Armour Thyroid & Weight Loss - Page 6

Iffy336 · 01-31-2009, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by nonstickpam107

Those who have hypothyroidism depend on incoming thyroid hormone for helping give them more energy, be more alert, and overall 'normalize' their metabolism. For most it means they can work out every other day, sustain longer work outs, walk further with less effort, therefore they lose bodyfat percentage as long as they eat a very good diet. Most of us switching from T4 synthetics to Armour Thyroid notice our body temperature normalizing (coming up) and our skin less dry, TOM less heavy, ability to sustain activity necessary to bring heart rates up and bodyfat percentages down. Most see a real difference after about six months of Armour Thyroid usage (as long as the doc is keeping an eye on FT4, FT3 and adjusting every six to eight weeks as necessary).

Pam

Agree! When I was on synthetics and "within normal range" I had no stamina and couldn't do weights/conditioning. I would be wiped out and my muscles felt very fatigued.

On a side note - I also developed plantar fasciitis last year before on Armour - this year did not get it and I have the same job where I am on my feet all day and walking on hard floors (cement with tile) and running after students - lol

I have less joint and muscle pain, less aches, I feel better mentally - the brain fog and confusion is minimal now - I still have a lot of while on the Levoxyl.

So not sure if Armour would alter the weight loss versus a synthetic but it does make me feel a lot better all around so I can actually exercise almost every day if I wanted to and not need 3 days to recuperate after 30 minutes of moderate walking.

ew1 · 02-02-2009, 10:24 AM

I may need to tweak my dosage as it is cold here in PA and I notice my arthritis is kicking up in my foot and I am more tired. Common experience??

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The adrenals make cortisol. When the adrenals don't work/fatigued/just plain exhausted, you must replace the cortisol they would make (people with low adrenals must get the adrenals adjusted FIRST, BEFORE they can benefit from thyroid hormone).

Pam, where can I get a cortisol test done? I want the one that does it every few hrs, the hospital lab only does the once and done one. I had major stress between Aug and December (job related, it's since been resolved

) and I wonder if that is part of my problem?
I have an Rx for my thyroid tests and will probably go this weekend unless it snows or something.

nonstickpam107 · 02-02-2009, 04:20 PM

You can ask a doctor for a 4x in one day salivary cortisol kit.

Pam

shell91320 · 02-10-2009, 09:48 PM

Hi Pam,
I started synthroid last August, and immediately got pregnant. (About 2-3 weeks after I started taking it). I took it all through my pregnancy, and had a healthy baby girl in May. After I had the baby, my weight dropped down with no effort at dieting to about 10 lbs less then my pre-pregnancy weight. However, as soon as I started taking the pill again, my weight loss stopped, and I have been struggling to keep my weight from going back up again. The pill I take is mostly progesterone, but every time I take the pill I gain weight. I thought maybe the synthroid would offset that somehow, but it hasn't. It seems like on the thread you had said taking progesterone with thryroid hormone was a good combination. I started taking synthroid because my thyroid levels were low and my ability to lose weight had dramatically come to a halt. Do you have any recommendations? Do you think I would need to go off the pill to be able to lose again?

nonstickpam107 · 02-11-2009, 02:04 AM

shell, you mean a birth control pill?? None of them have any progesterone in them. They have a chemical called progeSTIN in them...made by a lab...that's not progesterone, and it binds thyroid hormone.

I'm not talking about birth control, I was talking about bioidentical HRT progesterone. What are your recent FT4, FT3 test results (with lab ranges please)?

Pam

gogators · 02-11-2009, 11:22 AM

I have been to 4 doc begging to be put on armour..on the 17th i will inform the doc that i am not keaving his office w/out the script..
i hope this is a good idea...HELP

shell91320 · 02-11-2009, 01:15 PM

Hi Pam,

I haven't been back to the doctor who originally prescribed the synthroid since my pregnancy, so I do not have currentT4, T3 numbers. I would have to call the doctor to get the lab results at that time, I don't remember the exact numbers. What I do remember is that at the time my T4 number was 20 points below the low end of the lab range. Here's another question for ya, can you use HRT for birth control?

nonstickpam107 · 02-12-2009, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gogators

I have been to 4 doc begging to be put on armour..on the 17th i will inform the doc that i am not keaving his office w/out the script..
i hope this is a good idea...HELP

Depends on the doctor, you can't bully them (lol I WISH!). Unless you are sure this doc DOES Rx. it.

