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Old 01-12-2012, 12:14 PM   #211
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Oh about the fat thing--I still have never got my head around the Atkins high saturated fat part. I just can't!! But I do know that if I eat very low fat--as in zilch--tuna, chicken, lf cottage cheese, egg whites my face looks awfully drained. It obviously didn't at the beginning but now for kind of maintanance it does me no favours--but when I eat salmon for a few days the glow is amazing.
And interestingly when I started Stills I ate a can of salmon nearly every day for over a year((i adore the stuff, both canned and fresh!) and I credit my lack of lose skin to that, I really do!!
You are probably right!

Hey, I never heard of the Used to be Fat show. Gonna have to look for it and check it out.

I recorded Biggest Loser on Tuesday, but have not taken the time to watch it yet. May do that today before cardio.

good job on the workout!!
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Fantastic job Mim & Yam-Yam. 3-4 pounds in a week is amazing! I have always been happy with 1-2 per week (non-Stillmans), but perhaps the bar has been raised higher...

Thanks also for the Dukan book advice. I'll get it for sure. Will be nice to see the modern science update on Stillman's 50 year old plan (although I'm not fully convinced anyone has learned anything valuable since then, based on all the junk diet schemes they try on us). Funny how Stillman and, I suppose, Atkins, works so amazingly well despite all the "modern science" folks saying it can't possibly work.

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Mike: You are gonna love it!

Honestly, he does not discount anything Stillman says. He just builds on it with new science and new research.

I was so thrilled to see him add in the FF dairy.

And, I had never tried lactose free milk before, but it's yummy!

I had read somewhere else that when choosing a protein powder if you are going to make protein smoothies, (which I used to do), you should buy 100% Whey Isolate because it means they separate out the lactose (which is sugar/carbs).

when Dukan talks about lactose free being better, I totally get it.
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The fact that I can eat all the fat free plain Greek yogurt I want (I just add a bit of Splenda and sometimes some vanilla extract) makes me feel like I'm doing something decadent. I've even been known to squirt a little fat free chocolate syrup on it. Tastes like ice cream when it's nice and cold. Does not affect my WL at all.

And, doing that, I'm still following Stillman's plan!

Oh, and I had never heard of surimi before Dukan. So surprised my little grocery store sells it in the freezer section. Now I eat it like candy!!
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Dukan, like Stillman, believes LC needs to be Fat Free. However, being the rebel I am, I believe that Extra Virgin Olive Oil and fish oil supplements make a good addition to this WOE.

I cook my fish fillets in EVOO and have from day one. I don't go overboard, but I don't completely erase it from my diet either. I think 2 teaspoons of healthy oil a day are very beneficial to weight loss.

One thing I like to do (since I'm an information junkie!) is to pile up all the wisdom and truth I've learned from my reading.

It's very obvious that all the high carb, low fat diets that have been pushed in our country are CAUSING the obesity epidemic. More and more doctors and nutritionists and WL specialists are finding that High Protein, Low Fat, Low Carb is the healthiest WOE for weight loss and for longevity and health.

Just read Chris Powell's book. He preaches carb cycling which is very similar to the second stage of Dukan's plan. Powell helps morbidly obese people lose lots of weight fast through diet and exercise. Like the guy who lost 400 pounds in less than 2 years!!

Powell says eat only protein one day, then protein and non-starchy veggies with a very few whole grains the next. Then keep alternating until you reach your goal.

OK, I'm getting carried away! Keeps me motivated to talk about it all, though!!
I have to agree with you all, seems to me everything old is new again, just rewritten in the current lingo to appear fresh and new.
I am convincedd that the good doc was never taken too seriously by the masses because his writing was moore like a used car salesman than a medical mind. It was straight and to the point, not filled with scientific evidence, studies or footnotes.
Kinda like religion, we all want to get to the same general end, we're just on different lanes and higways that will eventually lead us to our own idea of glory or redemption.
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Big fatty back here again, eating my boiled eggs for lunch. I fell off the wagon and ballooned up after my mother-in-law asked me in February "Why are you so FAT?" ~ after a 15 lb loss. So I gained those back plus 10 more. Stupid me.

I broke my leg on Memorial Day, and it didn't heal. I'm just getting able to cook for any length of time, and can now afford food, but there are going to be challenges. Work takes so much time and is so far away, I'm exhausted when I get home.

But I have already lost 4 lbs on the Stillman's part of my Stillmans/Atkins rotation that served me well last year.

Strictly it's not Stillmans, I was too tired to go to the store for almond milk for my coffee, but it's a start.

