~*~June 2008 CLA/GLA...& Whatever Is Working For You !!!~*~

[ADLMA]

Mikki - Ya know? I have my good days and bad. I think the nausea is all done and over, but then I have a night like last. . .and find out I am about so wrong!! Thank you for asking, Galpal!!!!!

[michelemomof2]

Originally Posted by kycowgirl

I LOVE this picture and had to share

OMG!!!!!!!! Now THIS is a CUTE picture! I just LOVE it!

[michelemomof2]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

What a doll! What's his name?

Lisa, we named him Jake. My girls keep laughing and calling him Jake the snake because he crawls in the grass like a snake.

Thanks for the compliments on my puppy Mikki, Chic, ADLMA and Trish.

Kathy - I bet you can't wait to get your little puppy!

Trish - If I wore a bikini, I would get a tan like that comic pic!

Marsha - How are you?

[nurseypoo5]

Originally Posted by nurseypoo5

Hi I just bought the new tonalin that is 1200 mg (here on netrition). How many pills should i take? I've been taking 3, and 3 borage oil's.

Its only 90 pills and expensive, but i'm willing to take 4 if needed.

Thanks~

still waiting on an answer I also left this question on the forum here but no answer. Can anyone help?

[jimzgrl]

Originally Posted by nurseypoo5

still waiting on an answer I also left this question on the forum here but no answer. Can anyone help?

Hi nurseypoo5
kycowgirl did answer this back in post 128-

Originally Posted by kycowgirl

nurseypoo5, hi there, I remember you from way back when this thread first got started. welcome back. I take the 1200mg too, and I take 3 a day and 4 Now brand borage oil caps a day.

[kimlou]

Originally Posted by kycowgirl

I LOVE this picture and had to share

sooooo cute.

I am going to be a grandmother in July......... a girl.
Can't wait
Dh tells me I need to slow up on the shopping or she will have a new outfit for everyday of the week.


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I got my pooch a pool like that. He loves the water and is constantly in the branch beside our house. But he hates a bath . Going to try and give him a bath in the pool. Since every time you turn the hose on he charges you I am hoping it works.
Since I am still cleaning up from the flash flood a week ago I may have to lie in it myself.

Slipping out sorry for the threadjack.

[kycowgirl]

Thanks Kathy , I hate when someone feels ignored. Sometimes its easy to miss a post when there are so many behind it

Kim !!! Stop by any time gf. You got flooded ?? How bad?? I'm sorry to hear that . We went through your area last Sat night. We went to the auction in Southpoint. I used to have a pool just like that one for my dog Zip's bath. Worked out pretty good . Pop in more often and let me know how your doing. You always know where to find me
Congrats on being a new grandma !! Your going to love it !!! I want to see pics when shes here !!!

Good morning everyone else

[Justachic]

Originally Posted by kycowgirl

Thanks Kathy , I hate when someone feels ignored.

This is exactly why I LOVE ME some Trisha!!!
She's got a lotta !

[metqa]

Originally Posted by mikkimouse

ok all i have a ?.......i am gettin tired of takin these horse pills.......LOL... what happens if i stop takin them but remain LC? will i still loose?

Y'know, I've gotten tired of taking them too. I think it was when I added the GLA and bought a different brand of CLA which meant I had a lot more pills to take.

I got a crazy Idea! I don't know if the CLA/GLA has a flavor or not, but I may prick my capsules and add them to my coconut bark. I haven't gotten tired of THAT yet! Hahahaha Since it is an oil also it seems it would blend right in.

Oiv got some liquid bark waiting to be be frozen, I think Oil add the CLA tuit und see ow it tastes!

[metqa]

Hmm, that was strange. I had half a batch of cocoa bark syrup left so I put all four of the CLA caps and 2 of the the GLA caps in. and added a bit more cocoa, (since it was too sweet to begin with) Froze it and tasted it. It tasted the same. There wasn't as much snap to it as with 100% C.O.

I have no problem with the mouthfeel of coconut oil, but there was a sorta unpleasant oily residue in my mouth after eating a few pieces. And it also felt like my throat was irritated. I chugged a couple of gulps of milk to wash it down and was fine.

Hmm, I don't know if I want to mess with my bark like that. I am like the Oily Grease Queen and that bothered me a bit. I may have been that I tasted some bacon a little bit before and it was fat overload. I still have a few pieces left. I'll try them tomorrow morning and let you know how it turns out.

Getting tired of the pills I may invest in the Clarinol Liquid, but if it feels as gross as this did I'd be disappointed.

