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Old 01-30-2012, 09:25 PM   #1
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Anyone Losing on 650 Calorie DD's?

Hi, Everyone. Today was my last induction DD of 500 calories. The calculator puts me at 650 for DD's. Is anyone else eating at that level and losing weight? I've got a lot to lose and today it hit me that although I've been really excited about what's happened so far, I have a long way to go with this.
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Old 01-31-2012, 04:12 AM   #2
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I have certainly had a few dds that went that high. I lost on them.

Over time you will certainly find yourself tuning dds. I suggest you consider 650 your upper limit and eat to hunger and feeling good within that.
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Old 01-31-2012, 04:36 AM   #3
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I am supposed to be maintaining but after an UD, a MD and a DD yesterday of 650 I weighed in at 122.8 today. The scales actually dropped after each of those days.

We all do our best and if you see losses then you are doing something right. I also believe that if you have a greater percentage of body weight to lose you can sometimes eat at higher DD levels.

The truth is, each of us is different. Give it a try if you feel it will help you stick to the plan. If you lose you are the winner, if not, well, at least you know.
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Old 01-31-2012, 07:56 AM   #4
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I aim for fewer than 500 but allow up to 700 for particularly "hungry" DDs. The JUDDD calculators put me at 470 for 20% and 800 for 35%, so those are my low and high DD ranges.

At my weight and with my broken metabolism (IR, PCOS, pre-Diabetic), I lose slowly no matter what, but at least I'm LOSING!
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Old 01-31-2012, 08:48 AM   #5
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In Dr. Johnson's book he has an entire list of DD menus and they are all in the 600 calorie area. I say go for it. My DDs are always between 600-700 and I am losing.
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Old 01-31-2012, 09:20 AM   #6
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I started at 700 and still do 700 DD calories. I lost fine and now maintain by doing 700/750 DDs and no counting UDs and STILL doing fine.

I say give it a try and see what happens. You can always go back down again if you find it's not working for you.

After all, it's all about WHAT WILL WORK FOR YOU!!
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Old 01-31-2012, 02:54 PM   #7
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Thanks so much, everyone for setting my mind at ease. My study of the boards hadn't revealed anyone mentioning DDs any higher than 500 calories, which is NOT something I want to continue. Others have posted that over time that becomes easier, and I did find it easier at the end of induction than I did at the beginning, but... not THAT much easier. I had noticed that the stats under Beeb's avator list 700 calorie DDs, but didn't realize that she had done that during the weight loss phase of things. Thanks for clarifying that for me, Beeb!
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Old 01-31-2012, 02:58 PM   #8
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Hi Fleur, I had DDs mostly 500 - 750 in WLM until maintenance. Now I sometimes go up to 850.
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:03 PM   #9
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I use 600 as my DD number - and have from the beginning. Sometimes I am below that, but certainly not the majority of the time!

I think you will be just fine.
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:05 PM   #10
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DH did 500 for the first 2 weeks and now does around 800, but he has a LOT to lose and that's right around 20% for him.
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Old 01-31-2012, 05:00 PM   #11
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I stated out doing 600 to 700 but now I'm not really hungry so I end up about 300. I'll go over if I need to though.
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Old 02-01-2012, 01:16 PM   #12
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Thanks, everyone, good to know I'm not alone with this WOE First DD post induction is going great!
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Old 06-16-2017, 05:08 AM   #13
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Old 06-16-2017, 08:16 AM   #14
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I think this is one of those YMMV kind of things. Probably depends a great deal on age, weight, height and gender. If you are quite young, quite tall, quite heavy and/or male the higher DDs might not be an issue. For those of us that are older, shorter, lighter and/ or female- well, you can give it a try, but my experience is that I don't lose if my DDs go over 300 on a regular basis.

Obviously, it's worth giving it a go if you wish, but the other thing to consider is that higher DDs (on a regular basis) may jeopardize some/ all the health benefits associated with JUDDD that come from the alternate day "fasting".
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Old 06-16-2017, 11:57 AM   #15
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Thanks Ahna, good info. I believe one has to listen to one's own body also. Truthfully, I've worried about phoenix when sometimes she feels light-headed in her meetings. IMHO, her body is trying to tell her something just like our bods will do so also.

Carly has a good point in will higher DDs jeopardize health benefits of JUDDD? Again listen to one's own body. It could be one may have a higher DD level, but activities are burning more calories meaning there basically is no difference.
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Old 06-18-2017, 07:22 PM   #16
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there is nothing magical about the 500 calorie DDs. it is about creating deficits. for example, i accurately log my calories every day, and find that my weight loss directly correlates with what i've put into it: a 3500 calorie deficit over time will give me a pound loss.

according to the JUDDD calculator, the heavier you are, the higher your DD allotment will be. the lighter you are, it will give you a lower allotment.

if the calculator told me to eat 700 calories on a DD, i'd eat it. this is not a quick losing program for most of us, so undereating what the calculator tells you to eat may be discouraging before it's over. i tend to go no lower than 500 calories no matter what the calculator tells me.
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there is nothing magical about the 500 calorie DDs. it is about creating deficits.
I partially agree and partially disagree. Again, it may be YMMV type of thing, but it seems there are really some health benefits associated with fasting and for those health benefits to manifest themselves intake needs to be kept as low as manageable. Dr. Johnson does say that zero calories DDs are ideal, but agrees that most of use would not want to do that every other day for prolonged periods of time.

The science on fasting is very new and I personally think 500 is probably too high to get some of the fasting benefits, but it probably is an individual things.

I agree that the weight loss, at least on JUDDD, but probably for all means of weight loss, comes from the calorie deficit over time.

As humans we have water weight shifts and other bodily issues, so we don't always see a loss at exactly xxx calorie deficit, but yes, we need a deficit to lose weight.
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Old 06-19-2017, 10:40 AM   #18
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I don't think you folks are taking into considerion our BMR level when deciding a deficit from 3500 calories gives us weight loss.

I hadn't looked at this myself for years, but have been aware of BMR during my JUDDD weight loss so to double check I Searched "How many calories a day just to live?"

Came up with calculator.net. My BMR = 1,110 Calories/day/

"Reference

The Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) is the amount of energy you need while resting in a temperate environment during the post-absorptive state, or when your digestive system is inactive. In such a state, your energy will be used only to maintain your vital organs, which include the heart, lungs, kidneys, the nervous system, intestines, liver, lungs, sex organs, muscles, and skin. The BMR decreases with age and increases with muscle mass.

The BMR is measured under very restrictive circumstances while awake. An accurate BMR measurement requires that a person's sympathetic nervous system is inactive, which means the person must be completely rested. Basal metabolism is usually the largest component of a person's total caloric needs. The daily calorie needs is the BMR value multiplied by a factor with a value between 1.2 and 1.9, depending on the activity level.

In most situations, the BMR is estimated with equations summarized from statistical data. The most commonly used one is the Mifflin - St Jeor equation:
BMR = 10 * weight(kg) + 6.25 * height(cm) - 5 * age(y) + 5 (man)
BMR = 10 * weight(kg) + 6.25 * height(cm) - 5 * age(y) - 161 (woman) "
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