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Old 10-01-2017, 04:15 AM   #1
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October Daily Chat

Here we go - the swap shop for news, views, events, and other things JBs want to know.

We're in the run-up to the season of festivities, merry-making, and what-not Lovely as that is, and it gives us many things to report, it also has other sides that we can need to discuss
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Old 10-01-2017, 09:02 AM   #2
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Just to say that my MIL is progressing fabulously well. She's fully ambulatory, without any walking aids and positively has to be reminded not to bend or do any of the other things that are restricted for her at present!

I hope that I recover from things so well when I'm her age - it's inspirational to see her.
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Slow- so glad your MIL is doing well so far. I actually think women of the 80-95 year old range are quite tenacious and resilient overall. My paternal grandmother lived to age 92 and was never in the hospital (other than childbirth) until the last 3 months of her life. My maternal grandmother, aside from being blind from low-pressure glaucoma, is doing quite well at age 93.

They were/are both first generation American, who lived through the Great Depression and saw the effects of the Holocaust on many they knew. I know those specifics are different for your MIL, but I still have a lot of admiration for those older women
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Old 10-01-2017, 10:00 AM   #4
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Oh dear, the nights are drawing in. I love the long evenings of summer. But I love Autumn with all the glorious colours too.

Delighted that you MIL is getting on so well Slow.
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Cindy- it is getting darker much earlier. I really hate that. I love the long days of summer.

My office building has the heat on today
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Hello all - feels quiet around here.

Had a really nice weekend with DH. Saturday we went out for very late lunch and then to see a scary movie. Yesterday we took the dogs for a long walk (which was a reminder that I need more exercise and sunshine), then went to pick up DS at my mom's. This is DH's last week at home before he starts at the new job.

Still not back on JUDDD, but not overdoing it either. Sigh.
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Hello,
I am not new to either LC Friends or the JUDD plan but I am new to the LC friends JUDD board. What a fantastic group of people I have been stalking. I decided to wait until October to start posting but I have been very successful sticking with JUDD since Aug 16. I really like the science behind it and it makes sense. I need that. My DH started about a week ago as well. He has been at an unhealthy weight for him which is causing medical issues and JUDD (which he calls eating and not eating days) is actually doable for him. I'll keep you posted on his progress. So far he has lost I think 10 pounds in a week which is great for him. I have lost 13 so far in about 6 weeks. I am aggressively going for 2 pounds a week this month. I may be aiming too high, but I think I can do that with a really clean month.

Nice to meet you all and I will do my best to check in daily. I will be weighing daily so I will post on that board as well.
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Back again!!! I have tried several other plans but I can't manage to stick to it for long enough to make a difference. So I think I am ready to stick with JUDDD again.
Hubby had open heart surgery March 16 and I have him on a LCHF diet which has worked wonders for him. He has trimmed down to being really lean in 6 months AND he seems happy with no bread or beer. So I am going to follow along now that summer is over and Blue Bell ice cream will not be calling my name every time I go to work.
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We're in the run-up to the season of festivities, merry-making, and what-not Lovely as that is, and it gives us many things to report, it also has other sides that we can need to discuss
Slow - Yes, I noticed mince pies in the shop a couple of days ago! Glad your MIL is doing well slow

Carly - funnily enough I was chatting with someone yesterday about the resilience of that older generation - my mum is nearly 82 and my dad was 85 yesterday - both slowing down a little but still pretty active, dad still goes out everyday and walks 2 or 3 miles and when mum phoned earlier today dad was out getting wood in for the fire (which he has chopped up himself!).

Cindy - Yes, certainly nights are drawing in - our curtains were drawn and candles on the table lit for our UD dinner at 7pm this evening.

Bluebelle - sounds like you had a lovely weekend (apart from the scary movie!).

Jeni - Welcome aboard! Sounds like you are doing great. My DH also does JUDDD and does well on it, I think it just becomes a way of life after a while

adillenal - hello, always good to see JUDDD BUDS returning Sounds like your husband is doing really well on LCHF. Good luck with your JUDDDing
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Adi! As Evie writes, it is, indeed, always delightful when a JB's life permits a return to our virtual campfire. Well done to your DH for his recovery. How are your goats? Still popular amongst soap aficionados and connoisseurs of cajeta?

Jeni - it's heartening to know that this schedule suits your DH as it's always helpful if it's something that has wider support within the family, for meal planning reasons if nothing else It's encouraging to see that you're both making good progress with JUDDD.

Bluebelle - sometimes, it's good that we're holding station when life is as stressful as yours has been lately. You're not making things worse - and, we're looking for lives that we enjoy, not the one that we can scarcely tolerate and that only through firmly-gritted teeth.

I could not be more pleased with my MIL's progress. She feels so well she's having to be discouraged from too much activity - it's hard to believe it's not quite 2 weeks since she had the kidney removed.
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Hello ladies, (which reminds me, where are you Frosty?).

