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Old 03-06-2009, 08:24 PM   #91
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So glad I saw this thread!

My dr said just last week that my vitD is low. He gave me a prescription for the next 6 weeks, 3 a week of some strong vitD pills (I forget the dose) but then after that I'm just supposed to buy some, 1,000mg I think, and take one a day.

I'm in upstate NY - we have sun for like 2 weeks a year if we're lucky and I'm allergic to sunlight anyway (that doesn't stop me - I still go out in it and get itchy and speckled )
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Old 03-07-2009, 10:59 AM   #92
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Make sure that mega dose he is giving you is D3 and not D2.

Also 1000 IU/day might stop you from getting rickets, but it isn't an optimal dose. You use something like 5000 IU/day.
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Hi there... i am new to this, so sorry if I am doing this wrong, but i have a question: There is very little sun where i live so I was told that i would benefit from vit d... but I have also read that it reduces thyroid function (I have hashimoto's). Any ideas?
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:16 PM   #94
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Hi there... i am new to this, so sorry if I am doing this wrong, but i have a question: There is very little sun where i live so I was told that i would benefit from vit d... but I have also read that it reduces thyroid function (I have hashimoto's). Any ideas?
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I have an excellent thyroid doctor (nonstickpam's doc) and he is putting me on Vitamin D 5,000 units which is pretty high so I definitely don't believe that it can interfere with the thyroid. I am hypothyroid also.
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Old 04-03-2009, 06:40 PM   #95
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I've never heard of D disrupting thyroid function.
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Old 04-09-2009, 05:22 PM   #96
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Me neither. SOY will disrupt your thyroid though.
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Old 04-15-2009, 03:39 AM   #97
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cool study Laura! yes, the list does go on and there is actually a study done by Esther John of the California Cancer Center. She claims that women who recieve regular UV light exposure reduce their risk of advanced breast cancer by 50%. This of course is in reference to the superior form of Vitamin D and that is from the sun.

I just purchased a tanning bed last week with UVB lights for this very purpose.
I have been thinking about getting one as well. I've tried to get in one thru the winter but would love one of my own.

The gym has a 10min (stand up one) ..

How do you know which is a good one to get and it's reliabilty and safety maintained.
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Old 04-18-2009, 02:36 PM   #98
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So glad I found this thread. I posted a similar question in the organic/natural eating forum.

I just started D3 this week. I have been taking 2000 iu a day, but think I will up it to 5000 at least until summer.

Looking for a UVB tanning bed at a nearby salon too.

Thanks for all the great info.
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I take calcium with D most days but also have a vit. D supplement that I use a once in a while. I have no idea if I am deficient though, I really should have that checked.
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Ileen, Mercola has some great information on his site. I can't link of course but he also has a database listed for "safe beds" in different areas of the nation.

I am going to go so far to say that Vitamin D levels are strongly correlated with cancer rates and I say STRONGLY, strongly.

Live as if you do have cancer to try and prevent it, that's my motto! There is so much cancer out there.....look at the board alone with some of our lovely members suffering.
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What is the difference between D3 and D? I noticed my vitamin D just says "D".
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ergocalciferol and cholecalciferol
The latter is the D3 the ergo is D2 from plant matter.

D3 is what we are referring to. Sun and supplementation
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I got Source Naturals D3 cholecalciferol and it is a powder inside a capsule. Am I supposed to get one with oil?
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Lay, that's a nice one......
Carlsons drops are a superior choice but you're doing good. I take Source Naturals as well as CLO.

Here's something I just added to my blog today from Science Daily.

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ScienceDaily (May 2, 2009) — A group of endocrinologists in Sydney have observed that very sick patients tend to have very low levels of Vitamin D. The sicker they are, the lower the levels.
Dr Paul Lee, Professor John Eisman and Associate Professor Jackie Center, researchers at Sydney's Garvan Institute of Medical Research, examined a cohort of 42 Intensive Care Unit (ICU) patients. Forty-five percent turned out to be Vitamin D deficient.

"Until now, the medical community has thought of Vitamin D deficiency as a chronic condition," said Dr Lee. "Little is known about its acute complications."

