Protein Power

moonstruck · 08-12-2006, 06:54 PM

I'm officially going to do Protein Power and am starting tomorrow. However, I'm carrying out the rest of our evening with Protein Power. I've been doing Weight Watchers off and on for the last several years and am currently reading the Protein Power book. My husband really feels that I should continue with Weight Watchers because I had lost 31 pounds on it four years ago, but I just feel so much better eating "real food" vs. the plastic garbage they make these days.

I used to eat fat-free cheese and it seems that if a couple extra molecules were added to it, it could be plastic.

When I eat low carb, it's pretty hard for me to overeat when I'm consuming protein-rich foods because they fill me up so much. I've been afraid to do Protein Power or any plan that doesn't involve counting points because I don't want to gain weight either. I do know how much to eat and since my husband does all the cooking and it so supportive, he makes it easy for me.

We just got back from Costco and I didn't get any frozen berries and I know they're allowed on Protein Power. Is frozen okay?

Darrow · 08-29-2006, 03:48 PM

Yes, frozen berries are okay. I had good results with protein power in 1999. I lost 40 pounds in approximately 3 months and used frozen berries as I live in Wyoming.

Protein Power really educated me, more so than Atkins or any other regarding the science of low-carb eating. I sincerely believe the key to any of our programs is to eat every 3 hours at a minimum...the metabolism will slow if you do and tell the brain you are starving...then hybernation starts and the plateau comes.

I had trouble eating all of my protein however, (and I'm a big girl) now I spread it throughout the day, rather than force feed myself during the regular eating times. I'm just on day 2...so can't really report anything to you, but want to wish you the best.

Shantony · 09-03-2006, 06:57 PM

I went to the library and I got the tape. I'm slightly intimidated. I have been reading up on SB, Schwarzein, Carbohydrate Addicts and Atkins. I did Atkins '72 and DANDR all summer. I hated every day. I just kept thinking of what I couldn't eat and I just became bored and weight loss was slow and my buddy Luvmykids (Heather) mentioned that she did Protein Power.

Before I can commit I have to see know all the basics of the plan. I agree with Low GI and Non starchy veggies and whole grains. Right now I'm doing a low carb version of South Beach because that plan so far has the most variety and choices and it's not too different from atkins and I can get my brain around it.

Protein power almost seems like SB. In fact I might be doing Protein Power now and not know it. Cause heather said about 30-40g of carbs per day and that's what I do now. I don't do fruit yet. Raising myself up from '72. I have added Hood Calorie Countdown milk (3g carb per cup) and one serving of whole grains per day. That's as about as brave as I have been and it put me at around 30g. I had some Lindt Chocolate to appease the TOM goddess and the kitchen sink and it put me at 40 g today.

So once I listen to the tape then I think I will be armed with enough knowledge to move confidently forward.

Shantony · 09-03-2006, 09:02 PM

Okay. So I'm listening to Protein Power Life Plan and reading the Carbohydrate Addict's Lifespan Program. They are good. Drs Eades believe in carbohydrate addiction.

They have helped me understand why I am losing slow. They said eventhough you are low carb, if you eat too many calories your body will not need to dip into fat stores to make glucose. It'll use what's in your blood stream. You're not storing them but you're not losing either. You're maintaining. When you get to goal you can eat alot more cals and maintain. But we need to create a slight deficit.

Luvmykidz · 09-03-2006, 09:42 PM

Subscribing.

PP is a wonderful plan if you stick to the program. I have done it before and already know what works for me, so this time around, I am a bit more relaxed.

I am still losing, feeling good and not at all deprived. It is important to remember that since no foods are automatically eliminated for you, you need to make responsible choices with your carbs.

Purrgirl · 09-04-2006, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Shantony

They have helped me understand why I am losing slow. They said eventhough you are low carb, if you eat too many calories your body will not need to dip into fat stores to make glucose. It'll use what's in your blood stream. You're not storing them but you're not losing either. You're maintaining. When you get to goal you can eat alot more cals and maintain. But we need to create a slight deficit.

I think every low carber that is struggling to lose should read this!

Shantony · 09-04-2006, 05:32 AM

Good Morning. I fell asleep on the audiobook. I left off on decreasing Omega 6 intake and increasing the Omega 3 intake so you can have healthy fat in the lipid layer of the cells instead of transfatty acid.

My understanding is that your body will use whatever fat it has available for your cells and if you you have too much omega 6 and transfatty acids then the body will pull them from the bloodstream and use them. We get enough omega 6 but not 3 so we have a deficit of omega 3. The problems come in when transfats are in the lipid layer and cause problems on the cellular level like cancers, dry skin, brittle hair with little lustre.

