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Old 10-10-2007, 12:41 PM   #1
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Narrow is the road. . .

. . to losing weight!! At least it was for me!

I have come a long way since doing lc. I never thought I'd be able to continue on with this way of eating/living!

All my life I have dieted, to no avail. It seems that when I get to a certain point in my weight loss that I start to feel good about myself, I do the dirty deed! I go to a fast food place and grab a burger and fry, THINKING, that one is not going to hurt me!
Well, one leads to another and another! I tried to justify it by thinking, that since my clothes still felt good, I could continue eating like this and nothing will happen. Not! I got caught up in my own desires and I couldn't stop!

Pretty soon I got up to 243, that is the highest I had ever been. I didn't want to be at that weight, but I still would eat. I would always make myself think, "oh I don't look that bad, I can eat what I want." Not!

How many times have I tried to justify my actions over and over again. It got to be mentally tiring, but I didn't quit. My self-esteem was at an all time low. I didn't want to leave the house, I ordered everything online, I wouldn't even go to my mil house to visit. I mean it was just an ongoing thing with me. It took alot for me to even go to the grocery store. I would feel embarrassed to even look at anything sweet, thinking I was being stared at!
I was a prisoner in my own body, yet I wouldn't do anything about it.
I used to have thoughts of suicide, but I knew that ultimately, that was not the answer. But when was I going to realize that I could not go on this way and eat the way I have been. What was it going to take!! It's crazy!
I would always think, why did I have to heavy, why couldn't I have been thin? Why? Why? Why?
I could go on and on, but the fact is, no one was to blame but me!

I'm the one who put the food in my mouth because I just love food! It comforted me, it became my lover, friend, whatever you want to call it, food was there for me! I know this sounds silly, but it's true! I have no excuse for the size I got, it's just lack of self-control and no respect for my body.

I watched a movie called Fatso with Dom Deluise, if anyone has seen it, it has such truth in it. He was an emotional eater, from birth until he was an adult. It was funny and sad, but I could totally relate to him at that time.

But, that was then . .
. . . . .this is now!

I am going strong in my woe, I feel that everything is going the way it's supposed to. My weight loss is not fast, and not slow but it's going at the right pace.

I won't be "anxious for nothing", but I'll be patient with myself and know that I can't control my body. I can only control what I put in my mouth.

If I just continue on this path I'm going, the I'll reap the results! I feel confident about myself now, not in the way I did before, but with more humility, knowing that at anytime I could fall and go back to my old woe. But I thank God, that I haven't, and that He is keeping me strong and on this right path.

Even though I'm not at my goal weight yet, I still feel good!
I also have to give a lot of credit to this place. I'm so happy to have found this place. Having the support, encouragment, motivation and inspiration from others here has also helped tremendously!
I can't thank anyone enough for the encouragment!

Oh I have to credit my husband too, he has been one big support for me. He loves me no matter what I looked like or what size I was. I can't ask for more than that!!

I'm on this path, and I'm going to make it! As long as I humbly walk on in it, I'll do just fine!!

So don't give up Ladies, we're going to all make it!
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:16 PM   #2
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I have finally started losing again!
I have been using my elliptical for about 20 minutes a day, sometimes twice a day, 20 minutes in the morning and 20 when I get home from work.

I've been eating fat and protein with some vegetables and salads. But I'm still not getting enough carbs from the veggies and salad!
It's hard to eat a lot of greens.

What ever I'm doing it's working, I've lost the 5 lbs I have been working on for the past 2 months! What an accomplishment!

TOM is over with, which has helped in my losing weight too. That's another thing, I hadn't had TOM for about 3 or 4 months. I sure didn't miss it, but now I'm glad I did have it. I feel almost "normal" in a way.

I'm just going to continue on with what I'm doing and hopefully reach my goal of 190 in time for Christmas.

Uggh! I just had a square of that Lindt chocolate 85% and it ran right through me. It's giving me the cramps! I know it's the sugar alcohol in it, but it has never affected me before. Oh well!

I'll post more when I've lost 5lbs.
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:22 PM   #3
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Hi there! I like the title of your journal and thought I'd peek in to see how you're doing. It looks like you're making great strides. Boy do I wish I had started with you back in April. I'm in my first week of induction and I'd love to have a few months under my belt by now - but - the important thing is that I have started and I can take great inspiration from folks like you. Keep up the great work!
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:49 PM   #4
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Hi Diana, , nice to meet ya!!
Guess what? My name is Diana too! LOL!

Thanks for reading, you can come by anytime you want and comment, I don't mind.

Basically, this is the longest I've ever done a particular way of eating. What's interesting is that I was always unsure of what I was going to eat and how much to eat. But things just come naturally now, I know what I shouldn't eat, even though some things are allowable, that doesn't mean it's gonna help me lose. You know what I mean?

I hope you will have as much success as I have been having, and if you need encouragement, feel free to post me!!!