"Last year, we published several cases showing that Vitamin D deficiency can cause acute complications in the intensive care unit."
"Recently, Vitamin D has been recognised for its many roles beyond the musculoskeletal system. It has been implicated in diabetes, in the immune system, in cancers, in heart disease and in metabolic syndrome."

"Vitamin D appears to have roles in controlling sugar, calcium, heart function, gut integrity, immunity and defence against infection. Patients in ICU suffer from different degrees of inflammation, infection, heart dysfunction, diarrhoea and metabolic dysregulation – so vitamin D deficiency may play a role in each of these common ICU conditions."
"So we did a preliminary study and found that 45% of people in our ICU were Vitamin D deficient. There may be a bias, in that all patients were referred to endocrinology, so the numbers may not reflect the prevalence in a standard ICU cohort. However 45% is still a significant proportion.

When the team correlated the Vitamin D levels with a disease severity score, there was a direct correspondence between sickness and Vitamin D deficiency. In other words, the sicker someone was, the lower the levels of Vitamin D. Out of the 42 patients studied, there were 3 deaths. The 3 patients who died all had the lowest level of Vitamin D in the cohort.
"Perhaps when we are well, we have ways to compensate for organ dysfunction if we run low on Vitamin D," said Lee.

"But when we are very sick, the "sick organs" draw upon any vitamin D available to function properly, therefore we may need extra Vitamin D to maintain organ function during critical illness. However, at this stage, we don't know whether Vitamin D deficiency is just a marker of ill health, or whether it contributes to disease severity."

Lee believes that the study, while preliminary, is important because it highlights the fact that Vitamin D deficiency is common in intensive care units and is associated with disease severity.
The next step will be a randomised control study to investigate whether Vitamin D has benefits in critically ill patients. In simple terms, two groups of patients (who are evenly matched) will be treated, with Vitamin D added to the treatment of one group, but not the other. The outcomes will then be compared.

So should doctors be trying to raise the Vitamin D levels of their patients in the meantime?
Dr Lee hopes the randomised study may provide a more definitive answer to the question. "However, Vitamin D is very safe. It's inexpensive and has a very large safety window, making toxicity unlikely, unless there are underlying diseases causing high calcium. Giving vitamin D to severely deficient patients is very unlikely to cause harm. In addition, ICU patients are lying in bed for a long time, and are at risk of bone loss and osteoporosis. So if nothing else, Vitamin D will help protect their bones."

These findings will be published as a letter in the April 30, 2009 issue of theNew England Journal of Medicine.

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Old 05-04-2009, 03:52 PM   #105
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I just got some vitamin D3. It's um...NOW brand. I chose it because it had a LOT fewer ingredients than every other variety I looked at.

It's got 5,000 IU and says take one every three days. It's 1,250% of the RDA. LOL

Can I take one every day? Can I take cod liver oil (capsules) at the same time?

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I'm belatedly catching up on the Vitamin D story. I've just signed up at grassroots and am waiting for my test kit to arrive. I'm not starting to supplement until I get it, because I'd like to know my starting levels. Even the south of England is higher than 50 latitude, so sunshine isn't going to work all year round. I'll be trying to get out in the sun a bit more this summer to get started on boosting my vit D. The sun produces other stuff apart from Vit D, and nobody knows what the extra bits do, so I'm going to assume that nature knows best so far, and use that when I can.
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:11 AM   #107
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Those who have had a vit D blood test, what were your results? And, if you've improved your levels, how did you do it?

I've just sent my test back to grassroots, so I won't have the results for a while, but the average value for middle aged white Britons is about 20ng/ml, so I imagine mine will be quite low.
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Oh, I hate waiting! I didn't get my level tested. So, I guess I will never know. But i am curious what you find about yours. Please let us know.

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I hate waiting too! They say that you should expect the results in 2-3 weeks. I decided not to change my sun habits or supplementation before I did the test, because I wanted to know my starting point. Now I've done that, I'll start taking more vit D and getting out in the sun a bit (would you believe it's been sunny for the last week, but now we're back to standard grey skies ).

