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Old 04-13-2012, 11:53 AM   #1
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Pasta recommendations?

So, this is a weird concept for me-- I might get to eat pasta again. (love JUDDD).

My issue, is that it is a trigger for me. I've tried Dreamfields, but I'm one of those people it doesn't work for. I mean, i can eat it, I just want to eat ALL of it.

I'm good with shirataki, b/c it's not really pasta-pasta... so if I have to stick with that, I'm ok.

But do any JUDDD buddds, having come from LC and maybe still sticking to a lower carb way of life, have pasta recommendations?

I just ordered a box of quinoa based pasta, to try it out-- is supposed to be lower glycemic than rice pasta (not that I use that, but my gluten-free mother does).

What about whole wheat?

Or should I give up the notion entirely, maybe anything other than shiritaki is going to be a trigger for me...

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Old 04-13-2012, 12:04 PM   #2
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Pasta isn't really a trigger for me, so I'm no help there. When we go out to the Old Spaghetti Factory, I always order whole wheat pasta, and I think it tastes just as good as "regular." I haven't tried quinoa pasta. I just had quinoa yesterday for the first time and thought it was pretty good.
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:18 PM   #3
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Sorry, no help here either. I have found that I have no real trigger foods any longer. I just enjoy the freedom of being able to eat anything without guilt.

It may be as simple for you as cooking a 'measured' amount and seeing how it goes. Remember you could have pasta every other day for the rest of your life.......... so where's the problem?
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Old 04-13-2012, 02:09 PM   #4
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Sorry, no help here either. I have found that I have no real trigger foods any longer. I just enjoy the freedom of being able to eat anything without guilt.

It may be as simple for you as cooking a 'measured' amount and seeing how it goes. Remember you could have pasta every other day for the rest of your life.......... so where's the problem?
Interesting... I'll have to experiment I guess, but prior to LC, the problem was quantity, and also, setting off further hunger. For me, there's never enough pasta, it seems.

I do like the idea of having it guilt free, and if it fits my calories for the day, it's conceptually ok. Just not sure my body will agree with my brain.
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Old 04-13-2012, 02:14 PM   #5
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I was like that Soren. That is why I grew to be so big on 'low fat, healthy foods' in the 90s.

I would eat twice as much pasta as my DH, who is 6'1". And could have eaten even more... Don't do it if you aren't ready but I think it is very different on JUDDD.
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Old 04-13-2012, 02:28 PM   #6
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I just order a product called Fiber Gourmet and I had some yesterday and it was All different shapes and 130 calories for a 2 oz serving!
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Old 04-13-2012, 02:51 PM   #7
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It's not a binge trigger for me, but I've never found 2oz of pasta (a serving) to be very satisfying lol.
I like Barilla Pasta Plus
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:18 PM   #8
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Good post!

I love dreamfields, and it doesn't trigger cravings in me. I only cook ONE portion size. That seems to help!

I've always been wary of shirataki... ZERO calories?!? What is in it?!? Knowing it's made of whatever that isn't a carb, fat or protein, I don't think I could stomach it. Eat to live, right? I do believe this would fall outside this motto! Lol
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:27 PM   #9
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Perhaps filling partially on a nice big salad before eating the pasta will curb your desire to binge? I am not a huge fan of pasta, so that is all I have to offer.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:38 PM   #10
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I could drown in a vat of pasta right now and be HAPPY ...having said that I have been wheat free for a while now and only have pasta when the family demands it on special occasions--such as tomorrow. My DD#3 asked for lasagna for her b-day dinner so I obliged. Using Dreamfield's *I have for years, no one ever noticed it was different* and I loaded it up with lots of meat and and mozz. cheese and ricotta. I don't anticipate eating more than 2 oz. (pasta) of it. And when we do have it, I never eat more than 2 oz. and if we have leftovers, I either don't eat it or warm slowly in the oven. I once reheated in microwave and my innards sang for a full 24 hours...LOUD and well, you know..

As time goes by, I want it less and less. We also like the Ronzoni Healthy Harvest (noodles in soup-Yum. That stuff rocks) and the Fiber Gourmet stuff is excellent. Got all sorts of compliments on the seafood pasta I made with it at Christmas.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:38 PM   #11
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All very helpful!

Jupiter-- shirataki is actually made of a type of fiber (konnyaku or konjac, which is itself made up of a large percent of a "gum" substance... read more here Konjac - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ), and it's been eaten in Asia way before we (north america) came across it. So it is real food (IMO) but yes, weird that it exists, I'm with you on that.

Beeb and Dottie, I'll check those out, thanks
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One of the local italian restaurants has a salad that's mostly salad(romaine, chicken, tomatoes, olives, cheese, etc) with a little pasta thrown in - maybe 1/2 a cup cooked. It's not much but just enough to hit that pasta tastebud lol
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:07 PM   #13
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Pasta used to be a huge trigger for me. I gave it up completely for 6 months last year. Then, after I'd lost the bulk of my weight I started having brown rice pasta. And it's definitely not a trigger. The only time I have reg. pasta now is if I'm eating out. But honestly, I rarely order it...and I don't really miss it.
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Totally agree about pasta being a trigger! I used to live on pasta, as a teenage vegan living in a house of meat eaters, I had pasta with tomato sauce nearly every night when I got back from school. I always found myself hungry again about 2 hours later.

