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Old 01-12-2018, 01:14 PM   #1141
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Casey, you have to post to get a "good morning" Lol.

I have read a little on fasting and cancer. I haven't felt ready for it mentally. You'd think a cancer patient would do whatever it takes to rid one's self of cancer.

And there are those people. I found out that I'm not. I'm driven to find the best way that works with who I am. I mean if I knew for sure that a three day fast would cure my cancer, I'm all in. But so far alternative efforts have gone no where.

Rather I should say, it appears that they haven't worked, but then maybe I'd be dead by now if I hadn't done so many healthy things. I have had two MD's tell me I was doing remarkably well for a sarcoma patient.

The lady MD at the clinic was probably surprised I wasn't dead already. I'm still mad at her for her lame efforts with me. "Save the clinic, not people" , is what my experience was.

Keck Medicine USC is so much more professional and on top of my care. At the clinic no one seemed to know what was going on. You just sit there until you squeak and they finally realize they need to oil the squeaky wheel.

Chemo today. Hopefully. I never thought I'd be so eager to get poisoned. But I love the idea of the cancer getting wacked hard. Especially the the cells that start new tumors. There they are happily forming a new colony and boom, goodbye little colony.

Have a great LC day my friends.

PS: I will look more into the fasting. More than one person has pointed me that way of late.
I am not a happy faster. I don’t blame you for resisting it. I also relax the rules with artificial sweeteners and bone broth, but hoping I still get some benefits.

I think the cancer benefit includes IF and just calorie restriction in general, too. Maybe you wouldn’t need to totally fast.

Anyway, whatever you do, I’m happy that the chemo appears to be attacking it! My ex MIL (oldest DDs grandma) was dx with ovarian cancer about 2 years ago...she opted to not do chemo, and then once she decided to because other things weren’t working, it was too late. Her cancer was very fast and aggressive.. I believe she died 4 months after dx. She was always so good to me, even after her son and I divorced. Very sad.

Casey, I’m sorry the news wasn’t better about your dad..sounds very positive that you’d just been at Bible study before interacting with your family.

People often think I have an insensitive view of death- but really I don’t- if I know where they’re going I feel quite relieved. Gone from my sight, but definitely not gone!! I feel my dad around me all the time, in so many ways.

Kris, it’s like a foot brace that goes up to mid-calf. Not the most attractive thing to wear to bed, but it does the job! I hope it works for you too!! Stay warm!
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Casey Sorry not the best news on your dad. Tough decisions to make

Deanslist Hope you are feeling better and didn't end up with a cold. Thanks for info on foot brace. I'm going to go to Walmart today and look at the store and if they don't have one there I found one on their website I can order. I don't order much on line; have had problems with things going to wrong house and just sitting there. The online one was just under $20, made by ACE. I was looking for the one that was least bulky. Again I really appreciate the info on something to try as I've been to a foot doctor who really didn't offer many options - never even mentioned the brace. I already have the inserts.

GB Looking forward to hearing how you are doing today. Hope the treatment went well

Super cold here again of course. I have some errands to run, stuff to return, and then will meet some friends for early dinner at 4. It won't really be LC but I'll take half of it home and keep it lighter carb. That's the mode I'm in for the weekend, just maintaining really. Last night I ended up with just one chicken wing, celery/carrot sticks and one cheese filled wonton thing, some carbs but not tons. I won't lose this way of course.
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:40 AM   #1143
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good morning, GB, Kris and Melissa! hope you are all doing well and have a blessed Friday!

