~*~Winter 2008 CLA/GLA...& Whatever Is Working For You !!!~*~

[kycowgirl]

This thread is for anyone wanting to know about the CLA/GLA combo "and" whatever plan is working for you !!!
Come join us and share your plan
[COLOR=magenta]Welcome" [/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Because of the potential for side effects and interactions with medications, dietary supplements should be taken only under the supervision of a knowledgeable healthcare provider.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=red]What is CLA/GLA?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA)[/COLOR][COLOR=blue]—to promote lean muscle while burning fat. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Gamma Linoleic Acid (GLA)—for its many beneficial effects in fighting muscle inflammation and supporting the immune system. From a fat loss perspective, GLA is vital in supporting the production of two strong fat burning hormones…growth hormone and the body’s primary calorie burning hormone, thyroid hormone. GLA should be taken with food [/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Most effective daily dose...[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]CLA 3400 mg (1/2 Tbsp liquid once a day, or 5 Tonalin or Spring Valley capsules) [/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]GLA 500-1000 mg (2-4 Borage Oil caps a day)[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]How does CLA work? [/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]A: CLA prevents fat from being deposited into the cells by speeding up the body's fat metabolism. CLA also helps the body metabolize existing fat deposits. This fat then returns to the blood stream where it is used as energy by muscle cells and the liver. CLA activates genes that trigger fat cell death, shrinks fat cells, speeds up metabolism.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]CLA Turns on Fat Breakdown Genes[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]CLA Boosts Endurance[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=red]How does GLA work?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]A: Numerous research studies have examined the role of GLA for improving health, specifically in the area of weight loss. GLA from borage oil causes less body fat to accumulate. Borage oil owes its healing power to the presence of essential fatty acids, the most important of which is GLA, an omega-6 fatty acid. (While borage oil is often used interchangeably with evening primrose oil, ounce for ounce, borage oil boasts more than twice as much GLA.) [/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Guidelines for Use [/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Taking borage oil with food may boost GLA absorption and minimize unpleasant side effects. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]If you take an anticoagulant (blood-thinning) medication, check with your doctor before trying borage oil. The are no other known drug or nutrient interactions associated with borage oil. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=indigo]Possible Side Effects ...[/COLOR]
[COLOR=indigo]Borage oil may cause loose stools and minor stomach problems.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Other benefits of Borage Oil...[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Reduce the symptoms of eczema and psoriasis[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Clear up acne and rosacea[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Alleviate inflammation associated with lupus[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Prevent nerve damage (neuropathy) due to diabetes[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Combat damage from multiple sclerosis[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Ease cough and soothe throat disorders[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Treat Alzheimer's-related memory deficiencies[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Reduce stress and high blood pressure[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Nourish nails, scalp, and hair[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Counter impotence and female infertility[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=red]CLA Q&A[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Is CLA Safe to Take With My Thyroid Medications?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]There's no evidence that CLA, a food supplement, interacts with thyroid medications, or poses any special dangers to thyroid patients. But you should always discuss any supplements you intend to take with your own physician or practitioner before starting. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Is CLA Only for People with Thyroid Problems?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Absolutely not. The studies have shown that it's effective in general for reducing/converting fat. You don't have to have a thyroid problem -- you just have to be overweight -- to benefit from CLA. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]How Much Should I Take?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]The study found that 3.4 grams of CLA was needed in order to get the benefits. That's 3,400 mg. Since the various formulas contain a percentage of other oils as ingredients, it's wise to probably calculate how much each pill is delivering to make sure you're getting the full 3.4 grams a day. For example, if your capsule contains 75% CLA, and it's 1000 mg, then you're getting 750 mg of CLA, and would need 5 per day to get to the 3.4 grams level. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]How Should I Take It?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]The various recommendations differ here. Some recommendations suggest to take it before eating. Others suggest to take it with meals. Take it preferably with lowfat or nonfat milk for maximum protein absorption. Personally, I'm taking it right before I eat with some Calorie Countdown milk.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]Does CLA Have Any Side Effects?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]Some people report feeling slightly green or nauseous after taking their CLA, or isolated cases of gastrointestinal upset or loose stools. These side effects typically are reduced when the product is taken with protein (i.e.,with milk), and usually decrease after about 2 weeks taking the supplement.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=mediumturquoise]Usually, in the first three weeks, the abdominal fat "pooch" starts shrinking. Other "fattier" areas (such as cheeks, upper arms, rear end) seemed to be slowly reducing as well. You may notice that your appetite is somewhat reduced. You may feel a bit green after taking the CLA the first couple days, but if you take it with milk, or protein it should eliminate that problem. [/COLOR]
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[COLOR=teal]Some may prefer the liquid CLA from Netrition. One bottle which is $19.99 lasts a full month. You just take 1/2 Tbsp a day to get your full dose. You may also prefer to get your Borage Oil from Netrition. It has a higher GLA content, so less pills to take, and more pills per bottle than other brands. So by getting your combo from Netrition, its alot cheaper than taking all the caps from other stores. [/COLOR]
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[COLOR=darkorchid]On the first of each month you can post progress pics with your cla/gla results. You will not be pressured to post them if your not comfortable doing so. Some of us feel we stay more accountable if we do, and it helps that others can see good changes in the update pics that we cannot see ourselves. If you choose not to post them, thats ok, but please take them anyway for yourself to compare updates with. Thats where you will see the changes. [/COLOR]
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[COLOR=red]If you're taking CLA, don't take your Omega-3s at the same time. They will compete against each other for absorption. Leave at least a 3 hour window when taking both.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=red]If you take an anticoagulant (blood-thinning) medication, check with your doctor before trying borage oil[/COLOR]
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Tonalin CLA-1200 (Natrol) $13.99
Serving Size: 1 softgel
Servings Per Container: 90
Tonalin Proprietary Blend Conjugated linoleic acid 1,200 mg
3 a day
Natrol CLA
Cla Plus with Clarinol $19.99
Serving Size: 1/2 Tablespoon a day
Servings per Container: 30
Conjugated linoleic acid: 3400 mg
Clarinol CLA Plus
ThinFat (VPX) $17.95
Serving Size: 7.5ml (1/2 tablespoon)
Servings Per Container: 32
VPX*ThinFat
NOW Borage Oil $14.99
Serving Size: 1 softgel
Capsules Per Container: 120
Gamma Linoleic Acid (GLA) 240 mg 2-4 a day
NOW Foods Borage Oil

