Fingernails

Redeemed · 11-24-2009, 09:45 AM

I have deep ridges (longitude) in my fingernails - no half moons except for my thumbs. I am hoping after being optimized my thyroid meds for a period of time, that this will improve. Have any of you who are optimized on your thyroid meds found improvement with your fingernails?

CarolynF · 11-24-2009, 10:57 AM

Me, too..I've been optimized for about 2 months, and am anxiously waiting less ridgey nails. We shall see..It probably takes about 6 months or so to see a difference.

Redeemed · 11-24-2009, 11:00 AM

I should add that it's not just the ridges. My nails are so thin, they peel right off if I don't keep them really short. I am so hoping for some improvement.

Deb79fl · 11-24-2009, 01:57 PM

Can you take biotin? I found that helped along with calcium. I know it helps me with the peeling, brittle nails.

I don't know that I have throid issues, but I suspect it. No insurance, no job, no money.. so no diagnosis

maile · 11-24-2009, 02:27 PM

the lack of moons is considered to be a celiac trait....or at least I've read that on the celiac forums...perhaps it's also an autoimmune trait???

Redeemed · 11-24-2009, 03:28 PM

Thanks for the tip, Deb. I used to take biotin but got away from it.

Maile: Celiac or autoimmuine disease? Oh, dear! I'll have to look up celiac disease and see if I have any of the symptoms.

nonstickpam107 · 11-24-2009, 04:35 PM

Lack of moons and ridges are hypothyroid. And YES...I have mine back...about the fourth YEAR optimized (um..when we say 'optimized' we're talking holding FT4 midway of lab range and FT3 2/3 or better for at least six months or longer usually). In my case, it took about two years for me to be 'optimized' (all my hormones balanced).

Pam

Redeemed · 11-24-2009, 04:54 PM

Four Years?! Thanks, Pam. Did you notice your fingernails getting stronger?

jacky_ks · 11-24-2009, 05:22 PM

I have no moons and have ridges...my nails used to grow like crazy now they don't grow at all.

What about wrinkly, pruney fingertips? I have prune fingers all the time...like I just got out of he tub. Is that a hypo thing?

inatic · 11-24-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nonstickpam107

Lack of moons and ridges are hypothyroid. And YES...I have mine back...about the fourth YEAR optimized (um..when we say 'optimized' we're talking holding FT4 midway of lab range and FT3 2/3 or better for at least six months or longer usually). In my case, it took about two years for me to be 'optimized' (all my hormones balanced).

Pam

omg, lol. i never realized that i didnt have moons and i STILL have ridges. Cant speak for all the other hormones optimized, still working on it.

nonstickpam107 · 11-24-2009, 06:41 PM

My fingernails quite peeling in about a year, but in another TWO years they actually wouldn't 'bend backwards' and then in four years they had moons, no ridges, etc. I also take biotin, as well as a multi with selenium in it, and I also take cal/mag and fish oils/flaxseed oil/borage oil.

The moons came back when I was on estradiol, progesterone, but with the addition of testosterone, not only did I grow a lot of facial hair, but once again my nails became brittle, etc. (I just couldn't tolerate DHEA nor Testosterone...nowadays I've weaned off of ALL BHRT). I also take daily oral steroids (for other autoimmune disease) and that can also help nails in some (doesn't do much for the skin though).

I had problems with peeling skin...like layers peeling on my fingertips...but not for long. And DH has the peeling skin every time he forgets his Armour/Westhroid for a couple of days. With me, my feet act up..plantar fasciitis (and that's not easy given I'm on my feet and running at my job for up to 12 hours, six days a week). I don't complain about that much though..it wasn't all that long ago that I could barely get out of a chair.....All day today I had a grin on my face...I have 1433 people coming to Thanksgiving dinner. And I'm the only one making all the bread. (Grin).

Pam

watcher513 · 11-25-2009, 02:08 AM

LOL, 1433. W O W

nonstickpam107 · 11-25-2009, 04:57 AM

Heh heh..yeah...and we had to cut off reservations cuz we don't have enough chairs. Imagine that! (Heck I would have hidden the dang chairs....). I've been making and baking bread since last Thursday......today should be a 12 to 14 hour day...and then I'll work tomorrow just to see it all disappear.

Pam

Leo41 · 11-25-2009, 09:28 AM

Redeemed-

I have thin, weak nails and a couple of them have the ridges you describe. Biotin causes my hair to grow like wildfire but does nothing for my thinning hair or nails.

I try to keep a nail strengthener on my nails, but they still break and chip often. I've noticed no improvement with my thyroid meds, but I don't take any other hormones.

Redeemed · 11-25-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo41

Redeemed-

I have thin, weak nails and a couple of them have the ridges you describe. Biotin causes my hair to grow like wildfire but does nothing for my thinning hair or nails.

I try to keep a nail strengthener on my nails, but they still break and chip often. I've noticed no improvement with my thyroid meds, but I don't take any other hormones.

