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The benefits of slower weight loss
The benefits of fast weight loss are obvious ... it keeps us motivated, we really see the progress happening in a short time frame, the scale goes down at a rate that is rewarding, and it all just happens faster. I think it's what we tend to hope for when we start a weight loss program (I can lose X pounds by this summer if I lose 2 pounds a week every week!).
That's kind of what happened for me in the beginning when I weighed 273 pounds. I lost about 7 pounds a month, and it was very motivating. Things have slowed down now, though, and I've decided that despite the reunion with my skinny college roommates in July, I'm not going to be in a rush. I want to make progress, but think there's benefits to slower losses. Feel free to add to these ideas!
That's what comes to mind for now, but I know there's more. What am I leaving out? |
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Way too much time on my hands!
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Well, all I can say is that my skin shows obvious effects of deflation
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Sheila - that's an important one, about making it a WOE.
Carly - I probably won't be able to avoid loose skin completely, but I'm trying to look at all the bright sides of being a turtle. ![]() ![]() |
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Unless people have to lose dramatic amounts very quickly because it's medically exigent (e.g., surgery being delayed because of it) I think that slower loss has the potential to reduce the stress of calorie restriction on the body when it's somebody who has been overweight/obese for some time. In a case such as this, the body's been subjected to higher levels of inflammatory substances derived from the fat mass and the hormones released from that.
Alongside the issue of metabolic adaptation, I wonder if careful pacing of the loss (however that schedule looks) can prevent the unhelpful changes that women demonstrate with respect to the 3,500kcal = +/- 1 lb Adel Moussa's written about this in his Suppversity blog. Blogpost: Busting the 3,500kcal = 1lbs Weight Loss Myth! A Scientific Deconstruction of a Dumb Rule of Thumb Reveals that Women Need More, Men Less Than the "Rule" Predicts Quote:
Looking at both arms of that study, the very low calorie protocol was a metabolic mess for both sexes. Plus, I think it's amounting to a Freudian slip that I can't find the link for this other study but I did read a foul one that indicates that if there's weight rebound after the above circumstances, women can find themselves only needing to eat an excess 2,700kcals or so in order to lay down 1 lb of fat (less than 2,700kcals if the kcals come from dietary fat which can have a 94% efficiency conversion rate in digestion). My speculation is that for people who've dieted previously, or who have been overweight/obese for substantial periods of time, there may well be what's described as post-dieting syndrome in the Fat Trap article by Tara Parker-Pope in the NYT in 2011. Quote:
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I've been losing pretty slowly. A good side effect is that people who notice me losing weight are not concerned about me. Something else is that my body is probably reshaping at the same time, not after losing weight so how I will look like is more predictable and I am getting used to the new me better this way. Plus, I heard that it will be harder to regain after a slow weight loss. But it is nice to see the number on the scale drop sometimes as well
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I have been trying to see this as a positive thing too, Chris. I think I might be experiencing some of what Mike relayed in LCG's thread...I can follow protocol well for a few days, then I'm overeating or not sticking to the numbers consistently and lo and behold, no weight loss. I'm going to experiment with the 1700/700 plan AGAIN lol. DDs are easy(ish), but UDs not so much.
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From what I have read there are toxins and hormones (like estrogen) stored in our body fat and as we diet and lose body fat those toxins and hormones are released complicating the weight loss. Losing slower will slow down the release of those toxins/hormones but still can complicate issues.
The bulletproof fast protocol calls for taking activated charcoal throughout the day to absorb those toxins and blunt the negative effects. You need to take it away from other supplements/medicines so it does not affect those. I'm not sure it works or not but it make sense. It might just be a way to market his own activated charcoal product too, but I'm not sure it could hurt to try during active periods where your trying to burn/lose fat.
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Seems that people who lose really fast also put it back on really fast.
So, one of the benefits of JUDDD (which to me is moderate loss) is that when it goes off it stays off. ![]()
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I lost fairly quickly and have the battle scars to prove it, saggy wrinkly skin being the most noticeable. I also put weight on VERY quickly when I allow a few free days. Perhaps this wouldn't have been such an issue if I had lost more slowly.
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I'm really trying to wrap my head around the fact that losing more slowly is truly better for me. I believe it to be true, and I want to believe that I'll lose more consistently if I do that. I'm trying hard not to be impatient and want the weight to just fall off and stay off. Reality, here I come.
