Vitamin D question...paging fawn

Terra2721 · 10-24-2009, 09:07 AM

I just read a study regarding vitamin D and fertility. I am going to try getting pregnant come the spring and am going to do all I can to prepare my body. I really would love some guidance on what the best brand of vitamin D supplements and how much one should take. TIA!

jem51 · 10-24-2009, 10:25 AM

not fawn but D3.
when i first stated (after testing), i just went to the grocery outlet and bought what was on the shelf which was 1000mg. i took 2 daily and in 2-3 mos, i was in a good range.

right now i am taking 2000mg twice daily which comes from puritans pride. i know that many peop take more than that but it seems to work well for me.

on your next labs have your doc order the test.

D3 is not an expensive supplement.

Tril · 10-24-2009, 10:41 AM

"right now i am taking 2000mg twice daily which comes from puritans pride. "

Me, too!!! One in the morning and one at night... on the days I don't get any sun. Most days I walk about an hour and that's enough to generate my own Vit D. But on the days I don't get natural sunlight I supplement. The RDA isn't enough, especially if you don't get any sunlight and/or you wear sunscreen. If you use sunscreen you should be supplementing every day.

I saw on TV the other day that the number one risk for infertility is smoking... both for women and men.

Folic Acid is something you should be taking now, too.

ga_kimmie · 10-24-2009, 11:20 AM

Butting in...

Take at least 1000 mg vit D daily. I take the vitamin shoppe brand softgels. Also start taking a prenatal vitamin now with at least 800 mcg of folic acid.

If you're interested in reading more about getting pregnant, Taking Charge Of Your Fertility is an awesome book.

Blood Sugar 101 · 10-24-2009, 11:26 AM

Dr. Davis of the Heart Scan blog says that the oil based Vitamin D pills are the best. I use the ones from Walgreen's store brand (Finest Natural) and have been getting my levels tested by the doctor. 1000 to 2000 IU a day put me at 51 which is the level at which the benefits kick in.

Dr, Davis also says the expensive versions are often less effective than the cheap ones, and that you should avoid Vitamin D2.

OurLuvsFromAbove · 10-25-2009, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Blood Sugar 101

Dr. Davis of the Heart Scan blog says that the oil based Vitamin D pills are the best. I use the ones from Walgreen's store brand (Finest Natural) and have been getting my levels tested by the doctor. 1000 to 2000 IU a day put me at 51 which is the level at which the benefits kick in.

Dr, Davis also says the expensive versions are often less effective than the cheap ones, and that you should avoid Vitamin D2.

WOWWWWWW I love to hear that... I'm happy with my vitimin shoppe brand.. maybe when I goto target later I'll get some of there own brand too to try.. i'm almost all done with mine..

fawn · 10-25-2009, 11:02 AM

You only uptake about 40% of D2.

I am advising Vitamin D3 Drops. Whether it be Carlsons or another brand, as Jenny mentions, oil based is superior.

I take 4000IU daily myself. That's my h1n1 vaccine! I also take 1tbs. cod liver oil daily and would recommend that for anyone wanting to obtain a healthy pregnancy. It is said that the mother who ingests CLO during pregnancy, has a more intelligent child.

Yes, folic acid is important with all B vitamins. Nutritional Yeast is one of my favorite booster foods.

SweetPoison2 · 10-25-2009, 11:06 AM

Do you take the drops, Fawn? I almost bought some VitD3, at Kaiser the other day while I was picking up the Tamiflu for my daughter who has H1N1, but I could not remember if a 3 WAS attached to it.

Been a horrible last four days for her. Now I am so paranoid. Tomorrow morning I was going to go and get the H1N1 shot as fast as my car will drive me.

But you are saying take VitD instead?

fawn · 10-25-2009, 11:12 AM

Marie, it's D3. Be careful with the tamiflu. There are also some very negative reports on that with neurological side effects.

Annabelle · 10-25-2009, 03:43 PM

I just heard on a nutrition show to take the d with a fatty meal...is that right? I take before bed but will change if need be. Thanks!

fawn · 10-25-2009, 03:57 PM

With or around a fatty meal. Remember, your fat soluble vitamins A, D, E & K must be delivered to adipose tissue in fat at the small intestine. Your water solubles, are used and remainder passed through urine. B and C.

