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Old 09-12-2005, 12:12 PM   #1
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Hi every one,
14 days to day of induction and I’m on the threshold of OWL or am I? I sure was looking forward to gustatory pleasures of an increase in carbs but here is my dilemma I’ve answered the questions on page 160 and no I am not bored with induction and I’ll know tomorrow when I weigh I in the morning weather I’m metabolically resistant to weight loss .Here is another question if you have a lot of weight to lose you can do induction safely for six months or longer. Do have a lot more to go like 60lbs and on page 169 it reads OWL deliberately slows the rate of weigh and inches lost to lay the work for permanent weight loss.
Apparently, I can no longer cruise to goal its time to be specific and set a goal. I figure another 60lbs so Dano, Mandy, Melly , HN, Sinny and every one what do I do. One more question the vegetables are the carbs counts for cooked or raw.
Today last day of 2 weeks induction, that’s if I stop
Food induction clean
Water 5 L by the way I did make the 5L yesterday too
Have a great day all Cheri take it easy and I know you will make it with all the health problems behind you I’m going to try the journal thanks it came up just in time to keep me accountable.
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Old 09-13-2005, 03:54 PM   #2
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hi every one,
thanks to each one of you for all the advise and support to day I've uped my carbs but got to try fit day to find out if it dosent work what do you think of me doing the fat fast I found out that I am
Metabolicly resistant I went through all the causes and I just have to know if I can lose on the fat fast.
The 2 weeks of doing induction just made a dent a few ounces but hey its better than gaining I've always said i'd take what ever I can get be it ounces as long as I'm not gaining.I promised Dano I was going to up my carbs so I did but I hope you all understand I just have to do the fat fast to prove it to my self like Dr. A says so it was back to chapter 20 I want this to work I always enjoyed yougurt so I'm thinking of the yougurt fast Ive got some yougurt that has 5.9% M.F I'm draining the whey out and making yocheese with it so please forgive me for not taking all the advise love you all
after a short period I shall go back to induction and raise my carbs thanks again every one

Here we are, our own Yogurt Fat Fast challenge!

I am going to kick this off with the basic research that Dr. Atkins used to devise his Fat Fast so you can get a better understanding of WHY the fat fast is laid out the way it is.

"Two British researchers, Prof. Alan Kekwick and Dr. Gaston L.S. Pawan, did the groundbreaking research on the metabolic advantage. In the 1950s and ’60s the two were at the top echelon of British obesity research, both serving as chairmen of many international conferences.

In the early 1950s the two researchers were struck by the many studies that suggested that diets of different compositions of fat, protein and carbohydrate provided differing rates of weight loss.
Their subsequent study on obese subjects found that those on a 1,000-calorie diet comprised of 90 percent protein—and especially those on a diet comprised of 90 percent fat—lost weight (0.6 pounds and 0.9 pounds per day, respectively).
However, when the same subjects were given a diet with the same number of calories, but comprised of 90 percent carbohydrate, they did not lose any weight—in fact, they gained a little.

Kekwick and Pawan then replicated a study with humans that they had previously done on animals and found the same phenomenon: A diet of 1,000 calories worked well for weight loss as long as carbohydrate intake was low, while a high-carbohydrate 1,000-calorie regimen took off very little weight. They then showed that their subjects did not lose at all on a so-called balanced diet of 2,000 calories. But when their diet contained primarily fat and very little carbohydrate, these same obese subjects could lose weight—even when they ate as many as 2,600 calories a day. The difference is that weight loss between the two programs comes close to being a pound per day. Despite the Middlesex doctors’ impeccable reputations, the majority of their colleagues remained skeptical, given their calorie-is-a-calorie mind-set. They set out to disprove this intellectual bombshell that Kekwick and Pawan had dropped on them.

Kekwick and Pawan conducted water-balance studies that showed water loss to be only a small part of the total weight lost. Kekwick and Pawan then embarked on a two-year study of mice in a metabolic chamber. By measuring the loss of carbon in the feces and urine, they were able to show that the mice on the high-fat diet excreted considerable unused calories in the form of ketone bodies, as well as citric, lactic and pyruvic acids. At the end of the study period, they analyzed the fat content of the animals’ bodies and found significantly less fat on the carcasses of the mice that had been fed a high-fat, controlled carbohydrate diet.