They said that you can get Omega 3 from salmon, mackeral, sardines and other cold water fish. Wild not farm raised. Problem with wild is that the big fish like salmon and makeral is that they eat the littler fish and toxins can build up in the fish and build up in the human who eats them. They say sardines in SARDINE Oil is best but sometimes hard to find. Next is sardines in olive oil or spring water. Don't eat them in Cottenseed or Soybean oil. Those are bad for you.

Still listening but they are making a lot of sense and the science is DEEP.

I will continue and summarize in a later post when I can put the fat issue in a nutshell/ summarize.

Hey Heather. Welcome to the thread. Always great to hear from you!

Shantony · 09-04-2006, 06:50 AM

Okay so I've said I'm "reading" two books at once because the kinda go together. Drs Heller author of The Carbohydrate Addict's Lifespan Program(husband and wife duo like Drs Eades).

Now both plans say that the Carb addict overproduces insulin whenever any amount of carbs are consumed. Over production of insulin overrides the feeling of fullness (saeity) in the brain. So you eat a little or alot of carbs and you never feel full and you just keep eating. You feel a compulsion to eat.

Drs Eades and Heller say that protein is pronounced and you will feel full when eating it. That's why you eat a high protein meal and feel full quick but then even the thought of carbs such as dessert immediately makes room in your mind to eat sweets.

Drs Heller say restrict carbs to control insulin response. Drs Eades say the same thing but go a step further and say you have to eat more fat but not any ole kind of fat, good fat including omega 3. They say restricting carb is not the full picture. It's part of it but the full picture is carb restriction, good fats which will help you lay off the carbs, and exercise.

Good stuff. I dont want to do CAD becuz I can't get down with the reward meal but I like the background info.

Darrow · 09-04-2006, 08:05 AM

i've enjoyed reading your posts Shantony. I have the Eades tapes too and am going to get them out again to review. I shouldn't blame CAD for my eating demise the first time around, cause I'm the one who fully rewarded myself...but it is to me like telling an alcoholic they can binge for 1 hour a day and it will be peachy. I also understand from other's posts that Dr. Heller revised her thoughts on this. For me...keeping my carbs at no more than 40 is keeping me on the path. Also, eating every 3 hours has kept me satisfied and commited. Today is day 8 with no cheats and down 5 pounds.

Shantony · 09-04-2006, 10:21 AM

Great Darrow!!!! WTG!!!!

I have a binge problem every now and again. Only time it flares up is when I feel deprived or my carbs are practically 0 for a while. Then something triggers and I snap and then it's....."Whoa Nelly! Ma get the kids!!!" At that point I'll eat anything sweet.

I just ran out and bought the Protein Power paperback from Barnes N Noble. I need to read the original book. So I'm beginning protein power and skimming CAD just for background and not plan. Then I'll finish listening to book two.

Well I went out and got caught in public hungry. I hate going to SAMs club hungry. Resisted all the samples and pulled into Wendys. Ordered a cheeseburger deluxe no ketchup and a diet coke. Threw the bread out and ate the flimsy insides. Got home and was still hungry. So I ate a piece of steak with Cream cheese on top. I've been craving cream cheese this week. It's putting me up in cals though. I'm trying to create the deficit.

Any who I ate it. It was either that or chocolate. I also bought diet cocoa mix and unsweetened whipped cream to fight the Choco monster. I thought it was better than Lindt Excellence 85% b/c I'll scarf that whole thing down.

Now Heather said that you could choose your own carbs to eat with your meals on PP. I'll add a tasty tidbit.

I'm coming to realize I'm a carb addict. I'm one of those lucky people who is catching the hard road. My body DOES NOT want to get thin. It want's to hold on to it's fat. But I say it's got to go so I'm fighting my body. I'm pulling off the earrings, taking off the shoes, smearing vaseline on my face and about to get down and dirty on my fat.

Just as Darrow said like an alcoholic. But I believe it was Schwarzbein, Eades or Heller who said that for a person addicted to carbs our bodies will produce insulin with real sugar or sugar like substances.......we will have the same cravings with artificial sweetners because the insulin receptors will respond to glucose and glucose like substances....

Like Heroin addicts are given methadone to ease the withdrawal symptoms....we can't use Splenda or Aspartame and I would venture to say saccharin because we Perceive it as sugar in our bodies. This is why some people don't lose while using Splenda or other artificial sweetners.

I'm a teacher and I learn globally (meaning I need to see the big picture and then I can pick out the smaller units) so by reading almost all the LC plans, now the pieces are falling together and I feel like my journey will be a better one because of it.

To Review. Today we have learned that the reasons why some people stall on the LC way of life are :

1. Too much fat floating around in the bloodstream and is readily available for the body to use. Create a slight deficit and your body will have to dip into the fat stores to make glucose.