It is so good to see old and new faces here following JUDDD. We regulars plod on doing our best, sometimes succeeding, sometimes failing, but always trying and always finding succour here.

I love that so many of our husbands are also thriving on this or similar lifestyles. I mix up JUDDD with LCHF/Pioppi/fasting. I always pop in here though, as no one ever judges, everyone is simply helpful.

It is very good to see more and more news about the advantages of short fasts.


I have had a few celebratory days over the past week when I have eaten foods (bread!) that I know will see me put on a few pounds, but I am not out of control, simply making different choices.

All will be well.
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I am not new to either LC Friends or the JUDD plan but I am new to the LC friends JUDD board. What a fantastic group of people I have been stalking. I decided to wait until October to start posting but I have been very successful sticking with JUDD since Aug 16.
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Adi! So nice to see you back!

Bluebelle- I'll bet things seem more "normal" once DH starts the new job.

Where is Vlo? Did she move yet?

I got a bad headache toward the end of the day yesterday and got in bed at around 6:45pm last night. So far it is better today, but 100%, however, I have a crazy, busy, day so I need to power through it.
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Leona 'The Pioppi Diet' is by a British heart specialist, Aseem Malhotra, which recommends a LCHF way of eating incorporating a lot of Olive oil, eggs and oily fish, along with at least one day of fasting a week. I am oversimplifying of course but you can look it up on the internet.

Carly, I do hope that your headache has cleared now.
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Thanks everyone for the welcome back.

Slowsure - Yes I still have the goats and am entering cajeta in an upcoming contest. My entry won Reserve Best in Show last year and I haven't made any in a year so I have to start my experiments soon. mainly because I have no control when there is cajeta in the house so must be made on an UD.

I also quit drinking Diet Coke and only drink water with pink H salt in it after my morning coffee with HWC. Trying my best to just use monkfruit and/or stevia in the coffee. Gosh this eating healthy thing is hard.

Might even try to add walking soon when it isn't too hot in the evening.
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Ooh the frustrations of the bouncing scale. It really is a head game. Two of my friends at work just went out for Indian food. It's my down day so none for me. Probably would have been a no even on an up day. Its a little local place actually in a store, but I would have no way of knowing what was in each dish to even begin to track calories or carbs. The really nice thing about this plan is...I didn't even want to go. Very strange. DH is out of town for work for the week so he is doing his best for a down day today. He says he has to go to dinner with the client but he is avoiding eating until then. He is really trying hard which is so cute for him.

Slow - I really appreciate your postings. In 2015 I was doing Stillmans and I had a stall. I looked into JUDD and saw how well everyone on this thread was doing. I saw your posting every day and it was so motivational to see how well you are doing maintaining. I tried to do a Stillmans/JUDD mix last year and it was way too hard. I could not do that. So this time I am just doing LC and JUDD and really hope to make it where you are now and be maintaining years later. So thank you for continuing to post. It shows me that this can be a lifestyle and not a diet which is really what I need. So glad MIL is doing well.

Hi Carly Thanks for the welcome. I am hanging in there with JUDD. You are another one of my role models who really rock this plan and then continue to maintain. Your posts just bring me hope of that being me one day rocking the maintenance thing.

Kissa Wow everybody is in maintenance. Thank you for continuing to post as well. You ladies are amazing with your sticking with the lifestyle and then continuing to come here to help those of us who are still figuring it out. You know I love to hear alternative plans. I know what you are saying because I was doing a certain plan on LCF and wrote on the BB that I was going to mix it up with another plan. You would think that I said I was going to commit a crime. I was basically told that I should not confuse people with my eating off the "given plan" and that I should not post there. I couldn't believe it because I thought the whole point of this journey is to figure out what works for you. And then if we share here we can get ideas for what might work for me too. I appreciate we can do that here. Its all about figuring it out and making it work for each of us.

Hello Adi. Love the goat! Do you do the Houston livestock show? I went with my kids last year. It was after work so I didn't see many of the exhibits because I really enjoy the rodeo itself. Then the kids wanted to see Blink 182 so there was that. If your goats are at the show I will look for them next time. I have 2 guinea pigs, 6 sugar gliders and a cat. Animal LOVER!!! That's me.

BlueBelle I really like scary movies too! Which one did you see? Some are really hokey. I like suspense thrillers and blood and gore is fine mixed in there. I just saw Gerald's Game on Netflix. Love the book and the movie was well done to follow the book. The Shining I still think is the scariest movie ever made. My kids laugh at me and say...mom its not even scary. The twins...ahhhhhh! Good job maintaining off plan. That really is the other half of the battle not overdoing it.

