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mimi2 04-02-2003 06:47 AM

This is it from the Atkins Center/I always use a fake name
 
Subj: RE:{Atkins#254-055}Slow Weight Loss and Plateaus: Supplements
Date: 3/30/2003 6:01:15 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: support@atkinssupport.com
To: Sugarcookieladie@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)




Thank you for your inquiry.

Firstly, do your best to be patient with your weight loss. You have nothing to be concerned about. While some lose weight consistently on Atkins, others lose in stages. You are in ketosis so you are burning stored fat for fuel.

You could be eating too much fat. While fat is necessary while following Atkins, eating too much fat can delay weight loss. Your body burns the fat you eat first, then the stored fat. If you're eating too much fat, you will not give your metabolism a change to burn the stored fat in the body.

Try reducing your fat intake slightly and see if that helps.

You could be eating too much. Even protein will turn to glucose if consumed in large amounts. We recommend no more that 6-8 oz of protein per meal.

Are you exercising? Exercise will not only help with fat burning, but the more you exercise, the more carbohydrates the body can tolerate. If you are not exercising, start as soon as you can.

If you measured your chest, waist, hips, upper arms and thighs with a tape measure before beginning to do Atkins, you should see a loss of inches, which sometimes occurs when weight loss is only marginal. Also, your weight can fluctuate from day to day, even from hour to hour, depending upon fluid balance, hormonal cycles and the effects of medications, to name a few things. And vigorous exercise can actually cause some weight gain because it increases muscle mass, which is denser than the fat it displaces. Even if these various factors cause you to lose pounds more slowly than you want, your tape measure will reveal that you are slimming down all over. But, as with the scale, don't become obsessed with the tape measure. You'll know the inches are disappearing because of the way your clothes fit.

To be sure you are following Atkins correctly, here is a list of common mistakes to avoid:

1. NO CAFFEINE- Excessive Caffeine can cause an insulin response leaving you craving sweets, and throwing you out of ketosis.

2. NO ASPARTAME-Aspartame may impact blood sugar levels which will cause an impasse in your weight loss. Watch for items such as diet soda and sugar free Jell-O.

3. CHEESE-4 oz per day maximum.

4. VEGETABLES-Remember, the 20 grams of carbohydrates that you consume per day should mostly come from vegetables. You can have 3-4 cups of salad or 2 cups salad, 1 cup cooked vegetables per day using only the vegetables on the acceptable food list. This is very important. Eliminating the vegetables may shut down your metabolism and your weight loss will stall.

The following list of common mistakes to avoid during Induction will be helpful:

1. Do not skip meals or go more than six waking hours without eating. If you are not hungry, eat four or five smaller meals (or healthy snacks) instead of three larger ones.

2. Do not omit natural fats. Butter, mayonnaise, olive oil, safflower, sunflower and other vegetable oils, and the fat in meat and fish will actually help you lose weight.

3. Do not eat more than 20 grams a day of carbohydrate, at least most of which must come in the form of salad greens and other acceptable vegetables.

4. Eat absolutely no fruit, bread, grains, starchy vegetables or dairy products other than cheese, cream or butter. Do not eat nuts in the first two weeks. Foods that combine protein and carbohydrates, such as chickpeas, kidney beans, and other legumes, are not permitted at this time.

5. Eat nothing that is not on the acceptable food list. And that means absolutely nothing! Your "just this one taste won’t hurt" rationalization is the kiss of failure during this phase of Atkins.

6. Adjust the quantity you eat to suit your appetite, especially as it decreases. When hungry, eat the amount that makes you feel satisfied but not stuffed. When not hungry, eat a small controlled carbohydrate snack to accompany your nutritional supplements.

7. Don’t assume any food is low in carbohydrate; instead read labels to check the carb count (it’s on every package) or use the carbohydrate gram counter in this book.

8. Watch out for hidden carbs in gravies, sauces and dressings.

9. Avoid foods or drinks sweetened with aspartame. Instead, use sucralose, saccharin or the herb stevia. Be sure to count each packet of any of these as one gram of carbs.
10. Avoid coffee, tea and soft drinks that contain caffeine. Excessive caffeine has been shown to cause low blood sugar, which can make you crave sugar.

11. Drink at least eight 8-ounce glasses of water each day to hydrate your body, avoid constipation, and flush out the by-products of burning fat.

There are a number of dos and don'ts you must adhere to for successful weight loss.

You must:

Drink at least eight 8-ounce glasses of pure water daily. This can be filtered, mineral or spring water (not seltzer). You may also have unlimited amounts of herbal tea (without sugar), but these do not count toward your total of eight glasses.

