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Old 06-12-2014, 12:32 PM   #1
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Time Magazine: Eat Butter

Can't wait to read this!

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Old 06-12-2014, 12:44 PM   #2
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That butter curl looks delectable. Mmmm!
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Old 06-12-2014, 01:18 PM   #3
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I almost subscribed online to Time for a month just to get that article. I'll wait on someone's feedback and might just go to a busy grocery store and stand in line a long time.

Only thing that concerns me is that the media flip flops so much - too bad there isn't a watch group that tallies up frequency of articles to see if the tide really is turning (some type of scorecard). It's like when you buy a car, you start seeing that model everywhere. We're so sensitive to this topic we notice it.
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My mom keeps saying "everything is bad now". People are skeptical because of this flip-flop.

Not just carbs vs. fat but nutritional articles in general. It's kinda like there is always this other side waiting to respond after the other attacks. Big business I guess.
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Money - it's all money

Unfortunately, the media needs to sell stories so they need to keep finding a new angle to sell a story. There are a few zealots like us who would read this same type of article over and over, patting ourselves on the back for being so smart. But, I suspect many would say: yeah, whatever, I already read that.
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It's great that the word is getting out to mainstream publications. I'm looking forward to reading the article.
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Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to check that out. Sbarr, do you have a Barnes & Noble near by? I might hit them up just to read it. What I like, in all these articles coming out, is they aren't just saying fats aren't bad. For the most part they are saying, how/why the current dogma is wrong. It's a start.
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Old 06-12-2014, 02:44 PM   #9
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snowangel - you're right, it's a start. I'm almost inclined to do a straw pole with an article like this - my 82 yo father, my carbo-holic ex, my diabetic neighbor, my old flame (who is interested in exercise and nutrition), my over-educated smart cleaning lady and a couple other different types and ask: "what is your takeaway from this article".

I know - I won't do it, but it would be interesting to see what the rest of the world thinks. I've pretty much gone underground on the topic, except the cleaning lady and my health nut old flame but they're always good for intellectual discussions.

Maybe I'll go to B&N tomorrow...
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Ohhh come on... do it
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Maybe I will... I'll make sure to include my primary care doctor when i go for my physical - after having lost almost 35# this year. She's not opposed to low carb, she's just solidly in the "moderation" camp and is quite vocal about it. I'm not against moderation, but it's harder for some of us to be moderate.

OK - it's a fun idea... let me read the article first... this could actually be a fun exercise.
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The Today Show reported on it this morning, and did a wonderful job. The medical reporter talked about how it's not just butter and that chicken skin or any type of saturated fat is good. She went on to explain the difference between the LDL types and how the large fluffy types (which are elevated by eating saturated fats) are benign, and that the small dense LDL (which are elevated by eating carbohydrates) were the problem. She was quite specific that one can safely eat saturated fats, but do not spread the butter on bagels - she advised that butter should be put on vegetables, instead.
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Yay, Yes maybe better read it first, if it's crap it might do more damage than good
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If you go to Time's website you can watch a video that highlights the info from the article. You can also view the Today Show clip on NBC's website.
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Sbarr, if you have a Kindle you can buy the issue for 1.99. No need to stand in line. I assume that iPad users have a similar access.

Unfortunately the issue about saturated fats does not seem to be available yet in the Kindle store. The issue that I see available has Bergdahl on the cover. Time's website shows the fat issue having a 6/23/14 date. Looks like we may have to wait a few more days before it's available in digital format.
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If you go to Time's website you can watch a video that highlights the info from the article. You can also view the Today Show clip on NBC's website.
Thanks; I'll do that.

It has actually been a month or more since I bought butter. I just might get some over the weekend. Salted butter.

Never fear, I had plenty of other yummy fat, including local ghee.

Maybe we should all print out huge blowups of the Time cover & stick them in our front windows...
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Watched the Today show clip and thought it was very good. Looking forward to the article!!
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That butter curl looks delectable. Mmmm!
Yes, it does! Get ready for the SOP back lash.

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It has actually been a month or more since I bought butter.
I could never.

I've probably been having over a pound of butter every week since I started LCHF
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Torrent sites also tend to have a copy
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The Today Show reported on it this morning, and did a wonderful job. The medical reporter talked about how it's not just butter and that chicken skin or any type of saturated fat is good. She went on to explain the difference between the LDL types and how the large fluffy types (which are elevated by eating saturated fats) are benign, and that the small dense LDL (which are elevated by eating carbohydrates) were the problem. She was quite specific that one can safely eat saturated fats, but do not spread the butter on bagels - she advised that butter should be put on vegetables, instead.
All I could think of watching that segment was what was she saying LAST week???

It's going to be fun to watch the back peddling going on. Every show is going to feature a "fat is good for you" segment by the same nutrition experts who spent the last 50 decades telling us how to lower fat in every bite that went in our mouths.

And what will their sponsors do with all the inventory of low fat junk???
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Janknitz - there's always next week when the story changes.
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I always thought the "low fat" boom of the 90's was just a money making and advertising scheme. I sometimes think the big pharmaceutical companies don't want us to eat healthy, they would rather we all be sick so we make them (and other powers that be) rich and wealthy.

Just like for me, I used to suffer very bad panic attacks and anxiety for almost all my life. I have tried about 7 different medications including most of the benzodiazepines like xanax and recently I found inositol powder, a natural sugar alcohol found in foods, pretty much cured me from it. It's not like it's a secret, there have been many studies done with it, but the doctors are still pushing all the hard chemical medications because there is more money in it.

There was also an article in the NY TImes about fat not being as bad as we were told.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/0...ype=blogs&_r=0
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I'll be honest, low carb is mainly for my health and then my weight; BUT that I also feel like I'm sticking it to the "man" gives me a perverse thrill. I'm bucking the conventional low fat "wisdom" that is clearly NOT working for the people in this country and those people want me to subvert my own knowledge and research for THEIRS when it comes to MY body.
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Madmarsha - that made me laugh and I totally relate.
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Good point about the media flip-flopping, HOPEFULLY the difference for people out there is that they'll have noticed by now that 'low-fat eating' has devastated almost a generation of smart, good, hard-working people who found that no matter what willpower theyr brought to it all, the grain-heavy 'suger's fine' recommendations left them losing the ability to control their weight.

Hopefully!

That, and a few still remember the generation who were around before about 1975, who maintained good health and ate butter with everything... the death and devastation caused by the pro-carb lobby has almosr certainly killed and crippled more people than any war criminal in living memory.
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I'll be honest, low carb is mainly for my health and then my weight; BUT that I also feel like I'm sticking it to the "man" gives me a perverse thrill. I'm bucking the conventional low fat "wisdom" that is clearly NOT working for the people in this country and those people want me to subvert my own knowledge and research for THEIRS when it comes to MY body.


In one of the documentaries they talked about the fact that we have let Wall St. rule our lives for too long. Every bite of packaged food puts money in some Wall St. executive's pocket. Even worse, we INVITE them into our homes (via commercial tv) to market to our kids, and to convince our kids that the stuff in packages is food. It's not food, it's product. And every box we buy rewards these Wall St. execs for being way smarter than we are.

So when we instead eat real, whole food, that doesn't come in a box, bottle, can or bag, we ARE "sticking it to the man", and it feels GREAT.

However, stay tuned for part 2. The inevitable backlash is sure to hit the fan, as there are way too many multi-billion dollar corporations who are vested in the low fat, industrially processed oils to let this go without a fight.
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It's almost unfortunate Time magazine isn't nearly as popular as it used to be. If this front cover came in, say, 1990, it would be a huge deal.
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