[metqa]

Here!

Welcome Back.Glad it was a safe trip there and back!

I think my funk is that I spent so much "loving" time and effort for the gifts I give and they don't get used or appreciated. this year, I'm just going minimalist and trying to just spend time associating with my kin folk. I'm pretty much broke compared to them anyway so it should go unnoticed.

I want to celebrate Solstice but nobody is game. They all think I'm weird.

[mikkimouse]

Bump im here!.. BBL

[luckiangel]

I"m here for the new season!

Mikki- i have been meaning to tell you that your avi is beautiful!

Chic - hope you all have a great holiday as well.

Trish - i agree.....i think the holiday is too commercialized as well.

metqa - i'll celebrate solstice with you!!! hope you won't let everyone else keep you from celebrating.

[metqa]

Hey Mikki!
Hey Lucky!

I just made a batch of cream cheesecake mini muffins. they are in the oven now. My sour cream went . . .sour Real Bad. Pink spots, scary. Anyway I used cottage cheese and I don't know if that was an okay substitute. :Laugh: We'll see ...

Y'know this Solstice thing really interests me. It seems like it should technically be the begining of the new year since the nights stop getting longer and the daytime slowly comes back. But unfortunately the next few months end up in the cold part of the orbit so it's like death in some parts of the world. Maybe the Vernal Equinox, in spring should be the new year. That's when you are sure whether last years perennials survived the cold. It's fun to think of stuff like that. So Solstice marks the beginning of the deadly cold season, the time of the maddening darkness, the start of personal spiritual and emotional trials . Hah, In another life or century I'd probably be an astrologist or shaman or something.

At some point a few years ago I postulated that winter would be the perfect time to diet for reduction. It's cold ( in some places)so you use more energy, like bears, and lose all the fat, and you can be done by spring , Swim suit season. I found a book called Lights Out which suggested the same thing using a low carb diet and sleeping when it's dark instead of staying up late

I couldn't get anyone to do the challenge with me. I think the thread is still here somewhere . . . No biggie. I think I'm gonna find and read that book again. I probably have different opinions about it now.

ETA: Those Poor Penguins!!!!

[iabowhunter]

I agree with you metqa. I find it easier to start back to LC on Jan 1st. It feels good to come off the holidays sugar high. What I really need to do is get it going RIGHT NOW and be strong through the holidays.

I hate the way I feel after a sugar rush. Makes me feel all icky and stuff.

[kycowgirl]

Glad to see some of you made it here so far. Trevas surgery is tomorrow and I will be staying at moms to be closer to the hospital, so I wont be back to post until late Friday night when we get home. Tom can pop in and give you an update until I get back. Thanks again for all the prayers and well wishes

[iabowhunter]

Originally Posted by kycowgirl

Glad to see some of you made it here so far. Trevas surgery is tomorrow and I will be staying at moms to be closer to the hospital, so I wont be back to post until late Friday night when we get home. Tom can pop in and give you an update until I get back. Thanks again for all the prayers and well wishes

Take care Trish! We'll be praying for you and Treva.

[Justachic]

I'm here too. for you and Treva. Keep the faith.

[metqa]

Let Treva Know that we're cheering for her

[kycowgirl]

Thanks again , y'all are the best , I'll pass your messages on to her

Going to bed now since I have to be up by 6am, g'nite my friends

[Justachic]

Just saying hello to everyone.......hope you all are havin a great day!