Went with my parents to meet with my dad's surgeon yesterday... Not the outcome I had hoped. I thought we'd be getting a surgery date for the mass in the middle lobe of his lung, but the dr is concerned about another possible mass in the lower lobe too. Initial PET scan showed "no activity" but second one indicates activity. I'm bummed because it went from stage one, operable and no post op radiation or chemo, to stage 2 or 3, and at age 82, surgery may not be an option (taking too much of the lung out), which leaves chemo and radiation. They're going to do another biopsy and CT scan for better information and we meet with the surgeon again on January 25. Dad is in denial and mom is angry - at everyone and everything - so I spend my time with them in referee mode. I went to the appointment straight from bible study, which is good because my thoughts were on the higher plan and prayers for their peace of mind as we go down this path. If he chooses not to have radiation and chemo, I worry that his breathing will become harder and harder, which would be an awful way to go - anyone who has had pneumonia or bronchitis will understand that panicked feeling of not being able to breathe. So, GB I'm curious, now that you are going down the radiation/chemo road.... I hear positive results from you - but would your decision be different at 82, or with the lungs being affected?
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Yeah, I'm sorry to hear about more masses. I'm no expert, especially on lung cancer. I do know that as I read about cancer for over a year, it seemed that lung cancer was often on the list of being beatable. I could have traded my sarcomas for it.

And then you have the age factor, so I just am too dumb to speak with authority. I do know that little old ladies in their 90's have done chemo. That's what my doctor told me.

I relate to your dad's denial. I'm good at that one too. If I wasn't in so much denial, I'd be fighting this cancer harder. But I prefer to look at the world thru amber colored glasses. And I do that literally as well, my sunglasses make the grass greener and the hills more golden than real life.

It's not reality, but it's prettier. Who knows, a little bit of denial is better than depression. Treating the cancer with some peace of mind may go further than with fear. I should fear my cancer, but I don't. Besides, my cancer is nothing before the mighty hand of God.

That said, God expects us to be wise. Trust Him and then do all you can. I'd rather err to the side of expecting too much from God. Than to expect too little and have all my trust in doctors. Can I get an amen? Can I get a hallelujah?

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I am not a happy faster. I donít blame you for resisting it. I also relax the rules with artificial sweeteners and bone broth, but hoping I still get some benefits.

I think the cancer benefit includes IF and just calorie restriction in general, too. Maybe you wouldnít need to totally fast.

Anyway, whatever you do, Iím happy that the chemo appears to be attacking it! My ex MIL (oldest DDs grandma) was dx with ovarian cancer about 2 years ago...she opted to not do chemo, and then once she decided to because other things werenít working, it was too late. Her cancer was very fast and aggressive.. I believe she died 4 months after dx. She was always so good to me, even after her son and I divorced. Very sad.

Casey, Iím sorry the news wasnít better about your dad..sounds very positive that youíd just been at Bible study before interacting with your family.

People often think I have an insensitive view of death- but really I donít- if I know where theyíre going I feel quite relieved. Gone from my sight, but definitely not gone!! I feel my dad around me all the time, in so many ways.

Kris, itís like a foot brace that goes up to mid-calf. Not the most attractive thing to wear to bed, but it does the job! I hope it works for you too!! Stay warm!
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Thanks DL for your encouraging ways. Instead of rebuking me not being excited about fasting, you simply encouraged me to step it down and find a compromise. Then later we could up it to fasting. That's good counseling style.

I want to say a few remarks about your view on death. Next post. Stay tuned.

Kris , my chemo went great. My labs were "beautiful" is what the nurse said. Feel great this morning. This is typical right after chemo, and then as your body starts to deal with toxic overload on day 4 or 5....things are a little gloomy.

But I'm going to look for ways to prevent day 4 or 5 from being gloomy. Like sweating it out in my sauna.
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Good morning everyone. Hope you're having some fun on your weekend.

Yeah, DL
I tend to be rather casual about death, in the sense of I know where I'm going when I cross thru the veil. The sad part is leaving loved ones behind. So we live for them.

I sure have done my share of selfish living too. Still struggle with it. Right from the get go. It was hard to see another child play with my favorite toy.

But we grow up and learn to love one another. It's hard at times, especially when people act unlovely. You know the drill. We all do.

Anyway, had a great day yesterday. I felt great. My son in law got some new stuff from the medical cannabis dispensary. Finally found something that gave me a nice effect when smoked.

