week 5 - 4 lb
Week 6 - 1 lb
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Have been hungry the last 2 days. It seems to correspond to when I switched from regular bacon to nitrate free bacon. I think I'll try a steak instead of bacon and see how that works.
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Over the years, a lot of people had posted about how good food tasted after being on low carb for a while. That never happened to me in almost 10 years, until tonight.

Put a shoulder roast in over and cooked for 4 hours at 275. After 3 hours I added carrots, green pepper, onion, and a little garlic. Also boiled some rutabaga and fixed like mashed potatoes. I savored every single bite and found myself slowing down so that I could enjoy the flavors between bites.

I think it was several things that all came together. I have been doing low carb for almost 3 months, the leptin reset for about 8 weeks, and eating grass fed beef, pastured butter, etc for about a week. The would be wonderful if I really start to taste food.
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Motivation has been real good for last few days - as opposed to months of none at all.

Had a strange thought while waiting to get blood drawn this morning. I have always thought of myself as a fat guy trying to lose weight.

For some reason, this morning I felt like a normal weight guy trapped in a fat body.
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This is the 2nd time I have gone from 0 lb one week to 4 lb the next. Fine with me.

Been having a slight headache starting early evening. This time it carried over to this morning. Have no idea what is causing it. I read where Dr K suggests eating some CO for headaches so will try that and see if it helps.

Had leg pain at night a couple of nights this week. Read where it might be a potassium deficiency so had some lite salt yesterday and no leg pain last night. Have to remember to keep using a little lite salt every day.

Been reading the leptin reset thread on MDA. I'm up to page 295 and that's about 1/3 of the way through the thread. Some fantastic info buried in there, but you have to read through 40-50 pages of garbage to find one nugget!

So far, I think the leptin rx may be the silver bullet I have been looking for. I'm losing weight at the same pace I normally do, about 2 lbs a week, but in 10 weeks I have had very little hunger and ZERO cravings. And the hunger is a good hunger because I rarely eat lunch, so getting hungry 7 hours after breakfast is a good thing.

I still am not sleeping through the night, but I am going to bed earlier and falling asleep much earlier than in the past. One thing Dr K recommended to someone is dhea for sleep problems. Mine is low and my doc had me taking 50 mg/day. Dr K recommended 100 mg, so I am taking 50 mg morning and 50 mg mid-day. Too early to say if it is helping.

Added some new supplements primarily for adrenal fatigue.

Week 1 - 10 lb
Week 2 - 4 lb
Week 3 - 2 lb
Week 4 - 0 lb
Week 5 - 4 lb
Week 6 - 1 lb
Week 7 - 2 lb
Week 8 - 2 lb
Week 9 - 0 lb
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Energy dropped off the last couple of days. Might be related to weather which went from sunny to overcast and drizzle.

Was hungry and ate a lot today. Had flax pancakes this morning and that might be what triggered the hunger. Ate them 3 or 4 weeks ago, but have been very low carb for breakfast since then. Think I might have had a little bg spike. Then I had lunch, which I had planned on skipping, and ate too big a dinner. Everything was on plan, just too much. Tomorrow is back to big, high protein, low carb breakfast.

Got labs back. Did pregnenolone and hs-crp. Surprised that hs-crp was as good as it was. HS-crp is a measure of inflamation and you want a score <1. Mine was .85 mg/L which puts me in low risk for cardiovascular event. I have no idea what the pregnenolone results mean. I got a 16 ng/dL with a reference of <151. It seems to me that is a meaningless range. I need to know what the range should be for a male my age, not for all adults.

Also have a diurnal cortisol and a omega6/3 lab coming in the mail.
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I get a headache almost every afternoon or early evening. Most days it is dull but sometimes killer. I read on another board to take some magnesium and eat some coconut oil. I did and within half hour headache was gone.

Eating got out of sink today. Probably OK on calories and food was all on plan, just ate at 4 times instead of 3. Roast chicken was ready at 2pm and just had to have a piece while it was hot. It wasn't enough to kill appetite for dinner.

Read something today that said won't be able to get leptin sensitive until adrenals are fixed. Need to start Qi Qong tomorrow and see if that will hurry things along.

Stopped taking adaptogens. Last day was 12/25. Need about 10-14 days clean before I do the cortisol test.

Just had a great idea. I am going to put together a list of the labs I want the doc to do and email it to her. Ask if I can have the blood drawn next week so she and I will have my results for my appointment later in the month.
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Headache came back, not really surprised. Usually it stays around until I take something for it.

FBG was 114 this morning. I ate some yogurt with dinner last night, but nothing else that should have caused bg to be high. I need to figure this out.

Changed my mind about labs. Going to wait until Jan 30 to have blood drawn. Probably a good idea to get another month of primal eating and supplements before I test. Also going to change from 7-keto to dhea as I need both dhea and testosterone to increase.
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FBG at 8:30 pm was 86. FBG at 6 am was 106. I have read it make takes years for the morning fbg to come down to evening level.

Someone pointed out that Holy Basil is to lower cortisol, not raise it, so need to stop taking it. Will also double check the other adaptogens to make sure they raise cortisol.

Received a couple of lab results:

Pregnenolone 16 <151
So it is low and probable needs supplementing. Will discuss with doc.

HS-CRP .85 < 1.0 Low Risk for Future Cardiovascular Event
Was surprised by this good reading. Might be from all the flax I eat.

Also received kits for Omega 6/3 ratio and diurnal cortisol labs. Will do next Monday.

