Best book to buy

pawcat73 · 08-26-2009, 10:41 AM

Hi all! Was just wonder your opinion on which Protein Power book would be the best to buy for someone who knows nothing about the program and has a tight budget. I can only afford to buy one of them, but want to learn as much as I can about it. Thanks!

donia · 08-26-2009, 11:16 AM

Have you checked Ebay? I bought the 30 day plan, a carb counter and The Protein Power Lifeplan : A New Comprehensive Blueprint all for about $17 with shipping. I read the 30 day plan already and I'm in the process of reading the more comprehensive one.

jeaniem · 08-26-2009, 11:19 AM

Personally I am holding off for the Eades new book due out Sept 8. If I wanted one before then I would go for the lifeplan book. I believe but not 100% sure that Eades changed their stance on saturated fats in this edition.

pawcat73 · 08-26-2009, 11:37 AM

yeah I think I might wait then too if it is coming out so soon. Maybe take it out from the library when it comes out.

lynnport · 08-26-2009, 06:02 PM

I love Protein Power. You can preorder the new book on Amazon.

Tyrone Bill · 09-02-2009, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lynnport

I love Protein Power. You can preorder the new book on Amazon.

Yep got mine ordered already.

Sunny7 · 09-03-2009, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lynnport

I love Protein Power. You can preorder the new book on Amazon.

What is the name of the new book. hope my barnes and noble will have it.

SlowMovingWoman · 09-06-2009, 08:28 AM

<<<What is the name of the new book. hope my barnes and noble will have it.>>>

The name is "The 6-Week Cure for the Middle-Aged Middle". Sounds like this book will
be directed towards older people. Younger people might want to try the Protein Power
book although I am sure there will be tips in the new one anyone could use.

Sunny7 · 09-06-2009, 09:36 AM

Thanks for the info, will probably get it. i am sure its a interesting read

BlueTopaz · 09-09-2009, 09:19 AM

Hi everyone!

May I jump in? Ironically, just yesterday, I bought the Protein Power Lifeplan and the Slow Burn exercise book co-written by Eades and a body builder. I didn't know there was another newer book!!! I'll have to check it out.

BTW: I bought the the white book "Protein Power" and it is a good read and good recipe source for the beginners. Actually I've found that doing Protein Power works faster to lose the weight than Atkins and without the side effects of 20g Induction.

When I was at a plateau, it was Protein Power that got me back on track within a week. How? I don't know...but apparently I need a little bit more carbs than 20 g a day. Now I'm going through the whole phase part and adding gym work to the equation.

Have a great day!

SlowMovingWoman · 09-09-2009, 11:03 AM

Linda, I think you will be glad you got the Life plan book. Both it and the regular Protein
Power book are a better bet. I sat in the bookstore and looked at the new book and
found it complicated, and with requirements I would never do. For instance give up caffeine
and any alcohol for the first eight weeks. Also recommends using a protein powder and
making a drink from it, again something I wouldn't do. I suggest all take a good look at
the book before buying it. Unlike me it could be just right for you. Just giving my two
cents worth. (SMW) SlowMovingWoman

BlueTopaz · 09-09-2009, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowMovingWoman

Linda, I think you will be glad you got the Life plan book. Both it and the regular Protein
Power book are a better bet. I sat in the bookstore and looked at the new book and
found it complicated, and with requirements I would never do. For instance give up caffeine
and any alcohol for the first eight weeks. Also recommends using a protein powder and
making a drink from it, again something I wouldn't do. I suggest all take a good look at
the book before buying it. Unlike me it could be just right for you. Just giving my two
cents worth. (SMW) SlowMovingWoman

Thanks SMW: No caffeine or adult drinks???? Nahhhh!

It's what keeps me sane enough to DIET!

