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#61 | |
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You can learn alot from a glucose meter, I know I did and just remember everyone is different and will react differently to different foods. Keep an open mind and good luck! |
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#62 |
Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 155
Gallery: AshleyDillo
Stats: 361/161/162.4/150 (highest/lowest/current/goal)
WOE: LCHF
Start Date: RnY 7/7/2009 (@320 lbs) LCHF 7/12/2014 (@220 lbs)
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My father is my keto partner-in-crime. After seeing my success in such a short amount of time, he was convinced to give it a try. He has been watching his carbs and not shying away from the fat. He says he is still hungry all the time and misses bread. But today he went for a doctor's checkup and the only thing that showed up of any concern in was ketones. He isn't diabetic, so it wasn't an issue. He has lost about 10 pounds in a month and a half and his doctor cut off one of his blood pressure meds. In fact, his blood pressure was registering kinda low (102/54!). Everything else in bloodwork was perfect. My dad is 72 years old and I think this finally made him believe in the science behind eating like this!
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#63 |
Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Boca Raton, FL
Posts: 209
Gallery: phurst_gal
Stats: 235 / 207 / 150
WOE: NK
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I have a question for you all ...
How much protein is too little? Some info: I'm 5 4", 59 yo, sedentary. Current weight is 222, but would like to be 145. I had been aiming for 75 grams of protein a day, but in order to keep to keep my macros in line, that means 125 grams of fat. I'm eating within a 6 hour window. Lunch around 1 PM, dinner around 6. My problem ... it's just too much food! I generally get about 55 grams of protein a day. Do you all think that's ok? Fran |
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#64 |
Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 155
Gallery: AshleyDillo
Stats: 361/161/162.4/150 (highest/lowest/current/goal)
WOE: LCHF
Start Date: RnY 7/7/2009 (@320 lbs) LCHF 7/12/2014 (@220 lbs)
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I am of the opinion that the grams are the only thing that matters, not a percentage when it comes to the macros. Use your carb macro as a ceiling, your fat macro as a ceiling, and aim hit your protein target.
If you don't get enough protein to support your lean body mass (your muscles, organs, bones, everything that isn't excess fat) your body will break down your muscles. I used the ankerl keto calculator and it calculated your lean body mass at 114 lbs. I use 0.8g of protein per lb of lean body mass for sedentary calculations and that is 91g of protein. The keto diet was originally not designed for weight loss..it was for the health purposes of eating high fat (seizures, etc). While you will excrete the excess ketones that your body makes from eating more fat than your body will use, weight loss is achieved when the fat is lower because your body, in the absence of carbs, will use your body fat stores to create these ketones for energy. So, if you can bump your protein up to not lose lean body mass and only add fats to feel full and satisfied by what you eat, if you can cut your carbs as close to zero as possible, you should maximize your fat loss. |
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#65 |
Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Boca Raton, FL
Posts: 209
Gallery: phurst_gal
Stats: 235 / 207 / 150
WOE: NK
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![]() Thank you! Great info. I looked at the Keto calculator one time, and I couldn't figure out what it was trying to tell me. Or ... maybe I just didn't believe it. Fran |
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#66 | |
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#67 |
Major LCF Poster!
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 2,778
Gallery: grneyedldy
Stats: 180/134/120
WOE: NK
Start Date: 9/2/2013
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TGIF NKers. It's going to be an interesting few days for me. I'm babysitting my granddaughters (3 & 7) for 6 days while their parents are at an out of town wedding. Finding meals to please all is already frustrating and we are only on day 2.
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#68 |
Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 227
Gallery: frteach
WOE: Low Carb
Start Date: Jan 2014
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Ugh! Last night had the dreaded hole. You know the one. You've eaten dinner and are full and yet there is still this hole in your stomach that just needs to be filled. Finally caved and ate some peanut butter. I hate that hole! Scale didn't punish me, but it should have. I am in my can't lose weeks right now anyway, where I pretty much bounce up and down with the same pound over and over, never reaching a new low but never getting too high either. Frustrating but that is my pattern and I have to learn to accept it.