I know, it sounds like loser time, but i'm under professional direction from a nurse in Hawaii who told me to take as much THC as I can tolerate. It really helps in the overall fight with cancer. It has a direct kill effect on cancer, although for advanced cancer, like mine, chemo is the big gun.

But it was a nice wirey kind of effect. Very alert feeling. Add that in with the anti-depressant I've been taking for over a week, and some how I felt pretty good. That's a great place to be right after a chemo treatment.

Still love my new truck. Can't wait to take DW out on a trip. I think she will feel a lot better in that big, roomy cab, than in that cramped little Sebring with the dangerous roof. Although it was a great car for us. The air conditioning was weak and attempts to fix it still left my DW hot in the car in the desert. No good.

Day three after chemo begins. I still feel good. Tomorrow could take a turn for the worse. But I sweated out good in my sauna yesterday. Plus I'm taking zeolite powder to carry out toxins quicker. Basically I'm trying to help my liver by not requiring it to process the whole toxic load.
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Good Morning!

So glad yesterday was a good day for you & also you had good lab reports GB. Hope you are still feeling OK today!

Kind of a quiet weekend for us, not much going on and with the holiday today we have no baby so we went to breakfast buffet at the casino. No gambling, just in and out food! I don't do bad at breakfast buffets tho since there are so many good LC choices. I probably over ate a bit, feel kina full, but no sugar loaded breads, pancakes or pastries!! I'd love to fast for the rest of the day but probably DH will want to go somewhere. It's so cold an nasty here, going to keep dropping in temps all day, no reason to go out if you ask me
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So glad yesterday was a good day for you & also you had good lab reports GB. Hope you are still feeling OK today!

Kind of a quiet weekend for us, not much going on and with the holiday today we have no baby so we went to breakfast buffet at the casino. No gambling, just in and out food! I don't do bad at breakfast buffets tho since there are so many good LC choices. I probably over ate a bit, feel kina full, but no sugar loaded breads, pancakes or pastries!! I'd love to fast for the rest of the day but probably DH will want to go somewhere. It's so cold an nasty here, going to keep dropping in temps all day, no reason to go out if you ask me
I agree. Stay home. Good job at the casino, avoiding the bad stuff!

I felt great the day of chemo. The best on day two. Yesterday wasn't bad. Today has been queasy. Nap day. But I'm making it work. It's worth it. Love dealing the cancer a blow. A death blow.
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hi, GB - thank you for your unique perspective on my dad's situation. We'll know more on the 25th. I think some THC would, at least, make my mom more tolerable - ha.
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Casey Continued prayers for your dad.

GB Sorry about the queasy. You have a great outlook on blasting that cancer with a death blow.

Deanslist Hope you are staying warm!

Schools closed around here again, or at least many having a late start. I understand the need for that, want the kids to be safe. But it sure makes things crazy for the parents. Hard for some to just "go into work late" several days in a row. I remember it happening when I had kids in school too I guess, just seems so long ago. I feel old these days I guess, maybe too much staying home in the house My Cold/sinus infection has lasted almost 4 weeks now, longest lasting one I've ever had I think I also feel "generally less healthy" since I'm not able to exercise with the heel/foot pain. I've always been able to exercise some way all of my life. Well, someday everything will be back to normal Just don't feel like eating healthy either???
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hi, GB - thank you for your unique perspective on my dad's situation. We'll know more on the 25th. I think some THC would, at least, make my mom more tolerable - ha.
You're welcome Casey
I hope I've helped. I don't suppose your mom would be interested in THC tho. Not sure of the laws there anyway. But there are CBD oil products that have no THC, that would/could help. They can ship across state lines. Pricey too.

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Casey Continued prayers for your dad.

GB Sorry about the queasy. You have a great outlook on blasting that cancer with a death blow.

Deanslist Hope you are staying warm!

