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Old 12-31-2010, 06:54 AM   #61
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Statins lower your endogenous stores of CoQ10 to critical levels. CoQ10 is a major antioxidant so when it is dramatically lowered, your risk of heart attack and cancer go up.
Wish I had been informed of this when I was on statins.... Another example of why we must be our own advocates...
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You know, we could all buy an extra one and donate it to our libraries.. I think I'll do that.
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You know, we could all buy an extra one and donate it to our libraries.. I think I'll do that.
Ask 'em if they want it first! I work in a library, and often we can't use the books that people donate and end up donating them ourselves.

Behind the scenes, libraries have to plan what they buy and do a bunch of processing to each book before it goes out on the shelf. They also have to plan for the space that the book will take up on the shelf, and what they'll do with the book when it quits being popular.

For a book like this, that's sure to be on the best-seller lists, I'd bet that your library has already bought (or plans to buy) multiple copies, and wouldn't be able to use a donated one.

Libraries usually love cash donations, though!
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I'll ask them, but I highly doubt my little library will buy this one.
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Just got it for Kindle! I'm hoping that I can persuade DH to read it. He eats at least 500 grams of carbs a day (I figured it out yesterday!). Although he isn't more than a little chubby, it is SO unhealthy in other ways.
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Old 01-01-2011, 04:40 AM   #67
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I put it on my Ipod last night, I am hoping I can get DH to listen to it. He does not read, but might listen to it. I may have to wait for a car trip and force him to listen, lol. I also bought the book to lend out to others. I am so tired of friends and family thinking I am crazy and making up this "crazy diet" I am on!
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Old 01-01-2011, 04:45 AM   #68
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waiting for a copy from the library, but reading excerpts here

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Tamara, do you know about the October 2009 study out of Duke University? Here it is for your reference. Maybe you can laminate it You know, the statin subject.......I have a client right now who is scared to death to talk to his Dr. about discontinuing his meds......he claims it's because he doesn't want to die of a heart attack like his father did. Well, his father was a raging alcoholic for many years and lived on pub food his entire adult life.......

Had I not changed my diet so many years ago, I would probably be in that category as well.

You might also do some research on the reason statins are prescribed. It's all about the insurance. It's structured so the file shows some form of medical treatment for abnormal readings to prevent suits later.
Oh yeah, I've got that one and all sorts of interesting things off of PubMed. (The big perk of working in the pharma industry, I have free access to the research DBs!).

So sad about your client. I wish that everyone would do the research and realize that the statins do not do anything. Even the "successful" trials only show a reduction in CHD death for a very small percentage of the population. With no reduction in all cause mortality. Personally I'd rather have a heart attack than cancer I know the Drs need to cover themselves, I just wish more people would realize that they can say no and have a good reason to do so... Even worse is the constant lowering of acceptable TC numbers, how many more cancer and stroke patients a year is that creating?

At least I got my dad to stop taking them when he started having memory problems.

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Old 01-01-2011, 10:42 AM   #72
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That seemed liked 1/2 the book!
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I was going to buy this and found out this morning that the library has it. I'm like only 2nd on the hold list.
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Old 01-01-2011, 01:36 PM   #74
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I just ordered GCBC, and the new book, as well as both Bernstein books and 2 more LC cookbooks from amazon. Lots of important reading to do!
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I'm really loving this book. It is such a huge paradigm shift to think "my fat is making me hungry" instead of "my hunger (and satisfaction of it) is making me fat." (I'm part way through Chapte 8 and just couldn't resist saying something!!! I will probably stay home all day tomorrow to keep reading!!)

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Old 01-01-2011, 08:19 PM   #76
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My kids got together for Christmas and bought me a Kindle, Yay! This was a geat introduction to it. I read about this book, looked it up on line, decided i wanted to read it, got on the Kindle and bought it and downloaded it and was reading it...all in about 20 minutes!!! Amazing! I'm up to about Chapter 8 and I am so glad I got it. It is validating so much that I suspected, or knew, from my own experience. It's amazing how ingrained the thinking is though, Even as I am reading and nodding my head "Yes, yes, yes." I find myself wondering, "Could this be true? Really true?" How could "they" all be so wrong for so long?
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Old 01-02-2011, 06:05 AM   #77
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My kids got together for Christmas and bought me a Kindle, Yay! This was a geat introduction to it. I read about this book, looked it up on line, decided i wanted to read it, got on the Kindle and bought it and downloaded it and was reading it...all in about 20 minutes!!! Amazing! I'm up to about Chapter 8 and I am so glad I got it. It is validating so much that I suspected, or knew, from my own experience. It's amazing how ingrained the thinking is though, Even as I am reading and nodding my head "Yes, yes, yes." I find myself wondering, "Could this be true? Really true?" How could "they" all be so wrong for so long?

I just have to say...adorable avatar!! This is so off topic, but, is that your kitty?

I got this book for Kindle too (I too got a Kindle for Christmas from DH!) and just started it. I am finding it very enjoyable despite having already read GCBC
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Better luck to all of you hoping someone you love 'reads it and has the lightbulb moment'.

I just sent this to a loved one. He could be a doctor if he wanted to (he is the head of a laboratory and into research instead). His comment on it after reading?