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I get what you're saying, Carol. It's what we all want, but reality isn't always agreeable.
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Yes, Cindy. And I just want to say how proud I am of you that you DO NOT GIVE UP! It is tough to keep plugging along without the added motivation of seeing the scale moving down on a regular basis. You are a stronger lady than you realize!
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I got the calculator out today and figured out that I have been losing an average of 1.3 pounds per week since my re-start. That's slow.
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Yam, in light of some of our recent threads, that seems a wonderful pace to maximize fat loss and minimize muscle loss ... and, with all your exercise, you very likely have also added some muscle which would make it even more than it seems.
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I agree with Christina, Yam. You're doing great! And right now I'd take that pace with a smile and a happy dance.
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I know it's better for me to lose weight slowly and I really don't want to put the weight back on. I feel my body reshaping, but every now and then I step on the scale and I think what is wrong with me? Why can't I lose weight right now.
I started JUDDD on 2/16/2013 and took a break 3/1/2014. I've been on and off all month, but it's been great because I reached a little bit of a plateau and I just wasn't committed because I was feeling over the entire process which tends to happen when you're dieting.
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It's really better to lose slowly and keep it off while really getting use to your new WOE so that you don't need to crash diet or worry about falling off the wagon. If your WOE if your WOL than you're set.
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Thanks Cindy, Carol and Chris! I've decided I'm pretty jazzed about my seemingly slow weight loss with JUDDD. Mostly it's because it actually stays off! If I go out of town like I did last week, have 3 UDs in a row and then jump back in, at least 3 things happen.
1. I don't gain as much during those "free" days as I did on other WOEs. 2. I really, really, really look forward to my welcome home DD and getting back into rotations! Honestly there has never ever been another diet where I look forward to getting back to it after a break. 3. With JUDDD the vacation weight comes right back off. Usually within 2 DD rotations. So, that's what I mean about it staying off. It's not that it doesn't bounce up after free or free-for-all days, but it's almost like phantom weight that's not real. Otherwise it wouldn't disappear so quickly. Friday was my first DD back from my trip and half the weight is gone, gone, gone. Today is my second DD since that vacation and I fully expect to be back to pre-vacay weight tomorrow morning. And then, I'm looking forward to this next week to see if I can drop even lower to a new re-start low. It's all good with JUDDD! ![]()
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Well JBs, I just returned from a lovely cruise and I have some very positive JUDDD news to share.
The first day I tried to do a DD; that DD turned into a MD. The next day I thought, hmm, I better at least do a 1200 cal day; that did not happen and instead turned into an UD. Everyday was either an UD or an UUAD and everyday I ate what I wanted, but only when hungry and only until full (not stuffed). I had a few snacks and treats when I really felt like them. I drank wine with dinner every night and had a few sugary mai tai kind of drinks as well. I was not dieting at all. By the time I returned home I had been eating what I liked, including sugar and breads and sauces and alcohol for over eight days. But this time, a couple of things were very different: 1) Once I got home I way able to do a DD without any trouble; this is in stark contrast to every other time I have dieted, where, once past a several day off-diet period, there was just no turning back and I would be unable to control my eating until I had put most (if not all or more) of the weight back on. And 2) I did not gain any weight. I feel like I have had some kind of metabolic repair process happening in my body, and my ability to control myself and my body's ability to maintain status quo while surrounded by all that food is the proof of it. I count myself amongst the slow losers group, and perhaps this is another up side of being in that group. JUDDD magic in action! Last edited by Macci; 03-31-2014 at 10:12 AM.. |
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Awesome update, Macci!
![]() Sounds like you had a lovely time and did not have to stress out about food. The no-gain and getting easily back to a DD is indeed the JUDDD magic in action. So glad you posted about this. Great news! ![]()
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I am so thrilled to read this, Macci! What a wonderful result after a fabulous vacation where you didn't deny yourself.
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Sounds great, Macci!!!
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Well done Macci.
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yay!!
Macci!
This is the thing i was just about ready to start a thread about as I will be traveling to france and for several days wont be able to cook my own food. I am delighted to know of your experience on the cruise. How nice for you to have had your cake and be able to eat it too, to have had your cruise holiday and enjoyed the food without having to forfeit the hard work you have done before. lets hope others will be able to do the same! I especially like the thing about your being able to jump back into juddd immediately! |
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Woohoo I just figured out multi quotes (I think) here goes...
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