Drink only decaffeinated coffee and tea and use only acceptable sweeteners (see below).
Treat aspartame (NutraSweet® or Equal®) with caution. Avoid whenever possible. This includes products sweetened with these ingredients, such as diet sodas and diet Jell-O. Instead use sucralose, (Splenda®) or saccharin (Sweet'n Low™).

Check labels on other products that purport to be low- or controlled carb.

When eating out, be careful you're not consuming "hidden" carbohydrates in sauces or breaded products. Tell your waiter that you would like your food prepared free of sugar, flour and cornstarch.

At a minimum, take a good daily multivitamin with minerals, including potassium, magnesium and calcium, but without iron.

Unless you are physically unable to do so, exercise every day, even if it's just a walk around the block. This is an important part of the program in all phases and will certainly increase the rate at which you lose weight. That's because exercise not only causes you to burn calories, it also accelerates your metabolism.

You can:

Have a snack of a permissible food an hour or two after a meal if you wish.

You must not:

Overeat. You may have heard that you can eat as much as you desire of the acceptable foods. No so. Stuff yourself with steaks and cheeseburgers, and some of that protein will convert to glucose in your body. Instead, simply eat the amount that allows you to feel satisfied.

Drink alcohol in any form.

Use more than three packets of sucralose (Splenda) daily. (More and more products are being made with Splenda so if you use any, don't forget to include those grams in your tally.)

Cheat. It takes two to three days for the body to switch from burning carbohydrates (in the form of glucose) to fat burning. One cheat and you're back to a glucose-burning metabolism, and you can lose the effects of two or three days of fat burning.

You must not eat any of the following:

Sugar (in any form, including corn syrup, honey and maple syrup)

Milk or yogurt (cream is allowed in limited amounts)

Fruit and fruit juice

Flour products (breads, pasta, crackers, etc.)

Grains or cereals

Beans and legumes

Starchy or high-sugar vegetables (potatoes, yams, corn, peas, parsnips, beets, carrots)
Sweet condiments (such as most ketchups, barbeque sauce and balsamic vinegar)
French dressing, Thousand Island dressing (check labels for carb count)

Cottage cheese, farmer's cheese and other fresh cheeses

Nuts and seeds

Here is a detailed list from Dr. Atkins regarding slow weight loss and plateaus:

First, recognize that there may not be a problem at all. Different people will respond to Atkins differently; some consistently lose weight while others do so in stages. Don’t watch the scale and become overly concerned with short-term results. Also, make sure your expectations of weight loss are realistic. Atkins is designed to lead you to your natural ideal weight. For many people, that may still be more than they wish to weigh. We strongly recommend that you manage your expectations in a real and healthy way.

Second, remember that success on Atkins should always be measured by more than just the scale. Consider the following questions and think about how they apply to your experience on Atkins:

Are you experiencing more energy and vitality throughout the day?

Are your clothes fitting you better?

Are you experiencing less between meal cravings and hunger?

Have your blood tests improved?

Are you still losing weight, but just at a much slower pace?

Have you lost inches in your body measurements?

Continue to stick with it, modifying it as you go along to make it work for you, and you will continue to see suitable health enhancing results.

Given all of the above, there are a number of key factors that may inhibit a person’s ability to have success on a controlled carb program like Atkins. Listed below are the difficulties people experience most frequently:

Consuming Too Many Carbohydrates

It’s amazing how frequently this is the source of most people’s problems. Some people can get away with higher carb consumption and still experience success on Atkins, but many (especially those who are overweight to begin with), need to be more vigilant in keeping carbs controlled.

Check to make sure you are completely aware of all the sources of carbohydrates you may be eating. For example, lemon juice, excess vegetables, and low fat substitute products can contain those few carbs that could disrupt your success. Keep a complete food diary for a few days to see exactly what you are consuming. You may be surprised, Also, even if you think you’ve caught every carbohydrate, check the ingredients on any processed food you are eating (if a serving size contains less than 1 gram of carbs, it can be listed as 0 carbs. If you are consuming a lot of this product, the hidden carbs can add up fast.)

If you’ve done a full investigation and believe you’ve caught all the carbs, try a week at a lower carb level (e.g. If you’re on an Ongoing Weight Loss Level, go back to Induction) to see if that might restart your success.

Overeating

While it is true that calorie counting is not necessary on Atkins, this is not a license to gorge yourself at every meal. The Atkins Nutritional Approach is most effective when you eat until you are satisfied, not until you can’t eat another bite or you’ll explode. Also, try eating slower to allow your body to signal when it is full before you overeat. Think about this over the next week and see if it helps you to start/restart your weight loss.