It stopped raining and the sun came out again. I like the rain but I think it should only rain from 2am to 5am then stop. Then rain for only 1 hour between noon and 1pm. Kinda like a sprinkler system. LOL

I'm going to go on an all protein diet for the next 3 days. Need to dump as much water as I can for Christmas. Just for the heck of it.

[iabowhunter]

Hey Chic!

No rain here but we may have some ice and snow later. The snow I don't mind but the ice, that's another story. If I didn't have 2 huge penn oaks 17 feet from my front door that might shed their icy branches on my roof and a wood burning stove to keep me warm when the power is out then I wouldn't mind the ice storms at all.

I like to sit out in the garage when it's raining and just watch it rain with a big glass of ice tea. I also like being outside in a good snow storm. It's quiet, peacefull and beautiful!

I need to do that 3 day protein diet too. It would really help me out.

One more day of work and I'm done for 3 weeks. If we get some nasty ice tonight, I'm ataying home tomorrow.

How's everyone else today?

[metqa]

Had a dream last night that my family was staying at the Hospital Hotel waiting for one of my cousins to get out of surgery. It was a successful surgery.

I Hope the nuances of the dream come true.

for Treva

No snow or cold weather here. 70 degrees and Muggy humid !

[iabowhunter]

We have ice!

[Justachic]

Below is Phil walking on the ice. Did you just say what I think you said???

YouTube - Penguin falls down.

Becareful what you try do on the ice there Phil!!!

YouTube - Cow slips on ice

[iabowhunter]

ROFLMAO!!!!!!

[tom_912]

Treva came through her surgery today with no complications she's sleeping tonight and comes home tomorrow. Trish will be able to update you better.

Thanks for all the prayers and support you are all the best!!

chick

[iabowhunter]

Thanks for the update Tom. Glad to hear she came through alright! I hope you all get a good nights rest tonight.


I at Chic too!

[iabowhunter]

It is amazing how much dust a kerosene heat will gather in one years time. I got it all cleaned up and running so it's ready if the power goes out. I don't think it will though. Not unless the wind picks up and gets the power lines rocking back and forth.

[metqa]

Originally Posted by tom_912

Treva came through her surgery today with no complications she's sleeping tonight and comes home tomorrow. Trish will be able to update you better.

Thanks for all the prayers and support you are all the best!!

chick

YaaaY ! Oh Yaaaayyy!!!!:coo l:

I've been having dreams about her. YaaaaaYYYY!!!!!

[luckiangel]

Originally Posted by metqa

Y'know this Solstice thing really interests me. It seems like it should technically be the begining of the new year since the nights stop getting longer and the daytime slowly comes back. But unfortunately the next few months end up in the cold part of the orbit so it's like death in some parts of the world. Maybe the Vernal Equinox, in spring should be the new year. That's when you are sure whether last years perennials survived the cold. It's fun to think of stuff like that. So Solstice marks the beginning of the deadly cold season, the time of the maddening darkness, the start of personal spiritual and emotional trials . Hah, In another life or century I'd probably be an astrologist or shaman or something.

way back when the soltice was celebrated every quarter by the druids and pagan societies. you were probably a high priestess with your knowledge! i don't think years were measured as much then as was the passing of time through the seasons as everything was measured through nature. in our way of thinking i would have to agree that the spring solstice probably brought in the "new year". The beginning of each season for us are the soltices.....funny how they are still represented huh???? each symbolized the end and beginning of a particular time.....the harvest, the hunt, etc etc.....celebration of life.

[Justachic]

Happy to hear Treva came through alright in surgery! What a relief for Trisha.......

[kycowgirl]

Hey everyone, We got home today around 3:30pm. Dr. said he didnt have to do as much as he thought he would. Treva is in alot of pain, but glad to be home. Her friend is coming to sit with her till Tom gets home so I can go to work tonight. Moneys getting kinda tight since we are helping her with her bills while shes down . Thank you all again so much for the prayers and well wishes. It means alot to me . She will be here for about 6 weeks while she recovers. She has 4 holes in her belly from the robot, so its hard for her to move around alot. I'll keep you updated

chic, those videos were

metqa, love those good dreams

[Justachic]

Welcome home Trisha.

[iabowhunter]

Thanks for the update Trish. Glad to hear that Treva is at home and I hope she feels better soon!

[kycowgirl]

Thanks chic and Phil. Change of plans tonight. Trevas friend couldnt come sit with her and shes not supposed to be alone for a few days, so I'm staying home tonight. Hopefully I will be able to go back to work Monday and get my holiday pay

[iabowhunter]

Hmmm...what was that cow in the second video tring to do?

[metqa]

Ohh that's naugty! :blush:

[luckiangel]

trish for treva's speedy recovery.