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Old 10-12-2007, 04:54 PM   #5
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Your are doing great! It's good to have a supportive spouse too, that makes a big difference, when they are bringing you candy......not good! I know on low carb big loses can be normal, but i think 5 lbs in 2 months is ok! If it stays off that is all that matters. My first kick at lc i lost FAST. This time it's taken me 5 months to drop 20, but with the exception of the odd pound it's staying off. You'll get there, you're only 5 pounds from ONEderland!!
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:15 PM   #6
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Yeah. . .that's right Lulu Belle, I hadn't looked at that! I was so focused on getting to 200, that I just kind of forgot about the 199, lol!

So close, I'll get there!

Thanks for the encouragment, I really appreciate that!!!

Have a Great Weekend!
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:41 AM   #7
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Hi there fellow Diana! Just dropping in to sprinkle well wishes as you work on those 5 pounds. I bet you'll get there before thanksgiving. *crosses fingers*

I could use some ideas for weekday breakfast. Any breakfast tips would be fantastic. Also, I did get a little snack attack late last night. I just had water and went to sleep, but do you have any suggestions. Thanks!!!
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:34 AM   #8
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Hi Diana!

Good Morning to Ya!

Thanks, those 5lbs didn't come easy, I had to break down and and started exercising! LOL

For breakfast I do the same thing every week. I go to Linda's Low Carb Menus and Recipes websit and make her Early Rise breakfast. That's my husbands and my breakfast for the week. And the carbs are already figured out for us. Check our her website, I make a lot of her recipes and they are so good!

Well, off to eat. Talk to you soon!!!
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:56 PM   #9
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Well so far I've been maintaining my 205lbs. I figure if I lose at least 1 to 2 lbs a week, I'll be happy with that. I don't want to lose really fast, because that's all I'm going to be expecting. I need to realize that my body is catching up with the weight I've lost and in time, I start to loose. I don't want to get anxious about losing weight. I know I will, but if I start obsessing about it, then that's all I'm going to be thinking about. I know I'm eating the way I'm supposed to and that's all that matters to me.

I'm throwing in the exercise and that's been helping a lot! I really like, I feel that it's clearing my mind and relieving stress that I maybe keeping inside me.

Here's a sample of what I eat during the week.

Breakfast is always a serving of an egg casserole I make from LindaSue's recipes. I throw different meats in it, and some red and green bell peppers. I'll also throw in couple of sausage patties or even fry a couple of eggs in coconut oil.

Lunch is either, a hamburger patty, chicken and a salad with veggies.

Dinner is pretty much the same as lunch, but I add more salad and veggies.

I don't always eat a dessert, it just depends. If I do, it will be heavy whipped cream with strawberries or a lc sf ice cream bar. The ice cream bar is only every once in a while. I recently started making these flax seed muffins from a recipe I found and they are so good! I put the raspberry sf syrup in them and they are delicious!

My husband grills every Saturday for the week. It saves time for me during the week.
He is so supportive of me and is always complimenting me on how I look. He never ever said anything to me about how I used to look. I'm so blessed to have a husband like him!!

Well I hope I lose something when I weigh in tomorrow or sometime next week!

Be back soon!

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Old 10-15-2007, 06:44 AM   #11
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Thanks Lulu Belle! I hope I lost at least a lb, however, I really feel that I'm retaining water. I can feel it in my body, big time! lol I'll see how my weigh in goes.

Can I check out your Journal? Sounds interesting!!!

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For breakfast I do the same thing every week. I go to Linda's Low Carb Menus and Recipes websit and make her Early Rise breakfast. That's my husbands and my breakfast for the week. And the carbs are already figured out for us. Check our her website, I make a lot of her recipes and they are so good!
THANK YOU! I'm so pleased with Linda's site. I've just made my first ever quiche - me! making quiche!?! - who would have thunk it? I feel like a gourmet. Thanks for pointing me to her website - you are a doll.

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Old 10-15-2007, 09:11 AM   #13
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Your so welcome Diana!

I highly recommend the Taco Bake too. It's really good. I make that all the time!

Have a Great Day, and keep up the good work!!!

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Old 10-15-2007, 10:24 AM   #14
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I've been exercising with my elliptical and boy does that burn my legs and butt. It's actually not too bad, I'm doing the 7th level which is a little bit harder, but it's burning the calories. Over 400 calories! I'll have to write it down next time I exercise.

I try to do at least 20 minutes in the morning and afternoon. I love it, it's really helping me alot!

I was really tempted this weekend to go off plan. My sisters came over and my husband and I ended up bbqing. One sister was drinking beer and it made me feel like drinking something too. I like wine sometimes, but I didn't buy any to drink! I drank water or a diet rite soda.
I had baked some chocolate chipe cookies and I was also tempted to eat a couple with my coffee Saturday night. But didn't!!!

Everything went well all weekend! My weight is still the same, although I'm showing some water retainage from not drinking enough over the weekend. That will change soon!!!
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:28 PM   #15
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Today, I gave in to my flesh! I ate 2 lc sf ice cream bars. . .2!!! I could had one, but I don't know why I ate both.
I just had the urge to do this and I can't explain it.

I think I just needed to get it out of my system, then get back on course with the next meal. I did about 10 minutes on the elliptical, that was all I could handle for some reason. It may of had to do with helping my husband bring in a big ol' roll or carpet! Crazy, what was he thinking! LOL!

