Why We Get Fat & What To Do About It

[clackley]

I hear mine is shipped as well but when I go to Costco today and they have it, I am buying it!!! Well probably not but I will be spending a little time with it in store!!

[JustCallMeAmy]

Originally Posted by clackley

I hear mine is shipped as well but when I go to Costco today and they have it, I am buying it!!! Well probably not but I will be spending a little time with it in store!!

dh went to Costco to get a laptop yesterday before heading out to Chapters, and Costco didn't have it

[GardenGirl639]

I'm about 25% through it and I love it! It is exactly what I need to read right now. I find it a fairly easy read.

Originally Posted by Looweewoo

I'm really mostly hoping for some good inspiring analogies for some of the processes. I still draw from the comparison of growing fat to growing tall.

Major connections made in my brain when I read this in Why We Get Fat! Major!

I have some "waiting room time" today and hope to read more of it.

[CindyCRNA]

Originally Posted by happyone

Kindle!!

How much is the Kindle download? I have an iPad and may be able to do the same.

[GardenGirl639]

Originally Posted by CindyCRNA

How much is the Kindle download? I have an iPad and may be able to do the same.

$9.99 Totally worth it!

[clackley]

Originally Posted by JustCallMeAmy

dh went to Costco to get a laptop yesterday before heading out to Chapters, and Costco didn't have it

Ah well, I guess I will have to wait 'patiently' then for my delivery...

[Looweewoo]

Got mine but no time to read today....

[JustCallMeAmy]

i'm through the first 2/3rds so far...A-MAZ-ING.

[Portia]

got it - can't wait to start! But going to a hockey game tonight so it will have to wait...

[GardenGirl639]

Originally Posted by JustCallMeAmy

i'm through the first 2/3rds so far...A-MAZ-ING.

I agree!

[Chasintrail]

Originally Posted by fawn

Tamara, have you ever read know your fats by Enig?

Also check out the Weston Price site. There are all kinds of things that are referenced and Chris Masterjohn one of the contributors has a website titled Cholesterol - You Can't Live Without It!

Of course the books you've mentioned are wonderful too.

Fawn, thanks for the reccomendations. I've read all of the web sites. Mary Enig's book has been on my Amazon wish list forever and is currently in my shopping cart waiting for payday.

I'm hoping to find a book that deliveres the science of why fat and cholesterol do not cause heart disease and why statins are evil without the distractions of weight loss. I've got a few people that I'd like to educate on this without having to go into Nutrition 901. At least I got my dad off statins after his memory started going.... <sigh>

[CindyCRNA]

Originally Posted by GardenGirl639

I agree!

Just curious. How is it any different from the others or does it just explain better?

[JustCallMeAmy]

just finished it! it just got better as i read, it ends with a basically Atkins meal plan

this book is easier to understand, much!

[fawn]

Originally Posted by Chasintrail

Fawn, thanks for the reccomendations. I've read all of the web sites. Mary Enig's book has been on my Amazon wish list forever and is currently in my shopping cart waiting for payday.

I'm hoping to find a book that deliveres the science of why fat and cholesterol do not cause heart disease and why statins are evil without the distractions of weight loss. I've got a few people that I'd like to educate on this without having to go into Nutrition 901. At least I got my dad off statins after his memory started going.... <sigh>

Tamara, do you know about the October 2009 study out of Duke University? Here it is for your reference. Maybe you can laminate it You know, the statin subject.......I have a client right now who is scared to death to talk to his Dr. about discontinuing his meds......he claims it's because he doesn't want to die of a heart attack like his father did. Well, his father was a raging alcoholic for many years and lived on pub food his entire adult life.......

Had I not changed my diet so many years ago, I would probably be in that category as well.

You might also do some research on the reason statins are prescribed. It's all about the insurance. It's structured so the file shows some form of medical treatment for abnormal readings to prevent suits later.

[twinsplusone]

I just finished it and loved it! I found chapter 9 life changing!! Almost the whole chapter is highlighted.

I have read Good Calories/Bad Calories too but loved all the examples he gives in this book and his comparison to obesity/carbs to lung cancer/cigarettes.

What did you all think of his mentioning Oprah? Wonder what the Oprah-camp will do with that? Hope they have him on the show!!

[JustCallMeAmy]

Originally Posted by twinsplusone

I just finished it and loved it! I found chapter 9 life changing!! Almost the whole chapter is highlighted.

I have read Good Calories/Bad Calories too but loved all the examples he gives in this book and his comparison to obesity/carbs to lung cancer/cigarettes.

What did you all think of his mentioning Oprah? Wonder what the Oprah-camp will do with that? Hope they have him on the show!!

you described it much better than i could

i lol'd when i read the Oprah bit

[Looweewoo]

Originally Posted by Chasintrail

I'm hoping to find a book that deliveres the science of why fat and cholesterol do not cause heart disease and why statins are evil without the distractions of weight loss.

