What Is The Stillman Diet?

erickajean · 01-06-2008, 02:43 PM

I've never heard of this before today, does anyone have some info? Is it the same as Atkins? All this LC info is so confusing for me, I'm a new-bee at all this. I am on day 3 of induction and am wondering if one is better than other. I have finally learned that Kimkins is crap, thanks to everyone here. So, again, your feedback here would be awesome!

Thanks!

anniemo · 01-06-2008, 02:52 PM

i think stillman's is used to break through stalls but not sustainable. i think it is meant to be a temporary diet as opposed to a woe like atkins. i'm not completely sure because stillman's is one of the books i haven't read.

lisabinil · 01-06-2008, 02:53 PM

Ericka get a copy of DANDR! It will help you out so much. Another good book I can recommend is Johnny Bowden's "Living the Low Carb Life", it explains why l works and gives an overview of 17 different lc WOE. You can check out Stillman's in the Other Plans Forum-read the sticky at the top, it'll give you lots of good info. You keep right on asking questions and researching-you're on the right path!

JuliaL · 01-06-2008, 03:36 PM

Ericka - Stillmans is a very restrictive diet. I think you should stick with Atkins a bit longer and see how you do before you decide to look at other plans. Atkins is great, and for most people it works just fine.

cleochatra · 01-06-2008, 03:42 PM

Buy the book and read it! It is so worth it. You'll refer to it a lot. Here, we can tell you what we know, but it's secondhand. From the good Dr Atkins, it's right from the super mensch's mouth!

fawn · 01-06-2008, 05:00 PM

Extreme diets do not work in the long run. Calorie restriction only sets you up for failure later when trying to maintain.
I recommend Atkins, do some research and when you get to know your body, you will be able to tweak things here and there.

I got to goal on no less than 1800 calories a day.

To this day, I eat about that.

I eat only whole real full fat foods and love them.

OhYeahBabe · 01-06-2008, 05:56 PM

Fawn, I really appreciated your perspective in your response. Thanks!

ErikaJean - you've gotten some awesome advice. Good luck to you!

dointhis4me · 01-06-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fawn

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I got to goal on no less than 1800 calories a day.

To this day, I eat about that.

Don't mean to threadjack but Fawn I am so happy to see this! I have been worried because I just started using Fitday again and my calories have been over 1600 each day and I was worried I was eating too much...I love the knowledge you bring to this board!

annaserv · 01-07-2008, 04:04 AM

I tried breaking a stall with Stillsmans a while back. The only thing it did for me is give me vegetable carvings and made be soo appreciate Atkins when I was done with it. Lost no weight on it and felt exhausted. Maybe that's why I didn't lose any weight I was so inactive and tired.

fawn · 01-07-2008, 06:17 AM

Girls....I've been doing a lot of reading while on vacation. I've noticed that when I pull back on calories and/or fat, I bloat and potentially gain more easily.

In some reading I've done, my diet has been substantiated in many different ways. Interestingly enough, in the book "The Diet Cure" Julia Ross claims that there is no substantial evidence or studies out there that claims calories count. Quality food counts with higher fat contents.
She also states that the body can be re-trained to tolerate higher calorie intake with the right foods. Those that are calorie resistant can in fact re-train their bodies but you must expect a slight gain and then a loss and leveling.
Low calorie diets are quite detrimental to the body. I'll post more as I get through the book but this is in the first couple of chapters. It's a killer read quite honestly.

momov2boys · 01-07-2008, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fawn

Extreme diets do not work in the long run. Calorie restriction only sets you up for failure later when trying to maintain.

*This is so very true and extremely important to remember!!!*

Sweet_Me · 01-09-2008, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fawn

Interestingly enough, in the book "The Diet Cure" Julia Ross claims that there is no substantial evidence or studies out there that claims calories count. Quality food counts with higher fat contents.