Undereating

Just as overeating can cause your body to resist weight loss, so can undereating. If you’re hungry, eat; if you’re starving, you should have eaten 30 minutes ago.

Trying To Do A "Low-Fat" Version of the Atkins Nutritional Approach

Some people with very fast metabolisms can get away with this and experience success on Atkins. However, for most, it will inhibit your weight loss and keep you hungrier throughout the day and thus more susceptible to sugar/carb cravings.

Nutritional Deficiencies Caused By Previous Diets

Many people who have been on a diet high in sugar and other refined carbohydrates, as well as low in fat (which is almost everybody) prior to beginning Atkins, will have nutritional deficiencies that may not be fully addressed by the Atkins Nutritional Approach. Readers of Dr. Atkins’ books know that he is a firm believer in nutritional supplementation. His key recommendations for everyone include a broad-based multi-vitamin program (preferably not a "one-a-day", but one consumed through the day for optimal absorption) and an essential fatty acid formula (which can boost your metabolism and enhance fat burning). For additional supplementation, refer to Dr. Atkins’ books including his latest Vita-Nutrients Solution to develop a program that meets your specific needs.

Medications

Virtually all medications will inhibit weight loss to some degree, with prescription medications being the most problematic. For more information on this subject, please review the questions concerning medications.

Yeast Overgrowth/Candida Condition

Re-read the yeast chapter in New Diet Revolution, and go on a yeast/fermentation-free version of Atkins (e.g. no cheese, vinegar, mushrooms, etc.) for two weeks to see if that precipitates weight loss.

Food Intolerances

Re-read the chapter on food intolerances in New Diet Revolution.

Lack of Exercise

While Atkins doesn’t require you to kill yourself on the treadmill or in an aerobic class everyday to see results, the importance of regular exercise can’t be overlooked. Make sure you are engaged in some form of exercise at least three times a week, or as directed by your doctor. If you can increase that to four or five times a week, all the better. You will definitely see the results on Atkins if you increase your exercise routine.

Lack of Proper Water Consumption

If you’re not drinking enough water, your body is operating inefficiently. An inefficient body will not respond as well to weight loss efforts. Basically, by the time you feel thirsty, you are already dehydrated. Do yourself and your body a favor and drink at least 8 glasses of water a day (preferably filtered), and more if possible. You may go to the bathroom more, but your body will love you for it. Note: This means water, not decaf coffee, tea, diet soda or anything else that may include water but is not water.

Low body Temperature

This would indicate a possible sluggish thyroid. Refer to New Diet Revolution for how this can impact weight loss and how you can test for this condition in your own home.

Consumption of Artificial Sweeteners

For many people, products such as aspartame and saccharin are not a problem, especially when consumed at low to moderate levels (remember that all sweetener packets contain a gram of carbs). However, some people can experience a weight loss impasse from these products. For many Atkins followers, these products have been a "necessary evil", since they are better than giving into sugar cravings. Our advice: If you are having trouble losing weight on Atkins, refrain from these artificial sweeteners for a week to see if it helps.

Consider trying Stevia, a natural product that people use as a sweetener. Sucralose, recently approved by the FDA and used safely for years in countries throughout the world (many of which ban the use of aspartame), may solve the problem for all Atkins followers. We do not believe it will cause weight loss impasses for any Atkins followers, and are now using it as the sweetener in all Advantage Bars, cheesecakes and other Atkins food products.

If you have reviewed all of the above and are still having problems, consider coming to The Atkins Center for Complementary Medicine as a patient or schedule a Telephone Nutritional Consultation (TNC), For information please call 1-888-ATKINS-8 and ask for the New Patients Department.

We hope this information will be helpful to you. If you still need further assistance, please feel free to e-mail us again, or contact our Customer Support Department by phone at 1-800-6-ATKINS, Monday - Thursday 8 am to 7pm EST and Friday 8am to 6 pm EST. If you are calling from outside the U.S. and Canada, please reach us at 631.738.7370.


Customer Support
Atkins Nutritionals, Inc.
1-800-2-ATKINS
The instructions and advice presented in this email are in no way intended as medical advice or as a substitute for medical counseling. The information should be used in conjunction with the guidance and care of your physician. Consult your physician before beginning this program as you would any weight-loss or weight-maintenance program. Your physician should be aware of all medical conditions that you may have, as well as any medication and supplements you are taking. Those of you on diuretics or diabetes medication should proceed only under a doctor's supervision. As with any plan, the weight-loss phases of this nutritional plan should not be used by patients on dialysis or by pregnant or nursing women.

