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Old 03-19-2009, 12:47 PM   #331
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Coconut Oil (VCO) and the Microwave

I have recently read about the manifold benefits of coconut oil and am using it in my daily diet. Since I've been reading a lot about it on the web I have come across several (conflicting) reports/opinions that coconut should never be microwaved.

As far as I know, no CREDIBLE source (even the manufacturer/s) can explain exactly why VCO should not be microwaved. Bottles are labeled with "Do not microwave." Coconut oil is known to be very heat stable though it smokes when fried at high heat because of it's relatively low molecular weight.

Many people claim that microwaving "changes the chemical makeup of the oil" or it "destroys its healing properties" or "nutrients". But this makes no sense at all. A microwave simply heats up the water contained in food.

Sure there are people who claim microwaving any food is dangerous, but they are mostly people who don't understand how a microwave works or are paranoid.

Does anyone know of any studies or reports from a reliable source about this subject? Have I been wasting the oil I've been eating? Please help if you know.
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Old 03-19-2009, 12:53 PM   #332
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I know that I exploded my mini glass measuring cup cause it over heated and I couldn't tell till it was too late. It doesn't make boiling bubbles like water does But I don't believe that microwaving hurts it. I'd just use as short a time as possible. BOOM! Hahaha, Glass and oil everywhere I only do 15 seconds at a time now, and sometimes when I stir it the solid pieces left just melt into the rest.

BTW there doesn't have to be water in the food for it to get hot. Otherwise why would empty plates and glass get hot? No offense to believers, but I don't think there is harm. Not for the few seconds needed to warm it anyway.

This dude has a You tube video and he microwaved a glass bottle and eventually it melted. and exploded! I like explosions ( in someone else's appliances)
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:28 AM   #333
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Glass plates and glass in general is made up of silicon-oxygen bonds that have a large dielectric (dipole moment) due to the difference in electronegativity between silicon and oxygen.

Microwaves accelerate the motion of such molecules especially water.

If your plates are not made of glass and they get hot without you putting water on it first, then your microwave must be humid inside and the residual water (or the filth) is what is heating your plates. My microwave is pretty powerful and I cannot get a clean, dry plate to get hot or even warm to the touch.

This does not make microwaving inherently dangerous. If people use a microwave in a way that was not intended (putting metal, empty glassware in it etc.) it is just stupidity. Anyone can destroy a microwave if they want to. People point out that some nurse somewhere heated blood before giving it to a patient and that the microwave process caused the death. This is so stupid I cannot stop laughing about it. It is proof of nothing except the incompetence of the nurse. If you cook blood (whether in boiling water or a microwave) it denatures the proteins and causes the cells to burst. It is no longer whole blood. It is just useless protein soup.

The only thing that microwaving food does to deplete nutrients in food (that is proven) is it reduces vitamin B12 content in food. B12 is an enormous molecule that contains the metal cobalt. It is not a stable molecule in food which is cooked in ANY fashion.

The oil you microwaved which splattered was caused by super-heating (you raised the temperature past the boiling point) of the oil. You way way way overcooked it, as you pointed out.

But I agree, I don't think it did anything to the coconut oil's chemical composition unless the oil through the manufacturing process was made alkaline (high pH) which would saponify the oil (make soap out of it). That's another story though.

Thanks for your reply!
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Old 03-20-2009, 09:15 AM   #334
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Glass plates and glass in general is made up of silicon-oxygen bonds that have a large dielectric (dipole moment) due to the difference in electronegativity between silicon and oxygen.

Microwaves accelerate the motion of such molecules especially water.

If your plates are not made of glass and they get hot without you putting water on it first, then your microwave must be humid inside and the residual water (or the filth) is what is heating your plates. My microwave is pretty powerful and I cannot get a clean, dry plate to get hot or even warm to the touch.

This does not make microwaving inherently dangerous. If people use a microwave in a way that was not intended (putting metal, empty glassware in it etc.) it is just stupidity. Anyone can destroy a microwave if they want to. People point out that some nurse somewhere heated blood before giving it to a patient and that the microwave process caused the death. This is so stupid I cannot stop laughing about it. It is proof of nothing except the incompetence of the nurse. If you cook blood (whether in boiling water or a microwave) it denatures the proteins and causes the cells to burst. It is no longer whole blood. It is just useless protein soup.

The only thing that microwaving food does to deplete nutrients in food (that is proven) is it reduces vitamin B12 content in food. B12 is an enormous molecule that contains the metal cobalt. It is not a stable molecule in food which is cooked in ANY fashion.

The oil you microwaved which splattered was caused by super-heating (you raised the temperature past the boiling point) of the oil. You way way way overcooked it, as you pointed out.

But I agree, I don't think it did anything to the coconut oil's chemical composition unless the oil through the manufacturing process was made alkaline (high pH) which would saponify the oil (make soap out of it). That's another story though.

Thanks for your reply!
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:20 PM   #335
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I'M NEW TO THIS SITE. IS ANYONE OUT THERE GLUTON SENSITIVE AND CARB DIETING. I USE VCO EVERYDAY. THANKS
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:00 AM   #336
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AAAAAHHHH!!

Mountain Rose is Out of coconut oil!

guess I better shop around again.
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Old 07-04-2009, 09:05 PM   #337
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Old 07-05-2009, 03:58 PM   #338
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Hello, does any one have the recipe for the PBD's(Peanut Butter Delights)? I used to make it all the time but haven't in a while and forgot the recipe. My daughter in law is pregnant and has gestational diabetes and I want to make her something sweet for her cravings.

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Old 08-26-2009, 11:41 AM   #340
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I'm adding my Chocolate Peanut Butter Candy recipe:

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Old 08-26-2009, 04:46 PM   #341
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