"Did you realize this is written by a REPORTER?" said in complete and total disdain (at 350 lbs. on a 5'6" frame, on a statin, pace maker, and a doctor who keeps drumming 'lowfat' into him..he's only 58).

Sigh.

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Better luck to all of you hoping someone you love 'reads it and has the lightbulb moment'.

I just sent this to a loved one. He could be a doctor if he wanted to (he is the head of a laboratory and into research instead). His comment on it after reading?

"Did you realize this is written by a REPORTER?" said in complete and total disdain (at 350 lbs. on a 5'6" frame, on a statin, pace maker, and a doctor who keeps drumming 'lowfat' into him..he's only 58).

Sigh.

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Just finished the book this morning. I think it is the most perfect book; it isn't an instructional diet book although he provides a short appendix on LC menus and foods but also is not too heavy with studies/evidence like GCBC. It is convincing that carbs are the problem not fat and leaves you WANTING to eat LC without ever cheating. He has reenergized my already deep faith that LC is the way to not only weightloss but also better health. A perfect read for someone that needs to know the "science"/evidence behind why they should/shouldn't eat a certain way in order to commit totally and fully...it is not about deprivation, LCing is essential to attain better health.
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Better luck to all of you hoping someone you love 'reads it and has the lightbulb moment'.

I just sent this to a loved one. He could be a doctor if he wanted to (he is the head of a laboratory and into research instead). His comment on it after reading?

"Did you realize this is written by a REPORTER?" said in complete and total disdain (at 350 lbs. on a 5'6" frame, on a statin, pace maker, and a doctor who keeps drumming 'lowfat' into him..he's only 58).

Sigh.

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I'm really loving this book. It is such a huge paradigm shift to think "my fat is making me hungry" instead of "my hunger (and satisfaction of it) is making me fat." (I'm part way through Chapte 8 and just couldn't resist saying something!!! I will probably stay home all day tomorrow to keep reading!!)

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DG: That part was amazing..My fat is making me hungry.. I never thought of that.

And the part for women when we lose our estrogen, we gain weight..So, they supplemented the estrogen deprived rats with estrogen and they lost weight.
Hmm...very interesting.
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DG: That part was amazing..My fat is making me hungry.. I never thought of that.

And the part for women when we lose our estrogen, we gain weight..So, they supplemented the estrogen deprived rats with estrogen and they lost weight.
Hmm...very interesting.
So hormone replacement in menopause should help with weight loss.
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Hi everyone, first post here, I read this in ebook form and it was a real eye-opener. Convinced me to try low carb.

I've been overweight my whole life and while I don't believe I have diabetes (been a while since I've had a blood test though), I'm sure I was well on my way to it. My mom had it and it seems to run in the family. Previously I was able to lose weight by 2 methods--one was a dietitian's recommendations (involved lots of veggies and I usually made my own stir-fry with olive oil, frozen veggies and brown rice) and the other was by meeting the woman whom I married and being unable to eat much at all for a month (first technique took 6 months to shed 10 lbs, second technique took 1-1.5mo to shed another 10) but I've gained ALL of that back since then. Lots and lots of carbs went into that.
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Hi everyone, first post here, I read this in ebook form and it was a real eye-opener. Convinced me to try low carb.

I've been overweight my whole life and while I don't believe I have diabetes (been a while since I've had a blood test though), I'm sure I was well on my way to it. My mom had it and it seems to run in the family. Previously I was able to lose weight by 2 methods--one was a dietitian's recommendations (involved lots of veggies and I usually made my own stir-fry with olive oil, frozen veggies and brown rice) and the other was by meeting the woman whom I married and being unable to eat much at all for a month (first technique took 6 months to shed 10 lbs, second technique took 1-1.5mo to shed another 10) but I've gained ALL of that back since then. Lots and lots of carbs went into that.
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Yes, but he's a reporter who studied physics at Harvard and Aerospace Engineering at Stanford. Color me impressed... (not to mention, he's kinda' hot )

Biography | Gary Taubes
Well, yes. I know that. You know that. He knows that. Unfortunately, I don't want to go with 'degrees' and 'where' cuz this relative has MORE than Taubes backing him up....and a medical degree.



And...if you mention 'Well, the plan I used to lose over 100 lbs. and have kept it off for over eight YEARS was written by a doctor, and so was this one and this one.....' and he lapses into 'I'd trust Dr. Ornish...cuz he's on TV...'...ACKKKKK

It's maddening!

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So hormone replacement in menopause should help with weight loss.
Not always. If I add estrogen at this point...I GAIN..but it's water. And for me, the MOST important hormone that helps me keep the weight off (and probably helped take it off) is thyroid hormone T3.

I think it's dependant upon your 'hormone status' individually. My doctor did a lot of stuff with weight loss and proper progesterone amounts over 32 yrs. old. We had a discussion with like 10 of us after reading the book on the 'estrogen deprived' part.

Human women can be estrogen 'deprived' at certain ages...but women who are well into menopause and have been totally post meno for over ten years...estrogen at that time seems to defeat the purpose most of the time. Take a woman in her late 30's to late 40's who isn't receiving progesterone or estrogen and yes...they tend to need the balance to lose and maintain.

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