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Old 07-28-2009, 01:03 PM   #181
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Well, maybe difficult but not unhealthy. there are some major marathon runners here ( not this thread I don't think) who run low carb.

Ha! If they are hitting the bars often enough, those six packs are gonna turn into milk jugs eventually!

Congrats on the great losses, and Wow, I can't imagine running that much ( if at all, I need to get in shape . ..) It will be interesting to see how the CLA works for you.

Welcome to the thread!

ETA: Some folks here follow no carb, but the ones I know of who do, do so for health reasons, in that they are avoiding symptoms and making their health better by avoiding all carbs. You, OTOH, could follow low carb and still eat carbs up to the level you don't gain, but You might already be doing that. Some folks can eat up to 100g or more carbs per day and still be considered low carb because is less than the 300g/day recommendation of the Food Pyramid. Just sayin' . . .
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Thanks for the info; I was always told carbs are needed for running, so I eat a good amount. I don't carb load, but I do eat about 200g / day. I've always found the paleolithic / caveman diet appealing if only because I like hiking and getting away from modern conveniences, so I might give that a try. I already eat a lot of nuts - about 800 of my calories come from nuts.

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LOL! Sorry Metqa....Doesn't mean this would happen to you but you can always be safe and prepare for it!
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hey everyone! Been a few weeks since I checked in. Still here, and keeping busy. Well the good news is that the combo worked great for me for a few months.. the bad news is that it quit working. I haven't lost any inches for about 3 or 4 weeks.. I have increased the cla to 6 capsules and borage oil to 5 capsules. Been on that regimen for 2 weeks. I still eat low carb with the exception of one day every few weeks that I eat what I want. I take fish oil with my meals when I remember. My belly feels like it is getting the pooch back, although it doesn't measure larger. What now? Does the coconut oil work with the combo? I still have fat that I want to get rid of. Any suggestions? Does the combo stop completely after awhile?
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hey everyone! Been a few weeks since I checked in. Still here, and keeping busy. Well the good news is that the combo worked great for me for a few months.. the bad news is that it quit working. I haven't lost any inches for about 3 or 4 weeks.. I have increased the cla to 6 capsules and borage oil to 5 capsules. Been on that regimen for 2 weeks. I still eat low carb with the exception of one day every few weeks that I eat what I want. I take fish oil with my meals when I remember. My belly feels like it is getting the pooch back, although it doesn't measure larger. What now? Does the coconut oil work with the combo? I still have fat that I want to get rid of. Any suggestions? Does the combo stop completely after awhile?
Unfortunately, it did for me! But it sounds like it's working again for Trisha! Maybe all you need is to cycle off of it for awhile then start back up. If I remember correctly you had a baby too right? ***Cover your ears Metqa*** ... Again, I'm not totally convinced that all women can get that same body back after children. I feel like I have toned up pretty much everywhere (recent pic included) but my belly is giving me a hard time! Everyone seems to have a routine they like. Mine is HARD CORE training 5 or 6 days a week but I pretty much eat whatever I want. In and Out Burger (not protein style) today! I also take CO, Acytel L-Carnatine and Green Tea. I believe these things make a difference in tearing down body fat. Good luck!

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Thanks for the info; I was always told carbs are needed for running, so I eat a good amount. I don't carb load, but I do eat about 200g / day. I've always found the paleolithic / caveman diet appealing if only because I like hiking and getting away from modern conveniences, so I might give that a try. I already eat a lot of nuts - about 800 of my calories come from nuts.

Thanks again
I thought that too, but I started reading about runners who went low carb and said their performance improved.

Trish I've got a persistant bulge, I'm hoping I can get off by other means. I think I'm probably not gonna have kids so I'll have that in my favor at least. I already have stretch marks though! TMI

Chic you are looking as hawt as usual!
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Old 07-28-2009, 09:38 PM   #187
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Greenjoy, you've done so well so far. I hope it doesn't really stop or else I'm in trouble for sure. I can't even stay on it consistently. About to start back.
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Thank you Metqa
So I got to thinking about the CO and the yogurt mix you were talking about. I tried it with some sugar free jello pudding and it was sooooo scrumpsh! Try that sometime and give your taste buds a party.

Trisha...I lost track. Have you left on your trip yet?

Speaking of trips, we are headed to Lake Havasu very soon. You and Tom need to meet us out sometime. I know you have friends there!
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Down 12-3/4 inches since 7/10, BMI is down 1.10 !!!!
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Thank you Metqa
So I got to thinking about the CO and the yogurt mix you were talking about. I tried it with some sugar free jello pudding and it was sooooo scrumpsh! Try that sometime and give your taste buds a party.