Perhaps the most provocative aspect of Kekwick and Pawan’s work: During the time they were proving the metabolic advantage of a controlled carbohydrate diet, they detected and extracted a substance from the urine of people on the regimen. When that substance was injected into mice, it caused the same metabolic results they had observed in the mice on controlled carbohydrate diets, indicating that fat was “melting” off their bodies. The carcass fat decreased dramatically, the ketone and free fatty-acid levels rose and, most significantly, the excretion of unused calories via urine and feces rose from a normal 10 percent to 36 percent. They named this substance FMS, or fat-mobilizing substance. "

Today Excersise 2mile WATP with 3lbs weights all the way and 8min Tae bo still struggling but getting a better handle on it
food I'm listing the ingredients I made wraps and was declious
2 eggs
1/4 cup flax meal
1tsp cinnamon
1oz guava
2oz jicima
4 cheese sticks
5 romaine lettuce
1/4 cup onion
133g albacore tuna in water
1/4 mayo
2 L green tea
water 2L
I had all that all day !!!!!!!! it feels like not much till you write it all down bye guys I promise not to make it so long next time
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Old 09-14-2005, 01:00 PM   #3
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Today I tried fit day
still preparing for the yocheese fat fast but as promised to Dano my carbs are up
1/2 an avacado dont know if this is right Cal 139-fat13- carbs 6.5 protein 1.5
a pat of butter cal 36 fat 04 carbs 0 protein 0
green tea 2L 12cal - 04fat 0carbs-protein 0
jicima 4oz 29 cal 0fat 5.5 fat .05 carbs o protein
133g of tuna 0carbs
mayo 0carbs
I'm still a novice at fit day it's given me a headache I'll have to learn an easier way
I walked 3 miles with 3 lbs weights all the way and did a 8min tae bo work out it 's getting a little easier but still not perfect.
energy is still up feeling strong and just crusing along till I get my yocheese ready.
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Old 09-16-2005, 05:11 AM   #4
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yesterday would you believe did'nt find the post so this is going to be for yesterday and today.
yesterday
4 miles with 3lbs weights makes me feel what 6 lbs fat feels like
food 8oz of eggplant stir fried in 2 pats of butter
133g of tuna with 3tbs mayo
3oz of chcken
1 cheese stick
2L green tea
3.5 L water
all that water and tea made me full and did I have e n e r g y !!!!!!!!!!
today
not sure how much but going to do the yougurt fat fast I have my yocheese ready. 750g of Balkan yougurt gave me 410g of yocheese. One serving of yougurt is 105cal 4g protein 7.4g fat. So if I divide 750g by 125=6 servings.
can some one help me out here I'm a with math
need to go work out may be repeat what I did yesterday
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Old 09-16-2005, 07:22 AM   #5
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You are doing great getten!!! Like me you skipped eating your veggies... Not sure if this is part of your plan.. but thought I would point it out to ya... I am so glad you found so much energy sweetie... I am going to also do what you suggested and drink some green tea today. Wish you were here to drink a cup with me and we could sit here and chat.

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Old 09-17-2005, 11:34 AM   #6
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Thanks Cherri for visiting you made my day
today is my 2nd day on the yocheese fat fast still doing great but I need help to figure out the math may be I'll try my accountant friend
there are no veggies on this 3-5 day fast
Today I had my 200g of yocheese with some flax meal and davanci vanilla syrup yummmmmmmmm
2L of green tea may that is what keeps me going instead of falling asleep.
3L of water
more servings of yocheese but not hungry now when I am I just fill up with 200g of YC
did my 4 mile WATP with 3lb weights I'm playing a mind game carrying the weights makes me see how gaining will feel triedf taebo again not perfect yet but now I got the instructional tae bo to help me learn the moves its a killer but challenging love it
wondering if I should do the 3 day fast to notch it up a biot to a 5
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Old 09-18-2005, 04:49 PM   #7
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hey getten you are doing terriffic girl...please explain the yogurt fast to me okay....keep up the hard but worth it work!!!!!
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Old 09-19-2005, 09:55 AM   #8
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Thanks for visiting Elisa
love your stats you've lost 154 lbs amazing in such a short time too WTG!!!!!!!! are you doing Atkins I'm a bit rushed today but will post the fat fast for you its in the 20th chapter of DANDR I'm doing my own version mixing the yocheese with some of what Dr. Atkins recomends. Today is my 4th day and still loving it.
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Today is day 3 of my fat fast I had 2 hard boiled yolks with 2tsp mayo and will have 3 servings of yocheese will have 2L of greeen tea and try to get 3L of water
excersise 4 mile WATP with 3lb weights and what ever I can do of the 8min taebo its a killer
Yesterday was my 2nd day of fat fast why did it feel like the 3rd day
did my 4 mile WATP with no weights and no taebo would you believe I was sleep walking through the whole work out I had to push push push I will do the fat fast (1000 cal) for 5 days then switch to 1200 calories.
Cheri can you tell me why my keto sticks never change since I first started Atkins
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Thanks getten...but I have lost more than 80 pounds but I will get to the 154 loss LOL..keep it up you are awesome
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ElDiary of a Yogurt Fast

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Here we are, our own Yogurt Fat Fast challenge!