[Justachic]

Okay....I got some rather good news today from my doctor. As far back as I can remember I've had an irregular heart beat, that means my would skip a beat or add an extra one during it's beating rhythm. This morning I had to get some lab work done to check my thyroid levels and my doc said that it is now drumming to a normal beat! I'm just wondering why after all this time is it now acting normal. I thought my irregular heart beat was normal! Anyway by all means I'm not complaining. Just wondering if it could be all the freakin cardio I've been doing or maybe the combo has something to do with this. My positive thoughts about being healthy possibly? Hmmmm.

[kycowgirl]

chic, That is Wondeful news !!! Your positive attitude has some to do with it I would think. Did you ask him about the cla/gla?

metqa, Have you tried the 1200mg cla caps? you only need 3 aday. Thats what I prefer now (when I rememeber to take them)

I have been reading about a new cla called c9,t11 Conjugated Linoleic Acid...interesting !!! Do a search and see what y'all think

Presented by a group of scientists from Norway, the study showed that in
humans, 3,000 mg of c9,t11 Conjugated Linoleic Acid taken daily could
bring about an average 20.2% reduction in bodyfat, including a
significant reduction in abdominal fat.

[luckiangel]

Originally Posted by Justachic

Okay....I got some rather good news today from my doctor. As far back as I can remember I've had an irregular heart beat, that means my would skip a beat or add an extra one during it's beating rhythm. This morning I had to get some lab work done to check my thyroid levels and my doc said that it is now drumming to a normal beat! I'm just wondering why after all this time is it now acting normal. I thought my irregular heart beat was normal! Anyway by all means I'm not complaining. Just wondering if it could be all the freakin cardio I've been doing or maybe the combo has something to do with this. My positive thoughts about being healthy possibly? Hmmmm.

it's because you've been treating your body right!!!! WTG!!!!! KUTGW!!!!

[michelemomof2]

Way to go, Chic! I'm glad your heart is beating normal now.

[Justachic]

Thanks Trisha and Lucki and Michele....I'm feeling good. Seems that positive thoughts do someone good. Wishing an abundance in health to you gals!

[metqa]

Hey Awesome Chic! Is that something that normally fixes itself? I mean wow.

Trish, Well, I haven't found a CLA capsule that is that high with actual CLA. Hold on let me check my chart . . .

According to the nutrition labels . . .
Netrition's Brands: Horizon only has 740 CLA/cap, Kaizen has 800, Natrol is unspecified, Max CLA is 700, Now is 800/cap. The highest is clarinol liquid which is 3500 per dose. Puritan Prides Brand Tonalin Varies from 780-840 per cap so it technically (could have) has the highest dose of CLA per Oil Capsule.

The amount of oil is the capsule is not the same as the volume of CLA. Most of the time the CLA is a percentage of the contents around 70 - 80% of the oil contained. All of these would require at least 4 capsules and still be below below optimum (3500mg) , or 5 capsules and be way over. The Max CLA ,with 5 capsules, would only be 100 grams over dosage, whereas all the others are 300 - 800 mg off either under or over dosage. Puritan's Pride Tonalin with 4 capsules would only be 40 mg under dosed( if you assume 84% CLA per 100mg capsule), so I take that one. Wishful Thinking I suppose.

I found the Tonalin 1200, but while the label says it is 2000g of oil, the italic print says
78-84% Conugated Linoleic Acid . . .2000 x 84% / 2 capsules is only 840mg CLA per capsule . . .

Sorry . . .


Yeah, I'm a geek and actually compared this crap. . . .

BTW I heard of that New CLA but I lost the page, gotta go look it up again. It sounded really COOL!

[mikkimouse]

Congrats CHIC....... you have done very well..... I can attest to this. I was born with a hole in my heart, and everytime i was over anxious, or very stressed out ( high BP ) my heart would skip beats... made me light headed to the point where i had to sit down. and it became very scarry last summer. ( by the way my BP was like 156 over 85 alot ) now it is 108 over 75.... with no help from pills! This whole healthy LC thing deffinatly does a body good!!! and i havent had a skipping beats for months now!!! I feel great, im sure as do you chic!!! great job galpal!!!

[Justachic]

Metqa.....Heck, I really don't know if it's something that corrects itself! Oh if you find the info on the new CLA, could you post the link here? I'd love to read about it too.
Thanks!

[Justachic]

Originally Posted by mikkimouse

Congrats CHIC....... you have done very well..... I can attest to this. I was born with a hole in my heart, and everytime i was over anxious, or very stressed out ( high BP ) my heart would skip beats... made me light headed to the point where i had to sit down. and it became very scarry last summer. ( by the way my BP was like 156 over 85 alot ) now it is 108 over 75.... with no help from pills! This whole healthy LC thing deffinatly does a body good!!! and i havent had a skipping beats for months now!!! I feel great, im sure as do you chic!!! great job galpal!!!

Thanks Mikki....didn't know you had something like this too! Really glad you don't have the irregular thing anymore. It used to freak out all the nurses who would check my heart. I'd end up getting cardio grams (i think that's what they are called) only to be told it was normal for me. Stay healthy!