I think I am done rambling now. It's one of those mornings too. Woke up grumpy and of course a sweet, well intentioned student brought me a chocolate scone that is sitting on my desk taunting me! |
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#69 |
Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 646
Gallery: AnnetteW
Stats: 182/166/138 (5'5", 54 yrs)
WOE: keto
Start Date: 11/20/2017
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Downloaded "Keto Clarity" last night and started reading. Day 4 of getting back on track and getting carbs out. I still feel fine so I know that lo-carb flu hasn't hit yet. Only carbs in the past few days, other than veggies, has been a small serving of almonds each day. I'd prefer to not have to drop them, they are an easy snack and my body likes them for regularity and such.
I did get brave and read through my journal, and now I'm slapping myself silly.
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#70 |
Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Tyrone Georgia U.S.A.
Posts: 569
Gallery: E.W.
Stats: 312/310/ a lot less
WOE: Low Carb
Start Date: restart again 10/27/2014
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Anyone here have sleep apnia. I saw a web sight that clamed it ofton got beter when
you were on a low carb diet not because you lost weight but just because you didn't eat carbs. Anyone notice any difference before you lost weight. By the way this is a yes or no question. |
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#71 |
Major LCF Poster!
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 2,778
Gallery: grneyedldy
Stats: 180/134/120
WOE: NK
Start Date: 9/2/2013
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#72 |
Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Tyrone Georgia U.S.A.
Posts: 569
Gallery: E.W.
Stats: 312/310/ a lot less
WOE: Low Carb
Start Date: restart again 10/27/2014
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Oh I use a cpap etc. But the ketogenic diet has other applications besides weight loss noticeably in the treatment of epilepsy. So I was wondering if it made any impact on sleep apnia just by itself not from any resulting weight loss.
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#73 |
Junior LCF Member
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Hi Everyone,
Newbie here. About 10 weeks into LCHF. Doing great so far. Would like to know whether people count calories whilst doing LCHF? or whether one should just eat whenever they are hungry even if it means going pass their TDEE? Thanks |
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#74 |
Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 646
Gallery: AnnetteW
Stats: 182/166/138 (5'5", 54 yrs)
WOE: keto
Start Date: 11/20/2017
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Found a few ketone strips I still had and decided to try one this afternoon. I'm happy to report a 1.1 on the meter, I didn't quite know what to expect. It's not a lot, but it's something for Day 5. Yea, yea...I know it's probably all dietary fat burning at this time, but it's still there.
I'm now already contemplating the Ketonix meter.
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#75 |
Major LCF Poster!
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,893
Gallery: Janknitz
Stats: 254/184/150
WOE: Low Carb High Fat, Primal
Start Date: June 16, 2011
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I use CPAP, and no, ketogenic diet did not get me off CPAP. It has made my health immensely better, but it will not cure the narrow airway and receded jaw I was born with.
SOME people are able to get off CPAP when losing weight but there are no guarantees. Using CPAP has certainly made my weight loss easier. When your body is bathed in stress hormones all night from lack of oxygen, cortisol, leptin, ghrelin, and insulin will work against your weight loss attempts. Bottom line: keep using your CPAP. |
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#76 |
Chatty Cathy
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 14,146
Gallery: clackley
WOE: N.K.=vlc/moderate protein/high fat
Start Date: Restart Oct 18 2009
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Annette, good to 'see' you!
![]() Still struggling with weight gain. It is very frustrating. I am beginning to think it may be a case of intolerance to nuts and if not that, dairy. I am eliminating the nuts entirely. I have also been suffering with a cranky hip. I am thinking that if the weight recedes and the hip gets better with the elimination, I will have my answer. Really hoping I don't have to go down the dairy elimination road.... Hope everyone has a wonderful keto day full of energy, clarity of mind, and wonderful food to eat!!!