I am going to kick this off with the basic research that Dr. Atkins used to devise his Fat Fast so you can get a better understanding of WHY the fat fast is laid out the way it is.

"Two British researchers, Prof. Alan Kekwick and Dr. Gaston L.S. Pawan, did the groundbreaking research on the metabolic advantage. In the 1950s and ’60s the two were at the top echelon of British obesity research, both serving as chairmen of many international conferences.

In the early 1950s the two researchers were struck by the many studies that suggested that diets of different compositions of fat, protein and carbohydrate provided differing rates of weight loss.
Their subsequent study on obese subjects found that those on a 1,000-calorie diet comprised of 90 percent protein—and especially those on a diet comprised of 90 percent fat—lost weight (0.6 pounds and 0.9 pounds per day, respectively).
However, when the same subjects were given a diet with the same number of calories, but comprised of 90 percent carbohydrate, they did not lose any weight—in fact, they gained a little.

Kekwick and Pawan then replicated a study with humans that they had previously done on animals and found the same phenomenon: A diet of 1,000 calories worked well for weight loss as long as carbohydrate intake was low, while a high-carbohydrate 1,000-calorie regimen took off very little weight. They then showed that their subjects did not lose at all on a so-called balanced diet of 2,000 calories. But when their diet contained primarily fat and very little carbohydrate, these same obese subjects could lose weight—even when they ate as many as 2,600 calories a day. The difference is that weight loss between the two programs comes close to being a pound per day. Despite the Middlesex doctors’ impeccable reputations, the majority of their colleagues remained skeptical, given their calorie-is-a-calorie mind-set. They set out to disprove this intellectual bombshell that Kekwick and Pawan had dropped on them.

Kekwick and Pawan conducted water-balance studies that showed water loss to be only a small part of the total weight lost. Kekwick and Pawan then embarked on a two-year study of mice in a metabolic chamber. By measuring the loss of carbon in the feces and urine, they were able to show that the mice on the high-fat diet excreted considerable unused calories in the form of ketone bodies, as well as citric, lactic and pyruvic acids. At the end of the study period, they analyzed the fat content of the animals’ bodies and found significantly less fat on the carcasses of the mice that had been fed a high-fat, controlled carbohydrate diet.

Perhaps the most provocative aspect of Kekwick and Pawan’s work: During the time they were proving the metabolic advantage of a controlled carbohydrate diet, they detected and extracted a substance from the urine of people on the regimen. When that substance was injected into mice, it caused the same metabolic results they had observed in the mice on controlled carbohydrate diets, indicating that fat was “melting” off their bodies. The carcass fat decreased dramatically, the ketone and free fatty-acid levels rose and, most significantly, the excretion of unused calories via urine and feces rose from a normal 10 percent to 36 percent. They named this substance FMS, or fat-mobilizing substance. "
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It was the discovery that eating 90% fat on 1,000 calories/day would cause nearly a pound a day in weight loss that inspired Dr. Atkins to design the Fat Fast that he listed in his DANDR. I will post a second excerpt from DANDR outlining the Fat Fast, which I used as a basis for the Yogurt Fat Fast.

It isn't just the yogurt that causes this phenomenal weight loss, but the combination of a reduction of total daily calories to 1,000, 75-90% of the total being comprised of fat. That is why it is important to keep your calories at 1,000 and your fat grams between 75 & 90 per day. Your carb count should stay as close to 10 net grams as possible.
Lisa here's the fat fast gettenthere
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Old 09-19-2005, 06:31 PM   #12
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Hi Getten sweetie...

Lesson on how to send a PM...

Look above my avatar... see my name? Click on it. A drop down list will come down and you will see on the list "Send a private message to cheri" Click on that. A window will come up that you type in and then you hit submit... when you do it will ask if you want to track the message just click yes or cancel and it will send the PM.. Go ahead and test it on me sweetie and I will let you know you did it right.