I'll report back when the test arrives. The D-action project tests every six months for five years, so you get plenty of chance to adjust your regimen to keep your vit D at the right level.
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My test came back at 41 ng which is just barely in range. I want to be in the 60-80 range. I had been taking a tablespoon of codliver oil (supplying 1200 iu of D3) since last fall. I started taking 5,000 in Mar and my doc ordered me a blood test for next week. Will see how it has improved and if we need to change the dosage. Then will have the Grassroots one in Sept to see how I fared over the summer.

I saw my doc last week for my yearly checkup and was scared to tell her how much D I have been taking - thought she would call me crazy. But, she is aware of the studies coming out and even said my 5,000 may not be enough. I was impressed. The word is getting out there to mainstream docs.
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I'll be really interested to see how your numbers have changed. It's very encouraging that the message seems to be getting out to doctors.

The UK recommends 10ug (400 IU) if you're pregnant, breastfeeding, or elderly, and nothing for anybody else, and food isn't supplemented (except margarine, to bring the levels up to about the same as butter), so even though we're way further north, there doesn't seem to be much sign of change here yet. They say there's little chance of harm at 25 ug (1,000 IU) or less. The report on low vit D in British adults was published in the American Journal of Nutrition, which makes you wonder if the British ones weren't interested!

I've started taking 4,000 IU a day, now I've done the test (even though I don't have the results yet). Once the results arrive, I'll adjust what I'm taking based on the estimate that 100 IU gives you a 1ng/ml increase on average, then I'll use the later tests to tweak as needed. I'll aim for around 60ng/ml (150 nmol/L) too.
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I won't get the results for another 3 weeks (my next doctor's appt). I will post as soon as I get them though. Also hope to have some good looking numbers for blood lipids.
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My test came back: 36 ng/mL. Although it is a bit low, it's actually better than I expected considering how far north we are, and that I don't spend much time outside, and tend to cover up. I must benefit from having very fair skin, and also, I had taken a bit of supplementation before I decided to do the test, so that would have raised the number a bit.

I'd like to get close to 60 ng/mL so probably 2,000 IU (50mcg) per day and a bit more sun will do it for the summer.
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I was just prescribed 50,000iu of VIT D for 8 weeks, then was told to go to 1000ui after the 8 weeks. I have read back through this thread and am assuming D3, not D is recommended. Thanks
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My dad has had extremely progressive rheumatoid arthritis for several years and has just begun being treated for it. (He couldn't afford it, but has now started going to the VA hospital.) It is very severe at this point.

His doctors put him on fifty thousand iu of vitamin D2. My heart sort of fell when I saw it was D2 on the bottle and not D3. I hope he is absorbing at least some of it. What I would like to do is get him a bottle of D3, but still... his condition is so serious I am not brave enough to throw out what his doctors are doing.
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Cassandra, can you get permission to speak with his Doc? He won't absorb the D2 and convert. It's 2 different compounds. One is ergocalciferol, the other cholecalciferol. Ch being the D3.

My 20 was tested by my request a couple of months back and her levels were a 26. Her Dr. prescribed a higher dosage so I now give her 5000 IU daily and will test in another 2 months.
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My D levels back! I have been supplementing with 5,000 D3 for almost 4 months. The level via Labcorp was 46.3. The range on Labcorp is 32-100 and they have a note "Recent studies consider the lower limit of 32.0 ng/ml to be a threshold for optimal health". I guess I should have been taking 10,000 per day. I was also doing some tanning during this time too.

Moral, you got to take A LOT of D3 folks! I am going to go up my dosage and test again in 4 or so months. I want my levels to be up in the 60-80 range as this is the level that seems to give the best protection from cancers.
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Okay my d level was 18 with the range being 32-100. Dr. gave me a script for 50.000ui d to take for 8 weeks and then told me to take 1000ui when finished the 8 weeks. I bought the source naturals D3 2000iu's per capsule. How many of these should I take? Thanks Jeanie
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You know Jean, I take 2000 mg. a day right now. Is the doc going to test you after the 8 weeks? I also take cod liver oil.
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Yay, Vit D! My husband and I each take 5000 mg. a day. I'm trying to get into the routine of slitting a 2500 mg capsule open and squeezing it into my kid's food each day, also. It's not hard to slip it in, right on the first bite of the PBJ or whatever. 'Sgotta be better for him than a chewable Flinstone or whatever kids' vit is loaded with fake stuff.
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