Laura in Arizona · 09-15-2009, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowMovingWoman

Linda, I think you will be glad you got the Life plan book. Both it and the regular Protein
Power book are a better bet. I sat in the bookstore and looked at the new book and
found it complicated, and with requirements I would never do. For instance give up caffeine
and any alcohol for the first eight weeks. Also recommends using a protein powder and
making a drink from it, again something I wouldn't do. I suggest all take a good look at
the book before buying it. Unlike me it could be just right for you. Just giving my two
cents worth. (SMW) SlowMovingWoman

If the new book you are referring to is The 6 week cure, it is only a 6 week program? The first two weeks you give up alcohol and caffeine and do 3 shakes with a meal. This first phase is to clear out your liver. Then the next 2 weeks you can add some back in and instead of shakes you now eat meat, fish, poultry to supply plenty of protein to preserve lean muscle mass but the carbs are restricted to keep insulin levels low. Then weeks 5 and 6 you add back more carbs, alcohol and caffeine if desired.

While I would not normally "diet" by using shakes, this program is very specifically tailored to target visceral fat - the kind that is dangerous. He stated unequivocally that if you have visceral fat, you also have fat in your liver. A very bad thing.

I would not get this new book to be my only book for the long haul. Although if you want to lose more weight they say you can cycle through the program but in my thinking your still going to need a good low carb book to follow. I agree with you SMW in that I like the Lifeplan book best (but I have all of them).

BlueTopaz · 09-16-2009, 12:19 PM

I just receive the LifePlan book and have had their book Protein Power book. I am 3/4 of the way thru it. They have alot of medical reasons and provide test studies to back up what they are saying.

I also just received and read the Eades endoresed and co-authors of The Slow Burn for people that are into fitness that can be peared down to 1/2 hr a week using a slow method of weight machines or a home version of using weights. Cardio is useless to the fitness author which suits me fine. I am going to try these principals. I already belong to a gym for 4 months and nothing much is changing. Higher weights - slow and easy motion in lifting and less reps to Failure is key. Can't wait to start.

The only viseral fat I battle with is my thighs. I don't have a big belly and fall into the pear shape: weight falls in my hips, thighs and butt. So, I'll skip this newest book and work on the last two.

BlueTopaz · 09-17-2009, 05:43 AM

Just completed the Protein Power LifePlan book - loved it! A lot of information and updated research that is compellilng! It's laid out well with food charts of carb grams and even the calculation of your protein needs are in a chart instead of hand-calculating - which I found daunting and my numbers didn't make sense to the examples in their previous book. Now I'm sure of what my number should be.

Interesting facts about IRON. Magnesium has been my favorite supplement and they devote a chapter on that and makes me love magnesium even more.

I decided to start out being an Hedonist since I am within my weight for my age but I need to correct my oversensitive insulin response. Having gestation diabetes puts me at a 50% risk of Type II diabetes later. I know that when I over do carbs, I am ravenously hungry all the time and gain water weight like there's no tomorrow. They explain that insulin is responsible for your kidney's holding water and salt and when your body doesn't demand insulin - your kidney's will FLUSH out the water. It makes perfect sense to me. I had a A-ha moment when I read that. No other book could explain to me why I gain water when I eat too many carbs. They do.

I hope we can keep this board going and I am not going to be takling to myself. Join in peoples!

Sunny7 · 09-17-2009, 07:10 AM

Just picked up the new book yesterday. i thumbed through it, i see it has a lot of recipes also

Laura in Arizona · 09-17-2009, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitedov1208

Just completed the Protein Power LifePlan book - loved it! ...

I hope we can keep this board going and I am not going to be takling to myself. Join in peoples!

It is by far my favorite book as well. I have had to get 4 copies because I keep passing it out to people to read. It was a real eye-opener for me.

Keep "talking", at least I will be listening. When I first joined LCF I came here but there did not seem to be a whole lot happening so don't stop by often. Maybe we can resurrect it?

lilsuzi · 09-17-2009, 09:31 PM

Hi,
Wanted to tell you i read your post and went right to amazon.com and ordered this book! I am looking forward to this as i am in 47 and have the middle n lower age spread now! No diets have really helped me like they use to...thank you

lynnport · 09-17-2009, 10:50 PM

I'm going to stick with PPLifePlan. Not impressed with the new book. 3 shakes a day and one meal feels too much like a gimmick. I'd rather it be a "Lifeplan" than a quick fix. I think I need to tighten up my 40 carbs and up my exercise a little. I wish I hadn't ordered/read the new book... It left me a little disappointed in the Eades' philosophy.

BlueTopaz · 09-18-2009, 05:07 AM

Yeah, Laura - let's keep the thread going or we can start a new one just on PP LifePlan!