Schools closed around here again, or at least many having a late start. I understand the need for that, want the kids to be safe. But it sure makes things crazy for the parents. Hard for some to just "go into work late" several days in a row. I remember it happening when I had kids in school too I guess, just seems so long ago. I feel old these days I guess, maybe too much staying home in the house My Cold/sinus infection has lasted almost 4 weeks now, longest lasting one I've ever had I think I also feel "generally less healthy" since I'm not able to exercise with the heel/foot pain. I've always been able to exercise some way all of my life. Well, someday everything will be back to normal Just don't feel like eating healthy either???
Wow, you're really going thru it there in the icy cold Kris. Chaka Khan feels for you. Feels for you, feels for you.

Keep taking lots of vitamin C and garlic. Apple cider vinegar is excellent too. I swallow ACV in water at the first inkling of a cold. That usually ends it before it can get a hold.

Some really bad flu going around here. I can't afford to get it. They'd want to hospitalize me.

Today is Day 5 since chemo. Woke up queasy, but thru an anti-nausea med at it. Makes me tired, but tired is better than nausea. Shots today and tomorrow, then hopefully Lartruvo on Friday. The drug that is more Sarcoma specific.

Maybe I will calorie restrict today. Been reading up. Fasting does seem promising. Thanks DL.
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hi, GB- lol - my brother and I had a conversation about how to slip mom some "edibles" - to get her to relax. She's the type that is very controlling - and the older they get and with health issues, she has less and less that she can control, so she becomes ultra controlling over anything that she can. Doctor prescribed Prozac a few years ago and she'd fight the good effects - feeling good made her uncomfortable!!! So if she felt good, she would stop taking them, and no one knew she was dong this - she was absolutely all over the map. i suffered with eating disorders in my teens (and twenties) and I think part of it was in response to her controlling nature - eating was the only thing that I could control! I had nightmares the whole time I lived at home and a therapist later said that was my way of working things out and dealing with it. Going low carb in 1999 helped me get a handle on those eating issues. So, 18 years of eating low carb and staying in a 5 lb range has helped me manage the eating issues. Wow - there's a TMI that I wasn't expecting. where did all of that come from?! Thanks for listening!
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I’m sorry I fell off with posting! I’m on my phone but will get caught up tonight.

Yay for the THC. Glad it helps! I was never a weed smoker but I bet I’d like that alert feeling you’re talking about!

I feel like crap.. cough, headache.. totally whiny. Sat in a freezing cold hockey arena last night to take part in the joy of my kids’ skating lessons. When we got out at 8 pm, it was 5 above, but the wind was enough to rip your face off. It’s like, who CHzoOSeS to live here????? Lol

I hope you are well, friends. I had another tough day with clients, wrestling with God, begging him to let me do something else...same ol same ol.

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Hi Casey (saw your post DL---will make some comments)

The older I get the more I realize that "control" is a huge problem. I want my airline pilot to be in control of the flight, but a controlling person is a problem.

We all have the problem in degrees. Hard to hand control of my life over to God. It is sad when control really defines a person. It's ugly. Part of the family dynamic here in my own home is the trying to control others to do the right thing.

They don't want to your advice, thank you. But we know it's best. They don't care. They have to make their own mistakes. I get it. My DW struggles more with it. My parenting style gets called "enabling", because I believe in letting people mess up, so they can learn. So yes, I enable my kids to make lots of dumb mistakes.

I don't know what to tell ya. Keep praying. Keep on loving mom.
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So true, GB. I had a good conversation with them yesterday about using our trials to give glory to God - it will be a witness to other people. I told my dad I'd be a whole lot more worried if I didn't know where he stood in his faith.

Hi, Melissa - go Vikings!

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They don't want to your advice, thank you. But we know it's best. They don't care. They have to make their own mistakes. I get it. My DW struggles more with it. My parenting style gets called "enabling", because I believe in letting people mess up, so they can learn. So yes, I enable my kids to make lots of dumb mistakes.
Following along somewhat. DH is like you. Problem with that is, one is 50 years old and still making the dumb mistakes because she was enabled all along, constantly had a cushion. Other one is doing outstanding, but raised in the same home with the same parents.
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Following along somewhat. DH is like you. Problem with that is, one is 50 years old and still making the dumb mistakes because she was enabled all along, constantly had a cushion. Other one is doing outstanding, but raised in the same home with the same parents.
Hi PAC, miss seeing you here more often. I guess it depends on how enabling is defined.