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Cathy Original start - Feb. 2000 180/125 "The energy content of food (calories) matters, but it is less important than the metabolic effect of food on our body." Dr. P. Attia “Eat animals. Mostly fat. Enjoy! "I resist insulin" Hyperlipid We are butter together! |
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#77 |
Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Dorset, uk
Posts: 176
Gallery: Mufflana
Stats: 325/210/160
WOE: Lchf/NK/EF and FF
Start Date: October 2014 (previously Atkins 72)
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Hi, newish here too but enjoying this woe. Has taken years but am down from over 300 lbs to 210, lost and felt best on lc but then relapsed and put about 20ls back on in a flash.....soo, back and at it! Keeping fats high and protein around 20% intake, feeling good but, despite the fats, constipated!!!! Sorry if TMI but would appreciate any tips anyone has, II drink loads of water and herb teas so don't think that's delaying things!!!
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#78 |
Chatty Cathy
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 14,146
Gallery: clackley
WOE: N.K.=vlc/moderate protein/high fat
Start Date: Restart Oct 18 2009
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Have you tried coconut oil or magnesium and lastly, glucomannen powder (or shiratki noodles)?
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Cathy Original start - Feb. 2000 180/125 "The energy content of food (calories) matters, but it is less important than the metabolic effect of food on our body." Dr. P. Attia “Eat animals. Mostly fat. Enjoy! "I resist insulin" Hyperlipid We are butter together! |
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#79 |
Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 227
Gallery: frteach
WOE: Low Carb
Start Date: Jan 2014
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Hi all!
After a crazy day yesterday where I had little time to eat so I gorged on dinner (steak and asparagus), I ended up having almost a fast day today. I just wasn't hungry so I ate some slices of ham for lunch and a little spaghetti squash for dinner. My calorie count came out at about 500 for the day. I'm curious to see if this effects the scale at all. I've never really eaten so little while on this woe. |
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#80 |
Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 297
Gallery: Rosebud5t
Stats: 188.6/166.6/145
WOE: VLC/Keto
Start Date: Restart 11/2/2017
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Hi everyone!
I lost 3.4 lbs this week, so I'm happy with that. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what foods and combos are working for me or not. I had made a big batch of bulletproof ice cream a couple of weeks ago and it should be 100% keto, but I gain weight after I eat it. Maybe because I used xylitol? I also gain after the days I have bulletproof hot chocolate in the morning. These make me wonder if it's because the calories are so much higher on those days even though all the experts say calories don't matter if macros are right. Hmmm. ![]() My other win for the week was going out to eat twice, including an epic brunch buffet today.... And staying 100% on track both times! ![]() Mufflana ~ I agree with clackley. I've noticed a lot less constipation since adding more magnesium. I use the Natural Calm drink at night and still take two tablets each morning. Getting enough of the healthy fats (coconut oil, MCT Oil, grass fed butter) should help also. I hope everyone had a great weekend!!!
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#81 | |
Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Boca Raton, FL
Posts: 209
Gallery: phurst_gal
Stats: 235 / 207 / 150
WOE: NK
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![]() I'm just in my third week, so hopefully others will also chime in on your question. I think the trick is being able to tell if you are really experiencing hunger. At least for me, that is the case. I don't really count calories, I track macros, but really, it works out to the same thing. For me, I limit my eating to 6 hours a day about noon to 6 pm. But, that is just me! I eat nothing after dinner, because I would eat and eat and eat, whether I was hungry or not. However, I've found that I'm never "hungry". So exceeding macros or calories isn't really an issue for me. Fran |
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#83 |
Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 227
Gallery: frteach
WOE: Low Carb
Start Date: Jan 2014
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UGH! so apparently fasting is not something my body enjoys. I am up 2 pounds today for no apparent reason. It's probably water but still how do you eat very little in a day and gain 2 pounds? I didn't even eat 2 pounds worth of food!