2. In carb sensitive people, their bodies will create an insulin response to sugar/glucose and sugar-like substances. It doesn't matter that it's not real sugar but it's how the body perceives it.

For example, artificial estrogen from the "estrogen-like" plants. Soy is one such plant.

peachy · 09-04-2006, 11:47 AM

Hi -

I am a protein power girl, too. I just went on fitday because my weight seems to be going down so
s-l-o-w-l-y. I could really see where I was adding too many calories. Back to basics for me!

Shantony · 09-04-2006, 12:32 PM

Peachy!!!

Trying to make this a strong, knowledgeable thread. Please visit often and share more.

Luvmykidz · 09-04-2006, 06:25 PM

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2. In carb sensitive people, their bodies will create an insulin response to sugar/glucose and sugar-like substances. It doesn't matter that it's not real sugar but it's how the body perceives it.

Shay, you are doing great at bringing this info down to a "real people" level. I just wanted to add to point 2 that some people use sugar alcohols more efficiently than the manufactures claim.--Even those who are not carb addicts. Sugar alcohols DO affect blood sugar, and in turn cause an insulin response. 20g of SA that are supposed to act like 3 (this is on the label as 3 net carbs)can actually be fully utilized by those who are more sensitive to them. You could blow over half of your carb allotment with a sugar alcohol sweetened treat if you are one of these people.

In PP, NET carbs only refers to Total carbs minus FIBER.

I apoligize for the interruption. Back to your regularly scheduled program.

Shantony · 09-04-2006, 08:48 PM

Anytime Heather. We need you to add or clear things up when you get a chance.

I was just reading in the Carbohydrate Addict's Lifespan Program book that:

"If you are carbohydrate addicted and you have not been able to maintain success on other programs, your lack of success was not your fault! Chances are that the plan you attempted to follow was not designed to correct the cause of your weight gain and cravings.

In order for a program to help you lose weight and keep it off, it must correct the very cause of, and thus reduce, your cravings, weight, and many health-related risks. Feelings of deprivation, sacrifice, even the desire to cheat, are signs that a weight-loss plan has not corrected the cause of your eating or weight problems."

That little tidbit just moved me further along in my process to wholeness. I gotta go put that in my journal for future reference. Many others had condemned me for switching plans. Telling me and others to stop jumping ship. I switched becuz it wasn't working for me. There's a difference between losing weight and having it stay off and losing weight only to regain it next month.

Luvmykidz · 09-04-2006, 09:22 PM

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Many others had condemned me for switching plans. Telling me and others to stop jumping ship. I switched becuz it wasn't working for me. There's a difference between losing weight and having it stay off and losing weight only to regain it next month.

You are so right! I have noticed this, as well, and I am sure those who push others to stay on a plan only mean well. After all, the plan worked for them. It is possible they never consider you could be doing something that is not right for you.

The fact is that everyone is different. I am a believer in finding out what your plan is supposed to do to your body. If the plan matches your personal needs, you will have a good match. If not, there is NO shame in tweaking the program to personalize (even if it is not strictly 'by the book').

Start with a program that seems to suit your needs. Find out as much as you can, so you are familiar with the underlying principles. Apply them and stick with the written program as closely as possible for 3 or 4 weeks. Take note of how you feel, and if you make any weight or inch loss progress. Then, make adjustments accordingly, if necessary.

Each person is individual, and there is no such thing as a 'one size fits all' plan. Some plans are more adaptable than others, too, so a program like PP could be tweaked more than some others without having to totally scrap the whole thing and start over.

Shantony · 09-06-2006, 01:57 PM

Well I'm on board with PP. I"ll give it a month and see I see any results. I feel better. Not deprived at all.

Heather, I read that you shouldn't eat your carbs with breakfast if you are sensitive becuz sometimes you could get an insulin spike. So I've been starting carbs at lunch or for midmorning snack.

Did you see that?

Luvmykidz · 09-06-2006, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Shantony

Well I'm on board with PP. I"ll give it a month and see I see any results. I feel better. Not deprived at all.

Heather, I read that you shouldn't eat your carbs with breakfast if you are sensitive becuz sometimes you could get an insulin spike. So I've been starting carbs at lunch or for midmorning snack.

Did you see that?

I don't recall reading it, but it is often the way I eat anyway. Maybe I read it a long time ago and started doing it and just forgot where I learned....

I keep my brekky carbs pretty low, anyway.

peachy · 09-06-2006, 04:31 PM

Hi girls --

I lost a pound! Yeah! Only 20 more pounds to goal!

I try to balance my carbs all day. There is no way I could have fruit in the morning because it would make me crave all day!

greeniss · 09-06-2006, 04:43 PM

Alright, I just bought a used PP book on ebay for $3. Can't lose on that deal!

