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Old 04-05-2010, 07:55 AM   #1
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This thread is for anyone wanting to know about the CLA/GLA combo "and" whatever plan is working for you !!!

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Because of the potential for side effects and interactions with
medications, dietary supplements should be taken only under the
supervision of a knowledgeable healthcare provider.

If you take an anti-coagulant (blood-thinning) medication, check with your doctor before trying borage oil

What is CLA/GLA?
Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA) to promote lean muscle while burning fat.
Gamma Linoleic Acid (GLA) for its many beneficial effects in fighting
muscle inflammation and supporting the immune system. From a fat loss
perspective, GLA is vital in supporting the production of two strong fat
burning hormones...growth hormone and the bodys primary calorie burning
hormone, thyroid hormone.

GLA should be taken with food

Most effective daily dose...
CLA 3400 mg (1/2 Tbsp liquid once a day, or 5 Tonalin or Spring Valley
capsules)
GLA 500-1000 mg (2-4 Borage Oil caps a day)

How does CLA work?
A: CLA prevents fat from being deposited into the cells by speeding up the
body's fat metabolism. CLA also helps the body metabolize existing fat
deposits. This fat then returns to the blood stream where it is used as
energy by muscle cells and the liver. CLA activates genes that trigger fat
cell death, shrinks fat cells, speeds up metabolism.

CLA Turns on Fat Breakdown Genes
CLA Boosts Endurance

How does GLA work?

A: Numerous research studies have examined the role of GLA for improving
health, specifically in the area of weight loss. GLA from borage oil
causes less body fat to accumulate. Borage oil owes its healing power to
the presence of essential fatty acids, the most important of which is GLA,
an omega-6 fatty acid. (While borage oil is often used interchangeably
with evening primrose oil, ounce for ounce, borage oil boasts more than
twice as much GLA.) Primrose has been known to give headaches also.

Guidelines for Use

Taking borage oil with food may boost GLA absorption and minimize
unpleasant side effects.

If you take an anticoagulant (blood-thinning) medication, check with your
doctor before trying borage oil. The are no other known drug or nutrient
interactions associated with borage oil.

Possible Side Effects ...
Borage oil may cause loose stools and minor stomach problems.

Other benefits of Borage Oil...
Reduce the symptoms of eczema and psoriasis
Clear up acne and rosacea
Alleviate inflammation associated with lupus
Prevent nerve damage (neuropathy) due to diabetes
Combat damage from multiple sclerosis
Ease cough and soothe throat disorders
Treat Alzheimer's-related memory deficiencies
Reduce stress and high blood pressure
Nourish nails, scalp, and hair
Counter impotence and female infertility

CLA Q&A

CLA works best when “cycled”, by using it for 3-4 weeks on and coming off for 2 weeks, before going on again

Is CLA Safe to Take With My Thyroid Medications?
There's no evidence that CLA, a food supplement, interacts with thyroid
medications, or poses any special dangers to thyroid patients. But you
should always discuss any supplements you intend to take with your own
physician or practitioner before starting.

Is CLA Only for People with Thyroid Problems?
Absolutely not. The studies have shown that it's effective in general for
reducing/converting fat. You don't have to have a thyroid problem -- you
just have to be overweight - to benefit from CLA.

How Much Should I Take?
The study found that 3.4 grams of CLA was needed in order to get the benefits. Since the various formulas contain a percentage of other oils as ingredients, it's wise to probably calculate how much each pill is delivering to make sure you're getting the full 3.4 grams a day. For example, if your capsule contains 75% CLA, and it's 1000 mg, then you're getting 750 mg of CLA, and would need 5 per day to get to the 3.4 grams level.

How Should I Take It?
The various recommendations differ here. Some recommendations suggest to take it before eating. Others suggest to take it with meals. Take it preferably with lowfat or nonfat milk for maximum protein absorption. Personally, I'm taking it right before I eat with some milk.

Does CLA Have Any Side Effects?
Some people report feeling slightly green or nauseous after taking their CLA, or isolated cases of gastrointestinal upset or loose stools. These
side effects typically are reduced when the product is taken with protein (i.e.,with milk), and usually decrease after about 2 weeks taking the
supplement.

Usually, in the first three weeks, the abdominal fat "pooch" starts shrinking. Other "fattier" areas (such as cheeks, upper arms, rear end) seemed to be slowly reducing as well. You may notice that your appetite is somewhat reduced. You may feel a bit green after taking the CLA the first couple days, but if you take it with milk, or protein it should eliminate that problem.

You may prefer to get your Borage Oil from Netrition. It has a higher GLA content, so less pills to take, and more pills per bottle than other brands. So by getting your combo from Netrition, its alot cheaper than taking all the caps from other stores.

If you're taking CLA, don't take your Omega-3s at the same time. They will compete against each other for absorption. Leave at least a 3 hour window when taking both.


http://www6.netrition.com/pvl_liquid_cla3.html
PVL Liquid CLA-3
Serving Size: 1/2 Teaspoon
Servings Per Container: 96
Recommended Use: 1/2 teaspoon, 2-3 times daily with meals


http://www.netrition.com/natrol_cla_page.html
Natrol Tonalin CLA-1200

NOW Borage Oil
http://www.netrition.com/now_borage_oil_page.html
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everyone !! I still have 2 bottles of the liquid cla. and still trying to get myself back on a plan. I gained 12 pounds while on vacation eeeeek , but have lost 7 of those since we got home. Now that warm weather is here and I wont be sitting in the house as much, I should be able to get going again. Gonna go mow the yard now, see y'all later !!

