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Old 10-09-2007, 04:17 PM   #1
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Armour Thyroid & Weight Loss

I'm very interested to hear from some hypothyroid folks who switched from Synthroid to Armour and how they are doing on their weight loss as a result.

*Has it improved your metabolism, and you're now losing when you couldn't before?

*No change?

*Do you feel any different on the Armour?

If you did begin losing weight more easily on Armour, did you do anything else that might have also helped, such as increased exercise or major dietary change?

If you did begin losing more easily, approximately how long did it take before you noticed the weightloss?

Also, if you've had your blood lipids checked after taking Armour, did they improve (cholesterol and triglycerides)
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When I switched from a T4 only thyroid hormone to Armour Thyroid, I was able to lift more weight, more days during a week. As a result my bodyfat dropped even further. (In case those who do NOT have hypothyroidism are reading this, Armour Thyroid, or ANY thyroid hormone is not used for weightloss).

Those who have hypothyroidism depend on incoming thyroid hormone for helping give them more energy, be more alert, and overall 'normalize' their metabolism. For most it means they can work out every other day, sustain longer work outs, walk further with less effort, therefore they lose bodyfat percentage as long as they eat a very good diet. Most of us switching from T4 synthetics to Armour Thyroid notice our body temperature normalizing (coming up) and our skin less dry, TOM less heavy, ability to sustain activity necessary to bring heart rates up and bodyfat percentages down. Most see a real difference after about six months of Armour Thyroid usage (as long as the doc is keeping an eye on FT4, FT3 and adjusting every six to eight weeks as necessary).

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I did not really get well til I switched to Armour, but honestly, I am not sure that was not due to finally getting ENOUGH thyroid medication.

I was so debilitated and deconditioned by the time I finally got a diagnosis that it took years for me to feel really well again. I cried the day I could walk on the balls of my feet again. I dance and could not do every move because I could not do that. I also had developed a foot drop in my left foot, which did finally go away with persistant exercize.

I lost 30 lbs fairly quickly on locarb while taking synthroid. Then stopped.

i have struggled with those last 20 lbs for years now. However, I had my annual physical recently and over time, I have lost 7 lbs a year for the last 2 years. I keep plugging away and keep staying active, although I do not exercise formally more than once a week, at dance rehersal.

Still trying to break 150.

My mom takes Armour and has for decades. That helped me to persuade my primary doc to continue it after the specialist put me on it. My sister takes synthroid because she is a vegetarian, and she is nowhere near as healthy as I would want to be, but she has other stuff going on too.

My TSH stays low ... it was 0.03 at my last physical, however I have managed to get my doc to be comfortable with that. Probably helps that I just had a totally normal bone density scan and normal cholesterol and blood work. Still have not been able to get off the blood pressure medications, though. I think too much damage was done in the 5 years without a diagnosis. Not all of it was reversable, aparently.

However, life is good on Armour

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When I switched from a T4 only thyroid hormone to Armour Thyroid, I was able to lift more weight, more days during a week. As a result my bodyfat dropped even further. (In case those who do NOT have hypothyroidism are reading this, Armour Thyroid, or ANY thyroid hormone is not used for weightloss).

Those who have hypothyroidism depend on incoming thyroid hormone for helping give them more energy, be more alert, and overall 'normalize' their metabolism. For most it means they can work out every other day, sustain longer work outs, walk further with less effort, therefore they lose bodyfat percentage as long as they eat a very good diet. Most of us switching from T4 synthetics to Armour Thyroid notice our body temperature normalizing (coming up) and our skin less dry, TOM less heavy, ability to sustain activity necessary to bring heart rates up and bodyfat percentages down. Most see a real difference after about six months of Armour Thyroid usage (as long as the doc is keeping an eye on FT4, FT3 and adjusting every six to eight weeks as necessary).

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Pam, thank you so much. What WOE do you follow and/or recommend?

I notice WAY more energy on the Armour. I am delighted so far with it, having taken 90mg per day for about 11 days now. I'm splitting my dose into 2/3 in the morning sublingually and the rest in the midafternoon. I take it with selenium.

I now understand why women say "Armour gave me my life back". I can see how you will want to exercise more! I have upped my activity level just in the past several days, because I FEEL GOOD and I have ENERGY to do it.