Shantony · 09-06-2006, 06:07 PM

LUCKY!!!! (in my best Napoleon Dynamite voice)

Shantony · 09-06-2006, 06:08 PM

WTG on your pound Peachy!!!

Okay so what have you been doing. Share, share, share!!!!

Shantony · 09-06-2006, 09:33 PM

DH and I have decided to not do wheat or flour. We ate two very small whole wheat wraps with ham & turkey and we felt sluggish, and woozy. Like we needed a nap right away.

Shantony · 09-06-2006, 09:33 PM

The little wraps only had 3 net carbs.

greeniss · 09-07-2006, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Shantony

LUCKY!!!! (in my best Napoleon Dynamite voice)

Hmmm...curious why those wraps made you two so sleepy.

Luvmykidz · 09-07-2006, 10:44 AM

Shay, it is possible you are sensitive to either gluten or soy. LC baked goods often have either or both. Wheat products always have gluten, even the regular kind.

Also, some lunch meats will have bacteria in them--You may have had a touch of food poisoning......especially if you felt nauseous.

Processed meats can have msg, as well, which makes me feel sleepy and kind of sick. I always feel that way after having Chinese food that I forgot to say "no MSG" when ordering.

peachy · 09-07-2006, 03:53 PM

Hi girls -- another healthy sunny beautiful day. I lost another half a pound today. I've been losing so slowly that it is a big suprise.

B - Protein Shake

L - Yogurt
Flax Granola
Roast Beef
Bleu Cheese dressing

D will be
Chicken breast
Asparagus

I also had coffee with half and half and Caramel DeVinci's. Yummy.

What is everyone eating?

Shantony · 09-07-2006, 04:36 PM

Evening Lovely Protein Power Gals!

Colonix Fiber
Paranil

B - 2 eggs, Scrambled, 1 slice American Cheese

MS - 3 Vlassic No Sugar Added Bread & Butter Pickle Spears, 1 cup Pork Rinds (Lime & Chile Flavor)

L - Kraft South Beach Diet Southwestern Chicken Wrap Kit (2 WW tortillas, tiny SF Jello, 1/4 c. grated Cheddar, tiny salsa, chicken breast chunks)

AS - 2 oz Roast Beef, 1 oz cheddar

D - 4 slices bacon, 3 soft boiled eggs, 2 sl LC WW toast, 1 pat parkay, 1/4 c. avocado

ES - SF Jello w/ SF whipped cream

I went a tad over 30 today. Will have to watch that bread or cheese. The bread is 5 net carbs per slice. It's called Nature's Own Wheat formulated for Low Carb Plans bread.

Totals:

1840 cals
122g fat (59%)
58g carbs (8%)
21g fiber
136g protein (31%)

Luvmykidz · 09-08-2006, 03:02 PM

Hi! I thought I would share what I ate for lunch today, in case anyone is looking for ideas on veggie dishes.

Stir Fried Cabbage

3c bagged coleslaw (shredded red and green cabbage plus carrots)

1 tsp coconut oil (or whatever you use)

1/4 to 1/2 packet low carb sweetener

1/16 teaspoon each of garlic powder and ginger powder

pinch of black pepper and salt to taste

Stir fry the cabbage mix in the oil over med-high heat for about 5 minutes (until cabbage starts to get soft but is still crisp). Add seasonings, taste and adjust if needed.

I figured the recipe is 1 serving. 6g net carbs 4g fiber 4.5g fat

It is really versatile. You can add a tablespoon of chopped green onion while stir frying. Or a splash of soy sauce. And you can also add slices of precooked, leftover chicken, beef, pork or shrimp.

I think it tastes very similar to egg roll filling.

Shantony · 09-08-2006, 09:30 PM

Today I worked all day and evening. I didnt eat all that healthy today.

B - Missed it

L - Domino's Pizza's 6 hot wings with drizzle of hot wing sauce, not breaded, 1 small thin slice of pepperoni pizza, 10 oz Pepsi Jazz

D - Applebee's Grilled Chipotle Chicken Tostada Salad w/ honey-lime vinegarette with half of corn tortilla crumbled on top

ES - Jello Snack w/ whipped cream

That's all I ate today. I didn't plan well and didn't pack a lunch.

Darrow · 09-09-2006, 07:19 AM

Hi Shantony,

I hope you have a better day today...full of rest, not work!

Today you will take care of yourself first. You're bright, powerful and equipped with the knowledge to nurture your body and spirit. Make everything else wait that might demand your immediate attention, because you are going to take care of yourself first...then the rest will fall into place.

Hi LuvmyKids,

The recipe for the cabbage sounds good...think I'll make it tomorrow with some chicken thrown in. Thanks for sharing.