This is where the low/non fat era damaged us. Vegetables without a fat are basically just fiber.

Annabelle · 10-25-2009, 04:00 PM

ok, so basically if I take it with a meal low in fiber I'll be ok..(and some fat)? My D has been VERY low and the Dr. wants me to take 1500 mgs but didn't say when or how...typical huh! Of course I didn't think to ask!

Melrose · 10-25-2009, 04:04 PM

Hi, I am from Richmond as well (Henrico County), it is a small world.

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Originally Posted by Terra2721

I just read a study regarding vitamin D and fertility. I am going to try getting pregnant come the spring and am going to do all I can to prepare my body. I really would love some guidance on what the best brand of vitamin D supplements and how much one should take. TIA!

fawn · 10-25-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Annabelle

ok, so basically if I take it with a meal low in fiber I'll be ok..(and some fat)? My D has been VERY low and the Dr. wants me to take 1500 mgs but didn't say when or how...typical huh! Of course I didn't think to ask!

It doesn't necessarily need to be a low fiber meal. The body is very good at disceminating nutrients.

I add mine to a shake that has blueberries and 3 cups of greens and flax!

Annabelle · 10-25-2009, 04:07 PM

Oh ok great! Thanks so much

SweetPoison2 · 10-25-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fawn

Marie, Be careful with the tamiflu. There are also some very negative reports on that with neurological side effects.

Wonderful. She has three doses left.

jem51 · 10-25-2009, 06:26 PM

you can get the effect by taking the non fat based D3 w a meal that contains fat.
go for what's affordable and then decide. don't let price hinder the importance of this supplement.

it works great for me and is my h1n1 vaccine as well.

fawn · 10-25-2009, 07:08 PM

I'm doing a great deal of research right now as I will be on a local radio show on Tuesday discussing this. You can stream it live if anyone would like to listen. Just let me know.

Marie, in my research, you've been exposed to H1N1 which now makes it double dangerous for you to get the vaccination.

As Jem stated, D3 is your vaccination.....

Annabelle · 10-25-2009, 07:31 PM

I'd love to try and listen! Just let me know how,OK?

SweetPoison2 · 10-25-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fawn

Marie, in my research, you've been exposed to H1N1 which now makes it double dangerous for you to get the vaccination.

Oh Lord. Are you serious? Do you think I would have it by now, Fawn?

I am con........fused.

Tril · 10-26-2009, 04:35 AM

"Marie, in my research, you've been exposed to H1N1 which now makes it double dangerous for you to get the vaccination. "

Can you post links to that research? This is quite a statement... and could cause unnecessary fear and anxiety in people already dealing with an h1n1 infection of a loved one. Your "double dangerous" implies that you believe the vaccine is dangerous even before exposure... please post where you got your information.

ETA:

From the CDC...

"Therefore, if you were ill but do not know if you had 2009 H1N1 infection, you should get vaccinated, if your doctor recommends it. So, most people recommended for 2009 H1N1 vaccination should be vaccinated with the 2009 H1N1 vaccine regardless of whether they had a flu-like illness earlier in the year. If you have had 2009 H1N1 flu, as confirmed by an RT-PCR test, you should have some immunity against 2009 H1N1 flu and can choose not to get the 2009 H1N1 vaccine. However, vaccination of a person with some existing immunity to the 2009 H1N1 virus will not be harmful. For more information on flu tests, see Influenza Diagnostic Testing During the 2009-2010 Flu Season."

If you choose to not believe the CDC information, that's your choice. I just think it's irresponsible to spread fear the way you did with your "double dangerous" post. If you can get the vaccine after having the flu, you can certainly get it after being exposed to it. IF she was exposed to it. Not every illness this year is going to be h1n1. If you don't want to get the vaccine, that's your choice... but there are people who absolutely NEED to get it, whether they're afraid or not.

Blood Sugar 101 · 10-26-2009, 07:40 AM

Fawn,

I have to disagree with you and suggest your statement about vaccination is dangerously wrong.

I have excellent vitamin D levels and I got the H1N1 flu--it made me VERY sick. My levels were coincidentally tested right after the time when I got the flu and were 51.