Pam

nonstickpam107 · 02-12-2009, 02:38 PM

BHRT is not used for birth control. You poor younger women are stuck with not a very good choice for that. I do believe though, there's Nuvaring, which restricts most of the hormone to the source, not through blood stream. So, that's a better choice than pills. BUT still not a whole lot of choice.

Pam

grandmato3 · 02-17-2009, 04:01 PM

The compounded progesterone is so very fine...it's like 'night and day' vs. the OTC, and you'd be very pleased with it if you like the OTC. Any addition of sex hormones binds a part of thyroid hormone incoming, and if a doc Rx's hormones, they usually run tests every so often and up the thyroid if needed

Pam[/QUOTE]

Hello, butting in here. I am curious about adding progesterone in balancing hormones. Have I misinterpeted my internet reading that getting the thyroid levels at a good place first is key. I read that the other sex hormones will fall into place as well upon getting thyroid optimized. I have been without a menses for 1 1/2 years, (51 yrs. young), I admit to totally loving that. In using progesterone, will that start a cyle again, and is that like starting all over with going through menopause?

hannahrose123 · 02-17-2009, 06:09 PM

I am too wondering if I get my thyroid levels optimized if that will help my hormones.
I haven't had my period for a year now and I don't know of its because my t4 is so high and my t3 is so low.

Hopefully when I get on the cytomel that will help to balance out my hormones.

grandmato3 · 02-18-2009, 05:31 PM

I am thinking it is a good thing to get the thyroid levels up first. I know when I used progesterone in the past, I had to lower synthroid, or at least that is what we did, maybe it should of been the other way around. I wish I knew....but that is my plan, one demon at a time, thyroid first.

The T3 reaching higher levels will be a good thing, hope that is your ticket to health.

Locarb4me · 02-18-2009, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hannahrose123

I am too wondering if I get my thyroid levels optimized if that will help my hormones.
I haven't had my period for a year now and I don't know of its because my t4 is so high and my t3 is so low.

Hopefully when I get on the cytomel that will help to balance out my hormones.

Have you ever seen this site? They have a lot of info there that might be beneficial to you.

Stop the Thyroid Madness - The truth about thyroid and thyroid treatment

hannahrose123 · 02-19-2009, 08:29 AM

Yes I have, Ive been getting a lot of my information from that site.

I just got an ACTH test done last week and today we are looking at the results of that, and if my adrenals are fine he is going to put my on a t4/t3 combo.

Hopefully it will help.

Thanks.

02-10-2009, 09:48 PM	#154
shell91320 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UTAH/CA girl Posts: 198 Gallery: shell91320 WOE: Induction/dreaming of OWL Start Date: Nov 2004	Question for Pam Hi Pam, I started synthroid last August, and immediately got pregnant. (About 2-3 weeks after I started taking it). I took it all through my pregnancy, and had a healthy baby girl in May. After I had the baby, my weight dropped down with no effort at dieting to about 10 lbs less then my pre-pregnancy weight. However, as soon as I started taking the pill again, my weight loss stopped, and I have been struggling to keep my weight from going back up again. The pill I take is mostly progesterone, but every time I take the pill I gain weight. I thought maybe the synthroid would offset that somehow, but it hasn't. It seems like on the thread you had said taking progesterone with thryroid hormone was a good combination. I started taking synthroid because my thyroid levels were low and my ability to lose weight had dramatically come to a halt. Do you have any recommendations? Do you think I would need to go off the pill to be able to lose again? __________________ It's kind of fun to do the impossible- Walt Disney

02-11-2009, 11:22 AM	#156
gogators Junior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1 Gallery: gogators	wanting to switch to armour I have been to 4 doc begging to be put on armour..on the 17th i will inform the doc that i am not keaving his office w/out the script.. i hope this is a good idea...HELP