I'll do 10 more later and that will be 40 minutes total.

Dinner tonight will be:

Chicken drumsticks or tenders, with a big salad! I keep my meals simple, I think that helps me to decide what to make. I like to make LindaSue's casseroles too, she's got some great ones!

I'm really determined to lose this weight that I don't care how long it takes me to do it. I know that I have the Spirit of God in me to help me do this.

If God be for me, who can be against me! Right!!

Later on!
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Old 11-01-2007, 08:57 AM   #16
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So I'm still at the same weight since the last time I wrote.

I don't understand why I'm not losing. I feel that I'm doing everything I'm supposed to do, I'm exercising and taking vit-mins. I'm drinking water, not tons, but I think enough.

My food consists of:
LindaSues' egg casserole, 3 sausage patties
1 hamburger patty w/ a salad made of cucumber and radish slices with @ about 1/4 cup each. With a low carb dressing.
Same thing for dinner but add shredded cheese on top of the burgers, and I eat 2 for dinner.

I wonder if I'm still not eating enough. That would be the first time in my life that this would be a problem, lol! I kind of like that theory!

I just know that I can't give up, I've come to far to go backwards and mess up what I have accomplished.

I feel good and hopefully starting to look a little better. My husband can finally put his arms around me, and I let him now without pushing him away from embarrassment.

I'm just going to keep going on no matter what!!

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Diana~hey I just saw that you have a journal! I started a journal sometime earlier this year and I just love having one.

I can relate to slow loss. My loss has been so slow, but I do know that I haven't gained any weight - I just keep plugging away at this and I know I will lose. When I started this year I was hoping to have the fat gone by now, but I'm not discouraged because I have learned so much this year about just sticking to plan. Sure, I've had some days that I've eaten things when I haven't, but not that many really, probably under 7, and I've gotten right back on plan.

We can help each other out. Are you still doing A72?
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Hi Sue!!

wow! You're such a Sweetheart! I'm really glad you posted here, I was wondering where you went too.

Thanks for the positive thoughts, I agree, I'm sticking with this too no matte what. I just can't see going back to my old way of eating only to gain everything back.

I'll check out your journal too! I really think it helps to write out our thoughts and just let it out. If it helps anyone than that's good!

I was hoping to lose at least 50lb by now, but only 37 or 38 depending on what my body wants to do!
I'm just sticking to the new Atkins since I started with it.

I'm glad you're still plugging away and I know you'll make it to your goal!

Take Care, and God Bless!
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:19 PM   #19
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Hey, 37-38 pounds is great! I've lost at least 29 since Jan 29, but I haven't had a scale for a couple months. I get it this weekend. I haven't had it for a couple months, and as I've been stalled out, I'm a little afraid to get on it. I shouldn't stress over it.

Have a great weekend. I'm heading out to my folks soon.
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Thanks Sue!

I hope you have a good loss too!

Have fun at your parents house and have a great weekend!!!

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Well, yesterday was a funny day!

I went to my State Fair and totall went crazy!!!
When my DH and I first got there I ate a turkey leg, it was huge and good. Then I got a little more daring and ate a fried snicker bar, not all of it but about 3 bites. After that I ate a waffle cone with chocolate ice cream. It wasn't great, because it seemed like the ice cream was a cheap brand. I guess you never now what you're going to get.

When I got home from the Fair, I started to eat a few pieces of candy that's on my coffee table not to mention some toffe nuts!
I just could not stop!
Then that's not all!
In the evening, my DH and I went to get something to eat, we got burgers and fries. I couldn't even finish either! What a waste of money that all was!
But I did it and can't take it back.

The upside to it, I didn't gain anything. I was fortunate!!

My stomach felt sick, but I got over al that.

Now I'm on lc again this morning, not missing any of what I ate yesterday.

I know that I took a chance on the possibility of me not going back to lc, because of all I ate, but it's already ingrained in me to eat this way. I believe I will always eat this way.

Well, that's it for now!
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Isn't it interesting that the food usually doesn't taste as good as we thought it would when we go off plan? I know those things are going to happen to all of us - it's just life - but getting back on plan right away is the best thing to do. When you have it ingrained in you like that, it's a good thing. Have a great day.
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How's it going Diana? Thanks for your support.
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Hi Sue!

I'm actually doing pretty good! I'e been eating more protein and vegetables, more that usual. On Monday I was at 207, yesterday 206, now today I'm at 205 with it leaning a little towards the 204.5 mark. I'm just eating more.

My menu lately consists of:

B- 2 servings of LindaSues' Early Rise Breakfast, with or w/o 3 sausage patties on the side.
L- a few pieces of chicken and some sausage slices
D- LindaSue's chicken and broccoli casserole and a salad with tons of veggies.

That's what I ate the last 2 days. I've upped my vegetables and salads.

So I'll see if I'm doing what I need to do when I weigh in tomorrow.

I hope you have a great day too!!

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Wow, I'm going to have to copy your menu and try to lose like that!

I'll have to look up the Early Rise Breakfast.

Have you been hungry after lunch? I've just been hungry lately. I need to get over that hump.
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