There is a huge amount of misinformation being spread about the vaccine. If you have a child who has asthma or have asthma yourself the vaccine could save a life.

I have studied up on this topic and feel confident that the vaccine would be useful to anyone save those with egg allergies or failing immune systems. Overactive immune systems, such as are found in autoimmune disease make this flu MORE DANGEROUS.

Vitamin D does NOT fight viruses.

SweetPoison2 · 10-26-2009, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Blood Sugar 101

Vitamin D does NOT fight viruses.

...and let the controversy begin.

Tril · 10-26-2009, 08:06 AM

A healthy immune system can help your body fight off viruses (as well as good hygiene practices)... vitamins can bolster your immune system. So in that way, you could probably deduce that "vitamins fight viruses". To say that taking certain vitamins will PREVENT infection... I think that's a stretch.

SweetPoison2 · 10-26-2009, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tril

To say that taking certain vitamins will PREVENT infection... I think that's a stretch.

Did she actually say that though?

Tril · 10-26-2009, 08:11 AM

"Did she actually say that though?"

Uh huh.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fawn

I take 4000IU daily myself. That's my h1n1 vaccine!

And this...

Quote:

Originally Posted by fawn

As Jem stated, D3 is your vaccination.....

You take a vaccine to prevent a disease, right?

Blood Sugar 101 · 10-26-2009, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tril

A healthy immune system can help your body fight off viruses (as well as good hygiene practices)... vitamins can bolster your immune system. So in that way, you could probably deduce that "vitamins fight viruses". To say that taking certain vitamins will PREVENT infection... I think that's a stretch.

The problem with H1N1 is that it is people with the healthiest immune systems that can get the sickest, because what this virus does is provoke an extreme immune response in the lung tissue which leads it to fill will water and block the ability to breathe.

That is one reason why unlike the usual flu, it is most fatal in young people with healthy immune systems.

ghelen · 10-26-2009, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blood Sugar 101

The problem with H1N1 is that it is people with the healthiest immune systems that can get the sickest, because what this virus does is provoke an extreme immune response in the lung tissue which leads it to fill will water and block the ability to breathe.

That is one reason why unlike the usual flu, it is most fatal in young people with healthy immune systems.

Yes..a cytokine storm. That'swhy I wouldn't take black elderberry extract during it. At the earliest stages..it may help, but i would never take it once I was in the midst of the flu.

SweetPoison2 · 10-26-2009, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blood Sugar 101

The problem with H1N1 is that it is people with the healthiest immune systems that can get the sickest, because what this virus does is provoke an extreme immune response in the lung tissue which leads it to fill will water and block the ability to breathe.

My daughter is still suffering so from the H1N1! It has been horrible to say the least. Now that a week of 103 fever, today, she has never felt worse she states! WTH??

I am just waiting to get this. I called my doc office re the vaccine and they don't have it, but: " we can put you on the list"

I think I need Vit D3. Couldn't hurt right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tril

Uh huh.

Yes. You are right. She will be back. I would like to hear her reasoning on HOW vitD3, will protect us from a virus. I need something, woman!!

Tril · 10-26-2009, 02:39 PM

SP2, was your daughter actually tested for H1N1? Around here they're only testing people admitted to the hospital for flu. Otherwise, they aren't doing the specific test to determine which flu you have.

10-24-2009, 09:07 AM	#1
Terra2721 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 213 Gallery: Terra2721 Stats: 227/165/150 WOE: Atkins Start Date: May 19,2007	Vitamin D question...paging fawn I just read a study regarding vitamin D and fertility. I am going to try getting pregnant come the spring and am going to do all I can to prepare my body. I really would love some guidance on what the best brand of vitamin D supplements and how much one should take. TIA!

