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Old 11-17-2014, 06:20 AM   #1
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heartburn?

I have been suffering with some pretty bad heartburn for the last two weeks. It is not something I usually deal with so I am wondering if it might be diet related. I am not eating anything too different than what I have been eating for the last 6 months on this WOE.

Any ideas? Zantac helps but I hate to take meds every day for this.
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Old 11-17-2014, 11:29 AM   #2
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Hmm that's odd. I can't think of why it would start if nothing else has changed. Could it be something besides heartburn? You may want to go see your doctor just to be safe.

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Old 11-17-2014, 11:32 AM   #3
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Zantac does make it go away, so I am almost 100% sure it is heartburn. I no longer have a gall bladder, so I know that is not the reason. It is painful in the same place my gall bladder was though, which was my middle back right by my lower shoulder blades.
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Old 11-17-2014, 12:59 PM   #4
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NK is a very healing WOE and taking any antacids take away from that healing:/ I suffered for a little while as well...you need to realize that heartburn and gerd are signs of low stomach acid...taking 1 TBS of Apple cider vinegar a day in water will build up your stomach acid and heal your heartburn. Taking Zantac will only keep your stomach from healing.
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Old 11-17-2014, 03:38 PM   #5
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You might also try some digestive enzymes. You can get them where other supplements are sold. But pain from other areas of the body can radiate there, so if it persists, it might be a good idea to see a doctor.
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Old 11-17-2014, 06:41 PM   #6
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Digestive enzymes are still a bandaid fix...it won't repair and heal the low stomach acid...only Apple cider vinegar or bile salts can do that and ACV is a little safer than bile salts
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Old 11-18-2014, 06:37 AM   #7
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My heartburn comes from a hiatal hernia - and is alleviated by specific exercises (very easy ones!). Could this be your situation?
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Old 11-18-2014, 11:36 AM   #8
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Old 11-19-2014, 10:40 AM   #9
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Drwho, enlighten me please! I take ACV every morning on an empty stomach. But, I still have low digestive acid. Is there a better way to take it? I read that taking digestives enzymes is like giving your pancreas the day off.

There is a simple test you can do to see what your acid levels are.

Acid Test

Do a simple acid test at home. This test is an economical way for you to ascertain if you have too much or too little acid in your stomach. Do this test first thing in the morning before eating or drinking anything else.

Method: Mix a quarter teaspoon of fresh Bicarbonate of Soda into a small glass of warm water. Swallow the contents of the glass and relax for a few minutes (Note that this test is effective only if done on an empty stomach first thing in the morning).

Home Test results: If you belch dramatically and within one minute of swallowing this mixture, it is likely you have too much acid. If it takes two to three minutes to belch, your levels of acid are probably normal. If it takes longer than five or six minutes to belch, it is very likely that you have lower than normal levels of stomach acid.
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Old 11-19-2014, 11:35 AM   #10
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Drwho, enlighten me please! I take ACV every morning on an empty stomach. But, I still have low digestive acid. Is there a better way to take it? I read that taking digestives enzymes is like giving your pancreas the day off.

There is a simple test you can do to see what your acid levels are.

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Do a simple acid test at home. This test is an economical way for you to ascertain if you have too much or too little acid in your stomach. Do this test first thing in the morning before eating or drinking anything else.

Method: Mix a quarter teaspoon of fresh Bicarbonate of Soda into a small glass of warm water. Swallow the contents of the glass and relax for a few minutes (Note that this test is effective only if done on an empty stomach first thing in the morning).

Home Test results: If you belch dramatically and within one minute of swallowing this mixture, it is likely you have too much acid. If it takes two to three minutes to belch, your levels of acid are probably normal. If it takes longer than five or six minutes to belch, it is very likely that you have lower than normal levels of stomach acid.
I totally have to try this soon. Probably on the weekend, so I can take my time about it. I'm curious about what result I will get.
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Old 11-20-2014, 06:09 AM   #11
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So I tried the test this morning and no belch at all! My baking soda wasn't very new so I am going to pick up a new box and try again. I could feel some pressure but never burped at all. Maybe there is something to this.
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Old 11-20-2014, 10:04 AM   #12
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Yep, took me ten minutes. Still hoping DrWho will tell us more about the ACV. I know the Bragg's suggest one teaspoon three times a day. Being me, I do one tablespoon in the morning. I wonder if you take it before you eat, like a digestive enzyme.
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Old 11-20-2014, 03:09 PM   #13
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You need to take 1 tablespoon in water right before meals...and if you stomach acid is really low it may take a few weeks to bring the acid up...hope that helps
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Old 11-21-2014, 06:27 AM   #14
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Second test with fresh baking soda- no belch at all! Apparently I have no stomach acid to speak of. Bought some ACV and am starting today. I am hopeful this will make a difference, even if it takes a while. I'm going to start with a tsp before each meal in some water and then hopefully build up from there. I don't mind the taste too much. I just have to remember to drink it, which when you are a teacher and get all of 22 minutes for lunch is a challenge!

