Interesting weblog from the author of Protein Power

lalabella · 07-20-2005, 02:33 PM

http://blog.proteinpower.com/drmike/

Michael Eades, M.D.
I hope it is OK to share this link with you all...

I have been reading this weblog for a few weeks now and I really enjoy reading about nutrition and hearing his encouraging words about living low carb. His post today talks about how important it is to have fats with your vegetables, to encourage proper absorption of nutrients!

here's a sample:

Here's a little secret that the makers of no-fat products and the promoters of low-fat diets are not likely to tell you: many of the most potent cancer-fighting nutrients in plants can't be absorbed well without some fat accompanying them. Specifically, carotenoids found in colorful fruits and vegetables, and lycopene, found in tomatoes, require fat for their absorption. If you make a salad loaded with various greens, slices of cucumber and tomato, and diced bits of carrots and other colorful vegetables, then top it with one of the zillions of no-fat dressings available to the low-fat conscious, you will be missing out not only on taste but on many of the nutrients in the salad that you simply won't be able to absorb without the fat. Make sure that when you eat a salad, you dress it with virgin or extra-virgin olive oil, canola oil, or nut oil, all of which contain a whole host of valuable nutrients and antioxidants. If you eat steamed vegetables, drizzle them with olive oil or melted butter, so that the fat-soluble nutrients don't go unabsorbed.

Interesting stuff. His site is full of great information.

phibi · 07-20-2005, 02:36 PM

THANK YOU for that link.

Lisa Marie · 07-20-2005, 02:45 PM

Yes, thanks for the link! I have it bookmarked for future reference!

KajunDC · 07-20-2005, 03:23 PM

I don't know if I agree with the doc's statement. Food comes "pre-packaged" in nature just like we need it. We don't need to be adding fats to veggies to get the good stuff out of veggies.

We do need fats, no doubt about it, but I have a hard time believing they are required to properly absorb and utilize veggies. It is not logical (to quote my Vulcan friend)

Oh, and while on that subject, R.I.P. Scotty (James Doohan)

lalabella · 07-20-2005, 03:41 PM

Dr. Eades brings this up in his weblog in relation to two recent studies that show the absorption of nutrients is enhanced by the inclusion of fats with veggies. Specifically that lycopene is best received when tomatoes are cooked in oil, that caroteniods are absorbed best with fats present and that avocado enhances the absorbtion of carotenoids when added to salads.

Tater Head · 07-20-2005, 05:32 PM

Dr. Oz also said the same thing when he was on Oprah, he's one of the doctors that operated on Clinton. Also, you should eat something with fat when you take vitamins like E and fish oil .

Kimmer · 07-20-2005, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KajunDC

R.I.P. Scotty (James Doohan)

Ditto.

Haunch · 07-20-2005, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KajunDC

I don't know if I agree with the doc's statement. Food comes "pre-packaged" in nature just like we need it. We don't need to be adding fats to veggies to get the good stuff out of veggies.

We do need fats, no doubt about it, but I have a hard time believing they are required to properly absorb and utilize veggies. It is not logical (to quote my Vulcan friend)

Oh, and while on that subject, R.I.P. Scotty (James Doohan)

I disagree, somewhat. Nature is not built around our needs (much as we may feel otherwise, lol) — we have adapted to nature. It is entirely possible that we evolved the capability to better utilize these nutrients in the presence of the other things we would have hunted/gathered.

Ditto on the Scotty thing.

Charski · 07-20-2005, 08:29 PM

I'm glad in reading on that link that he recants the advice on using canola oil - I was about to disagree with him for a change! LOL!

I quote:
"In rereading that paragraph, I wouldn't change a thing except that I would remove canola oil from the list of acceptable oils. Since writing the above in 1999 I've learned that canola oil, also called rapeseed oil, virtually always contains a fair percentage of trans fats, which are created during the deodorization process."

Have you watched the low-carb cooking show he and his wife do? I get a kick out of it! Low Carb Cookworx I think it's called.

Char

lalabella · 07-20-2005, 08:54 PM

I'd love to see that show, sounds great. I really respect the Eades, they seem to really have a cautious and well researched view of LC.

TaiwanTeacher · 07-20-2005, 09:39 PM

[quote=KajunDC]I don't know if I agree with the doc's statement. Food comes "pre-packaged" in nature just like we need it. We don't need to be adding fats to veggies to get the good stuff out of veggies.