10-26-2009, 04:35 AM	#21
Tril Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Maine Posts: 169 Blog Entries: 6 Gallery: Tril Stats: 49 yo, 5'4", CW 131.5, highest adult wt 225 WOE: current: low carb (<20) Start Date: started controlling carbs Nov 04	"Marie, in my research, you've been exposed to H1N1 which now makes it double dangerous for you to get the vaccination. " Can you post links to that research? This is quite a statement... and could cause unnecessary fear and anxiety in people already dealing with an h1n1 infection of a loved one. Your "double dangerous" implies that you believe the vaccine is dangerous even before exposure... please post where you got your information. ETA: From the CDC... "Therefore, if you were ill but do not know if you had 2009 H1N1 infection, you should get vaccinated, if your doctor recommends it. So, most people recommended for 2009 H1N1 vaccination should be vaccinated with the 2009 H1N1 vaccine regardless of whether they had a flu-like illness earlier in the year. If you have had 2009 H1N1 flu, as confirmed by an RT-PCR test, you should have some immunity against 2009 H1N1 flu and can choose not to get the 2009 H1N1 vaccine. However, vaccination of a person with some existing immunity to the 2009 H1N1 virus will not be harmful. For more information on flu tests, see Influenza Diagnostic Testing During the 2009-2010 Flu Season." If you choose to not believe the CDC information, that's your choice. I just think it's irresponsible to spread fear the way you did with your "double dangerous" post. If you can get the vaccine after having the flu, you can certainly get it after being exposed to it. IF she was exposed to it. Not every illness this year is going to be h1n1. If you don't want to get the vaccine, that's your choice... but there are people who absolutely NEED to get it, whether they're afraid or not. Last edited by Tril; 10-26-2009 at 04:48 AM..

10-26-2009, 07:40 AM	#22
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10-24-2009, 10:25 AM	#2
jem51 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: south central OR Posts: 2,523 Gallery: jem51 Stats: oh so happy at 120 WOE: EFGT Start Date: controlled carb '97-98	not fawn but D3. when i first stated (after testing), i just went to the grocery outlet and bought what was on the shelf which was 1000mg. i took 2 daily and in 2-3 mos, i was in a good range. right now i am taking 2000mg twice daily which comes from puritans pride. i know that many peop take more than that but it seems to work well for me. on your next labs have your doc order the test. D3 is not an expensive supplement.

10-24-2009, 10:41 AM	#3
Tril Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Maine Posts: 169 Blog Entries: 6 Gallery: Tril Stats: 49 yo, 5'4", CW 131.5, highest adult wt 225 WOE: current: low carb (<20) Start Date: started controlling carbs Nov 04	"right now i am taking 2000mg twice daily which comes from puritans pride. " Me, too!!! One in the morning and one at night... on the days I don't get any sun. Most days I walk about an hour and that's enough to generate my own Vit D. But on the days I don't get natural sunlight I supplement. The RDA isn't enough, especially if you don't get any sunlight and/or you wear sunscreen. If you use sunscreen you should be supplementing every day. I saw on TV the other day that the number one risk for infertility is smoking... both for women and men. Folic Acid is something you should be taking now, too.

10-24-2009, 11:20 AM	#4
ga_kimmie Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 665 Gallery: ga_kimmie Stats: 179/157/120 WOE: Atkins - Whole/Natural Foods Start Date: August 12, 2009	Butting in... Take at least 1000 mg vit D daily. I take the vitamin shoppe brand softgels. Also start taking a prenatal vitamin now with at least 800 mcg of folic acid. If you're interested in reading more about getting pregnant, Taking Charge Of Your Fertility is an awesome book.

10-24-2009, 11:26 AM	#5
Blood Sugar 101 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New England Posts: 2,417 Gallery: Blood Sugar 101 Stats: 1998-2009 170/142/145---2010 138/138 WOE: 80-100g per day. Metformin/Fast acting Insulin Start Date: First LC diet 1998, goal 2003, continual vigilance	Dr. Davis of the Heart Scan blog says that the oil based Vitamin D pills are the best. I use the ones from Walgreen's store brand (Finest Natural) and have been getting my levels tested by the doctor. 1000 to 2000 IU a day put me at 51 which is the level at which the benefits kick in. Dr, Davis also says the expensive versions are often less effective than the cheap ones, and that you should avoid Vitamin D2.

10-25-2009, 11:02 AM	#7
fawn Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 12,954 Gallery: fawn Stats: sz 18/4 WOE: Whole organic foods Start Date: February 7, 2000	You only uptake about 40% of D2. I am advising Vitamin D3 Drops. Whether it be Carlsons or another brand, as Jenny mentions, oil based is superior. I take 4000IU daily myself. That's my h1n1 vaccine! I also take 1tbs. cod liver oil daily and would recommend that for anyone wanting to obtain a healthy pregnancy. It is said that the mother who ingests CLO during pregnancy, has a more intelligent child. Yes, folic acid is important with all B vitamins. Nutritional Yeast is one of my favorite booster foods.