I also dislocated my kneecap in the fall, so it's really important that I lose! This old knee can't take the strain!
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Oh I tried it after reading Dukan too---I nearly threw it up--twas not goodM
eaking THAT off the grocery list
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I love Dukan, I really do, but I think his meat-eating man is just so copied from Stillman-almost word for word. I don't think he 'discovered' the diet like he said, I think he read around and decided what would work best-especially what would be more palatable for a long-term diet. Everybody still thinks high-fat is bad-it's just ingrained in society now, and Atkins has a very unhealthy image, so I think he knew a diet like that wouldn't sell as well. Even the nutritionists and dieting 'experts' are leaning towards a more moderate carb(wholegrain) and low fat diet. But they don't work as quickly in the beginning. Zero carb does--so that would be an attraction for Dr. Dukan.
As I say I think his Stabilising and Consolidation phases--the science behind the yo-yo effect is great. I had really never know why people put the lost weight-and more-back on after a diet, i like everyone else just presumed it was because people went straight bact to how they were eating before. (that is probably partially true).
Also I knew that the longer you kept the weight off the less chance there was of the regain--now I know why.
can't ever go back unless you want your old self back........carbs are crack
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Fungicide in orange juice: What's next?
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Print Email Share Comments (1) First there was arsenic in apple juice, and now fungicide in orange juice. I shudder to think of what food-poison combo is next, and of what toxins are hiding deep within the rest of this country’s food supply, waiting for their moment in the proverbial spotlight.

The Food and Drug Administration announced Wednesday that it would temporarily halt all imports of foreign orange juice. The reason? Apparently, Brazilian orange growers use a fungicide called carbendazim that is banned in this country because it has been linked to increased rates of cancers and infertility. Not to worry, though: the FDA later insisted that trace amounts of the fungicide are unlikely to pose a public health threat.

Phew! I feel better now.

This latest development is just one more example of what industrial agriculture is doing to our fruits and vegetables, those essential foods that provide us with so many necessary vitamins and minerals. People often tell me they will “never” buy organic food, either because it is too expensive, or they think it’s all a bunch of baloney. Well, this is the alternative: fungicide in your OJ, chemicals in your body, hysteria at the supermarket.



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Set in the late thirties and early forties, it was in the glory days when you wore a hat, gloves and a dress when out, men opened car doors for you and life was glam.......

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That ought to improve my posture, if not my attitude!


Thank you all for the warm welcome. And thanks for the info on Dukat and Powell. I do my own week-long cycles with Stillmans/Atkins/Meditteranean and I worry about going out of ketosis already. Wouldn't the whole grains every other day be even worse?

Oh, I'm prolly not thinking straight. Still got that carb-withdrawal headache. I cycled straight into Mediterranean tonight with Dreamfields pasta, marinara with red peppers and venison, and a big ole salad. It was soooooo good after all that tuna. If past experiences are anything, it should not get me out of ketosis.

Although I didn't pick up ketostix!! I went to the grocery and got almond milk, though, and when hubby saw it he said it was supposed to be coconut milk. I think he's right.... but it has to be better than the heavy cream he's been putting in my coffee!!
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Sorry to hear about your MIL Christine, I swear if people knew how long a hurtful remark would stay and cut deeper each day to the person they said it to, I hope they would think twice. Its so easy to say a throwaway remark to someone and it stays with them. I sure have had my share. bty we are stong and they will be jealous of our sexy bods, healthy glow and confidence and fab friends when we prevail on stillmans

Thanks for the salmon tip GT, I am def going to try that, worried about loose skin but it may be unavoidable as I have been overweight for soo long.

I am all about adding omega 3's by eating and in supplement, good fats are essential, I will go primal/paelo after losing my weight. Theres so much good reading out there about good whole food less the carbs. Dukan rocks it too and has a great structure to get back to normalish eating after losing

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Thank you all for the warm welcome. And thanks for the info on Dukat and Powell. I do my own week-long cycles with Stillmans/Atkins/Meditteranean and I worry about going out of ketosis already. Wouldn't the whole grains every other day be even worse?

Oh, I'm prolly not thinking straight. Still got that carb-withdrawal headache. I cycled straight into Mediterranean tonight with Dreamfields pasta, marinara with red peppers and venison, and a big ole salad. It was soooooo good after all that tuna. If past experiences are anything, it should not get me out of ketosis.

Although I didn't pick up ketostix!! I went to the grocery and got almond milk, though, and when hubby saw it he said it was supposed to be coconut milk. I think he's right.... but it has to be better than the heavy cream he's been putting in my coffee!!
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