FairyWren Its really neat to hear another DH on the plan. It sounds like there are several here doing it. Mine seems to be losing very easily and not working as hard as me. He still eats pizza and donuts (just not as many and not on DD). I am very proud of him because he needs to lose weight for his heart. It really helps me as well because if he is doing it I have to. I am super competitive like that.

Hi Leona Was following you as well. Another success story! Go you. I think I will need more advice once I make it to goal. Maintenance is so hard for me.

Lunch time is almost over for me. Until tomorrow...
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jhmart "Hello Adi. Love the goat! Do you do the Houston livestock show? I went with my kids last year. It was after work so I didn't see many of the exhibits because I really enjoy the rodeo itself. Then the kids wanted to see Blink 182 so there was that. If your goats are at the show I will look for them next time. I have 2 guinea pigs, 6 sugar gliders and a cat. Animal LOVER!!! That's me."

I missed Houston last year due to Hubby's surprise heart problem but I am planning on going this year. The dairy goats move in February 26, 2018 and we show and move out on February 28, 2018. The youth show is on February 27. If the doe in my picture settled by AI she will go. She did not kid last year and she got really FAT so we are working on both of us. LOL
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QUOTE=SlowSure;17670667]Bluebelle - sometimes, it's good that we're holding station when life is as stressful as yours has been lately. You're not making things worse - and, we're looking for lives that we enjoy, not the one that we can scarcely tolerate and that only through firmly-gritted teeth.[/QUOTE]

To SlowSure and Carly - yes, you are both right. Honestly with the curveball of DH getting let go, I am grateful that I have at least managed not to gain. I am sure I will be in JUDDD bliss once things get stable again (which looks like it's right around the corner for me).

Jeni We went to see "It", I think DH liked it more than me. I spent my whole life terrified of scary movies, but now I make myself watch them (same goes for going on roller coasters - although I close my eyes on roller coasters). Agree with "The Shining" being the scariest. You should watch "The Babadook" on Netflix if you haven't already, it's one of my recent favorites.

Yesterday - we went out for another long walk with the dogs. Today has been busybusybusy with work.
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Got back from Tuscany late Sunday and am catching my breath before heading to NJ on Friday. And when I say catching my breath I mean z-cal fasting. Since Aug 16 (42 days ago) I've been on trips for 22 days and z-fasted for 13 to counteract the effects.

I understand why Muslims do not have to fulfill their fasting obligations while traveling. The MUST EAT urge is astounding! I pretty much obeyed, eating what was put in front of me with gusto, though I did manage to skip breakfast three times.

Glad to hear Slow's m-i-l is doing so great, and that Vlo's relatives made it through Maria okay. Love to phoenix and Tara and Kissa and Lose20 and FaerieWren and everybody.

Planning on doing a two or maybe three or four week pre-Thanksgiving Strictly Eating challenge next week. Hoping someone will join me to help keep the focus. Soooo glad my wandering are almost behind me. But it's been waaaay fun!

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Checking in. Doing OK with my up day so far. I lost the same 2 pounds again with yesterday's down day. Which makes me not want to eat today (which is wrong). Its a head game to have to eat right after a loss day. DH is sticking to the plan while on his business trip which is fabulous for him.

Here's a kicker my daughter had to go see a cardiologist yesterday. She is 23 years old and is having racing heart rate while resting and that is making her pass out when she stands up (not good). My daughter is 100 pounds and 5 feet 4. So what does the cardiologist want her to do? Gain weight to up her blood volume????? Is he nuts? This sounds so crazy. Granted she is thin but not sickly thin. He told her to eat more to gain weight, so in my head that means gain fat and somehow that increases your blood volume. DH thinks he's right. I think they are both crazy. Maybe DD should eat more healthy foods but not just eat to gain weight. OK off my soap box. I'm still irritated by that. Oh and they diagnosed her with POTS if anyone is wondering. I had never heard of that either, but her symptoms do match that syndrome.

Adi...Wow only 2 days for the goats to be there. That's such a small window. I will have to see if our schedule will get us out there for goat day :-)

Bluebelle....Oooh IT! I want to see that! The TV movie was terrifying (until the stupid ending) But the book had the same stupid ending. DH would not watch Geralds Game with me. He hates scary movies. So IT and Babadook I need to watch both of those now. Thanks for the referral!
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Checking in. Doing OK with my up day so far. I lost the same 2 pounds again with yesterday's down day. Which makes me not want to eat today (which is wrong). Its a head game to have to eat right after a loss day. DH is sticking to the plan while on his business trip which is fabulous for him.