Visit Atkins <http://www.atkinscenter.com> Online to learn more about the Atkins Nutritional Approach, find delicious controlled carb recipes, participate in live chats, read testimonials about success with Atkins, and browse our Online Store!





-----Original Message-----
From: Sugarcookieladie@aol.com (Sugarcookieladie@aol.com)
Date: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:53 AM
To: support@atkinssupport.com (support@atkinssupport.com)
Subject: Slow Weight Loss and Plateaus: Supplements



Hello,
I just completed my 4th week of the induction phase. This in not my first attempt at the Atkins plan. I have lost about and inch all over and only 9 pounds. I am excersing.
I just today started taking the Atkins Accel supplement to help get the ball rolling. I am also taking the basic #3, the essential oils, and the dieters advantage.

My question is this: Do I still continue with the dieters advantage, and do I take that with the accel? Both are said to be taken on an empty stomach 1 hour before a meal. I couldnt find any info on taking both of them together.

Thank you
Sarah

Dottie 04-02-2003 06:56 AM

Thanks for posting this:)

mimi2 04-02-2003 07:01 AM

absolutly!

But, I dont think my question was answered LOL

Taking the supplements they cannot hurt. But great advice on the diet

Michelle :)

Phena_Gen 04-02-2003 07:40 AM

mimi lol yep they didn't answer your specific question but it was a very detailed do and don't list many of which I'm constantly seeing people say "oh you can do that, I have no problem" blah blah blah and there it is in black and white that you shouldn't. Maybe some will read and learn :D

04-02-2003 08:53 AM

LOL - while reading, I was thinking, "wow, this is great information!!" Then I saw the end and thought, "that can't be her question!!??"

I'm so glad you posted this though, cause I, just a few days ago, was switching to sugarbusters, but now I'm thinking ..... maybe I wasn't as "cheat free" as I thought I was when I didn't think Atkins was working. HMMMMM

Anyway... she must have thought 9 lbs in 4 weeks was not good enough too. :confused:

Ana K.S. 04-02-2003 11:37 AM

lol I noticed they didn't answer the question either although it was VERY informative :)

Matrigna 04-03-2003 07:34 AM

Thank you for posting this!
 
Hi! Relative newbie here. I am so glad you posted that. It reminded me of a lot of things I should be paying more attention to.

Wonder if they send this same standard response to each and every person no matter what the question?

mimi2 04-03-2003 12:58 PM

Hey,

When you submit a question to the center you do so under a subject. This one slow loss and plateaus. (spelling)

I think it is so long because it is a copy of all possibilities.
I am sure I could word the question differently and get a better response. I have sent questions before and got a straight forward answer.

Michelle :)

Matrigna 04-03-2003 02:03 PM

omg, they did it to me now too, lol!
 
Now does this answer have ANYTHING to do with the question I asked as far as anyone can tell?

Thank you for your inquiry.
For healthy children, Dr. Atkins recommends a good multivitamin/mineral plus omega-3's (flaxseed or fish oil). The most pleasant way to take omega-3's is in a capsule, although it also comes in liquid form. Please take note that the pediatric dose (for children under 12) is one quarter of the adult dose. So if the recommended dosage is three capsules per day, give only one. Of course, in the case of a pediatric formula, follow the instructions on the bottle. Specific health problems that could benefit from other supplements require individual assessment.

We hope this information will be helpful to you. If you still need further assistance, please feel free to e-mail us again, or contact our Customer Support Department by phone at 1-800-6-ATKINS, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. If you are calling from outside the U.S. and Canada, please reach us at 631.738.7370.

Sincerely,
Ken Cadigan
Atkins Information Agent
Atkins Nutritionals Inc.
1-800-6-ATKINS

The instructions and advice presented in this email are in no way intended as medical advice or as a substitute for medical counseling. The information should be used in conjunction with the guidance and care of your physician. Consult your physician before beginning this program as you would any weight-loss or weight-maintenance program. Your physician should be aware of all medical conditions that you may have, as well as any medication and supplements you are taking. Those of you on diuretics or diabetes medication should proceed only under a doctor's supervision. As with any plan, the weight-loss phases of this nutritional plan should not be used by patients on dialysis or by pregnant or nursing women.



-----Original Message-----
From: @yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:15 AM
To: support@atkinssupport.com (support@atkinssupport.com)
Subject: Consumer Other: Apple Cider Vinegar Tablets & Atkins....



Are apple cider vinegar tablets okay to take while following the Atkins Plan? Will they interfere with Ketosis in any way? Do you recommend this supplement? Thanks,

mimi2 04-04-2003 07:01 AM

umm

no.