08-12-2006, 06:54 PM	#1
moonstruck lavender and lace Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,259 Gallery: moonstruck Stats: 195.4/195.4/145 WOE: South Beach Start Date: 9/13/09	Protein Power I'm officially going to do Protein Power and am starting tomorrow. However, I'm carrying out the rest of our evening with Protein Power. I've been doing Weight Watchers off and on for the last several years and am currently reading the Protein Power book. My husband really feels that I should continue with Weight Watchers because I had lost 31 pounds on it four years ago, but I just feel so much better eating "real food" vs. the plastic garbage they make these days. I used to eat fat-free cheese and it seems that if a couple extra molecules were added to it, it could be plastic. When I eat low carb, it's pretty hard for me to overeat when I'm consuming protein-rich foods because they fill me up so much. I've been afraid to do Protein Power or any plan that doesn't involve counting points because I don't want to gain weight either. I do know how much to eat and since my husband does all the cooking and it so supportive, he makes it easy for me. We just got back from Costco and I didn't get any frozen berries and I know they're allowed on Protein Power. Is frozen okay? __________________ [COLOR=Purple]Stephanie 40 years-old 5'10" Wife and Mother Smoke-Free Since: January 1, 1999 "I can do today what others won't - so I can have tomorrow what others don't" [/COLOR] Last edited by moonstruck; 08-12-2006 at 06:56 PM..

09-03-2006, 06:57 PM	#3
Shantony Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 838 Gallery: Shantony Stats: 5' 2" -230/178/150 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: June 3, 2006	I went to the library and I got the tape. I'm slightly intimidated. I have been reading up on SB, Schwarzein, Carbohydrate Addicts and Atkins. I did Atkins '72 and DANDR all summer. I hated every day. I just kept thinking of what I couldn't eat and I just became bored and weight loss was slow and my buddy Luvmykids (Heather) mentioned that she did Protein Power. Before I can commit I have to see know all the basics of the plan. I agree with Low GI and Non starchy veggies and whole grains. Right now I'm doing a low carb version of South Beach because that plan so far has the most variety and choices and it's not too different from atkins and I can get my brain around it. Protein power almost seems like SB. In fact I might be doing Protein Power now and not know it. Cause heather said about 30-40g of carbs per day and that's what I do now. I don't do fruit yet. Raising myself up from '72. I have added Hood Calorie Countdown milk (3g carb per cup) and one serving of whole grains per day. That's as about as brave as I have been and it put me at around 30g. I had some Lindt Chocolate to appease the TOM goddess and the kitchen sink and it put me at 40 g today. So once I listen to the tape then I think I will be armed with enough knowledge to move confidently forward. __________________ ~Shay [COLOR="DarkGreen"]Restart Date: April 11, 2009[/COLOR] [COLOR="DarkRed"]Weight: 200/196/150[/COLOR] [COLOR=Navy]Mini Goal~ Lose 20lbs by June 8, 2009[/COLOR] [COLOR="DarkOrange"]Pounds lost to date: 4.....16 more to go![/COLOR]

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08-29-2006, 03:48 PM	#2
Darrow Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 61 Gallery: Darrow	Yes, frozen berries are okay. I had good results with protein power in 1999. I lost 40 pounds in approximately 3 months and used frozen berries as I live in Wyoming. Protein Power really educated me, more so than Atkins or any other regarding the science of low-carb eating. I sincerely believe the key to any of our programs is to eat every 3 hours at a minimum...the metabolism will slow if you do and tell the brain you are starving...then hybernation starts and the plateau comes. I had trouble eating all of my protein however, (and I'm a big girl) now I spread it throughout the day, rather than force feed myself during the regular eating times. I'm just on day 2...so can't really report anything to you, but want to wish you the best.

09-03-2006, 09:02 PM	#4
Shantony Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 838 Gallery: Shantony Stats: 5' 2" -230/178/150 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: June 3, 2006	Okay. So I'm listening to Protein Power Life Plan and reading the Carbohydrate Addict's Lifespan Program. They are good. Drs Eades believe in carbohydrate addiction. They have helped me understand why I am losing slow. They said eventhough you are low carb, if you eat too many calories your body will not need to dip into fat stores to make glucose. It'll use what's in your blood stream. You're not storing them but you're not losing either. You're maintaining. When you get to goal you can eat alot more cals and maintain. But we need to create a slight deficit.

09-03-2006, 09:42 PM	#5
Luvmykidz MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Right here Posts: 2,418 Gallery: Luvmykidz Stats: 165/baby due May'08/140 5'4" WOE: Low Carb hybrid Start Date: June 2006 after 4th baby	Subscribing. PP is a wonderful plan if you stick to the program. I have done it before and already know what works for me, so this time around, I am a bit more relaxed. I am still losing, feeling good and not at all deprived. It is important to remember that since no foods are automatically eliminated for you, you need to make responsible choices with your carbs.

