What is Stillmans??

Mellissa · 07-21-2004, 10:53 AM

I keep hearing about Stillmans? What is this exactly??

Kimmer · 07-21-2004, 11:01 AM

An extremely low carb low calorie program designed by Irwin Stillman, MD, when he was in medical school and morbidly obese.

The original plan is lean protein, no added fat, lowfat cheese, diet beverages. No veggies.

If you want the best results, follow the original program not the 'modified' one that appears on this BB.

doxielvr · 07-21-2004, 11:11 AM

I did the original version years ago and it does give extremely fast loss (or maybe it was just because I was younger??) but it also gave the absolute WORST constipation I have ever experienced in my entire life. When I see people here post about the "meat fast" to me that is Stillman's without the cottage cheese!

Kimmer · 07-21-2004, 11:17 AM

The meat fast allows protein cooked any style, including fried. Stillman's is no added fat, even for eggs. Some modify by using mayo, yogurt, sauces and circumvent the intent by creating desserts with nonfat cream cheese.

Original Stillman's is 600-750 calories and very, very low carbs. The 'modified' plan on this BB could easily be double that with half the original results.

Just a word to the wise ...

Mellissa · 07-21-2004, 03:36 PM

Thanks Kimmers! I knew you'd help!! I've been thinking of trying kimkins, but I am afraid of fitday and counting protein

. It's so easy just to count carbs. I had my my first cheat of high carb foods a few weeks ago and have been hungry ever since... not to mention losing slowly and barely being in ketosis.

Kimmer · 07-21-2004, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by Mellissa
Thanks Kimmers! I knew you'd help!! I've been thinking of trying kimkins, but I am afraid of fitday and counting protein . It's so easy just to count carbs. I had my my first cheat of high carb foods a few weeks ago and have been hungry ever since... not to mention losing slowly and barely being in ketosis.

Afraid of Fitday? LOL, don't blame you on that one. I counted protein to make sure I got enough in because in deep 'real' ketosis you have little, if any, appetite.

Stillman's can work out to be similar because if you follow the original plan, you'll lose your appetite in 3-5 days (depends on how 'over' you are on carbs now) ... and if you add a couple small salads eventually, it's not much different.

The most important thing to is follow a plan that you like and feels good for what you're willing to do and fits in your lifestyle. I started my weight loss phase with 3 days of Stillman's to get into ketosis ASAP!

Have you joined any of the Challenge groups?

Catheryn · 08-04-2004, 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmer
The meat fast allows protein cooked any style, including fried. Stillman's is no added fat, even for eggs. Some modify by using mayo, yogurt, sauces and circumvent the intent by creating desserts with nonfat cream cheese.

Original Stillman's is 600-750 calories and very, very low carbs. The 'modified' plan on this BB could easily be double that with half the original results.

Just a word to the wise ...

Kimmer, how do you know that it is really 600-750 calories? I just re-read the book, and I didn't see that anywhere?

Angebee · 08-04-2004, 08:29 AM

Kimmer - what did you eat the first 3 days of Stillman's? I am thinking about trying it but wanted to see what you ate. I have some info on it and have read some posts here but you said it is modified on these boards. Is it listed on your Fitday?

Kimmer · 08-04-2004, 09:17 AM

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Originally posted by Angebee
Kimmer - what did you eat the first 3 days of Stillman's? I am thinking about trying it but wanted to see what you ate. I have some info on it and have read some posts here but you said it is modified on these boards. Is it listed on your Fitday?

I ate broiled skinless chicken breasts and hard boiled eggs (even a small lean steak is too high in calories).

Catherine, sorry I didn't see your post (I don't check back on many threads after I've had my say, LOL). I read the 600-750 calorie estimate in a book from Dr. Stillman. If not the original, then the second. I haven't read either since 1975.

Catheryn · 08-04-2004, 09:43 AM

Kimmer, I just read the book, and he says that 400-900 calories are normal, and sometimes even 2000 is not uncommon. Lean steak is definitely acceptable.

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07-21-2004, 11:01 AM	#2
Kimmer Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: California Posts: 19,123 Gallery: Kimmer Stats: 318/118/125 WOE: Kimkins	An extremely low carb low calorie program designed by Irwin Stillman, MD, when he was in medical school and morbidly obese. The original plan is lean protein, no added fat, lowfat cheese, diet beverages. No veggies. If you want the best results, follow the original program not the 'modified' one that appears on this BB.

07-21-2004, 11:11 AM	#3
doxielvr Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: CT Posts: 5,330 Gallery: doxielvr Stats: fat/less fat/not fat WOE: is me Start Date: any day now	I did the original version years ago and it does give extremely fast loss (or maybe it was just because I was younger??) but it also gave the absolute WORST constipation I have ever experienced in my entire life. When I see people here post about the "meat fast" to me that is Stillman's without the cottage cheese!

07-21-2004, 11:17 AM	#4
Kimmer Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: California Posts: 19,123 Gallery: Kimmer Stats: 318/118/125 WOE: Kimkins	The meat fast allows protein cooked any style, including fried. Stillman's is no added fat, even for eggs. Some modify by using mayo, yogurt, sauces and circumvent the intent by creating desserts with nonfat cream cheese. Original Stillman's is 600-750 calories and very, very low carbs. The 'modified' plan on this BB could easily be double that with half the original results. Just a word to the wise ...

07-21-2004, 03:36 PM	#5
Mellissa Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 180 Gallery: Mellissa Stats: 175/148/125 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 5/10/2004	Thanks Kimmers! I knew you'd help!! I've been thinking of trying kimkins, but I am afraid of fitday and counting protein . It's so easy just to count carbs. I had my my first cheat of high carb foods a few weeks ago and have been hungry ever since... not to mention losing slowly and barely being in ketosis.

08-04-2004, 08:29 AM	#8
Angebee Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 5,258 Gallery: Angebee Stats: Size 18/12&10/6 5'3" WOE: Body for Life Start Date: LC 1/5/04...BFL 6/12/05	Kimmer - what did you eat the first 3 days of Stillman's? I am thinking about trying it but wanted to see what you ate. I have some info on it and have read some posts here but you said it is modified on these boards. Is it listed on your Fitday?

08-04-2004, 09:43 AM	#10
Catheryn Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: suburbs of Detroit Posts: 472 Gallery: Catheryn Stats: 172/142/140 WOE: original Atkins of '72 Start Date: 2001	Kimmer, I just read the book, and he says that 400-900 calories are normal, and sometimes even 2000 is not uncommon. Lean steak is definitely acceptable.