We do need fats, no doubt about it, but I have a hard time believing they are required to properly absorb and utilize veggies. It is not logical (to quote my Vulcan friend)

QUOTE]

I also disagree somewhat for the following reason. Cows can get a lot of nutritents from just eating grass, but it's because they have multiple stomachs and myriad microorganisms to help. Rabbits can get everything they need from only vegetables because their digestive systems are built to do it. If humans only eat grass it won't benefit us they way it does cows because we are not digestively built for it, we need to get our nutriets from grassy foods in other ways, like eating oil with it, or fermenting it to predigest it and release the nutrients. A certain type of food may be perfectly pre-packaged for one type of animal and not another. Herbivores certainly don't need to eat fat with their vegetables and carnivores don't need to eat vegetables with their fat. Humans are somewhere in the middle.

Meyer · 07-20-2005, 09:50 PM

I don't do carrots or tomatoes in my salad. I rarely use salad dressing, but I add some fat-containing cheeses most of the time.

Hoops · 07-21-2005, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tater Head

Dr. Oz also said the same thing when he was on Oprah, he's one of the doctors that operated on Clinton. Also, you should eat something with fat when you take vitamins like E and fish oil .

While I was in Santa Fe a week ago (everything is about health there), and a bunch of ladies got together who were in their 30's-70's and one discussion was Vitamin E. Several had just recently been told by their doctor to throw out your Vitamin E, that is doesn't do any good. I guess this is the circle of the medical profession who continually try to get us to consume drugs, and then realize they don't do us any good!

Now this fat thing sounds very interesting, and I am going to take some time to read up on it. Thanks for the link!

Hoops · 07-21-2005, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaiwanTeacher

I also disagree somewhat for the following reason. Cows can get a lot of nutritents from just eating grass, but it's because they have multiple stomachs and myriad microorganisms to help. Rabbits can get everything they need from only vegetables because their digestive systems are built to do it. If humans only eat grass it won't benefit us they way it does cows because we are not digestively built for it, we need to get our nutriets from grassy foods in other ways, like eating oil with it, or fermenting it to predigest it and release the nutrients. A certain type of food may be perfectly pre-packaged for one type of animal and not another. Herbivores certainly don't need to eat fat with their vegetables and carnivores don't need to eat vegetables with their fat. Humans are somewhere in the middle.

Great point. I read a couple very interesting books that addressed the same point but in a different way while I was pregnant 10 years back. One book is titled, "Don't Drink Your Milk," which addressed how the human body has a very difficult job digesting cow milk and absorbs very little nutritional value from it. The other book is titled, "Fit for Life," which addressed proper food combining because of the digestive juices and fermentation. Very interesting stuff.

Tater Head · 07-21-2005, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoops

While I was in Santa Fe a week ago (everything is about health there), and a bunch of ladies got together who were in their 30's-70's and one discussion was Vitamin E. Several had just recently been told by their doctor to throw out your Vitamin E, that is doesn't do any good. !

I agree, Vitamin E is bad, I've heard that too, I was just using it as one example of insoluble vitamins that some people take is all. You absorb any vitamin better with food too.

BTW. I love the Eades and all their books.

inatic · 07-21-2005, 05:11 PM

I just read a medical study that said, the new claims of vit e are unfounded. SHeesh i forgot where i read it.

07-20-2005, 02:33 PM	#1
lalabella MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,651 Gallery: lalabella Stats: 269/249/160-ish 5'9" Start Date: restart Oct 08	Interesting weblog from the author of Protein Power http://blog.proteinpower.com/drmike/ Michael Eades, M.D. I hope it is OK to share this link with you all... I have been reading this weblog for a few weeks now and I really enjoy reading about nutrition and hearing his encouraging words about living low carb. His post today talks about how important it is to have fats with your vegetables, to encourage proper absorption of nutrients! here's a sample: Here's a little secret that the makers of no-fat products and the promoters of low-fat diets are not likely to tell you: many of the most potent cancer-fighting nutrients in plants can't be absorbed well without some fat accompanying them. Specifically, carotenoids found in colorful fruits and vegetables, and lycopene, found in tomatoes, require fat for their absorption. If you make a salad loaded with various greens, slices of cucumber and tomato, and diced bits of carrots and other colorful vegetables, then top it with one of the zillions of no-fat dressings available to the low-fat conscious, you will be missing out not only on taste but on many of the nutrients in the salad that you simply won't be able to absorb without the fat. Make sure that when you eat a salad, you dress it with virgin or extra-virgin olive oil, canola oil, or nut oil, all of which contain a whole host of valuable nutrients and antioxidants. If you eat steamed vegetables, drizzle them with olive oil or melted butter, so that the fat-soluble nutrients don't go unabsorbed. Interesting stuff. His site is full of great information. __________________ bella 270 268 266 264 262 260 258 256 254 252 250 248 247 246 244 242 240 238 236 234 232 230 228 226 224 222 220 218 216 214 212 210 208 206 204 202 200 198 196 194 192 190 188 186 184 182 180 178 176 174 172 170 "When I lay my head on the pillow at night, I can say 'I was a decent person today'. That's when I feel beautiful." -- Drew Barrymore