Some parents have lots of money and they use the money as leverage to get the child behaving. Bad behavior means no university.

I never had the money leverage thing. I disciplined when they were young. But as they got older and realized it would be community college, dad wasn't much of a threat anymore.

It just wasn't in me to take things away, like a cell phone. I was like just do whats right. Do you need me to tell you? No? Ok good, figure it out. Some call my style enabling because I don't confiscate the cell phone or hold them up in their room for a week.

I don't know what to say, I had to be me. I couldn't fake being someone else's hard nose dad. But if you have the money for new cars and education funds, you can really get their attention. You mess with dad and the money goes away.
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Iím sorry I fell off with posting! Iím on my phone but will get caught up tonight.

Yay for the THC. Glad it helps! I was never a weed smoker but I bet Iíd like that alert feeling youíre talking about!

I feel like crap.. cough, headache.. totally whiny. Sat in a freezing cold hockey arena last night to take part in the joy of my kidsí skating lessons. When we got out at 8 pm, it was 5 above, but the wind was enough to rip your face off. Itís like, who CHzoOSeS to live here????? Lol

I hope you are well, friends. I had another tough day with clients, wrestling with God, begging him to let me do something else...same ol same ol.

Small gripes though. God is good. How bout them Vikes???
God is good DL, amen to that. That's something that's always true, even in the face of bad circumstances.

It's strange that this current world is "fallen". Yet there remains so many reminders of the original creation. Flowers, butterflies, the nice side of people, rainbows, fruit hanging off trees, singing birds, beauty everywhere.

Even the kind ways we support each other in here.

Well, who knows, God may just give you a different job. Keep on asking. We have not because we ask not, right? Ask that we might receive. Answer might not be for 5 years tho. Patience.

God is up to something. He isn't too busy at all. Running this universe poses no challenge on Him. I watched a Little House on the Prairie where a would be "angel" told Laura that God listens to us when He has the time. I wanted to crawl out of my skin at such bad theology.

I will keep praying along with you for better tomorrows. Hang in there.
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Cancer Update: Been battling the hard days of 4, 5 and 6, after a round of chemo. Yesterday I felt a tad better than day 5, so at dinner time (skipped dinner on day 5)on day 6 I decided I could hold down a burger.

I asked my DD if she wouldn't mind having her DH pick me one up on his way home. She recommended a gourmet burger from this hipster place with expensive food.

So I get this burger with "beer cheese" and onion rings and grass fed beef with unique bacon chunks, etc etc. It was called the manly burger. Came with fries, but they had turned cold and lost their glory.

Anyway, DW helped me eat this amazing burger. It was good, but kind of too good. So rich! I sat content with a full stomach for about 45 minutes. Suddenly I wasn't so sure about my unpredictable nausea. I quickly took a med and waited.

My stomach began to ache a little. I felt queasy and panicky. And yes.....you guessed it. I got to see that beautiful burger twice. What a disaster.

Lesson learned. No more gourmet burgers while recovering from recent chemo. Stick to bland and easy.
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Hi Everyone!!

PAC Good to see you popped in to say Hi!

Sorry to hear you got the crud DEANSIST. I sure hope it doesn't last as long as mine has - I'm better than I was but tomorrow will be 4 weeks. DH thinks I should go to a dr but I really think it was a 'cold' I had to wait out I guess. True, I've never had one last this long but I am coughing less now. However if you feel like it is the flu YES go get checked. We have had 4 deaths here in this area from just the flu. People don't think you can die from it but I guess you can from this string. Scary.