I wish my computer had never crashed. I had some great links to studies that DO show that calories count, but different foods are processed diffrently.

knoxvegas · 01-10-2008, 06:10 AM

I went on Atkins after KK and gained 30 plus pounds. Not for me. Different things work for different people.

erickajean · 01-10-2008, 08:32 AM

I have been doing A72, the original Atkins. After lots of research, I felt it was best for me. I am already down 4 lbs, and have NO CRAVINGS! I have always had cravings, so going through the day feeling satisfied is wonderful. Also, I am eating fats like mayo and olive oil!!!

fawn · 01-10-2008, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet_Me

I wish my computer had never crashed. I had some great links to studies that DO show that calories count, but different foods are processed diffrently.

When one is eating the highest quality of foods, ie: highest nutrient density, it has been proven over and over that calories are less significant.
I am proof of this.

I kept my carbs very low for a very long time. However, I was also eating a lot of splenda products and low carb processed foods. The moment I cut out anything processed, added additiona fat, veggies and fruit, I slimmed immediately.

Sweet_Me · 01-11-2008, 12:28 AM

When one is eating the highest quality of foods, ie: highest nutrient density, it has been proven over and over that calories are less significant.
I am proof of this.

I think we might be saying similar things. I too lose easier when I am eating more whole unprocessed foods. What I was trying to say that if you eat 4000 calories of even whole foods you are not that likely to loose unless your activity levels support that.

~Gwen

fawn · 01-11-2008, 11:27 AM

Ah I see what you are saying Gwen.....
4000 calories is definitey a lot isn't it?
I think one would have a difficult time eating that many calories in a nutrient dense diet. Although, I've seen stranger things!

Donnalb3000 · 01-12-2008, 02:20 PM

it depends the quick weight lost one you do to lose weight fat for a shortime. The other one you do it for 14 days you can have a little bit of skim milk for coffer.
1/2cup of cottage cheese.
Vegtable too.
meat eggs
That what I'm doing

01-06-2008, 02:43 PM	#1
erickajean Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 503 Blog Entries: 21 Gallery: erickajean Stats: 14/12/4 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: January 9, 2008	What Is The Stillman Diet? I've never heard of this before today, does anyone have some info? Is it the same as Atkins? All this LC info is so confusing for me, I'm a new-bee at all this. I am on day 3 of induction and am wondering if one is better than other. I have finally learned that Kimkins is crap, thanks to everyone here. So, again, your feedback here would be awesome! Thanks!

01-07-2008, 06:17 AM	#10
fawn Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 8,143 Gallery: fawn Stats: 210/120 WOE: Eating For Health Start Date: 2/2000	Girls....I've been doing a lot of reading while on vacation. I've noticed that when I pull back on calories and/or fat, I bloat and potentially gain more easily. In some reading I've done, my diet has been substantiated in many different ways. Interestingly enough, in the book "The Diet Cure" Julia Ross claims that there is no substantial evidence or studies out there that claims calories count. Quality food counts with higher fat contents. She also states that the body can be re-trained to tolerate higher calorie intake with the right foods. Those that are calorie resistant can in fact re-train their bodies but you must expect a slight gain and then a loss and leveling. Low calorie diets are quite detrimental to the body. I'll post more as I get through the book but this is in the first couple of chapters. It's a killer read quite honestly. __________________ 210/120 Maintenance It's as simple as removing the refined foods from your life permanently. With that, discover what nature's bounty has to offer organically, seasonally and locally. "The doctor of the future will give no medicine, but will interest his patient in the care of the human frame, in the diet and in the cause and prevention of disease" Thomas Edison

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01-06-2008, 02:52 PM	#2
anniemo MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: brooklyn, ny Posts: 1,230 Gallery: anniemo WOE: whole organic lc Start Date: november 2007	i think stillman's is used to break through stalls but not sustainable. i think it is meant to be a temporary diet as opposed to a woe like atkins. i'm not completely sure because stillman's is one of the books i haven't read.

