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Old 05-18-2012, 10:25 PM   #1
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What's more important for weight loss ... CALORIES OR CARBS??

I Know it's important to count both but let's just say I was really hungry and already at my carb and calorie level for the day.... Would it be more detrimental to eat say a huge bowl of lettuce for five extra carbs but next to zero calories or chew sugar free gum ... Or eat say 200 more calories but zero carbs like meat or cheese or something... Wouldn't those calories add up in the end ?... Does this make sense??
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Old 05-18-2012, 10:58 PM   #2
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I would imagine it would be better to go with the additional calories than the carbs. I'm thinking that the extra calories (and protein) would keep you satisfied much longer than the extra carbs and fewer calories from the big bowl of salad.

You could compromise and choose a protein packed snack that doesn't necessarily have a lot of calories (ie- pepperoni slices or hard boiled eggs). That would be what I'd do. I ate 2 hard boiled eggs this afternoon (around 4pm) and wasn't hungry for 5 hours. I think 2 eggs is roughly 140 calories. Very satisfying. Sometimes for a snack, I have 10 pepperoni slices and a Babybel cheese. Curbs my hunger for a few hours without adding the carbs.
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:23 PM   #3
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I do much better with the additional calories than the additional carbs, both in terms of satiety AND the scale the next day!
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Old 05-19-2012, 03:44 AM   #4
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I don't last long on "diets" where I am hungry a lot. I do better if I can be full. So for me, I would go with a high fat/ protein snack... but you gotta do what works for you.

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Old 05-19-2012, 05:45 AM   #5
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Carbs are the most important in my opinion.
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Old 05-19-2012, 05:47 AM   #6
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For me it would be carbs, but I know everyBODY is different! The carbs would just not keep me full but the calories/fat/protein would!! The carbs would just make me want to eat more!!LOL!
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Old 05-19-2012, 05:55 AM   #7
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It's carbs for me. If you have insulin resistance then the carbs are the problem, not really calories.
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Old 05-19-2012, 06:00 AM   #8
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If you're doing low carb, then it's more important to keep those carbs low, so I'd just eat something low/no carb and not worry about the calories.

If you're doing WW or some other type of plan, then I'd keep the calories low since their diets are designed to work with calorie control.
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Old 05-19-2012, 06:26 AM   #9
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Calories DO count, even on a LC or VLC diet. That said, I do much better snacking on high protein, VLC foods than on low to moderate carb choices. I keep some Tyson grilled chicken breasts (100 cal, 0 carbs) in my freezer to occasionally munch on.
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Old 05-19-2012, 06:48 AM   #10
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I think it depends on a couple of things...first, how much you have to lose.

If you're 100 lbs. overweight, you're going to be able to eat a lot of calories & still lose on the low carb WOE, if you're carefully watching the carbs & keeping under about 30. You'd lose faster with both calorie & carb restriction but calories won't be as big a factor if you're very obese. Now, it IS possible to totally over-eat, even on LC. So portion control is a good thing to learn

But once you're down to your last 20 lbs to lose, then it seems that the calories are going to make a huge difference.
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Old 05-19-2012, 07:11 AM   #11
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I find that the longer I'm on Low carb, the less calories I eat, because I've been eating less and less. But if you're having trouble, definitely focus on the carbs..
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:30 AM   #12
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Dr Atkins said, Calories count, but carbs count more. I would go for more calories, not more carbs. I would also wait about 20 minutes before eating to make sure I was really hungry and not just wanting to eat.
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:47 AM   #13
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Carbs count more.

If you eat low/zero carb you are much, much more likely to satisfy your hunger and stay satisfied for much longer and come out ahead on calorie count.

As a snack to abate hunger, something high fat is best. Just pace yourself a little so you don't zap yourself with a ton of calories.
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Old 05-19-2012, 12:09 PM   #14
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Carbs count more, but calories count, too.

I remember Dr. A. saying that a LC plan allows you eat 200-300 more calories than you would eat on a LF plan and still lose. That was the big "seller" to many people.

Jackie E. (Dr. A's nurse) on the LC cruise mentioned that portion control is important..People can certainly overeat on LC and not lose weight. She seems this problem with men, she said.
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Old 05-19-2012, 12:39 PM   #15
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In the absence of carbs, one of two macronutrients will necessarily increase. In Atkins, that increase is via dietary fat. With the increase of fat, your satiety increases and thus your calories decrease. This is really the concept behind Atkins. Increase the fat, lower the carbs, maintain moderate protein and your calories will decrease accordingly due to the increased satiety from the increased fat.

Really, this isn't an easy question. Calories or carbs...both matter but if I were to focus on one over the other, I would say carbs.
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:49 PM   #16
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Old 05-19-2012, 03:41 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by Jez View Post
Food quality.
This is a good point. I've had great success I think because I've really been avoiding processed foods. So, aside from the occasional protein bar if I'm starving at the gym, I really don't eat anything that's from a box or from the "middle isles" of the store. Now, I certainly don't eat "organic" everything, but at least removing the crap from my diet has done worlds of good. When you're only eating nuts, poultry, fish, veggies, and some pork and beef, it's really hard to accidentally eat the wrong thing :-)
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