Enig's book is not that, but it's a excellent reference on fatty acids. While she does point out that some of the science is flawed, I didn't find it to be a particularly strong or clear statement about the myths of dietary fat.

[CindyCRNA]

Originally Posted by fawn

Tamara, do you know about the October 2009 study out of Duke University? Here it is for your reference. Maybe you can laminate it You know, the statin subject.......I have a client right now who is scared to death to talk to his Dr. about discontinuing his meds......he claims it's because he doesn't want to die of a heart attack like his father did. Well, his father was a raging alcoholic for many years and lived on pub food his entire adult life.......

Had I not changed my diet so many years ago, I would probably be in that category as well.

You might also do some research on the reason statins are prescribed. It's all about the insurance. It's structured so the file shows some form of medical treatment for abnormal readings to prevent suits later.

Also, IF you are going to take statins, you must take CoQ10 also or your risk of cancer and heart attack actually increase while on statins.

[leeloo]

I had pre-ordered it, and read (skimmed a lot) it over the last couple of days.

It's chock full of scientific info, which is good but not what I'm looking for right this minute - he's preaching to the choir for me when it comes to the science stuff . I was hoping for more of a "diet" book, which this is not.

But, maybe even better, the actual advice is dead simple, and is pretty much identical to Atkins DANDR Induction. So it helped reinforce for me that I'm on the right track in my eating plan.

I'm not sure I would buy it unless you're in the mood for scientific data & analysis instead of a more typical diet book, with a plan, recipes, etc.

[nonstickpam107]

I read it yesterday. Um..yeah...it's a little easier to comprehend...and it's something I 'could' show family members (who really need it)...but I think we should give the book, make sure they read it, and then when they say 'But...where's the diet?" We should just give them the ending part of 'what to eat'.

It will be as useful as allllllll the copies of Protein Power I've purchased and given away as gifts and stocking stuffers I suppose.

Pam

[BrightAngel]

Originally Posted by leeloo

I'm not sure I would buy it
unless you're in the mood for scientific data & analysis
instead of a more typical diet book, with a plan, recipes, etc.

This is a really, really special and uniquie book.
There are a million diet books out there, most of them with recipes.
Also there are many, many low-carb cookbooks out there.

The end of the book contains a generic low-carb food plan,
demonstrating a typical low-carb way of eating.

This book is special because it contains very convincing evidence that:

Carbs are the primary cause of obesity.
The solution to obesity is to greatly reduce and limit your carbs.
Some people can have more carbs, some can have less carbs.
Eat as much fat and protein as it takes to satisfy your body,
and your body will begin working properly to regulate itself.

So....if that proposition is true...
Typical diet books won't be necessary.

[kat819]

I am so annoyed that our public library hasn't even ordered it yet. They can buy 150 copies of the latest Danielle Steele opus and not even one copy on order yet.

[twinsplusone]

Originally Posted by BrightAngel

This is a really, really special and uniquie book.
There are a million diet books out there, most of them with recipes.
Also there are many, many low-carb cookbooks out there.

The end of the book contains a generic low-carb food plan,
demonstrating a typical low-carb way of eating.

This book is special because it contains very convincing evidence that:

Carbs are the primary cause of obesity.
The solution to obesity is to greatly reduce and limit your carbs.
Some people can have more carbs, some can have less carbs.
Eat as much fat and protein as it takes to satisfy your body,
and your body will begin working properly to regulate itself.

So....if that proposition is true...
Typical diet books won't be necessary.

Bright Angel,

I totally agree with you! I love reading "diet" books and have made it through Good Calories Bad Calories at least twice. I Love Barry Groves Trick and Treat. I have read Cereal Killer several times also.

But Gary Taubes's new book is special. He really drives home the fact that overweight people eat more and have less energy BECAUSE they are overweight... and then tells us the science behind WHY we are overweight, again which makes us eat more and move less. It makes me so angry that my doctor and my government have lied to me for so long.
This book is also special because he makes it so easy to understand by comparing it to cigarettes. One example is how someone quitting smoking will feel crappy and need lots of will power when giving up smoking, but we never suggest to them that it is because your body is trying to tell you it needs cigarettes so you should just smoke "a little bit" or only smoke the "healthy ones". But that is common advise when someone is trying to quit carbs.

Maybe I am a slow learner but this book really made me realize eating lowcarb is NOT about losing weight. Eating lowcarb for me now is about resetting my metabolism. And then the weight loss and increased energy should follow.

Thank you Gary Taubes!!

[Karen925]

Originally Posted by BrightAngel

This is a really, really special and uniquie book.
There are a million diet books out there, most of them with recipes.
Also there are many, many low-carb cookbooks out there.

The end of the book contains a generic low-carb food plan,
demonstrating a typical low-carb way of eating.