Gotta head out for another training session at the fight school.
Hugs to all~

[mikkimouse]

Here is what i found on it......




C9 T11
Review Summary
C9 T11 The diet industry is currently bombarded with products that make outrageous claims and promises. The dietary supplement C9-T11certainly seems to fall into this category. Not only does the manufacturer appear to claim that it can lead to a 700% gain in lean muscle mass, but there also seems to be a great deal of buzz made over the exclusive and rare ingredients found in the formula. In our experience, however, products that appear to be too good to be true often end up being just that. People who think this supplement may lead to ripped, cut muscles may very well be disappointed. Nonetheless, we will take a closer look at this formula to see what results it may provide.


Ingredients At A Glance
While C9-T11 seems to advertise itself as a miracle product containing very “secret” ingredients, from what we can tell, it may be little more than a Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA) supplement. This ingredient may have received a great deal of press lately, with purported abilities of potentially eliminating body fat while increasing muscle mass. Current research, however, seems to indicates that it may have little effect on body fat. Furthermore, the muscle-increasing results of this ingredient may be significantly exaggerated by the makers of C9-T11.


Ingredients In Focus
If this product does not contain any more ingredients, than we are not confident that it may lead to its advertised results. As mentioned, CLA may provide some dietary benefits, but it has not been shown to generate the gains in muscle mass that this company may claim. Furthermore, we feel this supplement may have little to no effect on body fat.

To get truly ripped and defined, a reduction in body fat is often needed to make muscles more visible. Consumers interested in supplementation should look into a formula that actually contains a fat burner to assist in producing this kind of result. We suggest the patented Advantra Z™, an ingredient shown to not only boost metabolism levels but also increase and sustain overall energy. This increased energy may also help in the gym and during lifting sessions.


Website
The C9-T11 product website appears to be full of seemingly outrageous claims and assertions. This company may cite real medical and sport journals, but it seems to misrepresent the information found in these publications. In fact, on the top of the product website, in bold, there appears to be the statement that users of this supplement may “Gain 700% more muscle in 7 weeks.” The company then appears to cite an article in Medical and Science in Sports and Exercise as their source for this rather outrageous claim. We find it hard to believe that such a reputable source would make such a claim, so when we looked up this article, we were not surprised to find that the conclusion for this cited study stated, “Supplementation with CLA during resistance training results in relatively small changes in body composition.” This may be the biggest warning available for products, such as C9-T11, that make outrageous claims. We strongly encourage potential customers to do their research prior to purchasing any product that seems to make claims that simply appear too good to be true.


Positives
• Product website posted online
• Product may currently be reduced in price



Negatives
• Formula may lack a patented fat burner
• Price may be relatively expensive
• Manufacturer appears to make unlikely promises and claims
• Product website may falsely cite research journals



Final Thoughts
In the end, we feel that C9-T11 may be little more than a scam. The product’s formula merely appears to contain CLA, which is a popular ingredient on the market that may be found in supplements for less than half the price of this product. Furthermore, we do not feel anyone should trust a manufacturer that appears to make unbelievable claims, all the while attempting to support their statements by potentially misrepresenting studies in research journals. We feel a company that would use such a marketing tactic would also not hesitate to sell a product to consumers that does not perform as advertised.

[nurseypoo5]

Originally Posted by jimzgrl

Hi nurseypoo5
kycowgirl did answer this back in post 128-

lol, oops, thanks Kycowgirl i searched twice and still missed it!

thats what i'm taking, so good.

[metqa]

Aw Mikki, that article is so Poo-Poo. Wah! I want a new super Product.


Ha, Why does every one talk about getting "ripped"? I don't wanna get ripped, it sounds painful I just want a nice shape. )

[nurseypoo5]

Originally Posted by metqa

I found the Tonalin 1200, but while the label says it is 2000g of oil, the italic print says
78-84% Conugated Linoleic Acid . . .2000 x 84% / 2 capsules is only 840mg CLA per capsule . . .

Sorry . . .


!

help, i dont get the math here. if were trying to get 84% of 2000 wouldnt that be much more than 840 per capsule? even 84% of 1200 is more than that (1000)

are we talking about the natrol brand? should i be taking 4 pills per day to equal around 4,000mg per day instead of 3,000?

[mikkimouse]

Originally Posted by metqa

Aw Mikki, that article is so Poo-Poo. Wah! I want a new super Product.


Ha, Why does every one talk about getting "ripped"? I don't wanna get ripped, it sounds painful I just want a nice shape. )

I dont want to be ripped either, just tone...tone dosent sound so harsh!

