am I missing something?

BetsyAnn · 04-21-2007, 02:44 PM

I have read the sb book twice this week and either I am missing something or it is very vague. It doesnt tell me amounts of most things to eat....does this mean I can eat however much I need to? I dont really want to go by the suggested menus in the book...some of that stuff doesnt fit my lifestyle. I would like to use the food list to create my own menu.

LowCarbRachel · 04-21-2007, 05:38 PM

Hi, Betsy.

I don't have the book but I did join the website, which says in Phase 1 to have:

breakfast:
2 oz protein
1/2 cup veggies
1 tsp fat

snack:
ounce of protein, veggies

lunch:
3oz protein
2 cups veggies
2TBSP salad dressing or 1 TBSP olive oil

snack:
ounce of protein, veggies

dinner:
3oz protein
2 cups veggies
2 TBSP salad dressing or 1 TBSP olive oil

Those protein amounts are starting quantities. You can go back for more if you are still hungry.

Plus:
2 servings of nonfat plain yogurt or milk
1 serving of nuts or 2 TBSP natural peanut butter
1/2 cup of beans or 2 TBSP hummus
75-100 calories of sugar-free treats, like sugar free fudgesicles
and a few other things you'll find on the phase 1 list

That's a quick reference. You'll want to check the food lists to understand what qualifies for protein, veggies, etc.

Hope this helps!!

rose1 · 04-21-2007, 08:51 PM

According to the book, you eat until satisfied, but not stuffed. So Rachel is right, those are starting amounts. The menus are examples, not what you have to eat on certain days. Use the acceptable food lists to create your own meals. Be as creative as you want. And

BetsyAnn · 04-21-2007, 11:17 PM

thanks so much for your help...I guess I was taking it right, I just wanted to be sure!

Neesie 2x · 04-22-2007, 06:27 AM

Hi Betsy Ann. It's so funny that you asked this question as I was going to post the same one today. I got the SB book yesterday and was confused by how many SB'ers watch the quantites of the allowed foods they consume. The book clearly states not to worry about quantities and the food lists do not mention them. I do know that after being on the WOE for a while that the amount you eat tends to lessen as a result of how you're now eating. Also many SB'ers limit their dairy consumption - which from what I read in the book as long as you stick to lower fat types that there wee no quantity limits -which is also confusing since low fat milk and light mayo has more carbs that regular types. I beleived that quantities were not an issue as long as you ate the approved foods as the quantity does not affect the G.I. Is this incorrect? Could someone please point me to where they got their limits guidance information? I'd be very interested to read further on this issue.
Thanks so much!
Neesie

LowCarbRachel · 04-22-2007, 08:49 AM

I got the limits on the website. And, those are the P1 limits, which of course change in P2.

I know it's confusing, so I tend to look at those guidelines I posted as a general idea of what to follow. I think they probably added these guidelines because some people like quite a bit of structure and some people probably needed help controlling their portions to lose weight. For example, I know I didn't lose as well as I could have on Atkins because I choose to eat lots of cream cheese, butter, heavy cream, nuts, and cheese. I wasn't naturally controlling my own portions like I seem to be on SBD.

What I'm doing is just trying to keep some general guidelines in mind on the plan. Now that I'm starting Phase 2, I might think like this as I go along my day and choose what I want to eat...I'm hungry, what would I like that will satisfy my hungry and make me feel great?

have I had 2-3 dairy servings, like nonfat milk or nonfat yogurt?
have I had 2-3 servings of lean protein, like scrambled eggs or lean meats?
have I had 4.5 cups of green veggies?
what will I have for my fruit today?
what will I have for my grain today?
do I want to add some lowfat cheese?
do I want to add some beans?
do I want to add some nuts or natural peanut butter?
do I want to use salad dressing or olive oil?
do I want my "sweet treat" today? (75-100 calories of a sugar-free candy or a no-sugar added fudgesicle or sugar free popsicle)

Good luck!
Rachel

Neesie 2x · 04-23-2007, 07:44 AM

Is that the South Beach website Rachel?

LowCarbRachel · 04-23-2007, 11:58 AM

Yes, the south beach website (you have to pay to join)

04-21-2007, 02:44 PM	#1
BetsyAnn MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Born and raised a Hoosier but temporarily On the banks of the Mississippi right between Tom and Huck Posts: 1,846 Gallery: BetsyAnn	am I missing something? I have read the sb book twice this week and either I am missing something or it is very vague. It doesnt tell me amounts of most things to eat....does this mean I can eat however much I need to? I dont really want to go by the suggested menus in the book...some of that stuff doesnt fit my lifestyle. I would like to use the food list to create my own menu.