Haven't eaten pasta for months now, and I can't say I miss it at all. I do use shiritaki occasionally but I prefer them in asian dishes. So if I am making a pasta dish for my boyfriend I will usually have the sauce with vegetables & protein.

My favourite thing to do is cut long strips of courgette (zucchini) and aubergine, and maybe some asparagus, rub with a bit of olive oil and garlic and cook the strips in a griddle pan, and serve them on top of pasta sauce. I never thought I would say this but I much prefer it to a bowl of pasta now!!

Spaghetti squash is really nice too but I can't get hold of it very often in the UK Trying to grow some!!
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Old 04-14-2012, 03:30 AM   #15
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By the way I should also mention that before I started low carbing, I tried lots of different types of low gi pasta & noodles, I found the best to be wholegrain spelt spaghetti, BUT I still couldn't control my portion sizes and would only ever be satisfied with a HUGE bowl of pasta...with garlic bread
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Old 04-14-2012, 08:36 AM   #16
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I would try mixing some whole wheat pasta with some zucchini cut into pasta size strips. This was you wont eat as much pasta but will still get some and get most of the bulk from the zucchini or spaghetti squash. Then add all the wonderful pasta toppings and have a small piece of garlic bread adn see how it effects you. I have always thought anything with carbs would cause triggers for me and did before but i really think that was just because i knew i couldnt have it so if i ate i felt like i needed to eat a ton of it because it was an off limits food. Now i know i can have pasta if i want it so eating it doesnt cause any problems. Nothing does surprisingly. I can eat pie, cake, pasta, rice, bread, whatever and it doesnt cause cravings or trigger me to want to binge. Now i have noticed that i have problems with too much wheat so im watching that but causing triggers, not a problem anymore at all!!!
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:30 AM   #17
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[quote=sorenkkg;15578038]So, this is a weird concept for me-- I might get to eat pasta again. (love JUDDD).



I know I haven't been around the JUDDD forum much lately, but I see in your stats that you are still pretty new to JUDDD. My guess is that you came to JUDDD from a more standard low carb eating plan, but since you can eat carbs in any amount on JUDDD, you want to! And I can't blame you.

And what your soul is reaching for is that pasta. So I will just mention a couple of things here for you to be aware of, which you may already be.

LOTS of us leaped into carbs when we first started this, just because we realized that we now could, and we'd missed some of the carb favorites for so long while doing only low carb. And, as far as JUDDD goes, that's fine, and JUDDD doesn't care... as long as you still respect and stick to your UD and DD calorie numbers. That's the key here.

When we re-introduce carbs in our diet, we also regain lost water weight, and that regained water weight shows up on the scale, so many are afraid JUDDD isn't working for them, when in fact, they are only gaining water weight again, but may indeed be losing body fat at the same time... it just isn't showing up on the scale because it's being overshadowed by the water weight gain. So, if that happens to you when you start eating pasta again, don't panic! It all levels off.

After we've been on JUDDD for awhile, we almost always find that it has somehow moderated our former response to our former trigger foods. We get to the stage when that little *carb addict* who lives inside our brains seems to die away and not goad us anymore. It's not that we don't still find those beloved foods delicious. It's that we can eat a reasonable portion and truly enjoy the heck out of it, and not feel the compulsion to do the glutton thing.

We don't have to finish the baking pan of brownies. We can have more on our next UD. Or maybe not. Maybe we'll have a piece of pie on that day. Well, whatever we want at that time. Because we have all of the rest of our lives to eat brownies, or pie, or... pasta. We don't have to overeat it, because it will always be there. It will never go away. It will never be forbidden to us again. And it's just one delicious food in a whole world of delicious food. And we get to eat any of it we choose, forever.

There is only one rule to it: Respect your calorie numbers! If you do that, you won't overeat. If you respect your numbers, you will become slim during the same weeks and months that you are eating pasta. And if you don't respect your calorie numbers, you may well find yourself in trouble. That's where you don't want to go.

Now, all of this being said, you are still pretty new to JUDDD, and it hasn't had very long to work on you inside.. inside your body and your brain and in the balance of the chemical soup that is your individual makeup. So you may not be to the point where you can eat pasta and not be triggered to overeat it. I strongly recommend you weigh out on a food scale the correct ounces of dry pasta that is a single serving, or two servings if you are going to eat that much of it, and add those calories into your food log, and feed yourself only that portion of it. Don't just serve yourself from the pot or bowl, free-style!

As you go along, you learn some wonderful control, and that is part of what enables you to eat very, very well of anything you choose forever. It's a lot of fun! We just have to follow the JUDDD rules and not blow it!

Enjoy your pasta.
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:50 AM   #18
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Thank you Pat, and everyone who has contributed here.

I like to think things out (yes, I might be overthinking...such is my way) before I do stuff. I come up with a plan, and stick to the plan.

So, right now, I'm *thinking* about pasta. I haven't launched into it, b/c of most of the reasons Pat outlines above-- I'm new to JUDDD, I don't want to gain water weight just yet, and I'm not sure I can deal with the carbs yet.

So, instead of having some, I'm thinking about having some.

Lots of good points to consider, and some new varieties to try.

I'm also a pretty good cook, so I might try making my own whole wheat (or other grain)-- I have a pasta roller, a ravioli tray, and some recipes I've hung on to for over 8 years (I got the pasta stuff just before I started LC, )

I also have Mastercook, so I can figure out the calories in any homemade recipes, etc.

Thanks again everyone for helping with this mental exercise-- your advice and consideration is HUGELY appreciated !

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