09-04-2006, 05:32 AM	#7
Shantony Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 838 Gallery: Shantony Stats: 5' 2" -230/178/150 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: June 3, 2006	Good Morning. I fell asleep on the audiobook. I left off on decreasing Omega 6 intake and increasing the Omega 3 intake so you can have healthy fat in the lipid layer of the cells instead of transfatty acid. My understanding is that your body will use whatever fat it has available for your cells and if you you have too much omega 6 and transfatty acids then the body will pull them from the bloodstream and use them. We get enough omega 6 but not 3 so we have a deficit of omega 3. The problems come in when transfats are in the lipid layer and cause problems on the cellular level like cancers, dry skin, brittle hair with little lustre. They said that you can get Omega 3 from salmon, mackeral, sardines and other cold water fish. Wild not farm raised. Problem with wild is that the big fish like salmon and makeral is that they eat the littler fish and toxins can build up in the fish and build up in the human who eats them. They say sardines in SARDINE Oil is best but sometimes hard to find. Next is sardines in olive oil or spring water. Don't eat them in Cottenseed or Soybean oil. Those are bad for you. Still listening but they are making a lot of sense and the science is DEEP. I will continue and summarize in a later post when I can put the fat issue in a nutshell/ summarize. Hey Heather. Welcome to the thread. Always great to hear from you!

09-04-2006, 06:50 AM	#8
Shantony Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 838 Gallery: Shantony Stats: 5' 2" -230/178/150 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: June 3, 2006	Okay so I've said I'm "reading" two books at once because the kinda go together. Drs Heller author of The Carbohydrate Addict's Lifespan Program(husband and wife duo like Drs Eades). Now both plans say that the Carb addict overproduces insulin whenever any amount of carbs are consumed. Over production of insulin overrides the feeling of fullness (saeity) in the brain. So you eat a little or alot of carbs and you never feel full and you just keep eating. You feel a compulsion to eat. Drs Eades and Heller say that protein is pronounced and you will feel full when eating it. That's why you eat a high protein meal and feel full quick but then even the thought of carbs such as dessert immediately makes room in your mind to eat sweets. Drs Heller say restrict carbs to control insulin response. Drs Eades say the same thing but go a step further and say you have to eat more fat but not any ole kind of fat, good fat including omega 3. They say restricting carb is not the full picture. It's part of it but the full picture is carb restriction, good fats which will help you lay off the carbs, and exercise. Good stuff. I dont want to do CAD becuz I can't get down with the reward meal but I like the background info.

09-04-2006, 08:05 AM	#9
Darrow Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 61 Gallery: Darrow	i've enjoyed reading your posts Shantony. I have the Eades tapes too and am going to get them out again to review. I shouldn't blame CAD for my eating demise the first time around, cause I'm the one who fully rewarded myself...but it is to me like telling an alcoholic they can binge for 1 hour a day and it will be peachy. I also understand from other's posts that Dr. Heller revised her thoughts on this. For me...keeping my carbs at no more than 40 is keeping me on the path. Also, eating every 3 hours has kept me satisfied and commited. Today is day 8 with no cheats and down 5 pounds.

09-04-2006, 10:21 AM	#10
Shantony Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 838 Gallery: Shantony Stats: 5' 2" -230/178/150 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: June 3, 2006	Great Darrow!!!! WTG!!!! I have a binge problem every now and again. Only time it flares up is when I feel deprived or my carbs are practically 0 for a while. Then something triggers and I snap and then it's....."Whoa Nelly! Ma get the kids!!!" At that point I'll eat anything sweet. I just ran out and bought the Protein Power paperback from Barnes N Noble. I need to read the original book. So I'm beginning protein power and skimming CAD just for background and not plan. Then I'll finish listening to book two. Well I went out and got caught in public hungry. I hate going to SAMs club hungry. Resisted all the samples and pulled into Wendys. Ordered a cheeseburger deluxe no ketchup and a diet coke. Threw the bread out and ate the flimsy insides. Got home and was still hungry. So I ate a piece of steak with Cream cheese on top. I've been craving cream cheese this week. It's putting me up in cals though. I'm trying to create the deficit. Any who I ate it. It was either that or chocolate. I also bought diet cocoa mix and unsweetened whipped cream to fight the Choco monster. I thought it was better than Lindt Excellence 85% b/c I'll scarf that whole thing down. Now Heather said that you could choose your own carbs to eat with your meals on PP. I'll add a tasty tidbit. I'm coming to realize I'm a carb addict. I'm one of those lucky people who is catching the hard road. My body DOES NOT want to get thin. It want's to hold on to it's fat. But I say it's got to go so I'm fighting my body. I'm pulling off the earrings, taking off the shoes, smearing vaseline on my face and about to get down and dirty on my fat. Just as Darrow said like an alcoholic. But I believe it was Schwarzbein, Eades or Heller who said that for a person addicted to carbs our bodies will produce insulin with real sugar or sugar like substances.......we will have the same cravings with artificial sweetners because the insulin receptors will respond to glucose and glucose like substances.... Like Heroin addicts are given methadone to ease the withdrawal symptoms....we can't use Splenda or Aspartame and I would venture to say saccharin because we Perceive it as sugar in our bodies. This is why some people don't lose while using Splenda or other artificial sweetners. I'm a teacher and I learn globally (meaning I need to see the big picture and then I can pick out the smaller units) so by reading almost all the LC plans, now the pieces are falling together and I feel like my journey will be a better one because of it. To Review. Today we have learned that the reasons why some people stall on the LC way of life are : 1. Too much fat floating around in the bloodstream and is readily available for the body to use. Create a slight deficit and your body will have to dip into the fat stores to make glucose. 2. In carb sensitive people, their bodies will create an insulin response to sugar/glucose and sugar-like substances. It doesn't matter that it's not real sugar but it's how the body perceives it. For example, artificial estrogen from the "estrogen-like" plants. Soy is one such plant.