The newest book reminds me of the Slimfast way and that doesn't thrill me. I can see a shake for breakfast now and then for eggs get boring but 2x a day? Years ago when I did Slimfast for a week, I was so weak, all I wanted to do is sleep. I was miserable and didn't lose weight. Then, I heard that Slimfast is hard on the kidney's. So, I'm surprised the new Eades book is going that direction or maybe it's temporary. I'm not bothering buying the book but I would be curious to see what results others are having on it.

I'm down to 142 lbs as of this morning. Not eating breakfast this morning for I am going to the gym before work and doing that SLOW BURN that Eades and Frederick Hahn co-wrote. In PP Lifeplan, they recommend working out on an empty stomach. That's fine with me for I was never a breakfast person. I know skipping breakfast is not recommeded but sometimes I have a mid morning snack until lunch. My appetite kicks in from afternoon to evening whether I eat breakfast or not.

How everyone's day going? IT FRIDAY !

vanilla_latte · 09-18-2009, 11:49 AM

Hey all,

I have just about decided to switch from Atkins (did 3 weeks of Induction) to PPLP. I have the book as I tried PP late last year for about 2-3 months. Didn't lose a darn thing unless 2-3 lbs. count.

Thought Atkins might be better for me, but I didn't lose much just a few on induction. I am missing things that I know I can eventually have on Atkins, but what can I say - I want them now!

PP has always appealed to me more than Atkins. I was on the Atkins BB one day and was blown away by the before/after pics, hence I gave Atkins a go (again). I feel so much better eating lc, but the weight loss is so slow if at all. I have a good 50 lbs. at least I'd like to lose so it's not like I'm close to goal.

I've always wished this forum was more active, too. So .. looking forward to PP'ing with you

and would love to see your menus.

BlueTopaz · 09-18-2009, 12:33 PM

Protein Power is like Atkins except more food choices, more carbs to start out with.

Actually I lose more on Protein Power than Atkins - which I thought was the cream of the crop.

I stick to 10 g carbs a meal - it allows me unavoidable cheats as long as the window closes quickly and I get back on 10g carbs a meal. Two other factors helps: I use their recommended nutrients and I drink more water and eat a snack before I go to bed - but only meat - no carbs after supper.

I am doing their LifePlan - 10 carbs 3x a day - Hedonist style. My organic choices are slim and few due to our State being low in organic farming in fresh meats and veggies.

The thing is, Protein is meant to "correct" insulin disorders and eventually you'll figure out your right carb/protein count to either lose weight or maintain. A bit escalerated than Atkins.

vanilla_latte · 09-21-2009, 12:30 PM

I'm a Hedonist, too. It's all I can do to make sure my carb/proteins are okay for the day without having to go looking for organic things!

I aim for 7-10 as I need a couple of snacks (my boss is an early lunch eater, so by mid-afternoon I need a piece of cheese or something).

Good to hear you lost better on PP than Atkins. PP really is more appealing and hope I see some success on it this time.

BlueTopaz · 09-22-2009, 11:36 AM

Yeah, who would know? Having a little bit more carbs seems to work. Less that 30 carbs a day I get muscle cramps and general crankiness.

Be sure you take a high potency multi-vitamin and magnesium works wonders as Protein Power Lifeplan advocates. I have found that miracle supplement years ago when I was having chronic tension headaches and I couldn't take Excedrin anymore. That was the ticket.

vanilla_latte · 09-22-2009, 12:51 PM

I take a plethora of vitamins! Calcium, biotin, potassium, multi-vitamin, magnesium (take 2-3 at night to help me sleep), chromium picolinate, CLA/GLA mix. I should have fat sliding off onto the floor!

BlueTopaz · 09-22-2009, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanilla_latte

I take a plethora of vitamins! Calcium, biotin, potassium, multi-vitamin, magnesium (take 2-3 at night to help me sleep), chromium picolinate, CLA/GLA mix. I should have fat sliding off onto the floor!

Good Girl!

All diets restrict in one form or another so we must supplement where we may be deficient. Even if we tried to eat all the foods (without dieting) to get all our RDA's on vitamins/minerals - it would be too much food to eat. Our food supply doesn't have the nutrients in them like in our parent's day. The soils are depleted in minerals like magnesium. The pesticides are destroying them too.