Trisha...I lost track. Have you left on your trip yet?

Speaking of trips, we are headed to Lake Havasu very soon. You and Tom need to meet us out sometime. I know you have friends there!
That sounds delicious..

They leave Friday.

Hopefully she an I get a chance to get together before she goes back to work.
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chic, I don't understand why its working for me again, but it is. It works so differently for everyone. For me, I know I am losing inches by the way my shorts keep falling down. I take a few step, and have to pull them back up. I went to get a smaller size but they already have winter stuff out, no more summer stuff !! I better get a belt before I embarass myself on the golf course . Anyway, with me, the scale stays put for a long time , which is good that it doesnt go up, but then I'll get a whoosh and lose a few pounds and hold that weight for a few more weeks before it happens again. My Dr. is very pleased with my progress so far. She likes slow and steady.
Both my kids weighed over 8 lbs at birth. Although my starting weight before pregnancy was 117 and I haven't been below 137 since then, my belly did go away completely. I thought I was fat at the time, but people used to pinch me and tell me there wasn't an ounch of fat on me anywhere. What I wouldn't give to be that size again lol. Of course, that was before my neck injury and I was shoveling rocks every night and stayed it really good shape.

dixiegal, woohoo you go girl !!! Thats Fantastic progress !!!

Kim, whatcha doin tomorrow? Maybe we can do lunch then? Chrissy and I have been going to the tanning bed to get a base tan before Florida so we don't burn up. We will be in town tomorrow for our last session.

Kim is correct, we leave for Florida Friday morning and will be back on the 10th. Just in time for high school orientation that evening and school physical Tuesday. School starts Aug 12

Toms dad gave me a pull cart for my golf bag. It "was" black, but guess what color it is now ?? You got it....Pink !! I spray painted it bubblegum pink, and Tom found a can of kinda pearlized clearcote to spray over it to give it a sparkle in the sun. Its soooo pretty !! I'll have to take a picture for you. We got the pink grips on my clubs too. I can't wait to hit the course !!

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Great job everyone!

I have another question. Does either CLA or GLA prevent fluid from accumulating in fat cells? It doesn't seem possible that after just 2 days, my abs would look more defined from fat loss, so I'm guessing it's less fluid retention, but I haven't lost any weight. Even if they just reduce excessive fluid, it's well worth the price. My brother works at GNC and was able to get me 180 CLA 1000 softgels for $18, so I just bought him dinner at Mongolian Barbecue which is great for low carb since you can get about 200g of protein and 0g of carbs as you just load up a bowl full of fish, chicken, and beef.
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Thats the beauty of this combo. I don't know how it works exactly, but it does define the waist . I'll see if I can dig up the research on just how it does work.
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How Does It Work?
Although researchers are still trying to figure out this very question, the leading CLA researcher, Michael W. Pariza from the University of Wisconsin-Madison, suggests, "In a general sense, what CLA is doing is keeping little fat cells from getting big... perhaps by blocking certain enzymes that let fat cells swell."

Regardless of how it works, research shows that CLA is very safe to use because it's a naturally-occurring fat. It's even found in trace amounts in foods like cheese and meats, but not in high enough amounts to have a positive effect.
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CLA (conjugated linoleic acid)