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#84 |
Junior LCF Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Arizona
Posts: 2
Gallery: Swat70
Stats: 220/207/170
WOE: high fat, moderate protein, low carb
Start Date: 10/28/14
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Hi- question for experienced people...
so....I was doing really well. I was in ketosis and eating alot of fat, actually feeling satisfied and not tempted to stray for the first time in my life! I made it past halloween and my kids still have candy laying around which I am so surprised I have not once had to struggle with wanting to eat it. Last night DH ordered pizza for the kids and a salad for me. I got home from work and put the blue cheese dressing on from the restaurant (...many of you probably already know where this is going). I wake up and no ketones at all, check the label and HFCS- ugh
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#85 |
Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Robles Junction/Three Points AZ
Posts: 834
Gallery: kay9
Stats: 432/180/200
WOE: Atkins (DANDR 2002)
Start Date: August 27th 2013
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My last off plan meal was this past NYE (went all out) and did not suffer any symptoms the next day and have been on plan since. Took about a week to recover scale wise.
EDIT: oops realized that this the NK sub-forum.
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#86 | |
Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 155
Gallery: AshleyDillo
Stats: 361/161/162.4/150 (highest/lowest/current/goal)
WOE: LCHF
Start Date: RnY 7/7/2009 (@320 lbs) LCHF 7/12/2014 (@220 lbs)
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#87 |
Chatty Cathy
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 14,146
Gallery: clackley
WOE: N.K.=vlc/moderate protein/high fat
Start Date: Restart Oct 18 2009
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I think the answer to the question about reactions to higher. Arbs is that it is highly variable.
I do think there are 2 things at play that make the difference. One is where you started from in terms of your individual metabolism and how long you have been eating on plan. If you are young with less than 20 or 30lbs. to lose, you probably have more 'flexibility' and will suffer less with occasional off plan foods. If you have a history of weight problems and chronic 'dieting', you will likely have stronger reactions. I think this is an indication of carb tolerances. I also think that long term compliance to a ketogenic diet brings about better tolerance - to a certain degree. Just my opinion....
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Cathy Original start - Feb. 2000 180/125 "The energy content of food (calories) matters, but it is less important than the metabolic effect of food on our body." Dr. P. Attia “Eat animals. Mostly fat. Enjoy! "I resist insulin" Hyperlipid We are butter together! |
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#88 |
Junior LCF Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Central Indiana
Posts: 33
Gallery: tweedamay
Stats: 301/284/145
WOE: Keto
Start Date: August 2014
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Some of you have commented about gaining weight based on 1 meal or 1 day of eating, but I don't think that's accurate. Your weight naturally fluctuates from day to day and I don't think you do yourself any favor by weighing more that once per week. JMO
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#89 | |
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i started off well. good weight loss, sugar & cholesterol control etc. thought i got lots of info off the Net. obviously not enough... i too did not feel hungry. dropped to 2 meals a day. occasionally, less than 1000cals consumed. when i started showing ketone levels of 5, which i thought was "starvation ketosis",it got me worried & i started to eat more/count calories and i screwed up as i went back to 3 meals a day and began to get hunger pangs. although i remain in ketosis, weight loss has shuddered to a halt in the last 4 weeks. all because i started counting calories. ![]() i am back to "eat when hungry", got more in depth info off the Net and finally read Keto Clarity..also about 1/3 through Drs.Phinney/Volek's book. this time, i am going to rejoice if my ketones hit 5 again. ![]() Mo |
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#90 | |
Senior LCF Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Boca Raton, FL
Posts: 209
Gallery: phurst_gal
Stats: 235 / 207 / 150
WOE: NK
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My ketones (via blood meter) usually range at 1.5-2 in the morning and over 5 in the evening. I never worry about starvation. I figure my body could pretty much feed off itself for a good long while ![]() Fran |
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