And so, we do what we can do to counteract against all of that.

vanilla_latte · 09-23-2009, 12:39 PM

Yep! Sometimes I wish I had a little chute that I could just stick in my mouth and throw all the pills in at once! I take a few after eating lunch and the rest after dinner or at bedtime.

Doing a shake day today as I had a little honey tree meal last night. Had shakes for breakfast and lunch, will have a usual meal at dinner.

BlueTopaz · 09-24-2009, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanilla_latte

Yep! Sometimes I wish I had a little chute that I could just stick in my mouth and throw all the pills in at once! I take a few after eating lunch and the rest after dinner or at bedtime.

Doing a shake day today as I had a little honey tree meal last night. Had shakes for breakfast and lunch, will have a usual meal at dinner.

I wish I liked shakes - tried them w/Whey Protein and different flavorings. I never liked regular milk shakes before I started dieting. I even tried the egg creams which were worst. I could stand putting whey protein in my coffee in the morning and using my magic bullet to blend.

I really don't like to eat breakfast at all. Sometimes I force myself because everyone says it's the best meal of the day. I get hungry from 1:00 - bedtime. Eating breakfast doesn't slow my eating for the rest of the day like it's supposed to do.

vanilla_latte · 09-29-2009, 08:34 AM

Oh my, I love egg creams. Have one on the way to work in the morning. Pumpkin and chocolate peanut butter are my favs.

Heck, if you don't like breakfast I wouldn't worry about it. I think you should go with what your body is telling you and not force it. I've read many differing views on whether breakfast is all that. Many people do fine without it.

Well, I can't say I'm doing PPLP specifically. Still eating lc, just - honestly - sick and tired of counting this and that and how much I'm getting at each meal. I'm about ready to just eat lc and when I'm hungry. What I'm eating keeps me around the 30-40 ECC carbs anyway. I guess I better change my plan to just "low carb" lol.

BlueTopaz · 09-29-2009, 04:26 PM

Vanilla Latte (love that Avi!)

I'm not exactly on plan either - some days yes - some days not. I had some events that deterred me lately. I'm at least getting the bugs out of my system before I go totally serious and obsessive!

I can eat around 10:00 a little something - perhaps I'll chose 10 carbs of fruit so it's doable.

I would love to lose 10 lbs by my 50th birthday (12/8) !!!

08-26-2009, 10:41 AM	#1
pawcat73 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 71 Gallery: pawcat73 Stats: 336.4/258.9/145 WOE: Low Carb - my style Start Date: 8/19/2009	Best book to buy Hi all! Was just wonder your opinion on which Protein Power book would be the best to buy for someone who knows nothing about the program and has a tight budget. I can only afford to buy one of them, but want to learn as much as I can about it. Thanks!

09-09-2009, 09:19 AM	#10
BlueTopaz Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NE PA Posts: 5,085 Gallery: BlueTopaz Stats: 160/156/140 WOE: whatever works Start Date: 10 years ago - Height 5' 7"	Hi everyone! May I jump in? Ironically, just yesterday, I bought the Protein Power Lifeplan and the Slow Burn exercise book co-written by Eades and a body builder. I didn't know there was another newer book!!! I'll have to check it out. BTW: I bought the the white book "Protein Power" and it is a good read and good recipe source for the beginners. Actually I've found that doing Protein Power works faster to lose the weight than Atkins and without the side effects of 20g Induction. When I was at a plateau, it was Protein Power that got me back on track within a week. How? I don't know...but apparently I need a little bit more carbs than 20 g a day. Now I'm going through the whole phase part and adding gym work to the equation. Have a great day! __________________ Blue Topaz Last edited by BlueTopaz; 09-09-2009 at 09:19 AM.. Reason: typo

09-17-2009, 09:31 PM	#18
lilsuzi Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: ny Posts: 42 Gallery: lilsuzi WOE: lc-vlc Start Date: 9/14/09	protein power book Hi, Wanted to tell you i read your post and went right to amazon.com and ordered this book! I am looking forward to this as i am in 47 and have the middle n lower age spread now! No diets have really helped me like they use to...thank you