Well, I'm a little leary of hormones in light of my dramatic 10 pound weight loss since going off Prometrium. However, I will go back to the biotin. Nail polish dries my nails and makes them even more brittle.

nonstickpam107 · 11-25-2009, 04:11 PM

Oral progesterone bloated me up a good 20 pounds! But doing transdermal compounded helped me lose ten.

Pam

inatic · 11-25-2009, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nonstickpam107

Oral progesterone bloated me up a good 20 pounds! But doing transdermal compounded helped me lose ten.

Pam

we are all soooooooooo different. I didnt absorb an ounce of compound P transdermal and do well on oral.

nonstickpam107 · 11-26-2009, 05:20 AM

I don't know how old or what your hormone status is Redeemed, but once you are clearly POST meno, oral progesterone can really bloat, I do know that. And there are FORTY different 'kinds' of oral prometrium. So, think about the fillers!

I just know that I used a compounder who compounded my transdermals in oil. It worked very well for me. (Ileen...I wasn't an athlete though...I didn't burn it right back off...heh heh...maybe it's just gonna be REALLY different for you).

Pam

inatic · 11-26-2009, 09:19 AM

when i decide to go back to transdermal, i will try to remember the oil part. I'd love for my liver to have to process less.

nonstickpam107 · 11-26-2009, 04:14 PM

Amen on the liver part...maybe you should call around to the different compounding pharmacists and take a 'poll' of who does compounding in olive oil.

Pam

inatic · 11-27-2009, 05:29 AM

i could or even ask for it and see if they will do it.

11-24-2009, 09:45 AM	#1
Redeemed MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Beautiful Minnesota, Land of 10,000 Lakes Posts: 1,650 Gallery: Redeemed WOE: JUDDD Start Date: 11/7/09	Fingernails I have deep ridges (longitude) in my fingernails - no half moons except for my thumbs. I am hoping after being optimized my thyroid meds for a period of time, that this will improve. Have any of you who are optimized on your thyroid meds found improvement with your fingernails?

11-24-2009, 04:54 PM	#8
Redeemed MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Beautiful Minnesota, Land of 10,000 Lakes Posts: 1,650 Gallery: Redeemed WOE: JUDDD Start Date: 11/7/09	Four Years?! Thanks, Pam. Did you notice your fingernails getting stronger? Last edited by Redeemed; 11-24-2009 at 05:41 PM..

11-24-2009, 06:41 PM	#11
nonstickpam107 Thyroid Patient Advocate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NE Indiana Posts: 14,746 Gallery: nonstickpam107 Stats: Just right for now, need to hit the gym more WOE: Started w/Atkins/Now BFFM Start Date: Nov. 23 2000	My fingernails quite peeling in about a year, but in another TWO years they actually wouldn't 'bend backwards' and then in four years they had moons, no ridges, etc. I also take biotin, as well as a multi with selenium in it, and I also take cal/mag and fish oils/flaxseed oil/borage oil. The moons came back when I was on estradiol, progesterone, but with the addition of testosterone, not only did I grow a lot of facial hair, but once again my nails became brittle, etc. (I just couldn't tolerate DHEA nor Testosterone...nowadays I've weaned off of ALL BHRT). I also take daily oral steroids (for other autoimmune disease) and that can also help nails in some (doesn't do much for the skin though). I had problems with peeling skin...like layers peeling on my fingertips...but not for long. And DH has the peeling skin every time he forgets his Armour/Westhroid for a couple of days. With me, my feet act up..plantar fasciitis (and that's not easy given I'm on my feet and running at my job for up to 12 hours, six days a week). I don't complain about that much though..it wasn't all that long ago that I could barely get out of a chair.....All day today I had a grin on my face...I have 1433 people coming to Thanksgiving dinner. And I'm the only one making all the bread. (Grin). Pam __________________ So many fireworks. So little time. "You can't get a patent on a pig part"

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11-24-2009, 10:57 AM	#2
CarolynF Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kansas Posts: 24,827 Gallery: CarolynF Stats: 195/151/139 WOE: Eat Fat, Get Thin/I Can Make You Thin Start Date: January 2001	Me, too..I've been optimized for about 2 months, and am anxiously waiting less ridgey nails. We shall see..It probably takes about 6 months or so to see a difference.

11-24-2009, 11:00 AM	#3
Redeemed MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Beautiful Minnesota, Land of 10,000 Lakes Posts: 1,650 Gallery: Redeemed WOE: JUDDD Start Date: 11/7/09	I should add that it's not just the ridges. My nails are so thin, they peel right off if I don't keep them really short. I am so hoping for some improvement.

11-24-2009, 01:57 PM	#4
Deb79fl Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 556 Gallery: Deb79fl Stats: 202.5/128 WOE: Atkins/ Now lower carb maintenance/ 5'2 Start Date: July 2007	Can you take biotin? I found that helped along with calcium. I know it helps me with the peeling, brittle nails. I don't know that I have throid issues, but I suspect it. No insurance, no job, no money.. so no diagnosis

11-24-2009, 02:27 PM	#5
maile Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 80 Gallery: maile Stats: 170/166.5/140 5'7" WOE: Eades 6WC/ PPLP Start Date: Oct 2009	the lack of moons is considered to be a celiac trait....or at least I've read that on the celiac forums...perhaps it's also an autoimmune trait???