02-11-2009, 01:15 PM	#157
shell91320 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UTAH/CA girl Posts: 198 Gallery: shell91320 WOE: Induction/dreaming of OWL Start Date: Nov 2004	Hi Pam, I haven't been back to the doctor who originally prescribed the synthroid since my pregnancy, so I do not have currentT4, T3 numbers. I would have to call the doctor to get the lab results at that time, I don't remember the exact numbers. What I do remember is that at the time my T4 number was 20 points below the low end of the lab range. Here's another question for ya, can you use HRT for birth control? Last edited by shell91320; 02-11-2009 at 01:37 PM..

02-18-2009, 05:31 PM	#162
grandmato3 Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 27 Gallery: grandmato3	I am thinking it is a good thing to get the thyroid levels up first. I know when I used progesterone in the past, I had to lower synthroid, or at least that is what we did, maybe it should of been the other way around. I wish I knew....but that is my plan, one demon at a time, thyroid first. The T3 reaching higher levels will be a good thing, hope that is your ticket to health. Last edited by grandmato3; 02-18-2009 at 05:35 PM..

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02-02-2009, 04:20 PM	#153
nonstickpam107 Thyroid Patient Advocate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NE Indiana Posts: 13,929 Gallery: nonstickpam107 Stats: 230/116/120 (BF<26%) WOE: Started w/Atkins/Now BFFM Start Date: Nov. 23 2000	You can ask a doctor for a 4x in one day salivary cortisol kit. Pam

02-11-2009, 02:04 AM	#155
nonstickpam107 Thyroid Patient Advocate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NE Indiana Posts: 13,929 Gallery: nonstickpam107 Stats: 230/116/120 (BF<26%) WOE: Started w/Atkins/Now BFFM Start Date: Nov. 23 2000	shell, you mean a birth control pill?? None of them have any progesterone in them. They have a chemical called progeSTIN in them...made by a lab...that's not progesterone, and it binds thyroid hormone. I'm not talking about birth control, I was talking about bioidentical HRT progesterone. What are your recent FT4, FT3 test results (with lab ranges please)? Pam

02-12-2009, 02:38 PM	#159
nonstickpam107 Thyroid Patient Advocate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NE Indiana Posts: 13,929 Gallery: nonstickpam107 Stats: 230/116/120 (BF<26%) WOE: Started w/Atkins/Now BFFM Start Date: Nov. 23 2000	BHRT is not used for birth control. You poor younger women are stuck with not a very good choice for that. I do believe though, there's Nuvaring, which restricts most of the hormone to the source, not through blood stream. So, that's a better choice than pills. BUT still not a whole lot of choice. Pam

02-17-2009, 04:01 PM	#160
grandmato3 Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 27 Gallery: grandmato3	The compounded progesterone is so very fine...it's like 'night and day' vs. the OTC, and you'd be very pleased with it if you like the OTC. Any addition of sex hormones binds a part of thyroid hormone incoming, and if a doc Rx's hormones, they usually run tests every so often and up the thyroid if needed Pam[/QUOTE] Hello, butting in here. I am curious about adding progesterone in balancing hormones. Have I misinterpeted my internet reading that getting the thyroid levels at a good place first is key. I read that the other sex hormones will fall into place as well upon getting thyroid optimized. I have been without a menses for 1 1/2 years, (51 yrs. young), I admit to totally loving that. In using progesterone, will that start a cyle again, and is that like starting all over with going through menopause?

02-17-2009, 06:09 PM	#161
hannahrose123 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 167 Gallery: hannahrose123	I am too wondering if I get my thyroid levels optimized if that will help my hormones. I haven't had my period for a year now and I don't know of its because my t4 is so high and my t3 is so low. Hopefully when I get on the cytomel that will help to balance out my hormones.

02-19-2009, 08:29 AM	#164
hannahrose123 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 167 Gallery: hannahrose123	Yes I have, Ive been getting a lot of my information from that site. I just got an ACTH test done last week and today we are looking at the results of that, and if my adrenals are fine he is going to put my on a t4/t3 combo. Hopefully it will help. Thanks.