09-18-2009, 11:49 AM	#21
vanilla_latte Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my happy place! Posts: 1,615 Gallery: vanilla_latte Stats: Weigh/Too/Much! WOE: LC/JUDDD Start Date: Oh, ya know..every morning!	Hey all, I have just about decided to switch from Atkins (did 3 weeks of Induction) to PPLP. I have the book as I tried PP late last year for about 2-3 months. Didn't lose a darn thing unless 2-3 lbs. count. Thought Atkins might be better for me, but I didn't lose much just a few on induction. I am missing things that I know I can eventually have on Atkins, but what can I say - I want them now! PP has always appealed to me more than Atkins. I was on the Atkins BB one day and was blown away by the before/after pics, hence I gave Atkins a go (again). I feel so much better eating lc, but the weight loss is so slow if at all. I have a good 50 lbs. at least I'd like to lose so it's not like I'm close to goal. I've always wished this forum was more active, too. So .. looking forward to PP'ing with you and would love to see your menus. __________________ *-vanilla* Best excuse-bustin' "diet" book - "... then just stay fat." - by Shannon Sorrels Last edited by vanilla_latte; 09-18-2009 at 11:51 AM.. Reason: addition

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08-26-2009, 11:16 AM	#2
donia Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Central Texas Posts: 658 Gallery: donia Stats: (HW 375 in 2004) 320(loaded to 327)/303/250 5'3" WOE: HCG Start Date: January 4th, 2010	Have you checked Ebay? I bought the 30 day plan, a carb counter and The Protein Power Lifeplan : A New Comprehensive Blueprint all for about $17 with shipping. I read the 30 day plan already and I'm in the process of reading the more comprehensive one.

08-26-2009, 11:19 AM	#3
jeaniem Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6,197 Gallery: jeaniem Stats: 166 /146.6/? 5'1.5 WOE: lc-ish	Personally I am holding off for the Eades new book due out Sept 8. If I wanted one before then I would go for the lifeplan book. I believe but not 100% sure that Eades changed their stance on saturated fats in this edition.

08-26-2009, 11:37 AM	#4
pawcat73 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 71 Gallery: pawcat73 Stats: 336.4/258.9/145 WOE: Low Carb - my style Start Date: 8/19/2009	yeah I think I might wait then too if it is coming out so soon. Maybe take it out from the library when it comes out.

08-26-2009, 06:02 PM	#5
lynnport Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Diego,CA Posts: 249 Gallery: lynnport	I love Protein Power. You can preorder the new book on Amazon.

09-06-2009, 08:28 AM	#8
SlowMovingWoman Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 264 Gallery: SlowMovingWoman WOE: Lower carbs, smarter carbs & watch how much I eat Start Date: Have lost 13 pounds from my highest weight	<<<What is the name of the new book. hope my barnes and noble will have it.>>> The name is "The 6-Week Cure for the Middle-Aged Middle". Sounds like this book will be directed towards older people. Younger people might want to try the Protein Power book although I am sure there will be tips in the new one anyone could use.

09-06-2009, 09:36 AM	#9
Sunny7 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,459 Gallery: Sunny7	Thanks for the info, will probably get it. i am sure its a interesting read

09-09-2009, 11:03 AM	#11
SlowMovingWoman Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 264 Gallery: SlowMovingWoman WOE: Lower carbs, smarter carbs & watch how much I eat Start Date: Have lost 13 pounds from my highest weight	Linda, I think you will be glad you got the Life plan book. Both it and the regular Protein Power book are a better bet. I sat in the bookstore and looked at the new book and found it complicated, and with requirements I would never do. For instance give up caffeine and any alcohol for the first eight weeks. Also recommends using a protein powder and making a drink from it, again something I wouldn't do. I suggest all take a good look at the book before buying it. Unlike me it could be just right for you. Just giving my two cents worth. (SMW) SlowMovingWoman