01-06-2008, 02:53 PM	#3
lisabinil Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: suburbs of Chicago Posts: 8,773 Gallery: lisabinil Stats: 214/185/180 287 in 00 WOE: higher carb Atkins Start Date: SBD 3/5/07,Atkins 4/18/07	Ericka get a copy of DANDR! It will help you out so much. Another good book I can recommend is Johnny Bowden's "Living the Low Carb Life", it explains why l works and gives an overview of 17 different lc WOE. You can check out Stillman's in the Other Plans Forum-read the sticky at the top, it'll give you lots of good info. You keep right on asking questions and researching-you're on the right path!

01-06-2008, 03:36 PM	#4
JuliaL Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 17,010 Gallery: JuliaL Stats: 190/142/140 16/8/6, height 5'8", age 48 WOE: Atkins/BFFM Start Date: 4/22/03	Ericka - Stillmans is a very restrictive diet. I think you should stick with Atkins a bit longer and see how you do before you decide to look at other plans. Atkins is great, and for most people it works just fine.

01-06-2008, 03:42 PM	#5
cleochatra Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 7,712 Gallery: cleochatra Stats: 350/264/125 WOE: Atkins Start Date: January 1, 2008	Buy the book and read it! It is so worth it. You'll refer to it a lot. Here, we can tell you what we know, but it's secondhand. From the good Dr Atkins, it's right from the super mensch's mouth!

01-06-2008, 05:00 PM	#6
fawn Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 8,143 Gallery: fawn Stats: 210/120 WOE: Eating For Health Start Date: 2/2000	Extreme diets do not work in the long run. Calorie restriction only sets you up for failure later when trying to maintain. I recommend Atkins, do some research and when you get to know your body, you will be able to tweak things here and there. I got to goal on no less than 1800 calories a day. To this day, I eat about that. I eat only whole real full fat foods and love them.

01-06-2008, 05:56 PM	#7
OhYeahBabe Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 709 Gallery: OhYeahBabe	Fawn, I really appreciated your perspective in your response. Thanks! ErikaJean - you've gotten some awesome advice. Good luck to you!

01-07-2008, 04:04 AM	#9
annaserv Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: North Posts: 249 Gallery: annaserv Stats: 177/149/132 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 4/23/03	I tried breaking a stall with Stillsmans a while back. The only thing it did for me is give me vegetable carvings and made be soo appreciate Atkins when I was done with it. Lost no weight on it and felt exhausted. Maybe that's why I didn't lose any weight I was so inactive and tired.

01-10-2008, 06:10 AM	#13
knoxvegas Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 36 Gallery: knoxvegas	I went on Atkins after KK and gained 30 plus pounds. Not for me. Different things work for different people.

01-10-2008, 08:32 AM	#14
erickajean Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 503 Blog Entries: 21 Gallery: erickajean Stats: 14/12/4 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: January 9, 2008	I have been doing A72, the original Atkins. After lots of research, I felt it was best for me. I am already down 4 lbs, and have NO CRAVINGS! I have always had cravings, so going through the day feeling satisfied is wonderful. Also, I am eating fats like mayo and olive oil!!!

01-11-2008, 12:28 AM	#16
Sweet_Me Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Okanogan, WA Posts: 7 Gallery: Sweet_Me Stats: 340/312/145 WOE: My Way	When one is eating the highest quality of foods, ie: highest nutrient density, it has been proven over and over that calories are less significant. I am proof of this. I think we might be saying similar things. I too lose easier when I am eating more whole unprocessed foods. What I was trying to say that if you eat 4000 calories of even whole foods you are not that likely to loose unless your activity levels support that. ~Gwen

01-11-2008, 11:27 AM	#17
fawn Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 8,143 Gallery: fawn Stats: 210/120 WOE: Eating For Health Start Date: 2/2000	Ah I see what you are saying Gwen..... 4000 calories is definitey a lot isn't it? I think one would have a difficult time eating that many calories in a nutrient dense diet. Although, I've seen stranger things!

01-12-2008, 02:20 PM	#18
Donnalb3000 Junior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 48 Gallery: Donnalb3000	it depends the quick weight lost one you do to lose weight fat for a shortime. The other one you do it for 14 days you can have a little bit of skim milk for coffer. 1/2cup of cottage cheese. Vegtable too. meat eggs That what I'm doing