09-04-2006, 11:47 AM	#11
peachy Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: WindyCity Posts: 475 Blog Entries: 1 Gallery: peachy Stats: 176.5/173.5/125 Start Date: Too Long Ago	Hi - I am a protein power girl, too. I just went on fitday because my weight seems to be going down so s-l-o-w-l-y. I could really see where I was adding too many calories. Back to basics for me!

09-04-2006, 12:32 PM	#12
Shantony Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 838 Gallery: Shantony Stats: 5' 2" -230/178/150 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: June 3, 2006	Peachy!!! Trying to make this a strong, knowledgeable thread. Please visit often and share more.

09-04-2006, 08:48 PM	#14
Shantony Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 838 Gallery: Shantony Stats: 5' 2" -230/178/150 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: June 3, 2006	Anytime Heather. We need you to add or clear things up when you get a chance. I was just reading in the Carbohydrate Addict's Lifespan Program book that: "If you are carbohydrate addicted and you have not been able to maintain success on other programs, your lack of success was not your fault! Chances are that the plan you attempted to follow was not designed to correct the cause of your weight gain and cravings. In order for a program to help you lose weight and keep it off, it must correct the very cause of, and thus reduce, your cravings, weight, and many health-related risks. Feelings of deprivation, sacrifice, even the desire to cheat, are signs that a weight-loss plan has not corrected the cause of your eating or weight problems." That little tidbit just moved me further along in my process to wholeness. I gotta go put that in my journal for future reference. Many others had condemned me for switching plans. Telling me and others to stop jumping ship. I switched becuz it wasn't working for me. There's a difference between losing weight and having it stay off and losing weight only to regain it next month.

09-06-2006, 01:57 PM	#16
Shantony Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 838 Gallery: Shantony Stats: 5' 2" -230/178/150 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: June 3, 2006	Well I'm on board with PP. I"ll give it a month and see I see any results. I feel better. Not deprived at all. Heather, I read that you shouldn't eat your carbs with breakfast if you are sensitive becuz sometimes you could get an insulin spike. So I've been starting carbs at lunch or for midmorning snack. Did you see that?

09-06-2006, 04:31 PM	#18
peachy Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: WindyCity Posts: 475 Blog Entries: 1 Gallery: peachy Stats: 176.5/173.5/125 Start Date: Too Long Ago	Hi girls -- I lost a pound! Yeah! Only 20 more pounds to goal! I try to balance my carbs all day. There is no way I could have fruit in the morning because it would make me crave all day!

09-06-2006, 04:43 PM	#19
greeniss Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Nevada Posts: 458 Gallery: greeniss Stats: size 12-14/10(skirt) 12(pants)/8 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: 6/20/06	Alright, I just bought a used PP book on ebay for $3. Can't lose on that deal!

09-06-2006, 06:07 PM	#20
Shantony Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 838 Gallery: Shantony Stats: 5' 2" -230/178/150 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: June 3, 2006	LUCKY!!!! (in my best Napoleon Dynamite voice)

09-06-2006, 06:08 PM	#21
Shantony Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 838 Gallery: Shantony Stats: 5' 2" -230/178/150 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: June 3, 2006	WTG on your pound Peachy!!! Okay so what have you been doing. Share, share, share!!!!

09-06-2006, 09:33 PM	#22
Shantony Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 838 Gallery: Shantony Stats: 5' 2" -230/178/150 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: June 3, 2006	DH and I have decided to not do wheat or flour. We ate two very small whole wheat wraps with ham & turkey and we felt sluggish, and woozy. Like we needed a nap right away.