Here's a kicker my daughter had to go see a cardiologist yesterday. She is 23 years old and is having racing heart rate while resting and that is making her pass out when she stands up (not good). My daughter is 100 pounds and 5 feet 4. So what does the cardiologist want her to do? Gain weight to up her blood volume????? Is he nuts? This sounds so crazy. Granted she is thin but not sickly thin. He told her to eat more to gain weight, so in my head that means gain fat and somehow that increases your blood volume. DH thinks he's right. I think they are both crazy. Maybe DD should eat more healthy foods but not just eat to gain weight. OK off my soap box. I'm still irritated by that. Oh and they diagnosed her with POTS if anyone is wondering. I had never heard of that either, but her symptoms do match that syndrome.
Well, technically being 100 pounds at 5'4" is underweight, and she may have low blood volume due to this. I don't know if gaining weight is or is not the answer, but if she does need to gain weight she should definitely increase her calories with nutritiously dense foods rather than Twinkies and cookies.


Hi All! Cold and tired, but I guess I should get used to that moving into mid-fall. My weight has been creeping up and I think next week I will do a round of Stillman's to try to bring things under control. To be fair- this time around I'm probably eating more than my body needs, which apparently is not a lot, but it is what is.
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Jeni - POTS (Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome) is what it was sounding like but I've never heard of indiscriminate weight gain as a solution for it.

You've probably got helpful organisations/charities dealing with this in the US but in the UK altho' the first line advice is that medication* should only be used after a trial of non-pharmalogical treatment, the advice here is increased fluids, more inclusion of electrolyte salts, maybe compression stockings, and exercise to increase your tolerance of blood pressure shifts and to improve your lower limbs so that blood return is more straightforward (has to be done carefully in some cases because of the fainting risk and because some people are so de-conditioned).

It is true that greater weight can increase blood volume but altho' your daughter is bottom of the BMI range and verging into moderately thin for her height I'm surprised that is the specialist's go-to advice.

*I feel compelled to say that we don't have on-label medication for POTS in the UK, just medication that is used for aspects of the symptoms.

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Has your daughter had her thyroid checked? A racing heart could also be from hyperthyroidism, and that also correlates with low body weight.
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My MiL had a follow-up with her GP yesterday (2 weeks after the kidney removal). The GP was taken aback:
1 That she'd gone to the surgery and didn't need a home visit (this is the UK people, home visits still happen here );
2 That she is so active and mobile;
3 That she looks so well.

Her recovery has been excellent so far; I'm beyond pleased.
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Slowsure - I am so impressed with your MIL and her recovery. Such good news!!

The first time I did JUDDD i had very low DD's and carb laden updays and still lost weight although very slowly. This time I am following LCHF and my bounces are very low and I am losing a little faster. BUT I am very tired and have a terrible headache every morning. I am drinking water all day but measured it is 64 ounces plus so not over doing it. I can't add sugary carbs as I am a sugar addict and all bets would be off at that point. Maybe brown rice to add some carbs? I already eat a variety of green veggies. Or maybe a sweet potato. I like them better than rice. I am tired of dragging around.
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Are you getting enough salt? Low carb flushes sodium from the body, and I use a LOT of salt because I eat very low carb all the time.

If you are new to low carb, you might consider getting an electrolyte supplement to add to your water. I got some from Amazon.
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Hiya folks.
Portia LOVE that picture!!! What is your Strictly Eating challenge? I am interested. A challenge might help me stay on track better.

I just typed out a longer post and realized it is all just whining about the same thing over and over. I'm pretty sure I'm menopausal - hard for me to admit that since I don't feel old enough for that (40s). I imagine this could be having an influence on a whole lot of things. Also busy as ever with work but at least part of it is about justifying my need to hire someone to help me. So I'll stop typing here - just wanted to say hi!
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Slow your MIL is something else.

Jeni, you have great input here from some of our 'experts'. Just hope you daughter is feeling better.

Adi, I agree about the salt. I am pretty much LCHF nowadays but I add more salt to everything than I used to in the days it was demonised.

Pheonix, hmmmm. The meno is a b*tch. HRT is all I have to say.

Carly I am afraid the cold is closing in. My Reynauds is getting worse again and even though the sun is shining here today, it is still not warm.

Still no Vlo.
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Thank you everybody for the great advice on my DD. She has always been a tiny person and 100 pounds on her does not look sickly. She is terrible about eating and recently decided to be a vegetarian. I have no objection to that lifestyle but I worry with her being in medical school that she is not really taking the time to get all of the proper nutrition she needs (iron, B12, protein). And she is running around like crazy with classes and labs and she is really stressed.
Slow Sure - you nailed it. Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome is what they believe it to be. The ruled out WPW which is good but still has a treatment. Her ekg did not show signs of WPW. She was told to up her liquids and especially Gatorade type liquids. She is supposed to keep food with her during the day. The cardiologist will be doing an echo something at her checkup next month to look at the valves in her heart. You really know a lot about this. Do you know somebody who has it. I had never heard of it and thought my daughter was low iron due to her diet.

I have to get back to work. Busy day.

Thanks again to everyone for advice on my kiddo (always be my kiddo even in her 20s)
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