10-25-2009, 11:06 AM	#8
SweetPoison2 Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 10,561 Gallery: SweetPoison2 Stats: 246/234/180 WOE: LC Start Date: June 09	Do you take the drops, Fawn? I almost bought some VitD3, at Kaiser the other day while I was picking up the Tamiflu for my daughter who has H1N1, but I could not remember if a 3 WAS attached to it. Been a horrible last four days for her. Now I am so paranoid. Tomorrow morning I was going to go and get the H1N1 shot as fast as my car will drive me. But you are saying take VitD instead?

10-25-2009, 11:12 AM	#9
fawn Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 12,954 Gallery: fawn Stats: sz 18/4 WOE: Whole organic foods Start Date: February 7, 2000	Marie, it's D3. Be careful with the tamiflu. There are also some very negative reports on that with neurological side effects.

10-25-2009, 03:43 PM	#10
Annabelle Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island,NY Posts: 655 Gallery: Annabelle	I just heard on a nutrition show to take the d with a fatty meal...is that right? I take before bed but will change if need be. Thanks!

10-25-2009, 03:57 PM	#11
fawn Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 12,954 Gallery: fawn Stats: sz 18/4 WOE: Whole organic foods Start Date: February 7, 2000	With or around a fatty meal. Remember, your fat soluble vitamins A, D, E & K must be delivered to adipose tissue in fat at the small intestine. Your water solubles, are used and remainder passed through urine. B and C. This is where the low/non fat era damaged us. Vegetables without a fat are basically just fiber.

10-25-2009, 04:00 PM	#12
Annabelle Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island,NY Posts: 655 Gallery: Annabelle	ok, so basically if I take it with a meal low in fiber I'll be ok..(and some fat)? My D has been VERY low and the Dr. wants me to take 1500 mgs but didn't say when or how...typical huh! Of course I didn't think to ask!

10-25-2009, 04:07 PM	#15
Annabelle Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island,NY Posts: 655 Gallery: Annabelle	Oh ok great! Thanks so much

10-25-2009, 06:26 PM	#17
jem51 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: south central OR Posts: 2,523 Gallery: jem51 Stats: oh so happy at 120 WOE: EFGT Start Date: controlled carb '97-98	you can get the effect by taking the non fat based D3 w a meal that contains fat. go for what's affordable and then decide. don't let price hinder the importance of this supplement. it works great for me and is my h1n1 vaccine as well.

10-25-2009, 07:08 PM	#18
fawn Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 12,954 Gallery: fawn Stats: sz 18/4 WOE: Whole organic foods Start Date: February 7, 2000	I'm doing a great deal of research right now as I will be on a local radio show on Tuesday discussing this. You can stream it live if anyone would like to listen. Just let me know. Marie, in my research, you've been exposed to H1N1 which now makes it double dangerous for you to get the vaccination. As Jem stated, D3 is your vaccination.....

10-25-2009, 07:31 PM	#19
Annabelle Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island,NY Posts: 655 Gallery: Annabelle	I'd love to try and listen! Just let me know how,OK?

10-26-2009, 08:06 AM	#24
Tril Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Maine Posts: 169 Blog Entries: 6 Gallery: Tril Stats: 49 yo, 5'4", CW 131.5, highest adult wt 225 WOE: current: low carb (<20) Start Date: started controlling carbs Nov 04	A healthy immune system can help your body fight off viruses (as well as good hygiene practices)... vitamins can bolster your immune system. So in that way, you could probably deduce that "vitamins fight viruses". To say that taking certain vitamins will PREVENT infection... I think that's a stretch.

10-26-2009, 02:39 PM	#30
Tril Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Maine Posts: 169 Blog Entries: 6 Gallery: Tril Stats: 49 yo, 5'4", CW 131.5, highest adult wt 225 WOE: current: low carb (<20) Start Date: started controlling carbs Nov 04	SP2, was your daughter actually tested for H1N1? Around here they're only testing people admitted to the hospital for flu. Otherwise, they aren't doing the specific test to determine which flu you have.