Stillman's Losers Rock on in November

[Getting there!!!]

Hi Bumblebea! Neighbour! Come join the group-the more the merryer!(God can't spell that!) I know that book makes a lot of sense doesn't it. xx

[IM2fat]

Bumble: Lurk away. .but be sure to update us periodically. . we love success stories! This group is great.. always willing to listen and lend advice!

Thank you, Daisy for my daily motivation! I love it!

[Lynnehermena]

Good Morning.

More about deviled eggs. Daisy was correct, I would just like to elaborate. Of course you boil the eggs and split them in 1/2, length wise. You scoop out the yolk and put it/them in a bowl. You mix the yolk (typically) with about one tablespoon of mayo and a little mustard (possibly a bit of salt and pepper). It usually has the consistency of egg salad. After that you put the altered yolk back in the white part with a spoon. At that point you can sprinkle the top of the yolks with paprika.

People in this country have jazzed up the deviled egg by adding all sorts of stuff to the yolk. One friend of ours puts crab meat and shrimp in there. Deviled eggs are typically a picnic food, but some people traditionally have it at Thanksgiving time as well.

Thanks to Daisy for posting the Thin Commandment. I do have a fondness for some foods. I think it is better for me not to make them until a special occasion. That way I am not tempted. I have psyched myself out about boughten foods and (with the exception of ice cream), I can turn them down quite readily.

I've ordered my scale, it is being shipped and so I am looking forward to weighing on it!!


-Lynne

[JengerSnaps]

I am starting Stillman's 14 day Challenge thing today. Wish me luck!

[Lynnehermena]

Good Luck JengerSnaps!!!!

I am sure you will do well, if you set your mind to it.

[Beth Sch]

YIPPY! I'm down 1.2 today! So excited! So that's 145! If I lose 3 lbs. a week, I will get to 126 by Christmas. My goal is 130 but I want to have 5 lb. wiggle room!

I went through my journal last night and noticed that I pretty much consistantly gain a wee bit before a drop. Not all the time, but it does happen. Man, If I didn't have my journal, I don't know what I'd do. It really has shown me what is working and where I need to tweek to make it work!

Just doing a flyby, BBL!

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK ALL! WE CAN DO THIS FOR SURE!

[slatman]

Good Morning!
Weight: 212
Exercise - Walking at daughters softball practice tonight
Stairs & parking lot walks throughout the day
60 oz of water b4 noon


B: Scrambled Eggs / Lean bacon
L: Hamburger patty / Cottage Cheese
D: Chicken pan fried in olive oil with shallots, and capers
SN: HB eggs

[slatman]

p.s.
Those of you who don't know me I do eat quite a bit more fat than most it's what works for me I am an all day fat burning machine... your mileage may vary

[Getting there!!!]

Hi everyone! Thanks Lynne-now I'll be an expert on deviled eggs-can serve them at the next diiner party!!
Good luck Jengersnaps-you do get results with it!
Wow Beth-congrats-your flying through! We have give or take the same stats-my goal is 133-but my secret goal was 125! ((and dream wld b 120))xx

[princessdaisy]

Hi all! Uhg! I caved last night after a good 10-day run. I was cleaning my freezer when I noticed a few things I'd forgotten about (!). One was a bag of chicken wings (a particular weakness of mine) and the other was a plastic tub of ground almond flour I'd made a while back to make that low-carb 3 minute chocolate cake. So, disregarding the Commandment I'd just spent so much time typing out and soaking up, I had a big ol' mess of chicken wings and a few of those cakes. With butter and syrup.

However, I didn't really beat myself up b/c I didn't weigh myself this morning to see the damage! Oh well. I really am trying to make lemonade out of it -- maybe it will kick-start my stall (I was STILL 122.5 yesterday. Grrrr!). And I did lose FAST the first week, and it was TOM this week, and, and, and....