09-16-2009, 12:19 PM	#14
BlueTopaz Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NE PA Posts: 5,085 Gallery: BlueTopaz Stats: 160/156/140 WOE: whatever works Start Date: 10 years ago - Height 5' 7"	I just receive the LifePlan book and have had their book Protein Power book. I am 3/4 of the way thru it. They have alot of medical reasons and provide test studies to back up what they are saying. I also just received and read the Eades endoresed and co-authors of The Slow Burn for people that are into fitness that can be peared down to 1/2 hr a week using a slow method of weight machines or a home version of using weights. Cardio is useless to the fitness author which suits me fine. I am going to try these principals. I already belong to a gym for 4 months and nothing much is changing. Higher weights - slow and easy motion in lifting and less reps to Failure is key. Can't wait to start. The only viseral fat I battle with is my thighs. I don't have a big belly and fall into the pear shape: weight falls in my hips, thighs and butt. So, I'll skip this newest book and work on the last two.

09-17-2009, 05:43 AM	#15
BlueTopaz Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NE PA Posts: 5,085 Gallery: BlueTopaz Stats: 160/156/140 WOE: whatever works Start Date: 10 years ago - Height 5' 7"	Just completed the Protein Power LifePlan book - loved it! A lot of information and updated research that is compellilng! It's laid out well with food charts of carb grams and even the calculation of your protein needs are in a chart instead of hand-calculating - which I found daunting and my numbers didn't make sense to the examples in their previous book. Now I'm sure of what my number should be. Interesting facts about IRON. Magnesium has been my favorite supplement and they devote a chapter on that and makes me love magnesium even more. I decided to start out being an Hedonist since I am within my weight for my age but I need to correct my oversensitive insulin response. Having gestation diabetes puts me at a 50% risk of Type II diabetes later. I know that when I over do carbs, I am ravenously hungry all the time and gain water weight like there's no tomorrow. They explain that insulin is responsible for your kidney's holding water and salt and when your body doesn't demand insulin - your kidney's will FLUSH out the water. It makes perfect sense to me. I had a A-ha moment when I read that. No other book could explain to me why I gain water when I eat too many carbs. They do. I hope we can keep this board going and I am not going to be takling to myself. Join in peoples!

09-17-2009, 07:10 AM	#16
Sunny7 Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,459 Gallery: Sunny7	Just picked up the new book yesterday. i thumbed through it, i see it has a lot of recipes also

09-17-2009, 10:50 PM	#19
lynnport Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Diego,CA Posts: 249 Gallery: lynnport	I'm going to stick with PPLifePlan. Not impressed with the new book. 3 shakes a day and one meal feels too much like a gimmick. I'd rather it be a "Lifeplan" than a quick fix. I think I need to tighten up my 40 carbs and up my exercise a little. I wish I hadn't ordered/read the new book... It left me a little disappointed in the Eades' philosophy.

09-18-2009, 05:07 AM	#20
BlueTopaz Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NE PA Posts: 5,085 Gallery: BlueTopaz Stats: 160/156/140 WOE: whatever works Start Date: 10 years ago - Height 5' 7"	Yeah, Laura - let's keep the thread going or we can start a new one just on PP LifePlan! The newest book reminds me of the Slimfast way and that doesn't thrill me. I can see a shake for breakfast now and then for eggs get boring but 2x a day? Years ago when I did Slimfast for a week, I was so weak, all I wanted to do is sleep. I was miserable and didn't lose weight. Then, I heard that Slimfast is hard on the kidney's. So, I'm surprised the new Eades book is going that direction or maybe it's temporary. I'm not bothering buying the book but I would be curious to see what results others are having on it. I'm down to 142 lbs as of this morning. Not eating breakfast this morning for I am going to the gym before work and doing that SLOW BURN that Eades and Frederick Hahn co-wrote. In PP Lifeplan, they recommend working out on an empty stomach. That's fine with me for I was never a breakfast person. I know skipping breakfast is not recommeded but sometimes I have a mid morning snack until lunch. My appetite kicks in from afternoon to evening whether I eat breakfast or not. How everyone's day going? IT FRIDAY !