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Tater Head Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Cave Creek Az. Posts: 3,713 Gallery: Tater Head Stats: 210/186/135 WOE: Protein Power Start Date: January 5th 2005	Dr. Oz also said the same thing when he was on Oprah, he's one of the doctors that operated on Clinton. Also, you should eat something with fat when you take vitamins like E and fish oil . Last edited by Tater Head : 07-20-2005 at 05:34 PM.

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07-20-2005, 02:36 PM	#2
phibi MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Beautiful Scottsdale Posts: 1,350 Gallery: phibi Stats: 5'6" - 142/117/120	THANK YOU for that link.

07-20-2005, 02:45 PM	#3
Lisa Marie Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 8,232 Gallery: Lisa Marie Start Date: Restart 6/26/07	Yes, thanks for the link! I have it bookmarked for future reference!

07-20-2005, 03:23 PM	#4
KajunDC Natural Healthcare Chiropractor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mandeville, LA (Just North of New Orleans) Posts: 2,411 Gallery: KajunDC Stats: Lost 115lbs in 7 months Body Fat-40+%/11%/9% WOE: Organic, Fresh and Non-Processed Start Date: Low Carb-Mar04, BFFM-Jul05	I don't know if I agree with the doc's statement. Food comes "pre-packaged" in nature just like we need it. We don't need to be adding fats to veggies to get the good stuff out of veggies. We do need fats, no doubt about it, but I have a hard time believing they are required to properly absorb and utilize veggies. It is not logical (to quote my Vulcan friend) Oh, and while on that subject, R.I.P. Scotty (James Doohan)

07-20-2005, 03:41 PM	#5
lalabella MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,651 Gallery: lalabella Stats: 269/249/160-ish 5'9" Start Date: restart Oct 08	Dr. Eades brings this up in his weblog in relation to two recent studies that show the absorption of nutrients is enhanced by the inclusion of fats with veggies. Specifically that lycopene is best received when tomatoes are cooked in oil, that caroteniods are absorbed best with fats present and that avocado enhances the absorbtion of carotenoids when added to salads.

07-20-2005, 08:54 PM	#10
lalabella MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,651 Gallery: lalabella Stats: 269/249/160-ish 5'9" Start Date: restart Oct 08	I'd love to see that show, sounds great. I really respect the Eades, they seem to really have a cautious and well researched view of LC.

07-20-2005, 09:39 PM	#11
TaiwanTeacher Senior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Taiwan Posts: 380 Gallery: TaiwanTeacher WOE: The Dr. Weston A. Price Diet, NO processed food!	[quote=KajunDC]I don't know if I agree with the doc's statement. Food comes "pre-packaged" in nature just like we need it. We don't need to be adding fats to veggies to get the good stuff out of veggies. We do need fats, no doubt about it, but I have a hard time believing they are required to properly absorb and utilize veggies. It is not logical (to quote my Vulcan friend) QUOTE] I also disagree somewhat for the following reason. Cows can get a lot of nutritents from just eating grass, but it's because they have multiple stomachs and myriad microorganisms to help. Rabbits can get everything they need from only vegetables because their digestive systems are built to do it. If humans only eat grass it won't benefit us they way it does cows because we are not digestively built for it, we need to get our nutriets from grassy foods in other ways, like eating oil with it, or fermenting it to predigest it and release the nutrients. A certain type of food may be perfectly pre-packaged for one type of animal and not another. Herbivores certainly don't need to eat fat with their vegetables and carnivores don't need to eat vegetables with their fat. Humans are somewhere in the middle.

07-20-2005, 09:50 PM	#12
Meyer MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Casper, WY Posts: 2,404 Gallery: Meyer Stats: goal met 6/25/05 WOE: Moderate Carbs	I don't do carrots or tomatoes in my salad. I rarely use salad dressing, but I add some fat-containing cheeses most of the time.

07-21-2005, 05:11 PM	#16
inatic Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Alpharetta,Ga. Posts: 12,582 Gallery: inatic Stats: 182/126.2 5'4 46!yo 16/4 5 kidlets later! WOE: Coach Supervised Start Date: LC since 2/02 B'building since 10/15/02	I just read a medical study that said, the new claims of vit e are unfounded. SHeesh i forgot where i read it.