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A homemade product, this cheese is child's play to produce. Since the milk has already been acidified by yogurt-making bacteria, all that's left is to drain off the whey. Leave yogurt in a fine sieve for eight to 36 hours, and you've got cheese. The timing is imprecise and a matter of preference: The longer the draining, the more whey is released, and the thicker the cheese. The most common time—10 to 12 hours, or overnight—produces equal portions of whey and cheese.

The simplest approach is to buy an inexpensive (about $10) yogurt strainer, typically a plastic funnel lined with fine mesh. Spoon the yogurt into the funnel, prop the funnel in a container such as a Mason jar or two-cup measure, cover the top with plastic wrap, and refrigerate. Available in some kitchen specialty shops, yogurt funnels can also be mail-ordered (see the Editor's Note).

In the absence of a special tool, line a colander with several layers of cheesecloth, and add the yogurt, pushing it up the sides to maximize drainage. Set the colander in a pan to catch the whey (if the colander doesn't have legs, put it on a rack), cover the whole outfit with plastic wrap, and refrigerate it.

Cheese can be made from plain or flavored yogurts, from nonfat, low-fat or whole-milk types and from most commercial brands. Just make sure the yogurt contains no gelatin (check the list of ingredients), which holds the whey in suspension and prevents it from draining off. As with ricotta, freshness matters. As yogurt gets older, it gets tarter and more likely to produce a sour-tasting cheese. Try to buy well in advance of the pull date.

Once you've made yogurt cheese, what do you do with it? With added herbs, flavorings and other ingredients, it can form the basis for everything from dips and spreads to pies and cheesecakes.

If you've tried and failed for years to like yogurt on your baked potato, try herbed yogurt cheese; it's better. It's also good with raw vegetables,
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Elisa the above is how to make yocheese I love it enjoy
Today I had 2x200g of yocheese
1/4 cup flax meal
4 eggyolks boiled with 3tsp mayo
2L green tea 1L water
still trying to figure the nutrional information on 1/12 cups of whey that is left when drained from 750g of 5.9% M.F. yougurt. Any one where can I find this information.
did my 4 mile WATP with 3 lb weights and whatever I could of the 8min tae bo work out
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Old 09-20-2005, 08:43 PM   #16
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this is my 4th day of the fat fast feeling great!
food will be 1000 calories
2L green tea water will try he 2L
still trying to find out the nutritional information in 11/2 cup of whey that is left when I drain 750g of 5.9% yougurt lol
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I'm so messsed up so here is what I'm going to do post what I eat and drink as I do them so far this morning 1L of water, 2deviled eggs, 1/2L green tea wonder how I can edit this to add the rest
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Old 09-21-2005, 02:28 PM   #18
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how does one edit, Iwanted to add more on my previous post Cheri !!!!!!!!!!!!
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finished all my 3L water, 2L green tea
4deviled eggs
4oz of youcheese with davanic sugar free syrup
4 miles of WATP with 3lb weights all the way no tae bo today been very busy
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my last day on the fat fast weigh in in the morning to see if I made adent then on to 1200 and then back to induction for 2 weeks then its time to up my carbs even if there is no dent I will till continue up the ladder this is for life so I have to hang in there.
food fat fats 100calories
water 2.5L green tea 1.5L
excersise 4 miles WATPwith 3lb weights and tae bo still struggling for

I'm such a any one counting with me is today my 5th day or 6th now I'm so confused well its already late in the day so I shall weigh in in the morning
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Hi every one,
Mandy thanks and the vibes worked my weighed in this morning and I made much more than a dent I'm so happy today I'm back on 1200 calories and this is good because I should learn to count calories too like you have been doing its a great idea to learn portion control yeh I 'm getting it a little slow but getting there Mandy "exercise like the little dude" I wish . If wishes were horses then beggars would ride

Dwana for the little kiddos must keep you busy
wow pizzamama is that how you maintain 33333333333333333333

Dano mano what a work out

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Sherry you are doing awesome

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Tippy yes you can yes you can yeeeeeeeeeeees every day closer to goal
Water not so good
exercise same as yesterday
green tea 1.5 L
food 1200 calories
Lots of energy I've been on the go since 5:30 am and only just got herereal busy day have a great night lets see if I can go to chat tonight. all goodnight
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today 1200 calories my second day
food good
water not so good
green tea aprox 1.5 L
excersise nothing yet but I hope to get some done by tonight it's been really hectic
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hi gettenthere its me mibashful (shelly) i had a job interview and it sounds so awsome im really hopeing they call me any way i found the journal page tonight i enterd my 1st entry and there are 2 cheats in there stupid stupid me i knowbut tommorows another day and i have my journal no to keep me accountable love to all shelly.
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