Only cloud on the horizon is, I saw the "new endocrinologist" today. He was totally Old School on everything. He thinks Armour is a bad idea although he conceded it will work (thinks Synthroid is the best), didn't think my last labs were bad at all, discounted my symptoms as possibly estrogen related and thinks I should be on HRT now (post-surgical menopause 7 yrs). Oh and wants me back on statins, although labs have proven that I have improved my LD and my triglycerides with low carb dieting alone.

Sheesh. Talk about a waste of time. He also thinks I should get a glucometer and test post-prandial BS.
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I did not really get well til I switched to Armour, but honestly, I am not sure that was not due to finally getting ENOUGH thyroid medication.

I was so debilitated and deconditioned by the time I finally got a diagnosis that it took years for me to feel really well again. I cried the day I could walk on the balls of my feet again. I dance and could not do every move because I could not do that. I also had developed a foot drop in my left foot, which did finally go away with persistant exercize.

I lost 30 lbs fairly quickly on locarb while taking synthroid. Then stopped.

i have struggled with those last 20 lbs for years now. However, I had my annual physical recently and over time, I have lost 7 lbs a year for the last 2 years. I keep plugging away and keep staying active, although I do not exercise formally more than once a week, at dance rehersal.

Still trying to break 150.

My mom takes Armour and has for decades. That helped me to persuade my primary doc to continue it after the specialist put me on it. My sister takes synthroid because she is a vegetarian, and she is nowhere near as healthy as I would want to be, but she has other stuff going on too.

My TSH stays low ... it was 0.03 at my last physical, however I have managed to get my doc to be comfortable with that. Probably helps that I just had a totally normal bone density scan and normal cholesterol and blood work. Still have not been able to get off the blood pressure medications, though. I think too much damage was done in the 5 years without a diagnosis. Not all of it was reversable, aparently.

However, life is good on Armour

Hope that helps

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Thank you Nona. I'm experiencing some good results energy-wise with the Armour, too. My last TSH was 0.025 (on Synthroid) and my doctors are upset about it. "Oh well" sez me, I just know I am not freezing cold all the time and I have way more energy during the day.

That's wonderful that you are feeling so much better on the Armour and able to dance again. It's the lifestyle changes that older age and hypothyroidism brings that I find so disheartening. I wish you the best and maybe one of these days you'll get a good surprise in the blood pressure dept. also!
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I lost most of my weight doing Atkins (and I used his 'carb ladder' to add in as I went toward maintenance...I never 'stayed on' induction, only did it the two weeks...not many 'tweaks') and when I started lifting weights, I used Body For Life lifting program (but not the eating program), I moved to Burn Fat, Feed Muscle (Tom Venuto's EBook) once I started being able to lift a little 'heavier'.

I have Celiac Sprue and HIE (Hyper IgE Syndrome) so I'm not 'tempted' by bread, or anything with gluten and am allergic to a good many foods (nuts, seeds, corn, etc....117 of them).

Oh, and I NEVER went below 1800 calories while losing weight (Atkins) and I eat about 75grams carb on non lifting days and about 110 gms on lifting days, none of it is sugar or flour/gluten carbs. Works well for me. I doubt I would have maintained my loss had I not kept my carbs above 30 (after induction) and my calories above 1500.

Selenium can be helpful with antibodies (Hashi's) but I didn't need it at all once I'd started Armour. That doctor has a 'clue' though...most of us need to have progesterone to aid the thyroid (and I was post meno at 41 yrs. old, not surprising when you have Hashimoto's) and to balance the incoming thyroid hormone against the other hormones (I also used Biest compounded prescription for seven years). I totally agree with balancing hormones using bio identical compounded hormones (prescription from a doctor, not OTC Wild Yam cream).

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Thanks for answering, Pam. I love the BFL program. It worked better than anything else I've ever done. My only problem with not starting it back up is I have a bad left rotator cuff. But I should get back doing most of the other stuff. I did 2 of his Challenges way back in 2001 and did very well with them. Then 3 surgeries in quick succession and I never got back on track with it.

All I know now is, I can't lose weight on 1300-1700 calories a day. I'm betting if I would get off my butt and make time for a weight lifting routine and the TTAPP video I bought a couple months ago, I'd be losing again.