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I started taking Heat tone n lean yesterday. It is a combo of sesamin CLA and GLA. IF I see no real change I'll go back to PVL CLA when it comes out again.
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I read somewhere that the sesamin went really well with the cla. Waiting to see your results
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I started taking Heat tone n lean yesterday. It is a combo of sesamin CLA and GLA. IF I see no real change I'll go back to PVL CLA when it comes out again.
Is that a liquid blend or capsules?

It would be great if there were a liquid blend with both the CLA and GLA.
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It's capsules. Problem eith the bottle is that a dosage of each is not included on the bottle... Just the mixture and the size of each capsule, with instructions on take 1 three times a day with meals or for better results 2 three times a day with meals... I'm waiting on a reply to the requested information.
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Liquid CLA back in stock at Netrition

Just got an email that the liquid CLA is back in stock at Netrition!
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It is now available.

To order, please visit http://www.netrition.com/pvl_liquid_cla3.html

I'm going to order a couple more in case they sell out fast again !!

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THe Liquid CLa

How many times are all of you taking this each day? I have always only done the 1/2 tsp of the other once a day. Should I increase it with this pvl liquid?
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I think this is one half teaspoon twice a day to get the maximum recommended dosage.
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Hello,

I got both my CLA and GLA, and just wondering about the 'right' amount to take daily.

CLA capsule is only 1000 mg, and

GLA (Borage oil), is only 212 mg!!, the rest of the 1000 mg capsul consist of linolenic a cid-omega 6 (383 mg), oleic acid-omega 9 (180 mg), palmitic acid (107 mg) and stearic acid (38 mg)

Thank you so much for your help
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Hey all!! Marking my spot here, I'm ordering from netrition right now (since the liquid is finally back in stock) and giving this a try!
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How many here buy grass fed beef?
If you do, how much per pound do you typically pay?

I'm thinking of adjusting my shopping list and need to budget for changes.

Figured if I'm gonna pay for CLA supps I might as well buy the food that has it naturally. But i have no idea of the costs cause I'm the Mighty Penny Pincher, and I usually buy the cheapest foods, meats ie, thighs, and quarters, whole hens and ground beef on sale, though i wil never buy anything fatter than 80% again. I wastes so much volume from added water and added fat. I know it's added fat cause once I got a log of ground beef and half the log was compacted white fat. It hadn't been blended in, so I knew it was just lean meat with fat added and that was half the package.

Sorry to wax on, So how much do you pay for your grass fed beef and what store do you shop?

I have krogers, Ingles, That green place . . . Publics? Piggly Wiggly ( I doubt they have GF) and Walmart I suppose.
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27 dollars for the tag and 10 dollars for the broadhead tipped arrow.


ground beef here is around $2.50 a pound. Ribeyes and T-bones run arouns 10 bucks a pound. I refuse to buy ribeyes and T-bones at the store....to rich for my blood. When I do eat them it is from a beef that I buy from a local farmer, that breaks down to 2 bucks a pound weather it's ground, roast, or steaks.
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27 dollars for the tag and 10 dollars for the broadhead tipped arrow.


ground beef here is around $2.50 a pound. Ribeyes and T-bones run arouns 10 bucks a pound. I refuse to buy ribeyes and T-bones at the store....to rich for my blood. When I do eat them it is from a beef that I buy from a local farmer, that breaks down to 2 bucks a pound weather it's ground, roast, or steaks.
Yeah, Phil,i know you lead the priviledge life!

I was actually wondering about the meat labeled Grass Fed. It's supposed to have more CLA naturally. But I've never looked for it. Those prices sound about right for regular beef though. Good to know it's not much different. i wish I knew a local farmer to get steaks at $2/pound!
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I've never seen a package of beef marked grass fed. I'll have to start looking. Most cattle around here are fed corn, hay and whatever green grass they can find.
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I buy grass fed ground beef at $4 a pound.

I doubt you would find it at any of the regular chains though.

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but who DO you buy it from. I don't know where to find it. Someone else said costco, but I don' have one of those. Kroger doesn't. I doubt wally world does. We have Earth fair but I'm afraid of their prices in general.
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Unfortunately it's a local co-op for locally grown veggies, eggs, dairy, meat, and fish. They are not outside of Milwaukee. Try and google grass fed beef in your area. Some farmers may have some sort of co op that you could buy from.
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thanks. I found a website, just wondered how hard it is to get retail when one really looks for it.
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Higher-end grocery stores (like Byerlys, Harmons, or Dans) tend to have the grass-fed beef. Also - you might try something like a natural foods store if you have one.
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Thanks, i guess i will check EarthFare, after all. BF wants me to go get another bottle of his $10 shampoo. He said "Aren't I worth it?" Yes he is!
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You know, once farmers markets start up, you could ask the local farmers if they know anyone locally that sells grass fed beef too. They might be able to hook you up for cheaper than you can get in a store.
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Ok, received my shipment of liquid CLA & borage oil yesterday and started this morning. Is it just me or does the liquid taste like turpentine smells??? GROSS!

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The stuff is really quite nasty at first. After a couple of days the flavor just sort of disappears.
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