Week 1 - 10 lb
Week 2 - 4 lb
Week 3 - 2 lb
Week 4 - 0 lb
Week 5 - 4 lb
Week 6 - 1 lb
Week 7 - 2 lb
Week 8 - 2 lb
Week 9 - 0 lb
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Finished reading the big leptin reset thread at MDA. I learned more about hormones and nutrition in that thread than all I have learned over the last 10 years.

The bad news is it will most likely take a long while to repair my hormones, and I don't have a long time.
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Headaches seem to correlate with bp.

Yesterday was totally strange. The reset has resulted in waking up between 4 and 6 am. 6 is fine, 4 is not. Yesterday I woke up at 4 am and was wide awake. Took 100 mg of dhea for 1st time. Had been taking 100 mg of 7-keto with no problem.

Late morning I started feeling overwhelming fatigue and weakness. BP was fine. Ate some chicken broth for lunch. Did a little work, but was really struggling with fatigue.

Tried to get in a nap. Slept for maybe 2 hours. Had zero appetite so skipped dinner. Went to bed around 10 and woke up again at 4 am. Skipped the dhea and 7-keto this morning. Still fatigued with little appetite.

The only other change was I started taking saw palmetto 2 days ago. Need to check symptoms for that. Checked dhea and my symptoms didn't match up.

Weakness and fainting are listed as side effects. Will skip it tomorrow and see if I feel better.
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Had an upset stomach last night and this morning. I think it had to do with eating 5 day old chicken.

BP was sky high this morning - 177/94. Took 1 pill and it dropped to 134/84. Strange. Doing the diurnal cortisol and omega 6/3 ration labs today.

Still was tired yesterday. Took the dhea, but not saw palmetto this morning. Will see if this causes more fatigue or not.

Going to reread Dr K's post on leaky gut. I think that might be key to most of my problems. I am not getting the benefits of all the nutrients I put into my body. So that's going to be my focus for january.
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might be easy to chat here instead of asking on the Thyroid bb....

will have to try and find that thread you mentioned. I saw a few.. which date.

In all these supplements you've been trying, whose suggesting them.. Doc or are you just trying to find something that works?
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will have to try and find that thread you mentioned. I saw a few.. which date.

In all these supplements you've been trying, whose suggesting them.. Doc or are you just trying to find something that works?
My doc has suggested some supplements over the years, but I haven't gotten any better. I did some research and added others, but still wasn't getting better. Then, this time around with low carb, I found the info on leptin reset and started that. The description matched perfectly what I had been trying to explain to my doctor for 3 years.

Dr. K is a neurosurgeon who weighed about 350 lb and was in bad health. Through one of those life changing experiences, he was turned on to the research done by, I believe, Biogen on leptin. He spent time in the research library and taking courses in aging and nutrition and started fixing himself. He's now about 200 lbs. Then his patients asked how he had done it and he started fixing them. Now he requires his surgery patients go through the process before he will do surgery on them.

He thought what he had learned was so important he started a web site to teach other people what he had learned. The basic process is easy. The science behind it is much harder as you are using your circadian cycle to rewire your brain, so his writing is full of medical and scientific terminology.

He makes it clear that simply resetting leptin sensitivity is not enough for most people because they also need to fix their hormone problems. Over time, many hormone problems might self correct, but people usually don't want to wait years.

There is a huge thread over at mda where people on the leptin reset have shared information about which labs to get, what supplements work for different things, when are hormones appropriate, etc. So there is a huge amount of feedback as people try different things - sometimes with the encouragement and partnership of their doctor, and sometimes without.

What is so amazing about the thread is that these people are like me. They have tried diet after diet and after losing a fair amount, either plateaued or had overwhelming cravings. Eating the big azz breakfast (bab) kills cravings. Here's the name of the thread, but I probably will get a warning if I post the link. The thread is Leptin Reset Experiment starts today - Jack Kruse style at marksdailyapple.

I am in my danger area right now, based on past experience, but I think I'm good. I'm at 273 right now and I have only been able to get lower than this twice in the last 4 years. One lower weight I should reach by the end of January and the next by end of Feb.

One woman had to do the process 3 or 4 times, each time lasting a little longer, before the cravings went away. People talk about becoming leptin sensitive and then buying an ice cream cone, taking a bite or 2, and then throwing it away. Same thing with desserts and bread. One or 2 bites and then stop.

But the hangup is hormones. Even the doctors that treat hormones, often do it in a vacuum. For example, they treat the thyroid problem and ignore the adrenal problem. In my case, I have very low cortisol, high rt3, and low pregnenolone, dhea, testosterone, and probably more. My doc never even had a pregnenolone lab run. I did it on my own. Same with cortisol.

I have read that eating primal is good for raising testosterone, so I went primal in December, I increased my dosage of dhea, which should also raise testosterone, take several adaptogens plus iodine (seaweed), selenium, zinc, increased b vitamins plus extra b6 and b12 for adrenals, added digestive enzymes and hcl at each meal to make sure I get the nutrients from the food, and on and on. In total, I think I am taking about 40 supplements.

And that's why I think a lot of newbies are just going to make things worse. They will low carb for 2 or 3 month, over exercise, put a lot of stress on their bodies, go back to their SAD diets, get frustrated, repeat, repeat. And all the time they are making their hormonal problems worse and worse to the point they will most likely need hormone replacement, if they don't already.

I'm just mad that the medical community has let us down.
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