I didn't know progesterone helps thyroid. I guess I need to research that some more. I have a progesterone cream I use on occasion but not all the time.
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Well, the 'progesterone cream' sold over the counter will hamper the thyroid more than help (it's essentially un-compounded wild yam cream). But getting your labs of progesterone/estradiol, etc. and getting a compounded cream progesterone made up can do wonders.

I know what you mean about having problems with body parts and lifting...I'm kind of 'one sided' myself having a left prosthetic femur.

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Well, the 'progesterone cream' sold over the counter will hamper the thyroid more than help (it's essentially un-compounded wild yam cream). But getting your labs of progesterone/estradiol, etc. and getting a compounded cream progesterone made up can do wonders.

I know what you mean about having problems with body parts and lifting...I'm kind of 'one sided' myself having a left prosthetic femur.

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I use "Renewed Balance" which I heard about on a John Lee CD someone gave me about 2 years ago. It is a wild yam preparation. We have plenty of compounding pharmacies around here. Guessing I'll need a doctor's prescription for it, or can I ask for it from one of them? I'll ask for the tests next time they do labs. Thanks!
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Some compounding pharmacies 'use' a doctor to do the testing for you. Or your doc can do it. Um...Dr. John Lee...um...well, he's written several 'useful' things...he calls unbalanced hormones 'estrogen dominance' and he wants people to use OTC Wild Yam (but has lately finally 'gotten it'..he used to say thyroid disease in women wasn't as predominant as it REALLY is...and now has 'come up to speed'....it's about every 2.3 women out of every 10) .

The compounded progesterone is so very fine...it's like 'night and day' vs. the OTC, and you'd be very pleased with it if you like the OTC. Any addition of sex hormones binds a part of thyroid hormone incoming, and if a doc Rx's hormones, they usually run tests every so often and up the thyroid if needed (at least my doctor did, but he's a pioneer in hormone replacement field and very good at what he does). I used both compounded progesterone and bio identical estradiol/estriol for about seven years (and although some women are using the products for the 'rest of their lives' I chose to use them and then stop when I would have gone through a natural menopause..I still use a bit of progesterone cream).

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Some compounding pharmacies 'use' a doctor to do the testing for you. Or your doc can do it. Um...Dr. John Lee...um...well, he's written several 'useful' things...he calls unbalanced hormones 'estrogen dominance' and he wants people to use OTC Wild Yam (but has lately finally 'gotten it'..he used to say thyroid disease in women wasn't as predominant as it REALLY is...and now has 'come up to speed'....it's about every 2.3 women out of every 10) .

The compounded progesterone is so very fine...it's like 'night and day' vs. the OTC, and you'd be very pleased with it if you like the OTC. Any addition of sex hormones binds a part of thyroid hormone incoming, and if a doc Rx's hormones, they usually run tests every so often and up the thyroid if needed (at least my doctor did, but he's a pioneer in hormone replacement field and very good at what he does). I used both compounded progesterone and bio identical estradiol/estriol for about seven years (and although some women are using the products for the 'rest of their lives' I chose to use them and then stop when I would have gone through a natural menopause..I still use a bit of progesterone cream).

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That's very interesting. Well...all I can say right now is, I'm jealous of you guys that have good doctors!! I honestly don't know how to go about finding someone good. I mean, you can't just keep changing primary care physicians, trying them on and firing them after one or two visits.

I have a consultation with a new doctor Nov. 6, who is supposed to be good with diabetes and such, although she is listed as an internist. My Gastroenterologist (he IS good, but of course limited in what he'll do for me) recommended her. So I hope that the "third time will be the charm" as doctors go.
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Well, I certainly wouldn't use my primary physician for my thyroid/hormone care, lol. He's an internist and although he's 'learning' (I was lucky to get an endocrinologist who does thyroid/hormones...most do diabetes and aren't very good at thyroid..my endo holds 'seminars' for other doctors to help them learn...usually in Chicago in April, although he practices out of Ft. Wayne, IN) he still doesn't 'get it'.

I have a pulmonologist and immunologist (I have HIE and Sjogrens as well as severe asthma), an endo and an internist. Lately the internist (my PCP) has been taking over my Rx's for lungs/allergies and suggested taking over my thyroid care but I'm at the point where I only go once/twice a year to the endo now that I'm pretty well 'settled' on my Armour.