11-24-2009, 03:28 PM	#6
Redeemed MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Beautiful Minnesota, Land of 10,000 Lakes Posts: 1,650 Gallery: Redeemed WOE: JUDDD Start Date: 11/7/09	Thanks for the tip, Deb. I used to take biotin but got away from it. Maile: Celiac or autoimmuine disease? Oh, dear! I'll have to look up celiac disease and see if I have any of the symptoms.

11-24-2009, 04:35 PM	#7
nonstickpam107 Thyroid Patient Advocate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NE Indiana Posts: 14,746 Gallery: nonstickpam107 Stats: Just right for now, need to hit the gym more WOE: Started w/Atkins/Now BFFM Start Date: Nov. 23 2000	Lack of moons and ridges are hypothyroid. And YES...I have mine back...about the fourth YEAR optimized (um..when we say 'optimized' we're talking holding FT4 midway of lab range and FT3 2/3 or better for at least six months or longer usually). In my case, it took about two years for me to be 'optimized' (all my hormones balanced). Pam

11-24-2009, 05:22 PM	#9
jacky_ks Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: California Posts: 260 Gallery: jacky_ks Stats: 165/138/125 5'7" WOE: Atkins Start Date: Off and on since 1981	I have no moons and have ridges...my nails used to grow like crazy now they don't grow at all. What about wrinkly, pruney fingertips? I have prune fingers all the time...like I just got out of he tub. Is that a hypo thing?

11-25-2009, 02:08 AM	#12
watcher513 Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sonoma County, CA Posts: 369 Gallery: watcher513	LOL, 1433. W O W

11-25-2009, 04:57 AM	#13
nonstickpam107 Thyroid Patient Advocate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NE Indiana Posts: 14,746 Gallery: nonstickpam107 Stats: Just right for now, need to hit the gym more WOE: Started w/Atkins/Now BFFM Start Date: Nov. 23 2000	Heh heh..yeah...and we had to cut off reservations cuz we don't have enough chairs. Imagine that! (Heck I would have hidden the dang chairs....). I've been making and baking bread since last Thursday......today should be a 12 to 14 hour day...and then I'll work tomorrow just to see it all disappear. Pam

11-25-2009, 09:28 AM	#14
Leo41 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,952 Gallery: Leo41	Redeemed- I have thin, weak nails and a couple of them have the ridges you describe. Biotin causes my hair to grow like wildfire but does nothing for my thinning hair or nails. I try to keep a nail strengthener on my nails, but they still break and chip often. I've noticed no improvement with my thyroid meds, but I don't take any other hormones.

11-25-2009, 04:11 PM	#16
nonstickpam107 Thyroid Patient Advocate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NE Indiana Posts: 14,746 Gallery: nonstickpam107 Stats: Just right for now, need to hit the gym more WOE: Started w/Atkins/Now BFFM Start Date: Nov. 23 2000	Oral progesterone bloated me up a good 20 pounds! But doing transdermal compounded helped me lose ten. Pam

11-26-2009, 05:20 AM	#18
nonstickpam107 Thyroid Patient Advocate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NE Indiana Posts: 14,746 Gallery: nonstickpam107 Stats: Just right for now, need to hit the gym more WOE: Started w/Atkins/Now BFFM Start Date: Nov. 23 2000	I don't know how old or what your hormone status is Redeemed, but once you are clearly POST meno, oral progesterone can really bloat, I do know that. And there are FORTY different 'kinds' of oral prometrium. So, think about the fillers! I just know that I used a compounder who compounded my transdermals in oil. It worked very well for me. (Ileen...I wasn't an athlete though...I didn't burn it right back off...heh heh...maybe it's just gonna be REALLY different for you). Pam

11-26-2009, 09:19 AM	#19
inatic Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alpharetta,Ga. Posts: 14,110 Gallery: inatic Stats: 182/135 5'4 47!yo 16/4 5 kidlets later! WOE: Coach Supervised Start Date: LowER C since 2/02 wt training 10/15/02	when i decide to go back to transdermal, i will try to remember the oil part. I'd love for my liver to have to process less.

11-26-2009, 04:14 PM	#20
nonstickpam107 Thyroid Patient Advocate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NE Indiana Posts: 14,746 Gallery: nonstickpam107 Stats: Just right for now, need to hit the gym more WOE: Started w/Atkins/Now BFFM Start Date: Nov. 23 2000	Amen on the liver part...maybe you should call around to the different compounding pharmacists and take a 'poll' of who does compounding in olive oil. Pam

11-27-2009, 05:29 AM	#21
inatic Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alpharetta,Ga. Posts: 14,110 Gallery: inatic Stats: 182/135 5'4 47!yo 16/4 5 kidlets later! WOE: Coach Supervised Start Date: LowER C since 2/02 wt training 10/15/02	i could or even ask for it and see if they will do it.