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Old 03-25-2017, 05:08 PM   #61
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Oh, that's interesting. I watched the whole ultrasound so was able to see it for myself.

Sometimes tech's are the most reliable depending on their experience.....they see it all!

CT will show everything and probably more than you really wanted to know.
Get a copy of the CT report! My doc just brushed right over a very important finding but I asked for a copy and thought WTH?
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Old 03-25-2017, 05:32 PM   #62
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Oh, that's interesting. I watched the whole ultrasound so was able to see it for myself.

Sometimes tech's are the most reliable depending on their experience.....they see it all!

CT will show everything and probably more than you really wanted to know.
Get a copy of the CT report! My doc just brushed right over a very important finding but I asked for a copy and thought WTH?
The surgeon said the same thing that you just wrote about the CT maybe showing more than we expected. I hope you're okay with that finding that the doctor brushed over. I've seen that happen before.
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Old 03-25-2017, 05:48 PM   #63
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When I had my gall bladder scan in the hospital after my (assumed) issue with pancreatitis, the tech saw something she thought was unusual and immediately had the radiologist come in to see what she was worried about. So I suspect that they work more closely than is sometimes assumed.

By the way, as they conferred (and I could hear them), I said, "Yes, that spot on my liver is just a hemangioma. It showed up on an MRI several years ago and seems to be something I've had since birth."

Apparently, the tech was worried that it was cancer, and the radiologist had just decided it was only a hemangioma, but I spoke up before he could explain that to the tech. He laughed because it's always nice when things that look serious turn out to be benign.
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Old 03-25-2017, 06:14 PM   #64
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I've also had that experience during an ultrasound where the tech consulted with the radiologist during the test. But I do understand why the doctor doesn't want to do surgery based on an ultrasound. Because of an ultrasound, I had to have a D&C which showed absolutely nothing wrong. It was a waste of time, money, effort and worry.
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Old 03-26-2017, 04:49 AM   #65
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I totally understand the doctor, too. As I've mentioned, I've had two ultrasounds in 'preparation' for gall bladder removal [physicians' diagnosis], and both showed no problem. And I still have a gall bladder and haven't had any 'issues' for the past 7 years.
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Old 03-26-2017, 10:28 AM   #66
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Since the CT is for the abdomen and not just one organ, all kinds of stuff shows up. Some are less important than others.

Stenosis and plaque showed of on the celiac artery root and because the doc sent me for kidney and ovary, she didn't take the time to read the whole thing.
I would not have known if I hadn't requested a copy.
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Old 03-26-2017, 10:33 AM   #67
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My daughter had her gallbladder out on Monday after 11/2 years of chronic pain and frequent attacks. She is 39, thin, and eats a low fat diet. Her ultrasounds and CT scan showed only inflammation ( and an incidental hiatal hernia) but the surgeon decided to do the surgery anyway as she was desperate for relief after such a long time. Had same day surgery and felt awful the first few days but now says she feels better than she has since the first attack and can finally eat without pain. Looks like it was her gallbladder all along even though the tests were essentially negative.
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Old 03-26-2017, 11:20 AM   #68
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I just hope we don't get any surprises with the CT scan since DH has had two surgeries already with his abdomen. I'm nervous about his incisional hernia surgery as they used mesh and we keep hearing TV lawyer commercials about hernia mesh being recalled due to failure. I requested information from the hospital as to what mesh was used and it turns out the mesh on DH's hernia is not the same as the one that was recently recalled in 2016.
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Old 03-27-2017, 08:53 AM   #69
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Ronnie, better to find out early enough to fix before a real emergency. Still, I understand the worry.

Shunsweets, she may have been negative for stones but inflammation of an organ can cause pain so if it was chronic, the choices are more limited.
I'm glad she's feeling good.
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Old 09-03-2017, 11:21 AM   #70
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Hmm, this was like reading all the way through a book, only to find the last chapter has been torn out. Ronnie, I was just wondering how your DH is doing, and did he ever have his gall bladder removed.
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Old 09-03-2017, 12:59 PM   #71
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Apple cider vinegar and apple juice. I swear this saved my life. I too showed no stones on the test but all the signs. The most painful stuff. I only had to take it once during an attack. Now if I ever feel slightly bloated, I take this. Here are the instructions:

Mix one tablespoon of apple cider vinegar in a glass of apple juice. Drink it whenever you have a gallstone attack. This will significantly ease the pain within 15 minutes.
Alternatively, you can add two teaspoons of apple cider vinegar and one teaspoon of lemon juice to a glass of warm water. Drink it on an empty stomach in the morning. Doing this regularly for weeks can dissolve gallstones and prevent pain.
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Old 09-03-2017, 01:07 PM   #72
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Ronnie51, I just Had my Gallbladder out with a Nasty Emergency Surgery. It sounds like the Gallbladder to me but it could also be an Ulcer or a Liver problem. Please be very careful and avoid Fat and Alcohol until you see the Gastroenterologist Doc. The pain is very intense, I would give the ACV and Apple Juice a shot if there is another attack before the appointment. I wish you well.
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Old 09-03-2017, 01:09 PM   #73
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Please use Organic ACV, Braggs is Best and Natural Unfiltered Apple Juice.
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Old 09-03-2017, 01:49 PM   #74
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Hmm, this was like reading all the way through a book, only to find the last chapter has been torn out. Ronnie, I was just wondering how your DH is doing, and did he ever have his gall bladder removed.
First, I appreciate everyone's suggestions and concerns. I will update you; sorry I didn't follow up before.

Regarding the ACV remedy, I did buy a bottle "with the Mother" as well as a bottle of apple juice as I knew DH could not get the ACV down. Turns out, he never needed it as he hasn't had another attack.

The results of the CT scan showed one small gallstone and no other issues. DH was taking a proton pump inhibitor prescribed by his gastro just in case the attacks were acid related. Apparently they were. The surgeon's PA concluded that since DH had had no further attacks after starting the PPI, and since people live with gallstones as long as they're not causing no problems, that his attacks were probably acid related from the hiatal hernia, and she said no surgery at this time. She told us to come back if he had another attack. And it's now almost five months later and he is eating everything....I mean everything including fatty foods...with no attacks. About a month ago he asked the gastro doctor if he could switch to an H2 blocker because of all the bad press we've been hearing about long term use of PPI's, and the doctor said, sure, try it out, and if it works for you, great. And it seems to be working as absolutely no attacks! We don't even think about it anymore. We still have the ACV and apple juice in the refrigerator, but haven't had to open them. So, good news here. Thank you all again for your suggestions, advice and concern. The PG is an amazing group of great people!
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That's wonderful News Ronnie51, I am very glad to hear it.
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Thank you, Ms. enemy! I do hope you are fully recovered and feeling much better.
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Old 09-04-2017, 08:16 AM   #77
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So glad to hear your dh is doing well. One stone is not a problem unless it moves into the bile duct! Pain free is always great!
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Thank you, Carolyn! So far so good. :-)
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Ronnie, thanks for the update. I didn't mean to be nosy, but it was an interesting story and I wondered how it turned out. I'm glad to hear your DH didn't need gall bladder surgery and the H2 blockers have helped.

I have a hiatal hernia. I used to take a lot of OTC meds...PPI and H2 Blockers. I didn't get pain like your DH but I had a lot of gerd. I changed my diet to mostly low carb, and I can't eat fatty foods, but now I take nothing except an occasional Rolaids.
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Hi Carol! I didn't feel you were being nosy at all! I posted here to share. I'm glad you're doing better with a change in diet. I don't think I could convince DH of that, unless the H2 blockers stopped working.
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