Many patients have had good luck by joining their specific state group (thyroid support groups at Yahoo) at yahoo (and groups of states near them) with finding physicians, as well as the list at armour.com.

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I joined the Yahoo thyroid support group for my area, but the closest recommended doctor is in Toledo, almost 3 hours from here. Not very practical, unfortunately.
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I don't know where you are...but there is a really good Synthroid/Cytomel combo doc in Dublin OH. I lived in PA then OH for about 14 years, and the entire time I went completely UNtreated (which led to me acquiring several other autoimmune diseases) so I know what those two states are like for thyroid disease sufferers.

Your best best (if you are near OH/in OH) is to call DO's (Doctors of Osteopathy, there are a lot of them in that area because there are schools in that area.). If you are going to travel to Toledo (where I don't know of ANY really good thyroid doctors, but know of several who put themselves on the Armour list to get patients!), than keep travelling another hour to Ft. Wayne to my doctor, heh heh. There are people flying in from all over to see my thyroid doc.

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Dublin is about an hour and half, you are about 2 1/2-3 hrs from me.

I do think I saw a listing somewhere about a doc in Dublin, now that you mention it. My cancer doctor is in Columbus and I have to see him at least once a year now, so Dublin isn't that far from there.

I sent away for the Broda Barnes listing yesterday, it will be interesting to see what's on that. Thanks again.

Oh and PS: I feel wonderful on the Armour! I'm using about 2/3 of the 90mg tablet in the morning under my tongue and then the rest of the tablet mid afternoon in an attempt to keep blood levels even. I honestly feel so much better, it's hard to believe. And I'm starting to lose weight again finally, too.
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Well, wait on the BB listings first, and if that fails, then we'll talk about the doc in Dublin (since he uses synthetics...I'd rather you wait for the list and find someone who will do Armour/Westhroid for you).

I'm glad the Armour is helping you!! I'm really upset whenever I'm talking to Seniors (over 80 yrs. old) who tell me about how great they did when young on porcine thyroid (Armour meat packing company made Armour Thyroid first) and then how they went 'downhill' when their doctors switched them over to synthetics. Quite sad.

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What IS it with the Synthroid pushing????

I was appalled at that older endo doc I saw last week, saying Synthroid was the best and had stood the test of time, yada yada. It was like the guy hadn't cracked a book since he left medical school which was probably back in the 50's. Almost everything he told me has been proven either ineffective, or the wrong therapy for a person of my health issues.
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Here's info on the Synthroid lawsuit: Synthroid Lawsuit, News & Controversy

Doctors have been 'duped' into believing that you only need one thyroid hormone and that 'everyone' converts it (we have since had tests and proof that doesn't work) and the makers of Synthroid USED to give 'perks' to docs who would 'push it'. And some docs who haven't done ANY research still believe that thyroid disease isn't 'prevelant'..it's now two out of every ten women who have it...and they don't 'get it' that Armour Thyroid is FDA approved and has to maintain the same strict regulations that any OTHER approved drug on the market must maintain.

Plus no patent can be optained for a natural medication (Armour is pig thyroid, you can't get a patent for a pig part) just like doctors are STILL pushing synthetic and equine (horse urine) HRT's...cuz they can't make mega bucks on a natural (bio identical HRT) hormone. No money makes them very upset!

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I wanted to add...if a doctor won't 'keep up' with the latest information and technology, than the only way we patients are going to get what we need, in the most natural state possible is to go to the doctors who ARE keeping up, and who have OUR best interests and health at heart..once the doctors find out that Dr. "keepsup' down the street is getting their patients, perhaps they will turn around and learn.

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Your last post begs the question then:

How, in your opinion, would a person go about finding the best doctor in their area? I don't want to continue to waste my time and money and my insurance company's patience going to all the people in the Yellow Pages

I have heard "ask a nurse" but my daughter is the only nurse I know personally and she's in labor and delivery...no help there

I seem to recall you said you saw 5 different doctors before landing on the right one? Ouch.
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Well, joining your Yahoo state thyroid support group is one way. Another is to look for 'anti aging' doctors (they advertise), another is the Armour Thyroid Official Site website. Another is to ask pharmacies if they are dispensing RX's of Armour Thyroid (or Westhroid, or Cytomel) and asking them which doctors are prescribing it. And don't JUST look for physicians who give Armour...ask also about physicians who do good synthetic combo treatments (T4 and Cytomel, which is synthetic T3)...many docs who are good at combo treatment aren't good with Armour...I'd rather have those doctors than a doctor who has no or little experience with Armour.