To understand the true benefits of Tonalin CLA,
we must also unlock the mysteries behind CLA
itself. To do this, we have gathered below some
of the most common questions asked about using
Tonalin CLA as a CLA supplement.
1. What is CLA?
LA stands for “conjugated linoleic acid”. It is
a fatty acid known for promoting good health.
This was first identified by Dr. Michael Pariza
in 1978 while he was studying beef extract as a
cancer prevention. What he found instead
provoked a surge of research and scientific
studies into the benefits of CLA as a fat
reducer. After looking at decades of research
scientists have found that CLA may in fact help
the body to deposit less fat, build more muscle
and may even help prevent fat cells from
refilling.
2. How does CLA work?
LA actually works within your body in 4
different ways:
First: Your body contains an ezyme called
lipoprotein lipase or LPL. This enzyme actually
breaks down fat from your diet which is then
stored in your body. CLA naturally suppresses
this ezyme and decreases LPL activity which
results in your body deposting and storing less
fat overall.
Second: CLA decreases the size and the number of
fat cells in your body, otherwise known as
adipocytes.
Third: There is a natural process going on
within your body that causes fat cells to
disintegrate. This process is called “cell
suicide” or the more clinical term, “apoptosis”.
CLA increases your body’s apoptosis rate (rate
at which fat cells disintegrate) thereby
decreasing the number of fat cells that will be
stored in your body.
Fourth: Another enzyme called carnitine
palmitoyltransferase or CPT, transports fatty
acids which are turned into the energy you need
to keep going. There have been some additional
studies that show a CLA supplement can increase
your body’s CPT activity. As a result, fat is
burned up faster.
Here are a few tips other users have found to
help minimize any potential side effects of
Tonalin CLA:
1. Do not take on an empty stomch. The
recommended daily dose for optimum efficeinecy
is 3,000-4,000 mg per day. CLA supplements are
available in doses of about 500mg to 1300mg.
Therefore, it is wise to split the recommended
daily dosage into 3 servings and take each one
with your main meals.
2. Drink lots of water throughout the day.
3. Eat smaller meals more often during the day.
A common schedule many users adopt is to eat
approximately every 2-3 hour interval for a
total of 5-6 times per day. This would give you
a meal, snack, meal, snack, meal and maybe
another very light snack. Your last meal or
snack should be eaten 3 hours before your
bedtime.
4. If you do not adhere to a regular exercise
routine, you will notice increased benefits if
you include extra activity in your daily
routine. Take a walk in the evening or early
morning. Take the stairs instead of the
elevator. Park in the farthest corner of a
parking lot and walk the extra steps to the
store. Jog up and down the stairs when heading
to the basement to do your laundry.
Though side effects of Tonalin CLA are rare,
they have been reported to occur in some users.
All of these little added activities and
additional tips practiced throughout the day
will add up. Use them to greatly enhance the
postive effects without adding any negative side
effects when taking Tonalin CLA as a CLA
supplement.
Final notes on Tonalin CLA
A balanced, healthy diet and exercise regime is
an important combination to add to the
effectiveness of supplementing with Tonalin CLA.
No pill in the world is a fix-it-all solution
and will do NOTHING for you, if you’re still
going to sit on the couch all day and stuff
yourself full of high fat foods and junk.
Be sensible.
Eat healthy, add in some daily exercise and
supplement your diet with Tonalin CLA. The
results and your better health will then speak
for themselves. Aren’t you worth it?

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GLA (Gamma-linolenic acid)

People lost between 9-to-11 pounds in 6 weeks
while taking GLA during a study done by Dr Mri -
a researcher and consultant at the Welsh
National School of Medicine in Cardiff and the
good & bad news about most studies involving GLA
is That You have to be at least 10-to-20%
overweight to see any results but...
GLA prevents weight gain in people who've lost
weight plus GLA is also an appetite suppressant
since it raises the levels of serotonin (and
serotonin is a hormone that makes you feel full
and eat less) and...
GLA raises your metabolism by making the "Brown
fat" in your body burn calories to keep your
body warm.
Brown fat (or Brown Adipose tissue) is not the
same as the ugly "white" fat that accumulates on
your arms, belly, thighs and other problem areas
- Brown fat's main job is to burn fat calories
for energy to keep your body warm but usually
brown fat is not as active in overweight people
and that's why you need GLA so you can "turn on"
Brown fat so it can help you burn off the ugly
"white" fat
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Hey Running, I found one of the articles.

High fat diet doesn't harm runners' health


Trish, thanks for the data!
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Thanks metga and Trish,

My diet is currently about 30%, 35% 30%, 5% of fat, carbs, protein, alcohol so I guess lowering my carbs to 20% and upping the fat and protein to 37% would be a good idea. The alcohol comes from a couple of drinks a night of either red wine or beer which is supposedly good for your heart anyway. Metga, I do have to agree with the total number of calories when exercising. The only time I've ever noticed carbs help exercise is when I eat a bagel or other high glycemic carbohydrate before a 5K race, I can hold top speed longer. For longer workouts or runs that go more than 30 minutes, it really doesn't matter. They say your body has to switch to only using fat and breaking down muscle mass if your workout lasts longer than 1.5 hours anyway.

BTW - I've started taking L-Arginine and L-Carnitine and Resveritrol as these are also suppose to increase fat metabolism, so we'll see if that helps.
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Running....You really do run a bunch! Shoot I run about 3-5 miles, 3 days a week and I thought I was hitting it hard. Do you do other activities besides running? I find my kickboxing to be such a good workout. There is no other cardio training that I do that pushes my heart rate as much as that. I'll be sweating so much in my MMA gym that I actually find myself completely dripping. During it's greatest intensity I get a high feeling. Endorphines I'm sure.

Trisha....I'm really happy it's working for you again! Now just imagine how much more you'd be burning if you did some kind of activity that got your heart rate up.