YAY Beth!!! That is AWESOME! I am SO glad that there are other people here trying to get into their "comfort" weight w/o having to hear, "Why do YOU want to lose any weight?" My HAPPY weight is 120 (which I don't think is too thin for 5'6") and, as long as I'm not doing anything crazy to get there, buzz off! (that's what I have to tell my hub from time to time b/c he tends to worry.) I love that we ALL support ALL no matter what our weight-loss goals are. So, Getting There, feel free to post that secret goal for all to see!

Welcome Bumblebea (how cute!)!!!

Welcome JengerSnaps(also very cute!) -- don't forget to add lots of those British turns-of-phrase that I love so much! Good luck on the 14-dayer!

Yay Lynne on the new scale! I love new stuff!!!

Slatman -- I'm doing the higher-fat version of Stillman's too. I add Coconut Oil for running energy.

p.s. My kitchen is officially an "Empty Box" now -- nothing in it to Box In or Box Out!

[Getting there!!!]

Oh Daisy-I like the sound of 3-minute chocolate cake-sounds so good! My kitchen is an empty box too-my fridge looks a little sad with its turkey and eggs-oh and low-fat mozzarella I find it much easier that way cos I'm hardly gonna go too fridge and say "oh goody a little night-time snack of turkey!xx

[princessdaisy]

OMG! The Thin Commandment for today is....Slips Should Teach You, Not Defeat You (spooky.)

Commandment Essentials"
*Error control is the essence of weight control
*Don't say 'I blew it' if you make an eating mistake
*Don't undereat in an attempt to compensate for cheating the previous day
*Discover your predictable pattern in eating mistakes
*Use binge-busters to end cravings
*Don't go hungry
*Find something to do, such as reading a book or knitting, to help get your mind off your craving
*Think substitution, not deprivation
*Put a negative association with the foods that tempt you most

"Wouldn't it be great if there were just one thing that made you a winner at weight control? There is. One characteristic marks every winner I've worked with and eludes everyone who doesn't succeed: Those who master weight control learn from their mistakes instead of losing to them" (100).

"You may think that winners make fewer mistakes...The truth is they don't...It's how they deal with their mistakes that makes them winners. They treat a diet slip like any human error. They cut it off, see what went wrong, and take steps to prevent it from happening again...But did you ever think you could make mistakes and STILL LOSE WEIGHT -- in fact, lose all the weight you want? With the right skills, you can. Very few of my clients have perfect weeks, but almost all of them lose weight!" (101). (Man I needed this commandment today.)

The Biggest Cause of Excess Pounds Is NOT Food: "It's not even a behavior -- it's a mindset. It's a mental habit that reacts to a diet slip by giving up...When dieters cheat..this one error tends to become a reason to stop ALL their efforts at weight control. Instead of handling it like any human error -- asking, 'What can I learn from this?' -- they say, 'Well, I blew it, I might as well blow the rest of the day (or weekend, or longer). This 'I blew it' syndrome is different from the momentary feeling of 'I blew it' which we all may get after eating too much. Winners certainly have had this feeling about a particular meal or food. But then they become more careful and balance the excess with smart eating. The failures say, 'I blew it' and...their eating gets careless, and this carelessness engulfs the day and often the next day(s)...Something in you says that you might as well eat all you can for the rest of the day so you can 'get it all in' before going back on your diet. I also call this 'the last meal' syndrome and tell my clients: 'It will never be your last meal. You're not being thrown in the dungeon. There will be too much food in your life, never too little. So don't act as if a great famine is about to start'" (103).