09-07-2006, 10:44 AM	#25
Luvmykidz MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Right here Posts: 2,418 Gallery: Luvmykidz Stats: 165/baby due May'08/140 5'4" WOE: Low Carb hybrid Start Date: June 2006 after 4th baby	Shay, it is possible you are sensitive to either gluten or soy. LC baked goods often have either or both. Wheat products always have gluten, even the regular kind. Also, some lunch meats will have bacteria in them--You may have had a touch of food poisoning......especially if you felt nauseous. Processed meats can have msg, as well, which makes me feel sleepy and kind of sick. I always feel that way after having Chinese food that I forgot to say "no MSG" when ordering.

09-07-2006, 03:53 PM	#26
peachy Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: WindyCity Posts: 475 Blog Entries: 1 Gallery: peachy Stats: 176.5/173.5/125 Start Date: Too Long Ago	Hi girls -- another healthy sunny beautiful day. I lost another half a pound today. I've been losing so slowly that it is a big suprise. B - Protein Shake L - Yogurt Flax Granola Roast Beef Bleu Cheese dressing D will be Chicken breast Asparagus I also had coffee with half and half and Caramel DeVinci's. Yummy. What is everyone eating?

09-07-2006, 04:36 PM	#27
Shantony Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 838 Gallery: Shantony Stats: 5' 2" -230/178/150 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: June 3, 2006	Evening Lovely Protein Power Gals! Colonix Fiber Paranil B - 2 eggs, Scrambled, 1 slice American Cheese MS - 3 Vlassic No Sugar Added Bread & Butter Pickle Spears, 1 cup Pork Rinds (Lime & Chile Flavor) L - Kraft South Beach Diet Southwestern Chicken Wrap Kit (2 WW tortillas, tiny SF Jello, 1/4 c. grated Cheddar, tiny salsa, chicken breast chunks) AS - 2 oz Roast Beef, 1 oz cheddar D - 4 slices bacon, 3 soft boiled eggs, 2 sl LC WW toast, 1 pat parkay, 1/4 c. avocado ES - SF Jello w/ SF whipped cream I went a tad over 30 today. Will have to watch that bread or cheese. The bread is 5 net carbs per slice. It's called Nature's Own Wheat formulated for Low Carb Plans bread. Totals: 1840 cals 122g fat (59%) 58g carbs (8%) 21g fiber 136g protein (31%)

09-08-2006, 03:02 PM	#28
Luvmykidz MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Right here Posts: 2,418 Gallery: Luvmykidz Stats: 165/baby due May'08/140 5'4" WOE: Low Carb hybrid Start Date: June 2006 after 4th baby	Hi! I thought I would share what I ate for lunch today, in case anyone is looking for ideas on veggie dishes. Stir Fried Cabbage 3c bagged coleslaw (shredded red and green cabbage plus carrots) 1 tsp coconut oil (or whatever you use) 1/4 to 1/2 packet low carb sweetener 1/16 teaspoon each of garlic powder and ginger powder pinch of black pepper and salt to taste Stir fry the cabbage mix in the oil over med-high heat for about 5 minutes (until cabbage starts to get soft but is still crisp). Add seasonings, taste and adjust if needed. I figured the recipe is 1 serving. 6g net carbs 4g fiber 4.5g fat It is really versatile. You can add a tablespoon of chopped green onion while stir frying. Or a splash of soy sauce. And you can also add slices of precooked, leftover chicken, beef, pork or shrimp. I think it tastes very similar to egg roll filling.

09-08-2006, 09:30 PM	#29
Shantony Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 838 Gallery: Shantony Stats: 5' 2" -230/178/150 WOE: Low Carb Start Date: June 3, 2006	Today I worked all day and evening. I didnt eat all that healthy today. B - Missed it L - Domino's Pizza's 6 hot wings with drizzle of hot wing sauce, not breaded, 1 small thin slice of pepperoni pizza, 10 oz Pepsi Jazz D - Applebee's Grilled Chipotle Chicken Tostada Salad w/ honey-lime vinegarette with half of corn tortilla crumbled on top ES - Jello Snack w/ whipped cream That's all I ate today. I didn't plan well and didn't pack a lunch.

09-09-2006, 07:19 AM	#30
Darrow Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 61 Gallery: Darrow	Hi Shantony, I hope you have a better day today...full of rest, not work! Today you will take care of yourself first. You're bright, powerful and equipped with the knowledge to nurture your body and spirit. Make everything else wait that might demand your immediate attention, because you are going to take care of yourself first...then the rest will fall into place. Hi LuvmyKids, The recipe for the cabbage sounds good...think I'll make it tomorrow with some chicken thrown in. Thanks for sharing.