Metqa....Are you still doing those video exercises?

Kimlou....What do you do for fitness?
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:blush: Are you insinuating, I am a couch potato ?














Just kidding.

I have a few workout videos. Couple dance ones. ( I am dance challenged, coordination, I have none) When I don't go to the gym.

The rehab center here lets you use their facility for 4 days a week 20.00 a month (no contract) It is 8 minutes from the house. If go to any other facility it is a 30-45 minute drive. i live in the country. I miss being close to everything.
I will be doing rehab on my hand there for about 6 weeks so I get to use the facility free, and my insurance has to pay .
I also have a 90 lb lab who likes to walk, and since we live in a place that has plenty of hills,we walk at least 3 times a week there. But we walk everyday.

Hopefully, we won't meet the bear.
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Kim, have you seen the bear lately? I've been reading about mountain lions in the area too on the Maysville boards , so be careful !!!

chic, does golf count?:blush: I'll be swimming laps all next week

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Kimlou.... Nope! Definately does NOT sound like your a coach potato! That's a great deal for a workout place/gym.. I only wish my gyms were that inexpensive.

Trisha.... Well uhmmmm.....that depends on whether you are walking 19 holes or if your riding in a golf cart! If you feel your heart rate going faster, you're doing something right. Bet you look fab with those pink golf clubs!
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Trish-----No, I hear he's around Vanceburg Hill, which backs up to the property behind me. Mountain Lion. An XSIL was sitting for her GD (Menifee Co) about 3 years ago. The gd lived next door and was walking to XSILs house. They looked up nad there was a Mountain Lion in the tree watching her. She is like your gd, small and healthy.
They were afraid to tell her to run, after she got in the house..... lets just say it disappeared () don't know if it is illegal or not

Chic----- I am pleased with the place, it seem to have just about everything the gyms I have been to have. Except that sexy trainer with the initals HD
(for the Harley he rode). He was an insiration, he had lost 125lbs and was buff. If I walk I have to go to Maysville. The walk trail in Vanceburg is the main street downtown and around 2 blocks (1 of them is the local lockup). Hick town !!!
My dog hates it when I do the dance videos, he looks at me like . Yep, I knew it, shes crazy !
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There is ALWAYS that ONE physical trainer that gives you butterflies upon entrance of the gym. I really believe that they inspire you to come in and get fit! Mine doesn't work there anymore so my anxiety level has come down quite a bit!

at your dog thinking you are crazy while doing your videos! Priceless.
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Trish----- MORE RAIN !!!!!!
The branch beside my house is at it again. I've already taken my car out once today. Then the water went down, brought it back, and now it is pouring again.
Dh won't be back until tomorrow evening. Going to be along night.


BTW---- just saw your post... I am off to have some test done before my surgery next Thursday. Dh will be taking me, then on vacation the next week. Lord by them I'll be. He loves me and means well, but .
Pass the pain meds....
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I just hope we dont get rained out in Florida again. It better not follow us from here , we have had enough already !!!

Metqa, we will wave at you going through Georgia . We will probably get a room on the other side of georgia and get an early start Saturday. I dont think either of us can drive straight through, and get there at a descent hour. 14 hours isnt too long a drive but we want to miss all the rush hour traffic in Atlanta
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Old 07-29-2009, 08:01 PM   #209
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They say your body has to switch to only using fat and breaking down muscle mass if your workout lasts longer than 1.5 hours anyway.
You mean like those multi day cross country marathon type deals? Yeah, I guess you'd need endurance. I still think about Forrest Gump alot, how he just started running one day and then just stopped.

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Metqa....Are you still doing those video exercises?
the japanese morning exercise yes, but I've been lax about the belly dance and my denise austin. I've been pretty much hiding in my house since this time last year, not exercising much at all, unless you count Rock Band.

and random spasms of bouncing and spinning about . . .


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Metqa, we will wave at you going through Georgia . We will probably get a room on the other side of georgia and get an early start Saturday. I dont think either of us can drive straight through, and get there at a descent hour. 14 hours isnt too long a drive but we want to miss all the rush hour traffic in Atlanta
GOOD LUCK! I hope they haven't decided to do construction all along the road you need to travel like they did to me last week. couple of weeks ago, all of I-20 was shut down and they wanted five lanes to become two lanes one of which was the shoulder. I took detour roads all the way home!

It takes about 14 hours to drive a fully loaded U-haul truck from Illinois to Georgia . . .

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Old 07-29-2009, 08:08 PM   #210
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Maybe I should just start wearing corsets.


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