Why the "I Blew It" Syndrome is Terminal to Diets
*Sets up an impossible tension in your life: that you have to be either perfect or a failure
*Lets your mental screen go blank, so you shut down everything that you've learned about food management
*Lets mistakes pile up, which drowns your motivation, skews your perspective, and overwhelms your willpower
*Destroys focus on your eating and weight control (Studies all show that staying FOCUSED on your eating behavior is what makes you a winner)
*Is self-defeating. It cuts off learning from the mistake and locks you into a pattern of repeating it
*Only helps you learn that you're gaining weight, which is obvious
*Ruins your chance to cut off the mistake and keep any weight gain small and temporary
*Keeps you from proving to yourself that you CAN stop and correct the error, a tremendous source of empowerment
*Turns a few minutes of unwise eating into something that will take days, months, or even years to make up for. It's not time efficient
*Paralyzes you into a mode of helplessness tht lets one mistake end up becoming thousands of calories
*Doesn't do justice to your intelligence, your life smarts
*Doesn't make you lose weight; it only makes you lose hope. Cutting off the error does the opposite: It builds hope and gives you power
*Doesn't answer the most important question of all: What went wrong in this situation, and what could I do differently?
(104)

ERROR CONTROL IS THE ESSENCE OF WEIGHT CONTROL

The Magic Bullet for Error Control: "The first thing to do after making a mistake is to stop it as soon as you can. Contain the mistake before it turns into an overwhelming series of mistakes...Instead of saying, 'I blew it' say 'Stop now.'...The overwhelming majority of my clients who have made one or two errors during the week but cut them off quickly still lose weight (Yay!) ...That's why it's so important to change your self-talk after an eating mistake...The longer you persist in your eating mistake -- the more chain-eating you do -- the harder it will be to get back on track" (106).

The 24-Hour Secret: "Most people who make a diet mistake will continue the pattern for the rest of the day! I call this the 'slip to sleep' syndrome...If you make a conscious, focused effort not to fall into the pattern for the rest of the day and into the next, the temptation to cheat passes. With good strategy, you can immediately cut it off! You can get through this manageable period of time and make the cheating an isolated event. You end the cycle of bingeing from day to day, avert chain-eating, and do not gain weight from your slips. And that is the 24-Hour Secret" (107).

From Slip to Sleep: The Critical Period: "The essence of weight control is error control, and the essence of error control is managing the period from slip to sleep. If you have success in this short but crucial period, you will have success in getting to yoru optimal weight...Here's the core strategy my clients have found works best during this time:
*Write out what you will eat for the rest of the day, meals as well as snacks. THis is the most successful strategy. Push yourself; force yourself to make this menu.
*Write out tomorrow's menu as well
*Do a brief mental rehersal (explained later) to desensitize you to tohe power of any tempting food before you even encounter it
*Use diversion...Avoid boredom at all costs!
*Commit to the menu you've written, from tht point until you go to bed
(107 -109)

Dealing with the "Day-After" Syndrome
*Start the day with exercise (even if it's only 15 minutes)
*Go over your menu for the day
*Don't undereat!
*Have a fourth, healthy meal to stabilize blood sugar when you're most vulnerable (late afternoon)
*Use visualization: See yourself eating the proper meals and snacks...And try the ultimate visualization: Put an article of clothing you love but is still too tight to wear where you'll see it during the day
*Reduce temptation: Don't go to restaurants you know are danger zones, and avoid food shopping if you can. Get rid of leftovers or give them away. And try not to look at foods that aren't on your menu
*Reach out and keep busy
(108 - 109)

Know Your Pattern, and You Can Predict Your Behavior: "If you know your pattern, you can predict your behavior and develop a plan to control it for the future."

Unlock You REP (Repeating Eating Pattern): "These questions uncover YOUR predictable pattern in eating mistakes. This pattern is important to learn so you can plan the right preventative strategies:
*What type of food? What food started you off? Do you have a history of abusing a particular food?
*What type of mood? What kind of state were you in when you made the mistake -- nervous, sleep-deprived, bored, stressed, angry, frustrated?
*What environment? What place were you in when you made the mistake?
*What people were you with?
*What time was it?
(110 -111)