In MY state there are TWO doctors who are 'famous' thyroidologists...and then there are some who DO give Armour...but not enough to actually optimize the patient...one of them believes it's like 'cookie cutter' treatment..he gives ONE grain to each and every patient and when they complain it's not 'working' he tells them "Oh, I knew it..see?? It doesn't work...let's give you Synthroid now". I've seen that bait and switch technique for a long time too, lol.

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I did take your advice about a month ago and join the Yahoo thyroid group. No help there, unfortunately. As I posted before, the closest doctor they're liking is in Toledo, at least 2.5 hours from me. I watch my granddaughter 3 days a week for 12 hr days, so I can't plan that long a trek during the week.

On the Armour site (thanks for that tip!) there are several:

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Heather Morgan, MD
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138 S Main St
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Joyvette Pelfrey, MD
Internal Medicine Dayton
Miles from zip code 45342: 6.8

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Walter Keyes, MD
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Miles from zip code 45342: 6.8

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Kettering, OH 45429
I was so hoping the lady I'm seeing Nov. 6 would show on that list, but she didn't.

My Gastroenterologist's PA said, if her mom or sister had all the problems that I have, she would recommend them to this Dr. I have the Nov. appt with. She is an MD, internal medicine with subspecialty in "metabolic disorders and diabetes".

My luck she'll be Synthroid all the way But I think it will still be worth the time to have the consult with her to feel her out and find out where she stands. You've been so helpful already but I wonder if you would have anything to add to this list of things I plan to ask her about:

Do you prescribe Armour Thyroid?
Alternately, Cytomel with Synthroid or Armour with Synthroid
Do you test for FT3, FT4, Hashimoto's, FT4I?
What sort of testing protocol do you recommend for patients new to using Armour?
What are your views on Metabolic Syndrome?
Besides dietary amendments (low carb diet), are there any other treatments known to reverse pre-diabetes and what are they?
Are you willing to work with me using proven natural supplements and nutritional therapies?
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Your list is great for a starting conversation to 'find out' about a new doctor. Down the road, if the doc is answering the questions the way you want, you might want to explore bio identical HRT.

My doctor answered those questions and doesn't mind whatsoever when prospective patients ask those and more. I sure hope you find someone on that list that will be a doctor/partner in health care for you. Always call AHEAD and ask if they really do Rx. Armour to many...in lots of cases, listings on the Armour website have frequently had their names put there or are using it as a 'new patient finder'...two of the doctors I saw at first were on the list and said "Well, yes I HAVE Rx'd Armour...to one or two people over my lifetime".

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Ok, thanks for the additional advice.

Now I'm wondering about something. I've been on the Armour for about 3 weeks. The first 10 days I could really tell something was different. I lost 3 lbs in about a week (yes, I was doing induction) and felt very happy, light and energetic.

That has just about gone away. I feel fat, heavy bloated again and those 3 lbs jumped right back on (I went back to eating about 1700 calories a day and anywhere from 20-50 carbs per day).

Does your body adjust to the dose of thyroid and then you need more?

I'm on 90mg (1.5 grains, I think that is). And I am not due to be tested again til Nov. 19th assuming I see the prescribing doctor (the one who totally doesn't "get" thyroid disorders).
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:18 AM   #25
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Time for testing then. That's what the doc is for, test for FT4 and FT3, then react accordingly, that's the doc's job (or at least it's MY doc's job, lol).

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OK, I'll give them a call. Thank you!
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I switched from Synthroid to Amour Thyroid in this last week....