Michelle :)


small price to pay for not calling and dealing with a "real" person.
LOLOL

baconlovr 04-07-2003 04:26 PM

It is obvious from these 'responses' from atkins that the website is set up with a search/response system. The 'computer' on the website searches the message for 'keywords' that match a predetermined 'response' and automatically sends it. This is not uncommon. But, if you can get a real person through their 800 that would be the best thing to do.

Eris Kaos 04-14-2003 04:08 AM

That reply could have been better.....
 
Not to be nit-picky, but that reply could have been better! A bit incoherant and disorganized, in MHO.

For instance, here's a mind boggler:

"Some people can get away with higher carb consumption and still experience success on Atkins, but many (especially those who are overweight to begin with ), need to be more vigilant in keeping carbs controlled."

Especially those who are overweight to begin with??? :D

Musings 04-19-2003 05:10 PM

The resonse to mimi2's email is almost word for word out of the book I have. It is obvious that a "real" person was not reading the email. Must be an auto responder which picked up on the subject line.
Its kind of disheartening that they don't clarify better. But thats what you all are here for..right?..lol:D

EditGal 04-22-2003 10:18 AM

Eris,
 
I so loved that phrase too -- who else would it be except those who start out as overweight? Surely not those who are trying to gain weight! I just want to dig in to that message and do some editing, but I don't suppose they'll invite me in..... ;)

dominique 04-29-2003 12:26 PM

this is funny! Mibi, can I share your response? This hits the nail on a head for a few discussions that i've been involved in?

Dom

2B Me 05-07-2003 09:47 AM

Thanks for sharing.

SunshineLTB 06-14-2003 11:13 PM

[COLOR=purple]Thanks!! It's always good to re-read what we already know!! :)
Back to the basics I go!!![/COLOR]

oow-woo 08-30-2003 04:57 PM

Interesting....I sent an email to the center about a year and a half ago about the fact that I had been on Atkins since 4/99 and had followed it to the letter, exercising etc.....and I got the identical response -- exactly as shown above.... it did not answer my specific questions either.

Carol

Dillia 09-01-2003 07:38 AM

The Atkins Accel supplement is not for induction

Bookie3333 09-04-2003 03:45 PM

That entire response was taken "word for word" from Dr.Atkin's New Diet Revolution Book!!!! They quoted Chapter 11 to you, not answering your specific question.

wintersky 09-06-2003 08:41 AM

Atkins Reply
 
Holy Schmoley, I'd never be able to follow all this! Give up (or limit) my coffee or tea with splenda and my diet sodas and sugar-free jello? :( But I have lost 63 pounds over the last eight months. From my experience the sugar alcohols in the bars that Atkins sells are more likely to stall me (and trigger cravings) than the diet sodas, etc.

wintersky
241/178/129
Since 12/28/02

SMP 12-11-2003 03:00 PM

Some of us are continuing with Atkins not just for weight loss. Not only was my weight into the danger zone, but my blood pressure, cholesterols, triglycerides, and homocysteine levels. The diet reduced all of those, some into the normal range. Now, there are still days when I feel lousy, but none like before, when I thought I was dying. I am still 65 pounds lighter, and now, after a very stressful summer, I am thinking of re-inducting to lose both the 10-15 pounds I have regained, but maybe to get lower than I was, down closer to my (overweight) teen years. If I can, that'll be lovely. But I am grateful already for still being here and alive.:D

robnfran5 12-16-2003 01:45 PM

Accel
 
Why is Accel not for Induction?:confused:

salty222 01-10-2004 08:46 PM

holidays
 
its hard gettin back on track

SlimmingSigma 02-01-2004 08:44 PM

yeah, i've found that some of my questions to the Atkins support site haven't really been fully answered. That kinda goes for most support centers I email! hmmm .. . .

daisyatthebeach 03-29-2004 03:29 AM

I'm glad I finally took the time to read this. It was a good refresher since I probably haven't read the book in a more than 2 years!

fireflies_for_me 04-22-2004 11:23 AM

Great info, even if it isn't necessarily specific to your question... Thanks for posting.:cool:

Carla

fitbefore30 01-04-2005 01:39 AM

Great info, even if it isn't necessarily specific to your question..., it has given me some great tips since i am just beggining my first week of induction, in fact i printed it out. Thanks for posting:up:

Electrogirl 04-17-2005 08:07 AM

Hi newbie here
 
Hi I'm still relatively new at this, but I'm sort of stalled, so reading this is important to me.

Where can I get advice on stalls?
thanks

electrogirl

Gweebles 06-03-2006 06:39 AM

I saw this and it reminds me of our files at my work for customer feedback emails. We call them "canned responses for customer questions" and they are vague like that. I always try to add my personal touch to email when I am answering customers.


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