10 No-Fail Strategies to Prevent Your Eating Mistakes

1) Break availability: You can't eat what's not there! All studies show the more food around; the more food you eat -- and the more you think of food and feel yourself tempted
2) Delay: As time passes, cravings pass or other events capture your attention. If you tell yourself you'lleat the fattening food tonight or tomorrow instead of now, most typically when that time comes, you'll have a lot less interest in it.
3) Use Binge Busters: Sometimes you want to end a craving immediately (sometimes???). That's where these easy-to-carry products come in handy:
*sugar blocker gum: this gum is the most effective craving killer. It deactivates the sweet receptors on the tongue (NOTE: I have no idea what this gum is or where to get it, but I will google it as soon as I'm done here!)
*Halls Sugar-Free Mentho-Lyptus drops
*Lysterine Breath Strips (or comparable brand)
4) Don't go hungry
5) Avoid packaging temptations: store packaged food in brown paper bags to stop this temptation
6) Use blocking behavior: In psychology...this is a strategy or doing something harmless or positive to make it hard to do some other thing that is harmful or negative. Examples: have a no-eating rule while watching TV or keep your hands busy during that time
7) Diversion
8) Cognitive switching: C.S. means talking to yourself in a new way. All of us carry on a continueing inner dialogue about other people or events or about ourselves. How we talk to ourselves about food either encourages overeating or empowers us to limit or avoid it entirely. The winners at weight control permanently change their thinking as well as their weight. For example, Instead of saying, 'The food looks tempting' switch to 'Do I like it enough to wear it? I've tasted it all before. It didn't make me happy; it only made me fat'. OR instead of saying to yourself 'I'll have just one' switch to 'If I could have just one, why have I been fat for 20 years? I've ben eating for decades, and one was never enough. Stop lying to myself. If I don't take the first little taste, if I don't begin, I won't have any problem'".
9) Think substitution, not deprivation: find "light, delicious alternatives to higher-calorie foods"
10) Mental rehearsal: use this trick to turn us off to the very foods that tempt us the most. First, identify what foods you will find the most tempting in terms of sight and smell in the situation you are preparing for. Then repeat to yourself something like this: I will smell pizza when I walk through the door, or I will smell cookies baking. Or I will see the desserts. And then tell yourself: It doesn't work for me. And I don't want to wear it! This is the food that made me fat. Then put a negative association with the food -- your highest weight, a part of your body where you can't stand the fat. Imagine the food going to your thighs, your derriere, or a bloated face the next day. Imaging the bulging stomach such foods have given you. Keep repeating until you get bored with the repetition and you say to yourself, "Enough already!" The whole thing takes just 1 ot 3 minutes. Most of my clients can do it in a minute. What it does is reprogram your mind against the two strongest elements of cravings: seeing and smelling. So when you walk into the situation, the food won't have the magnetic pull on you any longer.
(111 - 119)

Tomorrows Thin Commandment: Stop Feeling Deprived

(my fingers hurt)

[Getting there!!!]

Thanks for the next commandment I'm sure your fingers def hurt! You're great for typing it all. That is so me with the oh well I blew it syndrome, I might as well have more!
I've heard of "chain smoking"--now there's "chain-eating"!
I have a good friend who always when she eats chocolate(fav being kit-kat chunky) says oh I might as well skip the eating part and just post the bar to my thighs cos that's where it's gonna end up anyway! The same friend wears a size8/U.S.4--grrrr!xx

[cskies]

Hi all!!

B- 4 scrambled eggs
L- 1 hamburger pattie
D- 1 hamburger pattie, 1 all beef hot dog

I usually drink coffee, black with a packet of equal or water during the day.
And I do use a bit of ketsup and mustard with my hamburger.

I used to walk around 6 to 8 miles a day but have only been logging 3 to 4 miles a day lately!

[Bumblebea]

Getting There and IM2Fat - thanks for the shout-out.

This is definitely a very welcoming and supportive forum so I think I'll stick around and poke my nose in now and then.

I'll definitely let you guys know how I'm getting on.

[Lynnehermena]

I am feeling your pain Daisy. I too had a bad night. I picked up Popeyes for the family. And I ate not only 3 pieces of chicken but some cole slaw as well... I am resolved to do better. Began today on the right track.