09-18-2009, 12:33 PM	#22
BlueTopaz Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NE PA Posts: 5,085 Gallery: BlueTopaz Stats: 160/156/140 WOE: whatever works Start Date: 10 years ago - Height 5' 7"	Protein Power is like Atkins except more food choices, more carbs to start out with. Actually I lose more on Protein Power than Atkins - which I thought was the cream of the crop. I stick to 10 g carbs a meal - it allows me unavoidable cheats as long as the window closes quickly and I get back on 10g carbs a meal. Two other factors helps: I use their recommended nutrients and I drink more water and eat a snack before I go to bed - but only meat - no carbs after supper. I am doing their LifePlan - 10 carbs 3x a day - Hedonist style. My organic choices are slim and few due to our State being low in organic farming in fresh meats and veggies. The thing is, Protein is meant to "correct" insulin disorders and eventually you'll figure out your right carb/protein count to either lose weight or maintain. A bit escalerated than Atkins.

09-21-2009, 12:30 PM	#23
vanilla_latte Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my happy place! Posts: 1,615 Gallery: vanilla_latte Stats: Weigh/Too/Much! WOE: LC/JUDDD Start Date: Oh, ya know..every morning!	I'm a Hedonist, too. It's all I can do to make sure my carb/proteins are okay for the day without having to go looking for organic things! I aim for 7-10 as I need a couple of snacks (my boss is an early lunch eater, so by mid-afternoon I need a piece of cheese or something). Good to hear you lost better on PP than Atkins. PP really is more appealing and hope I see some success on it this time.

09-22-2009, 11:36 AM	#24
BlueTopaz Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NE PA Posts: 5,085 Gallery: BlueTopaz Stats: 160/156/140 WOE: whatever works Start Date: 10 years ago - Height 5' 7"	Yeah, who would know? Having a little bit more carbs seems to work. Less that 30 carbs a day I get muscle cramps and general crankiness. Be sure you take a high potency multi-vitamin and magnesium works wonders as Protein Power Lifeplan advocates. I have found that miracle supplement years ago when I was having chronic tension headaches and I couldn't take Excedrin anymore. That was the ticket.

09-22-2009, 12:51 PM	#25
vanilla_latte Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my happy place! Posts: 1,615 Gallery: vanilla_latte Stats: Weigh/Too/Much! WOE: LC/JUDDD Start Date: Oh, ya know..every morning!	I take a plethora of vitamins! Calcium, biotin, potassium, multi-vitamin, magnesium (take 2-3 at night to help me sleep), chromium picolinate, CLA/GLA mix. I should have fat sliding off onto the floor!

09-23-2009, 12:39 PM	#27
vanilla_latte Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my happy place! Posts: 1,615 Gallery: vanilla_latte Stats: Weigh/Too/Much! WOE: LC/JUDDD Start Date: Oh, ya know..every morning!	Yep! Sometimes I wish I had a little chute that I could just stick in my mouth and throw all the pills in at once! I take a few after eating lunch and the rest after dinner or at bedtime. Doing a shake day today as I had a little honey tree meal last night. Had shakes for breakfast and lunch, will have a usual meal at dinner.

09-29-2009, 08:34 AM	#29
vanilla_latte Major LCF Poster! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my happy place! Posts: 1,615 Gallery: vanilla_latte Stats: Weigh/Too/Much! WOE: LC/JUDDD Start Date: Oh, ya know..every morning!	Oh my, I love egg creams. Have one on the way to work in the morning. Pumpkin and chocolate peanut butter are my favs. Heck, if you don't like breakfast I wouldn't worry about it. I think you should go with what your body is telling you and not force it. I've read many differing views on whether breakfast is all that. Many people do fine without it. Well, I can't say I'm doing PPLP specifically. Still eating lc, just - honestly - sick and tired of counting this and that and how much I'm getting at each meal. I'm about ready to just eat lc and when I'm hungry. What I'm eating keeps me around the 30-40 ECC carbs anyway. I guess I better change my plan to just "low carb" lol.

09-29-2009, 04:26 PM	#30
BlueTopaz Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NE PA Posts: 5,085 Gallery: BlueTopaz Stats: 160/156/140 WOE: whatever works Start Date: 10 years ago - Height 5' 7"	Vanilla Latte (love that Avi!) I'm not exactly on plan either - some days yes - some days not. I had some events that deterred me lately. I'm at least getting the bugs out of my system before I go totally serious and obsessive! I can eat around 10:00 a little something - perhaps I'll chose 10 carbs of fruit so it's doable. I would love to lose 10 lbs by my 50th birthday (12/8) !!!