In Jan 2007 I began taking Synthroid 75mg to treat some thyroid goiters which had developed on my thyroid. Goiters are benign masses which have attached themselves to my thyroid. I was tested for hyper and hypo thyroidism and my doctor told me that I was negative for both although he did indicate that my metabolism was running "a little slow" but not slow enough that he wanted to put me on medicine. The purpose of taking Synthroid for me was to reduce the size of the Goiters. Otherwise I would have to have surgery to cut out 4 goiters from my left and right thyroid and would be on Synthroid for the rest of my life (and would also have to live with some very ugly scars on my neck).

I have been taking Synthroid for the last 11 months and starting about 4 months ago I began to lose my hair (large amounts of it!). It was also getting very thin. First I thought it was stress but I noticed after a while it wasnt getting better. I then realized that Synthroid had a side effect of hair loss in some people. Yikes! I also noticed that I was tired all the time and had brain fog that could easily be defined as borderline depression. You would of thought that Synthroid would of helped my situation right! Nope..It made it worse... I was sleeping all day. I am 70 pounds overweight. I gained most of the weight over the last 5 years because my goiters and thyroid problem went undiagnosed for so long. My doctor told me that I would likely lose weight on Synthroid... We'll...it didnt happen. I didnt lose an ounce.

This week I switched to 30 mg of Armour Thyroid and I've got to tell you, I am feeling absolutely wonderful. I am losing weight!! Its just coming off and I"m doing absolutely nothing! I feel wonderful! My neighbor was the first to notice the weight loss even before I did and she commented about it. (I thought she was delierous!) My disposition has changed entirely! I cant believe it. Gone is the brain fog and the depression seems to have gone away.. I actually laughed at myself yesterday when I started to think of how nice it would be to take up a hobby like ice skating! Whats going on here??? In regards to the hair problem...its still falling out but as we all know, it might take a few weeks for that to calm down so I will keep you informed..but my scalp feels different too since I started taking this. When I was taking synthroid, my scalp feet "numb and dead"...no activity. Oils were collecting on my head quite quickly... Since I've been on the Amour, I feel my scalp again and the oil problem is not there. I'll let you know in a few weeks what happens..but I am optimistic.

Overall, I am very grateful for the switch..I had to recommend Armour to my doctor. It never occured to her for me to try it (what on earth were they thinking?? ) They think its old fashioned but I've got to tell you... I feel like I have NO THYROID PROBLEM AT ALL... I am almost disgusted they didnt put me on this first. (Maybe I should have gone to medical school!

I love how I feel on this... I hope the hair problems stops... Will keep you posted...
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NewYawker~ WELCOME to LCF!

And thank you so much for that Armour "testimonial." I'm more determined than ever to find a doctor who will prescribe it for me now. All my little family doctor wants to do is increase my Synthroid dosage.

I'm so glad the Armour is working for you! And so well too! Best of luck to you, New Yawk! (love that username too - lol)
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30 mg. Armour is only half a grain, and (hate to tell ya) you will 'crash' on that really quick, don't be alarmed....you'll need more Armour. TWO grains is the equal of what you WERE taking in Synthroid, it will take you some time to get up to that, but make sure your doctor will give you the increase when you need it (most do one grain to start, wait six weeks or so, go up 1/2 grain, wait three MONTHS, go up 1/2 grain, etc.).

Do you know your FT4/FT3's New Yawker?

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Pam, sorry to butt in but I'm interested in your comment about slowly & gradually increasing the Armour dosage. As I posted in my other thread (that you have been helping me with), I'm now back feeling pretty much as sluggish as I did on Synthroid. I guess this means that my body would like to have a bit more Armour. It's been about one month @ 90mg (thats 1.5 grains, right?)

I had been on 175mcg Synthroid.

Am I thinking correctly here:

It would have taken maybe a week or two for all the Synthroid to disappear from my system once I switched to Armour? Maybe that's why I felt SO good that first couple weeks. Now the Synthroid is all gone and I may need more T-3?

My little dilemma is this. I don't know if I want to even fool around with calling my current doctor and ask for more labs now (my next appt is Nov. 27). I'll be seeing a new doctor (highly recommended MD with specialty in diabetes) on the 6th and I'm sort of leaning towards just seeing what she has to say. If she's good, I'm switching to her as my PCP.

I took my basal temp this morning: 96.8

I'm reading Broda Barnes book now, btw--that's where I got the idea for the temp. I wasn't surprised to see it that low.

ETA: LOL, this IS my thread! Duh, me :-)

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