This book is special because it contains very convincing evidence that:

Carbs are the primary cause of obesity.
The solution to obesity is to greatly reduce and limit your carbs.
Some people can have more carbs, some can have less carbs.
Eat as much fat and protein as it takes to satisfy your body,
and your body will begin working properly to regulate itself.

So....if that proposition is true...
Typical diet books won't be necessary.

The above highlighted part is what is most intriguing of all. I have not introduced myself, which I will rectify when I have a bit more time, but Bright Angel knows me and was instrumental in my tremendous and sustained weight loss of 64#, maintenance of 8+ months. During this past year of journaling, my calorie then carb information along with my reading gave me a platform to address my son's medical trauma. I had no idea at the time this information would become is relevant. I just wanted to lose weight.

My DS, 21, was diagnosed with Crohns on Jan 25, 2010. He was hospitalized with severe complications. My journey to low carb, however this is defined for the individual, has had me cross paths with the Specific Carbohydrate Diet among many other sources including Taubes and Dr. Lustig. I have read and watched everything associated with these men. My dearest hope is that his body will begin to work properly in a sustained manner.

Time will tell. However, we have the luxury that government officials do not have. Conducting a controlled experiment to determine outcomes for an individual. Officials must spend vast sums of money with rigorous controlls to determine a causation for large populations. Our family does not have this reasonable burden. We can closely observe over a period of time, carefully weighing and recording data, to determine if a factor is toxic or not. Hence my interest in the scale with nutritional data information displayed.

As I told DH, if these propositions are only 50% true, that would be a huge savings in both pain and money. DS meds before insurance is $5,000/mon, and we pay significant out of pocket $$. He missed quite a bit of work due to the disease over the holidays. He works part time for Geek Squad.

These books have the potential to be so much bigger than just weight loss.
Karen925

[GardenGirl639]

Originally Posted by CindyCRNA

Just curious. How is it any different from the others or does it just explain better?

I only read part of Good Calories, Bad Calories because while I understood it, I had a hard time really getting into it. I also had a hard time being able to discuss it with others because it was very scientific and I'm not much of a scientific "talker." I understand, but can't retell, if that makes sense. I would do well on a multiple choice test on the subject.

I like this book for two different reasons, one, while being scientific, it seems more "conversational" to me. It reads much faster. Great, great examples.

Two, I don't feel like I'm reading a "diet" book. IMO, it's more "WHY" we eat this way and not the daily "HOW".

This is exactly the type of book that works well for me. The principle becomes ingrained and the practice just naturally follows. I like to have a "why" for doing something and not just a list of dos and don'ts. For instance, "I don't want to eat that because it will make my blood sugar rise and affect my insulin" as opposed to , "I can't eat that because it's not on the list."

Again, I am not very far into the book but I can tell that I'm going to like it the more I read of it. This will definitely be a book I can finish.

[Mishka68]

I was excitedly telling my husband last night [while reading the book] how it's just a vicious cycle that the majority of this country is stuck in...

they eat carbs because that's the SAD and they're cheap and plentiful, and they gain weight...
the carbs turn on their appetite and make them want to eat even more carbs...so they gain more weight...
the carbs and extra weight make them feel sluggish, so they become more sedentary and then gain more weight...

It all makes sense, yet so many are still so resistant to the truth right in front of them.
My sister is still insisting that lowfat is the way to go...all the while her idol is Ina Garten and she makes her recipes all the time...and I say to her, "Have you looked at the Barefoot Contessa?" (not to knock her, but she's extremely overweight and unhealthy looking)

[sfmom]

I got my copy today and started reading it, what an amazing book, I could never get through GCBC. I am so glad he wrote this, it is going to help so many people because of how straightforward it is.

[steady]

I am only about a third into this book, but I am enamored by Taubes. I love him...he is a bit of a rebel, smart and sexy...hmmmm. I AM reading the book, not just fantasizing:blush:, but boy is this WAYYYY more up my alley than GCBC. Love it so far, because it is easy.

[Big_Al]

Originally Posted by CindyCRNA

Also, IF you are going to take statins, you must take CoQ10 also or your risk of cancer and heart attack actually increase while on statins.

My cardiologist was very adamant about that. Wasn't sure of the reason why at the time but he stressed heavily that I needed to take 200mg of CoQ10 every day.

Anyway ... all this talk about the book is killing me. I have it downloaded on my Kindle but was saving it for my next trip to Japan in a few weeks. Aaagh ... how am I going to hold off

[CindyCRNA]

Originally Posted by Big_Al

My cardiologist was very adamant about that. Wasn't sure of the reason why at the time but he stressed heavily that I needed to take 200mg of CoQ10 every day.

Anyway ... all this talk about the book is killing me. I have it downloaded on my Kindle but was saving it for my next trip to Japan in a few weeks. Aaagh ... how am I going to hold off

Statins lower your endogenous stores of CoQ10 to critical levels. CoQ10 is a major antioxidant so when it is dramatically lowered, your risk of heart attack and cancer go up.