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Old 11-21-2014, 10:34 AM   #15
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Thanks DrWho! It does. I have been taking a digestive enzyme so, I'll switch it up a bit. Frteach, I don't mind the taste at all. But then I am putting it in water with some arginine. I don't think it'll be too hard to shoot it though.
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Old 11-21-2014, 04:38 PM   #16
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Digestive enzymes are still a bandaid fix...it won't repair and heal the low stomach acid...only Apple cider vinegar or bile salts can do that and ACV is a little safer than bile salts
I tried the apple cider vinegar because I have been having some heartburn lately. I had no idea why it would suddenly start. Also my stomach has been growling a lot even after eating. The apple cider vinegar works like a dream. Thanks for the info.
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:02 PM   #17
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I also experienced heartburn for a few nights during my first week on Keto.(also have no gall bladder, if that's relevant) It gave me a fright but settled with some Zantac. I'm thinking it was something to do with the fat intake.
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Old 11-21-2014, 08:43 PM   #18
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There is a lot of info out there for people with no gallbladder doing this WOE and not having any negative effects...I would ck out Jimmy Moores livin la vida low carb website...I think he had a podcast about that...you might have to do a search glad so many of you have found relief with the ACV....I use to take 1 tablespoon in about 2 ounces in water with a bit of stevia right before meals...now that I have healed my stomach acid I only take 1 tablespoon once a day in the morning
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Old 11-22-2014, 03:07 PM   #19
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LC is good in this area since carbohydrates fuel heart burn.

My daily heartburn disappeared after few days on this diet. Haven't had a single episode in the past year.
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Old 11-23-2014, 05:52 AM   #20
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I wonder if the water I sip all day is a factor in this. Could it be diluting my stomach acid too much? I know drinking water is good and I am not going to stop. Just trying to figure out why this has started after almost 9 months of LC.
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LC is good in this area since carbohydrates fuel heart burn.

My daily heartburn disappeared after few days on this diet. Haven't had a single episode in the past year.
I have been eating this way almost 2 years with no heartburn, but I had some heartburn a couple of weeks ago and I could not figure out why. My diet has not changed. The vinegar in water fixed it.
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Old 11-24-2014, 05:40 AM   #22
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I use to suffer terribly from heartburn. I was buying the multi packs of tums from costco. Not to mention the extra strength zantac I was taking.

When I went low carb, it got better but I still had it. It wasn't until I toughed it out for a couple of weeks with no o.t.c. meds before it finally went away. I do believe it was a case of low stomach acid being kept low due to the meds.

Message is - don't take otc meds.
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Tried the vinegar. Don't drink it straight. Lesson learned. I started with a diluted version this morning.
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Yes please do not take it straight...it will harm your teeth...I dilute in a small amount of water with a few drops of stevia and chug it..then rinse mouth after
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Yes please do not take it straight...it will harm your teeth...I dilute in a small amount of water with a few drops of stevia and chug it..then rinse mouth after
Oh, now you tell me! It actually was my throat. But I get what you're saying about the acidity. Thanks again for the info!!
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I use to suffer terribly from heartburn. I was buying the multi packs of tums from costco. Not to mention the extra strength zantac I was taking.

When I went low carb, it got better but I still had it. It wasn't until I toughed it out for a couple of weeks with no o.t.c. meds before it finally went away. I do believe it was a case of low stomach acid being kept low due to the meds.

Message is - don't take otc meds.
I agree, not to mention that those meds can cause kidney stones.
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I take NOW super enzymes before meals. They includes enzymes, and bile salts. Is there a reason why I shouldn't be taking these?

I read in the "paleo solution" that people without gall bladders are not fully digesting their food and therefore not receiving all of the nutrition. The above is recommended to improve digestion.
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Bile salts are good short term but once you have built up your stomach acid there is not a need for it...I use to do enzymes but, it was not addressing my stomach acid issue and was only helpful in the beginning.
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