04-23-2007, 07:44 AM	#7
Neesie 2x Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Maine Posts: 875 Gallery: Neesie 2x Stats: 186/144/134 WOE: South Beach Start Date: January 2, 2007	Which Website? Is that the South Beach website Rachel?

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04-21-2007, 05:38 PM	#2
LowCarbRachel Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Salt Lake Area Posts: 12,011 Gallery: LowCarbRachel Stats: size 4/6 (maintaining) WOE: eating healthy foods	Hi, Betsy. I don't have the book but I did join the website, which says in Phase 1 to have: breakfast: 2 oz protein 1/2 cup veggies 1 tsp fat snack: ounce of protein, veggies lunch: 3oz protein 2 cups veggies 2TBSP salad dressing or 1 TBSP olive oil snack: ounce of protein, veggies dinner: 3oz protein 2 cups veggies 2 TBSP salad dressing or 1 TBSP olive oil Those protein amounts are starting quantities. You can go back for more if you are still hungry. Plus: 2 servings of nonfat plain yogurt or milk 1 serving of nuts or 2 TBSP natural peanut butter 1/2 cup of beans or 2 TBSP hummus 75-100 calories of sugar-free treats, like sugar free fudgesicles and a few other things you'll find on the phase 1 list That's a quick reference. You'll want to check the food lists to understand what qualifies for protein, veggies, etc. Hope this helps!!

04-21-2007, 08:51 PM	#3
rose1 Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 10,931 Gallery: rose1 WOE: Vegetarian version of SB Start Date: June, 2005	According to the book, you eat until satisfied, but not stuffed. So Rachel is right, those are starting amounts. The menus are examples, not what you have to eat on certain days. Use the acceptable food lists to create your own meals. Be as creative as you want. And

04-21-2007, 11:17 PM	#4
BetsyAnn MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Born and raised a Hoosier but temporarily On the banks of the Mississippi right between Tom and Huck Posts: 1,846 Gallery: BetsyAnn	thanks so much for your help...I guess I was taking it right, I just wanted to be sure!

04-22-2007, 06:27 AM	#5
Neesie 2x Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Maine Posts: 875 Gallery: Neesie 2x Stats: 186/144/134 WOE: South Beach Start Date: January 2, 2007	Hi Betsy Ann. It's so funny that you asked this question as I was going to post the same one today. I got the SB book yesterday and was confused by how many SB'ers watch the quantites of the allowed foods they consume. The book clearly states not to worry about quantities and the food lists do not mention them. I do know that after being on the WOE for a while that the amount you eat tends to lessen as a result of how you're now eating. Also many SB'ers limit their dairy consumption - which from what I read in the book as long as you stick to lower fat types that there wee no quantity limits -which is also confusing since low fat milk and light mayo has more carbs that regular types. I beleived that quantities were not an issue as long as you ate the approved foods as the quantity does not affect the G.I. Is this incorrect? Could someone please point me to where they got their limits guidance information? I'd be very interested to read further on this issue. Thanks so much! Neesie

04-22-2007, 08:49 AM	#6
LowCarbRachel Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Salt Lake Area Posts: 12,011 Gallery: LowCarbRachel Stats: size 4/6 (maintaining) WOE: eating healthy foods	I got the limits on the website. And, those are the P1 limits, which of course change in P2. I know it's confusing, so I tend to look at those guidelines I posted as a general idea of what to follow. I think they probably added these guidelines because some people like quite a bit of structure and some people probably needed help controlling their portions to lose weight. For example, I know I didn't lose as well as I could have on Atkins because I choose to eat lots of cream cheese, butter, heavy cream, nuts, and cheese. I wasn't naturally controlling my own portions like I seem to be on SBD. What I'm doing is just trying to keep some general guidelines in mind on the plan. Now that I'm starting Phase 2, I might think like this as I go along my day and choose what I want to eat...I'm hungry, what would I like that will satisfy my hungry and make me feel great? have I had 2-3 dairy servings, like nonfat milk or nonfat yogurt? have I had 2-3 servings of lean protein, like scrambled eggs or lean meats? have I had 4.5 cups of green veggies? what will I have for my fruit today? what will I have for my grain today? do I want to add some lowfat cheese? do I want to add some beans? do I want to add some nuts or natural peanut butter? do I want to use salad dressing or olive oil? do I want my "sweet treat" today? (75-100 calories of a sugar-free candy or a no-sugar added fudgesicle or sugar free popsicle) Good luck! Rachel

04-23-2007, 11:58 AM	#8
LowCarbRachel Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Salt Lake Area Posts: 12,011 Gallery: LowCarbRachel Stats: size 4/6 (maintaining) WOE: eating healthy foods	Yes, the south beach website (you have to pay to join)