Thanks so much Daisy for posting the commandment. This one is good. I will print it out and reread it on the way home.

Have a good day everybody.

-Lynne

[aleriaaa]

Hey there!!

I'm up and at em' today, but so is my weight. With the addition of Robitussin (against my better judgement) for the last few nights, I am now up 3 to 144. Guess Im just in sugar-shock at the moment.

Hope everyone has a great day!

[Getting there!!!]

Hi Al! Good that you're up and about! Sorry about the gain-prob just water tho. I was gonna weigh today but my scale is broken-the battery is gone or at least it's on its way out! It kept bouncing around and flashing with 2.6 and 3.9lbs-somehow don't think I weigh that little!! xx

[slatman]

Good Morning

Weight: 210
Exercise: Walking & Jogging tonight

B: Water
L: Hamburger patty & cottage cheese
D: Chicken

[aleriaaa]

Welcome Bumblebea and Jengersnaps!!! You are going to do so well on this plan. Let us know what you're eating and how you're doing!

Beth - Woohoo on the loss!

IM2 - You changed your pic! Almost didnt recognize you!

Speaking of delicious deviled eggs... I used to make a mean spinach, bacon and onion batch with dijon mustard. mmm mmm good

I'm thinking I'd like to put the scale away for a few days. I was so excited to see 141 the other day and now Im feeling....ugh. (I knew I would gain it back, but I was really crossing my fingers I wouldn't)

Menu today, like most days.... turkey soup.

[aleriaaa]

Hey Daisy! Thanks for the CO update. I have some in the pantry but am a little nervous to use it. A while back when I tried it out (in my coffee-yuck), it would make me a little sick to my stomach and I would get really really hot. Red faced and sweating! Do the initial symptoms go away as you get used to it or am I just strange?

[Getting there!!!]

God Slatman-is that all you're eating and with all that exercise?? Your calories are really low. You'll def loose tho--hee!

[aleriaaa]

Slatman and cskies! You two are so clean-cut. Perfect menus AND exercise and NO complaints. You make this look too easy!! Nice job!!

[slatman]

Jump on board! we've gotten many people moving and metabolisms healed... it's amazing what you can do when you have real energy!

[slatman]

Usually re-feed on weekends but am out of town for daughters softball tournament will try to eat clean all weekend and visit the hotel exercise room --- NO gum and soda all week yay

[Beth Sch]

Slateman! WTG! You've lost 2 lbs really fast! KUTGW! What are your calories, like around 900 or so?

Al! Dont' even sweat those lbs. Just silly water! You'll dump that soon! I just hope you feel better!

Well, I can't believe it either, I'm down another .6! I'll take it! I'm on my goal of almost 3 for the week. I think there is something to visualization and positive thinking. I keep saying the number I want to see and it's happening! Okay, maybe it's just my body letting go!

Have a great day all!

[JengerSnaps]

Was down .8 today! Yay!

Yesterday's Menu:
B: 2 HB eggs
L: Turkey Soup
Dinner: Turkey
Tons of water

Today's Menu:
B: 2 HB Eggs
L: Steak w/ 2 tsp cottage cheese
D: Steak w/ 2 tsp cottage cheese
Even more water

[aleriaaa]

Originally Posted by Beth Sch

Well, I can't believe it either, I'm down another .6! I'll take it! I'm on my goal of almost 3 for the week. I think there is something to visualization and positive thinking. I keep saying the number I want to see and it's happening!

I will lose 3 pounds! I will lose 3 pounds! I will lose 3 pounds!

There! Im good to go!

[slatman]

I don't count calories, I just plan the day and stick with it... it's so easy when you are not real hungry and get to eat till satisfied... the exercise and water take care of the rest..I did stillman's without the water before and failed miserably... I did stillman's before without exercise and failed miserably... when you train your body to use protein and fat for fuel it really does feel great...

[aleriaaa]

Great job Jenger!! This plan works!! Especially when there's turkey soup involved..