GB OMG sorry to hear about the hamburger coming back at ya. Like you said, lesson learned

My girls were pretty easy to raise for the most part but DD is having a rough time with oldest son (who is only 6) but a continuous behavioral problem. He misbehaves at school and at their morning babysitter who takes him to school - he's becoming a bit of a bully and if someone picks on him he hits them. Of course you CANT do that at school (or anywhere). They talk and talk to him about not touching others and being nice & they have taken toys and games away but so far not much is working very well. He's ok for a couple days and then starts being bad again. I wish I knew how to help her - but I'm at a loss. He doesn't see violent behavior at home; they don't spank him or anything because that's not taught as acceptable discipline anymore. It's a problem. Any suggestions welcome

We are supposed to have 4 days with highs in the 40s coming!! Getting out of the deepfreeze here
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Hi PAC, miss seeing you here more often. I guess it depends on how enabling is defined.

Some parents have lots of money and they use the money as leverage to get the child behaving. Bad behavior means no university.

I never had the money leverage thing. I disciplined when they were young. But as they got older and realized it would be community college, dad wasn't much of a threat anymore.

It just wasn't in me to take things away, like a cell phone. I was like just do whats right. Do you need me to tell you? No? Ok good, figure it out. Some call my style enabling because I don't confiscate the cell phone or hold them up in their room for a week.

I don't know what to say, I had to be me. I couldn't fake being someone else's hard nose dad. But if you have the money for new cars and education funds, you can really get their attention. You mess with dad and the money goes away.
I don't consider that enabling, GB. She could just wrap him around her finger and get to do what she wanted. There was no money available for spoiling. But now she still does what she wants, and when she needs money to pay her bills because she squandered it all, he pays the bills. Not that he has extra money, but it's either help her keep her home, or she moves back in here. The choice is obvious!! LOL
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From Umami? This what it looked like the first time you saw it?
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Hi all!!

I finally have a chance to sit down and catch up

Kris, my crud is already leaving the building so I am thrilled about that. Today was a much better day and my voice is almost normal. I have a bad headache right now though, not sure what that is about! I am super excited about the 40's too. I was just outside and it felt soooo good. There was no wind and felt like spring. MUCH needed!!!

GB, glad you're coming to the end with the chemo recovery cycle. Your description of the burger was too funny. Love how it's called the "MANLY" burger. I totally could put down one of those. People are humbled by how much I can eat when I put my mind to it.. haha... DH and I always talk about going to the Heart Attack Grille... I totally would if the opportunity ever arose!

Hi Carol! I can relate to the adult children issues...DH and I kinda fell into some enabling with my oldest DD. I still help her out but MUCH less. She is 23 now and on her own... but the first 3ish years out of high school were rough.. lots of rescuing. I'm very grateful she's been independent for a while now and found a living situation that works well for her. It was tenuous for a while..eeek. We moved her around a lot, or so it seemed to me. Annnnnnd...now I have somewhat of an understanding of what my mother went through with me. I remember her saying things to me like, "I'd fall over DEAD if I ever asked you to do something and you said "SURE MOM! Without complaining!!! Sheesh.. I could be a pill, but I think I was more or less always polite to adults. I love DD23 soooo dearly but it's dicey when we live together.. lol

Casey, I'm SOOOOO nervous for the game Sunday. I'd love to wear my Vikings garb proudly to work Monday and not have to eat crow.. we will see... I know it's just a game but the closer we get the more I WANT TO WIN.. haha

Ok.. just rambling.. feeling better about my place in life, complaining about the job less, practicing gratitude.. all that good stuff It helps that I'm feeling better and tomorrow is FRIDAY!!! 40 Degree Friday, at that!
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From Umami? This what it looked like the first time you saw it?
Ha , that is it! Only the onion rings were all smashed and gooey, too many as well. I am sooooo glad I encouraged my wife to keep taking bites

She probably saved me two heaves. No more Umami for me. It cost $17.00 with a small order of fries that must be eaten hot. I think the whole experience would be best inside the restaurant.

My son in law had been sitting in his car letting my food turn soggy and the fries go cold and stiff. Now I understand Archie Bunker more.

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