[metqa]

Originally Posted by nurseypoo5

help, i dont get the math here. if were trying to get 84% of 2000 wouldnt that be much more than 840 per capsule? even 84% of 1200 is more than that (1000)

are we talking about the natrol brand? should i be taking 4 pills per day to equal around 4,000mg per day instead of 3,000?

Um, lessee. . . That 84% is actually 1680mg, but that's for two capsules( The bottle I read said 2 capsules serving size. So if you divide that dose by two capsules you get only 840mg of CLA per capsule.

You are right that 84% or 1200 is 1008, but the Natrol brand that said 1200 claimed to have a proprietary blend of CLA and other oils. So it is not pure CLA, so it is not 1200mg of CLA. theres no way to know how much of it is actual CLA. Since it is the top ingredient it is probably as potent as the lesser percentages of other brands, but without knowing, it would be guess work. I suppose you could take 3 and if you see no results increase to 4.

It's splitting hairs really. But I got interested in the actual doses after seeing a product calling itself CLA Extreme, but it had much less CLA and a bunch of other ingredients instead.

[metqa]

Yeah, when I think of tones, I think of nice music. But I can seem to get the nicely toned body I want . . .maybe I'm tone deaf!


Well, I just had another two pieces of the Cocoa Bark with CLA/GLA oil added . . . and it definitely irritates my throat. I guess I'm back to the capsules.

It's not so bad taking the caps I just tend to forget, and that is a lot of caps to forget. I start my morning taking aminos which means I have to delay eating by 30 min , then I forget to eat, which means I forget to take the combo, then it gets late in the day and waah waah, it's time for bed, game over.

I have been on and off and I haven't measured in ages. I have been wearing pants that I couldn't before so I that's good, but I could do better.

I've started the onehundredpushup challenge for myself. BF thinks I can't do it, or shouldn't. ( Sheesh, He used to be one of my biggest cheerleaders. now that we're older its "oh be careful" "you shouldn't do that" ) I figure if I can't lift my body off the ground then I may as well stay there.

See ? That's me attempting push ups. just rolling about . . .

[ADLMA]

Chic - Great news!!!!! I knew you could do anything! You proved it! You truly are a special little someone!

Metqa - I agree. I just want to be firm, lean, and in shape again!! Also, please don't eat any more of that bark! I know for sure it burns one's throat. I found out over and over again. . .it burns it bad! I know taking a lot of horse pills ain't so fun, but pricking those bad boys ain't the answer!!

Mikki - Uuuuuuuhm, about Callan. Don't wanna kill ya, so forget what I said about doing Callan!!

Trish - Did you meat MG while you were on vacation? You may have mentioned it already, and I missed it. I was just curious.

MG - Wheeeeeeere aaaaaaare yooooooooouuuuuuu?

[kycowgirl]

chic, the site I saw it on was fireyourfat dot com / diets. Does seem too good to be true lol

metqa, thanks for all the info. I am terrible at figuring out that stuff. I'm going to up my cla to 4 caps a day.

nurseypoo5, your very welcome. I've missed posts myself before when the thread moves quickly. I'm glad to see it picking up again.


I got my hair done the other day and one of the ladies there was talking to a client about suppliments. She said she was taking something called Ultimate Energy and how good it made her feel with lots of energy. I asked her about it and she gave me a sample to try. Then she was telling me about how bad splenda was for you and suggested I try SweetOne. They sell it in packets at Krogers, so I'm going to try it since I have been reading about splenda being bad for you. Anyone else heard of SweetOne and use it ???? Now this lady that was telling me about it works there, and shes been working at the gym too for 6 years and is a school teacher !!! She asked me how old I thought she was and I said mid 50's and they all laughed. She is almost 70 !!!!! She said its from clean eating and taking the right suppliments.


ADLMA. no we didnt get to meet MG. We were running late and she lives further that we thought. Hopefully next trip we will have time to detour and meet her. I hope so anyway. Shes a cool lady.

[ADLMA]

KY - Thanks. I think she is a great person too! I hope to meet her one day too. In fact, I think it would be cool to meet everyone!

[mikkimouse]

Originally Posted by ADLMA

Chic - Great news!!!!! I knew you could do anything! You proved it! You truly are a special little someone!

Metqa - I agree. I just want to be firm, lean, and in shape again!! Also, please don't eat any more of that bark! I know for sure it burns one's throat. I found out over and over again. . .it burns it bad! I know taking a lot of horse pills ain't so fun, but pricking those bad boys ain't the answer!!

Mikki - Uuuuuuuhm, about Callan. Don't wanna kill ya, so forget what I said about doing Callan!!

Trish - Did you meat MG while you were on vacation? You may have mentioned it already, and I missed it. I was just curious.

MG - Wheeeeeeere aaaaaaare yooooooooouuuuuuu?

Awwwww thanks hun.....( i still might )